Harvard Rejects Trump Admin’s Demands, Going to Court

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Anonymous wrote:So dumb. “No government — regardless of which party is in power — should dictate what private universities can teach, whom they can admit and hire, and which areas of study and inquiry they can pursue”’

The government isn’t saying that. No one is forcing Harvard to do anything. They have a billion dollar endowment and can do as they please.

What they can’t do is foster an educational atmosphere of harassment and expect the taxpayers to finance it.

Sounds like you skipped the letter with the Trump admin’s demands. In the second link.

I literally quoted from the article.

No one is forcing Harvard to do anything.

Harvard is throwing a hissy fit because it wants to do certain things AND get taxpayer funds.

Doesn’t work like that.

You truly do not get it. There's a lot more at stake than Harvard. Colleges like Hillsdale are fine because they don't do cutting edge research that costs millions of dollars year in and year out. You are supporting the tactics of an authoritarian regime that is telling scholars and students what and how they should think, and allowing the mobs to take out people with whom you disagree. If you are in favor of these cuts because you are fearful of antisemitism or you think that Harvard is full of antisemites, you are foolish. Putin and Orban, and Mao all used these oppressive tactics. You're siding with the Devil, who will have no scruples turning on Jews when convenient.

Exactly this. Jews have just become a convenient excuse for repression and censorship by budding fascists and their right-wing toadies.

I want to see more Jews (I am Jewish) speak out about this. Stop using the historic hatred of Jews as a tool in fascism! I want nothing to do with this.

Also the way these people conflate anti-semitism with opposition to the current Israeli government does not in any way make me, a Jew, feel safer. I also oppose the actions of the current Israeli government. If I speak out about that, am I an anti-Semite?

We need to stop this.

I can't tell you how many Jewish people I know who believe this. You aren't allowed to saying ANYTHING negative about Israel ever.

That is absolute nonsense. Israelis protest their government daily. However, they also fight for their country because people like you believe they shouldn’t exist. From the river to the sea, your fav chant, yes?

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Kudos to Harvard. I hope more universities follow Harvard's lead and stand up for academic freedom. The reason the US has become such a powerful country in science and technology is due to the liberal arts education foundation that seeks diverse viewpoints and free discoveries.

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Anonymous wrote:So dumb. “No government — regardless of which party is in power — should dictate what private universities can teach, whom they can admit and hire, and which areas of study and inquiry they can pursue”’

The government isn’t saying that. No one is forcing Harvard to do anything. They have a billion dollar endowment and can do as they please.

What they can’t do is foster an educational atmosphere of harassment and expect the taxpayers to finance it.

Sounds like you skipped the letter with the Trump admin’s demands. In the second link.

I literally quoted from the article.

No one is forcing Harvard to do anything.

Harvard is throwing a hissy fit because it wants to do certain things AND get taxpayer funds.

Doesn’t work like that.

You truly do not get it. There's a lot more at stake than Harvard. Colleges like Hillsdale are fine because they don't do cutting edge research that costs millions of dollars year in and year out. You are supporting the tactics of an authoritarian regime that is telling scholars and students what and how they should think, and allowing the mobs to take out people with whom you disagree. If you are in favor of these cuts because you are fearful of antisemitism or you think that Harvard is full of antisemites, you are foolish. Putin and Orban, and Mao all used these oppressive tactics. You're siding with the Devil, who will have no scruples turning on Jews when convenient.

Exactly this. Jews have just become a convenient excuse for repression and censorship by budding fascists and their right-wing toadies.

I want to see more Jews (I am Jewish) speak out about this. Stop using the historic hatred of Jews as a tool in fascism! I want nothing to do with this.

Also the way these people conflate anti-semitism with opposition to the current Israeli government does not in any way make me, a Jew, feel safer. I also oppose the actions of the current Israeli government. If I speak out about that, am I an anti-Semite?

We need to stop this.

I can't tell you how many Jewish people I know who believe this. You aren't allowed to saying ANYTHING negative about Israel ever.

That is absolute nonsense. Israelis protest their government daily. However, they also fight for their country because people like you believe they shouldn’t exist. From the river to the sea, your fav chant, yes?

Where did PP say that Israel has no right to exist?!

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Anonymous wrote:Kudos to Harvard. I hope more universities follow Harvard's lead and stand up for academic freedom. The reason the US has become such a powerful country in science and technology is due to the liberal arts education foundation that seeks diverse viewpoints and free discoveries.

+1000. So disappointing to see Columbia's reaction. Glad someone is finally standing up to this bullying.

