What is your federal agency telling you re: RTO? (No other rants/comments!)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For supervisors, how are you handling discussions around this with your employees? I find it challenging to balance toeing the company line for risk of being fired with being sympathetic to how disruptive this will be to people’s lives (though I feel some of the DCUM responses are a bit entitled also)

I'm a supervisor and I honestly don't care.

Take the deal and come to work or quit. I'm sick and tired of the entitlement from other federal workers. Democracy goes both ways. We all sat through years of DEI training and the other craziness during the Biden years that a lot of us disagreed with. I remember sitting in training and having some GS14 patronize us and tell us if we disagreed with DEI then we were racist. Hope she likes unemployment and all the other people who joined in enjoy their commutes.

"Elections have consequences" - Barrack Hussein Obama

Your post has some racist dogwhistle language in it. I’m glad you’re not my supervisor. You shouldn’t be allowed to manage anyone.

It's probably someone that doesn't actually work for the federal government. I've been at my agency for over a decade and we never had any DEI training. And if there was anything to that effect it certainly was not mandatory.

As I have written elsewhere here I probably had over 30 hours of mandatory DEI training during the Biden administration. Most of it done at night because I was too busy during the day.

It varies by office. I've been at 2 offices within the same bureau that do basically the same thing just at different locations and one was heavily focused on DEI and the other never mentioned it a single time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For supervisors, how are you handling discussions around this with your employees? I find it challenging to balance toeing the company line for risk of being fired with being sympathetic to how disruptive this will be to people’s lives (though I feel some of the DCUM responses are a bit entitled also)

I'm a supervisor and I honestly don't care.

Take the deal and come to work or quit. I'm sick and tired of the entitlement from other federal workers. Democracy goes both ways. We all sat through years of DEI training and the other craziness during the Biden years that a lot of us disagreed with. I remember sitting in training and having some GS14 patronize us and tell us if we disagreed with DEI then we were racist. Hope she likes unemployment and all the other people who joined in enjoy their commutes.

"Elections have consequences" - Barrack Hussein Obama

Your post has some racist dogwhistle language in it. I’m glad you’re not my supervisor. You shouldn’t be allowed to manage anyone.

It's probably someone that doesn't actually work for the federal government. I've been at my agency for over a decade and we never had any DEI training. And if there was anything to that effect it certainly was not mandatory.

As I have written elsewhere here I probably had over 30 hours of mandatory DEI training during the Biden administration. Most of it done at night because I was too busy during the day.

Oh, yeah? What were the trainings? Name the courses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My division in DOJ returned last week full time.
Those that
Moved out of the area have to commute to field office; no exceptions.

They took attendance twice last week. Just knock on office door and check your name off.
Not sure how they are verifying ones going to field offices.

Who took attendance? What if someone stepped out of their office for a few minutes? Or was elsewhere in the building attending a meeting?

[Anonymous]

This is all part of Trump and Musk ushering in their so called "Golden Age" of America, which really means they want to go back to the Gilded Age when the rich were rich and everyone else was poor and had no labor laws.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My division in DOJ returned last week full time.
Those that
Moved out of the area have to commute to field office; no exceptions.

They took attendance twice last week. Just knock on office door and check your name off.
Not sure how they are verifying ones going to field offices.

Who took attendance? What if someone stepped out of their office for a few minutes? Or was elsewhere in the building attending a meeting?

They tell us they need us in the building to circulate and have better face to face time with our clients et al, then ding us if we aren't sitting in our office.

"You tell me get a job then you ask where the hell I've been."

Messy, indeed.

[Anonymous]

NIST within DoC still has not sent out a single email on RTO (or anything else since Trump took office). Word is trickling down that the DoC email applies, but neither the Trump appointee, Craig Burkhart, nor any career senior staff at NIST have said anything. It is shocking.

We've heard from the acting director exactly once: on Friday, being told that a NIST staff member was on the plane that crashed at DCA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For supervisors, how are you handling discussions around this with your employees? I find it challenging to balance toeing the company line for risk of being fired with being sympathetic to how disruptive this will be to people’s lives (though I feel some of the DCUM responses are a bit entitled also)

I'm a supervisor and I honestly don't care.

Take the deal and come to work or quit. I'm sick and tired of the entitlement from other federal workers. Democracy goes both ways. We all sat through years of DEI training and the other craziness during the Biden years that a lot of us disagreed with. I remember sitting in training and having some GS14 patronize us and tell us if we disagreed with DEI then we were racist. Hope she likes unemployment and all the other people who joined in enjoy their commutes.

"Elections have consequences" - Barrack Hussein Obama

Your post has some racist dogwhistle language in it. I’m glad you’re not my supervisor. You shouldn’t be allowed to manage anyone.

It's probably someone that doesn't actually work for the federal government. I've been at my agency for over a decade and we never had any DEI training. And if there was anything to that effect it certainly was not mandatory.

As I have written elsewhere here I probably had over 30 hours of mandatory DEI training during the Biden administration. Most of it done at night because I was too busy during the day.

Oh, yeah? What were the trainings? Name the courses.

I don't want to get that agency into trouble, given that certain peckerwoods might be reading this board.

[Anonymous]

CSOSA - do as we are told. No advice from legal or HR. So helpful. Any other time, Legal is up our ass about a missing comma but suspiciously silent now that we actually need their advice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For supervisors, how are you handling discussions around this with your employees? I find it challenging to balance toeing the company line for risk of being fired with being sympathetic to how disruptive this will be to people’s lives (though I feel some of the DCUM responses are a bit entitled also)

I'm a supervisor and I honestly don't care.

Take the deal and come to work or quit. I'm sick and tired of the entitlement from other federal workers. Democracy goes both ways. We all sat through years of DEI training and the other craziness during the Biden years that a lot of us disagreed with. I remember sitting in training and having some GS14 patronize us and tell us if we disagreed with DEI then we were racist. Hope she likes unemployment and all the other people who joined in enjoy their commutes.

"Elections have consequences" - Barrack Hussein Obama

Your post has some racist dogwhistle language in it. I’m glad you’re not my supervisor. You shouldn’t be allowed to manage anyone.

It's probably someone that doesn't actually work for the federal government. I've been at my agency for over a decade and we never had any DEI training. And if there was anything to that effect it certainly was not mandatory.

As I have written elsewhere here I probably had over 30 hours of mandatory DEI training during the Biden administration. Most of it done at night because I was too busy during the day.

Oh, yeah? What were the trainings? Name the courses.

“Things that never happened: conservative derangement edition”
“Fiction writing for DCUM”

You’re full of it bro. I don’t even think we have 30 hours of training in general.

[Anonymous]

Well, at least the private sector is about to deal with the same thing. They are even considering adopting the "insulting emails until they quit" method:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/03/work-culture-strict-policies-trump-trends/

[Anonymous]

I remember for a while there was a stream of trainings I believe were related to DEI. I hated them, and fortunately for me I had mission critical work to do and my boss didn’t care if I watched the DEI trainings because we had actual work and deadlines to attend to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I remember for a while there was a stream of trainings I believe were related to DEI. I hated them, and fortunately for me I had mission critical work to do and my boss didn’t care if I watched the DEI trainings because we had actual work and deadlines to attend to.

I mean, ALL of the trainings suck so it's not like I loved the DEI trainings. They're goofy, but they're all goofy. What didn't you like about them? Treat your co-workers with respect? Doesn't seem so horrible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For supervisors, how are you handling discussions around this with your employees? I find it challenging to balance toeing the company line for risk of being fired with being sympathetic to how disruptive this will be to people’s lives (though I feel some of the DCUM responses are a bit entitled also)

I'm a supervisor and I honestly don't care.

Take the deal and come to work or quit. I'm sick and tired of the entitlement from other federal workers. Democracy goes both ways. We all sat through years of DEI training and the other craziness during the Biden years that a lot of us disagreed with. I remember sitting in training and having some GS14 patronize us and tell us if we disagreed with DEI then we were racist. Hope she likes unemployment and all the other people who joined in enjoy their commutes.

"Elections have consequences" - Barrack Hussein Obama

Your post has some racist dogwhistle language in it. I’m glad you’re not my supervisor. You shouldn’t be allowed to manage anyone.

It's probably someone that doesn't actually work for the federal government. I've been at my agency for over a decade and we never had any DEI training. And if there was anything to that effect it certainly was not mandatory.

As I have written elsewhere here I probably had over 30 hours of mandatory DEI training during the Biden administration. