What is your federal agency telling you re: RTO? (No other rants/comments!)

[Anonymous]

DOJ component back 5 days a week starting feb 24. Unclear about flex days…if they remove all AWS, I’m leaving my laptop on Friday at 5 pm in my office

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I remember for a while there was a stream of trainings I believe were related to DEI. I hated them, and fortunately for me I had mission critical work to do and my boss didn’t care if I watched the DEI trainings because we had actual work and deadlines to attend to.

I mean, ALL of the trainings suck so it's not like I loved the DEI trainings. They're goofy, but they're all goofy. What didn't you like about them? Treat your co-workers with respect? Doesn't seem so horrible.

Yeah, except that’s not what they were.
At my place, some trainings were to “educate” us about gender ideology, pronouns, everything race or gender based. A very specific set of ideas. Not simply about treating others with respect.

And those trainings were 30 hrs long?

[Anonymous]

https://www.reddit.com/r/fednews/comments/1ieynko/here_is_the_dod_rto_policy_signed_by_secdef/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

DoD guidance, but some are saying they do not see this document on a public website.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DOJ component back 5 days a week starting feb 24. Unclear about flex days…if they remove all AWS, I’m leaving my laptop on Friday at 5 pm in my office

You should!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DOJ component back 5 days a week starting feb 24. Unclear about flex days…if they remove all AWS, I’m leaving my laptop on Friday at 5 pm in my office

Same here.

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Anonymous wrote:DOJ component back 5 days a week starting feb 24. Unclear about flex days…if they remove all AWS, I’m leaving my laptop on Friday at 5 pm in my office

You should!

Why would you do anything else? Weird.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DOJ component back 5 days a week starting feb 24. Unclear about flex days…if they remove all AWS, I’m leaving my laptop on Friday at 5 pm in my office

You should!

Why would you do anything else? Weird.

It goes against our culture. We typically work unpaid overtime to make sure everything is perfect. To just stop working at 5, when there is work to be done, will be super weird

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For supervisors, how are you handling discussions around this with your employees? I find it challenging to balance toeing the company line for risk of being fired with being sympathetic to how disruptive this will be to people’s lives (though I feel some of the DCUM responses are a bit entitled also)

I'm a supervisor and I honestly don't care.

Take the deal and come to work or quit. I'm sick and tired of the entitlement from other federal workers. Democracy goes both ways. We all sat through years of DEI training and the other craziness during the Biden years that a lot of us disagreed with. I remember sitting in training and having some GS14 patronize us and tell us if we disagreed with DEI then we were racist. Hope she likes unemployment and all the other people who joined in enjoy their commutes.

"Elections have consequences" - Barrack Hussein Obama

Your post has some racist dogwhistle language in it. I’m glad you’re not my supervisor. You shouldn’t be allowed to manage anyone.

It's probably someone that doesn't actually work for the federal government. I've been at my agency for over a decade and we never had any DEI training. And if there was anything to that effect it certainly was not mandatory.

As I have written elsewhere here I probably had over 30 hours of mandatory DEI training during the Biden administration. Most of it done at night because I was too busy during the day.

Oh, yeah? What were the trainings? Name the courses.

“Things that never happened: conservative derangement edition”
“Fiction writing for DCUM”

You’re full of it bro. I don’t even think we have 30 hours of training in general.

You have clearly never been a manager at the Department of Labor.

Anti-harassment training is not DEI. What were the specific trainings that so offended you?

Yes it is. Eveyone thinks their issues are too "good" to be part of DEI

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I remember for a while there was a stream of trainings I believe were related to DEI. I hated them, and fortunately for me I had mission critical work to do and my boss didn’t care if I watched the DEI trainings because we had actual work and deadlines to attend to.

I mean, ALL of the trainings suck so it's not like I loved the DEI trainings. They're goofy, but they're all goofy. What didn't you like about them? Treat your co-workers with respect? Doesn't seem so horrible.

This is my favorite response to the whole DEI discussion.

[Anonymous]

We were told:
-still have AWS
-still have situational telework and we'd only need to get manager's approval
-they're still unsure about remote people but will likely find them places to work near their homes.

Seems like this won't be a big deal for remote people like it was thought.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We were told:
-still have AWS
-still have situational telework and we'd only need to get manager's approval
-they're still unsure about remote people but will likely find them places to work near their homes.

Seems like this won't be a big deal for remote people like it was thought.

Is this referring to DOJ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We were told:
-still have AWS
-still have situational telework and we'd only need to get manager's approval
-they're still unsure about remote people but will likely find them places to work near their homes.

Seems like this won't be a big deal for remote people like it was thought.

They haven’t clarified if I have to be in the office the 5 days for 8 hours, or if I can go into the office 10-3, and do the rest teleworking at home. If I can’t telework at all on a regular basis like that, I will just do my 8 and leave the laptop in the office. F*ck them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were told:
-still have AWS
-still have situational telework and we'd only need to get manager's approval
-they're still unsure about remote people but will likely find them places to work near their homes.

Seems like this won't be a big deal for remote people like it was thought.

They haven’t clarified if I have to be in the office the 5 days for 8 hours, or if I can go into the office 10-3, and do the rest teleworking at home. If I can’t telework at all on a regular basis like that, I will just do my 8 and leave the laptop in the office. F*ck them.

Unless you have another job offer and are trying to decide whether to take it, why are you asking this? You’ll just encourage a no or firm stance that affects all workers. Stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were told:
-still have AWS
-still have situational telework and we'd only need to get manager's approval
-they're still unsure about remote people but will likely find them places to work near their homes.

Seems like this won't be a big deal for remote people like it was thought.

They haven’t clarified if I have to be in the office the 5 days for 8 hours, or if I can go into the office 10-3, and do the rest teleworking at home. If I can’t telework at all on a regular basis like that, I will just do my 8 and leave the laptop in the office. F*ck them.

Pp here- no my agency clarified that you are ONLY allowed to telework situationally. You absolutely can’t do less than 40 hours in office like you’re saying.

Just work 7-3:30 like most feds used to do years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:We were told:
-still have AWS
-still have situational telework and we'd only need to get manager's approval
-they're still unsure about remote people but will likely find them places to work near their homes.

Seems like this won't be a big deal for remote people like it was thought.

They haven’t clarified if I have to be in the office the 5 days for 8 hours, or if I can go into the office 10-3, and do the rest teleworking at home. If I can’t telework at all on a regular basis like that, I will just do my 8 and leave the laptop in the office. F*ck them.

Unless you have another job offer and are trying to decide whether to take it, why are you asking this? You’ll just encourage a no or firm stance that affects all workers. Stop.

Because this kind of flexibility is good???? Are you thick? That’s why I’m asking. I can’t get fired as a fed for working 40 hours. I just won’t work more than 40 as I tend to do with the telework flexibilities