Harvard Rejects Trump Admin’s Demands, Going to Court

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The Internal Revenue Service is making plans to rescind the tax-exempt status of Harvard University, according to two sources familiar with the matter, which would be an extraordinary step of retaliation as the Trump administration seeks to turn up pressure on the university that has defied its demands to change its hiring and other practices.

Not really that extraordinary. They were doing to have violated the constitutional rights of Asians by discriminating against them. Racial discrimination is how Bob Jones University lost it's tax exempt status.

You realize what Trump is doing is nothing to do with Asians …Trump is all about helping white males

That doesn't make Harvard's racism go away

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I don't know any Asian who supports the actions of this administration against universities.

Anyone who uses Asian bias in college admissions to push a MAGA agenda is a troll.

- Asian, who deplores any bias.

Exactly. You can be upset about (1) the use of DEI and affirmative action and/or (2) the presence of antisemitism on college campuses. But if you think that those concerns somehow validate (or make legal) the authoritarian actions that the President is taking against universities, then you are utterly devoid of critical thinking skills.

We're not upset about DEI. We're upset about racial discrimination against Asians. Stop pretending it was some minor foot fault. They were intentionally limiting Asian admissions which created a fukn hyper competitive arms race that ONLY Asians had to compete in to get into good schools. And it was mostly to make room for under qualified legacies and URM.

False.

It is basically a lottery for the vast majority of the high-achieving kids. Even legacy.

And your definition of “good schools” is very narrow.

Sure a lottery with an exceedingly predictable number of seats for Asians despite every increasing asian credentials.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump admin now saying they sent the letter to Harvard by mistake.

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2025/4/19/nyt-reports-trump-letter-error/

A few admin folks realized they were risking their kids' chances of admission. lol

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Anonymous wrote:Trump admin now saying they sent the letter to Harvard by mistake.

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2025/4/19/nyt-reports-trump-letter-error/

A few admin folks realized they were risking their kids' chances of admission. lol

Ha! No Harvard for anyone in that administration.

Also just saw that they are saying it's Harvard's fault for not realizing that the White House made a mistake - what a bunch of clowns.

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Anonymous wrote:CNN
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The Internal Revenue Service is making plans to rescind the tax-exempt status of Harvard University, according to two sources familiar with the matter, which would be an extraordinary step of retaliation as the Trump administration seeks to turn up pressure on the university that has defied its demands to change its hiring and other practices.

Not really that extraordinary. They were doing to have violated the constitutional rights of Asians by discriminating against them. Racial discrimination is how Bob Jones University lost it's tax exempt status.

You realize what Trump is doing is nothing to do with Asians …Trump is all about helping white males

That doesn't make Harvard's racism go away

Parrot

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Anonymous wrote:If needed, Harvard can literally geographically move. And God knows how many countries would love to host the university, whether shorter or longer term. And the US would be the ones to suffer, including not only in the brain /money/resource drain and benefits of international connectivity, but the research, the hospitals and other med facilities and programs, all of it. I don't think the current US administration realizes that, while changes would be difficult, inefficient and time consuming for Harvard, the university does not require federal funding, and does not need to be located in the US.

No other country permits holistic admissions. No other country allows unearned preferences of any sort

Really? So, what you’re saying is that people like Prince George, Princess Charlotte, and Prince Louis, and all of the offspring of billionaires that offer major donations have to work really really really hard or they won’t be accepted to the schools that they apply to unless they completely and unequivocally earn their spots. Great. Prove it.

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Anonymous wrote:If needed, Harvard can literally geographically move. And God knows how many countries would love to host the university, whether shorter or longer term. And the US would be the ones to suffer, including not only in the brain /money/resource drain and benefits of international connectivity, but the research, the hospitals and other med facilities and programs, all of it. I don't think the current US administration realizes that, while changes would be difficult, inefficient and time consuming for Harvard, the university does not require federal funding, and does not need to be located in the US.

No other country permits holistic admissions. No other country allows unearned preferences of any sort

Really? So, what you’re saying is that people like Prince George, Princess Charlotte, and Prince Louis, and all of the offspring of billionaires that offer major donations have to work really really really hard or they won’t be accepted to the schools that they apply to unless they completely and unequivocally earn their spots. Great. Prove it.

Did you not notice that Prince William with his middling A levels went to St Andrews and not Oxford or Cambridge? Prince Harry had zero O levels and didn’t go to any undergrad program. Yes the USA is exceptional in allowing people to buy access to universities.

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Hard to get more incompetent then the Trump admin who is now blaming Harvard for not realizing that the official letter signed by 3 administration officials was a “draft.”

Trump Officials Blame Mistake for Setting Off Confrontation With Harvard
An official on the administration’s antisemitism task force told the university that a letter of demands had been sent without authorization

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/18/business/trump-harvard-letter-mistake.html

Harvard University received an emailed letter from the Trump administration last Friday that included a series of demands about hiring, admissions and curriculum so onerous that school officials decided they had no choice but to take on the White House.

The university announced its intentions on Monday, setting off a tectonic battle between one of the country’s most prestigious universities and a U.S. president. Then, almost immediately, came a frantic call from a Trump official.

The April 11 letter from the White House’s task force on antisemitism, this official told Harvard, should not have been sent and was “unauthorized,” two people familiar with the matter said.

The letter was sent by the acting general counsel of the Department of Health and Human Services, Sean Keveney, according to three other people, who were briefed on the matter. Mr. Keveney is a member of the antisemitism task force.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this is an important point, when you say it is all BS. It actually is not all BS. I do feel bad for Harvard, because the Trump Administration is not negotiating in good faith and is overreaching. And certainly the threat of pulling Harvard’s tax exemption is grossly unfair and illegal. But it is not all BS. The race politics and race identity focus of Harvard is actually harming the people it is intended to help. The DEI programming was terribly misguided.
It is a tough situation. Trump is a bad person and a poor President, no doubt. But when a large number of your fellow Americans say something is wrong, I suggest you not dismiss it as BS coming from ignorant people. Instead, maybe you should think harder about why some of these people are upset and what solutions might be acceptable to both sides.

It's difficult to see it that way when the people criticizing "elite" universities are the graduates of those universities who (1) chose to attend (2) have benefitted greatly from their education there or (3) are not college-educated people who disparage college education to begin with.

DEI programming has gone off the rails in general. So FIX it by adjusting, not be entirely eliminating it and everything else ultra-conservatives dislike. But that's not what the administration is trying to do. They are not interested in fixing it. They are only interested in eliminating everything they dislike and/or stands in their way.

So what was the plan? Let's go so far to the left on all fronts that we lose the next election and trust that trump will cut just enough back to get us to a happy middle?

He can tearHarvard to the ground and he will lose exactly zero support over it.

The plan is exactly what they're doing. This administration wants to tear these things down entirely. For them, it's not really about excessive "wokism." It's using that as an excuse to eliminate everything that threatens or goes against wealthy white men in charge.

I'd argue we already went too far left and that's precisely why "we" lost the last election. The vast majority of the country straddles the center. What needs to happen is (1) the majority of Republicans in Congress need to grow their pair and start doing their jobs; (2) all electeds need to stop the "us/them" and "all or nothing" approach and actually get back to finding common ground and reasonable compromises; (3) democrats need to focus and simplify their messaging: for example, these multiple rallies/protests/demonstrations, whatever they're called, that are organized across the country today? They all have different focus and message despite the organizing group gathering its multi-party members under the shared concern about abiding by the Constitution, rule of law, separation of powers. Focus on THAT message. Stop focusing on whether or not Garcia is or is not an MS-13 gang member. It doesn't matter - the LAW is not being followed. All the nuance and righteous details go over most peoples' heads. Trump admin's bottom line is: he's a dangerous terrorist immigrant and should be deported. Dem's botton line SHOULD be: if he's a dangerous terrorist illegal immigrant, follow the legal process to deport him. Or, in this particular instance: the government made a mistake and has admitted its mistake; the government needs to correct the mistake.

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Anonymous wrote:If needed, Harvard can literally geographically move. And God knows how many countries would love to host the university, whether shorter or longer term. And the US would be the ones to suffer, including not only in the brain /money/resource drain and benefits of international connectivity, but the research, the hospitals and other med facilities and programs, all of it. I don't think the current US administration realizes that, while changes would be difficult, inefficient and time consuming for Harvard, the university does not require federal funding, and does not need to be located in the US.

No other country permits holistic admissions. No other country allows unearned preferences of any sort

No other country is the United States. No other country has the level of higher education system of the United States.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump admin now saying they sent the letter to Harvard by mistake.

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2025/4/19/nyt-reports-trump-letter-error/

Wow. This administration sure makes a lot of "errors." This is what they consider "meritocracy," eh?

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Anonymous wrote:Trump admin now saying they sent the letter to Harvard by mistake.

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2025/4/19/nyt-reports-trump-letter-error/

Wow. This administration sure makes a lot of "errors." This is what they consider "meritocracy," eh?

We are finding out what DEI government looks like!

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Anonymous wrote:If needed, Harvard can literally geographically move. And God knows how many countries would love to host the university, whether shorter or longer term. And the US would be the ones to suffer, including not only in the brain /money/resource drain and benefits of international connectivity, but the research, the hospitals and other med facilities and programs, all of it. I don't think the current US administration realizes that, while changes would be difficult, inefficient and time consuming for Harvard, the university does not require federal funding, and does not need to be located in the US.

No other country permits holistic admissions. No other country allows unearned preferences of any sort

You are so clueless…

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WSJ reports Trump will take away another $1B in funding from Harvard.

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Anonymous wrote:WSJ reports Trump will take away another $1B in funding from Harvard.

Makes him feel like a tough guy. Pleasing his late abusive father. And so many idiots think this is cool. The man is a childish loser. I really hope people are not raising their kids to be like this pathetic infant. So sad. America has been brainwashed.

I'm sure I will get some profound responses to this.