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A few of the federal demands are reasonable. There shouldn’t be DEI statements for hiring and promotion of staff. Improper conduct needs to be swiftly punished. But 85% of the federal demands are pure abuse.

I wish Harvard would stop its DEI nonsense. Claudine Gay should have lost her professorship over plagiarism. But this is cutting down the whole tree to trim some rotten branches.

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Anonymous wrote:So dumb. “No government — regardless of which party is in power — should dictate what private universities can teach, whom they can admit and hire, and which areas of study and inquiry they can pursue”’

The government isn’t saying that. No one is forcing Harvard to do anything. They have a billion dollar endowment and can do as they please.

What they can’t do is foster an educational atmosphere of harassment and expect the taxpayers to finance it.

Trump wants to limit free speech that he doesn't like. Does anyone remember, "there were very fine people on both sides?" He had no problem with the Proud boys and their vile "free speech".

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Anonymous wrote:A few of the federal demands are reasonable. There shouldn’t be DEI statements for hiring and promotion of staff. Improper conduct needs to be swiftly punished. But 85% of the federal demands are pure abuse.

I wish Harvard would stop its DEI nonsense. Claudine Gay should have lost her professorship over plagiarism. But this is cutting down the whole tree to trim some rotten branches.

And Melania Trump should have been deported after plagiarizing Michelle Obama's speech.

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Anonymous wrote:So dumb. “No government — regardless of which party is in power — should dictate what private universities can teach, whom they can admit and hire, and which areas of study and inquiry they can pursue”’

The government isn’t saying that. No one is forcing Harvard to do anything. They have a billion dollar endowment and can do as they please.

What they can’t do is foster an educational atmosphere of harassment and expect the taxpayers to finance it.

Sounds like you skipped the letter with the Trump admin’s demands. In the second link.

The Administration demanded requirements to “audit” the viewpoints of the student body, faculty, staff, and to “reduc[e] the power” of certain students, faculty, and administrators targeted because of their ideological views.

So glad Harvard is fighting back. The demands go far beyond protecting students from antisemitism (which Harvard agrees that it is working on). This case is much more important than just Harvard. It’s about viewpoint censorship, academic freedom, free speech. Core principles and requirements for a functioning democracy.

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I am fairly centrist on this issue. I am jewish and am not thrilled with some protests on college campuses.

However, I fully support this action by Harvard. The president should not be controlling these debates. They should be between the people. In fact, academic freedom (which they are limiting) is the greatest power we have in this. I hope more universities follow suit.

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Anonymous wrote:Kudos to Harvard. I hope more universities follow Harvard's lead and stand up for academic freedom. The reason the US has become such a powerful country in science and technology is due to the liberal arts education foundation that seeks diverse viewpoints and free discoveries.

+1000. So disappointing to see Columbia's reaction. Glad someone is finally standing up to this bullying.

Princeton was comfortably ahead of harvard on this issue. By weeks.

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Anonymous wrote:Good for them! Obviously, they can do it due to their deep pockets. But someone has to stand up to this horrid administration.

+1. If not Harvard, who will?

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Anonymous wrote:Kudos to Harvard. I hope more universities follow Harvard's lead and stand up for academic freedom. The reason the US has become such a powerful country in science and technology is due to the liberal arts education foundation that seeks diverse viewpoints and free discoveries.

+1000. So disappointing to see Columbia's reaction. Glad someone is finally standing up to this bullying.

Princeton was comfortably ahead of harvard on this issue. By weeks.

Proud of them, too.

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Anonymous wrote:A few of the federal demands are reasonable. There shouldn’t be DEI statements for hiring and promotion of staff. Improper conduct needs to be swiftly punished. But 85% of the federal demands are pure abuse.

I wish Harvard would stop its DEI nonsense. Claudine Gay should have lost her professorship over plagiarism. But this is cutting down the whole tree to trim some rotten branches.

And Melania Trump should have been deported after plagiarizing Michelle Obama's speech.

+1. That was so blatant. Melania is an empty shell.

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Thank you Harvard!

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Anonymous wrote:Kudos to Harvard. I hope more universities follow Harvard's lead and stand up for academic freedom. The reason the US has become such a powerful country in science and technology is due to the liberal arts education foundation that seeks diverse viewpoints and free discoveries.

+1000. So disappointing to see Columbia's reaction. Glad someone is finally standing up to this bullying.

Princeton was comfortably ahead of harvard on this issue. By weeks.

This is not a competition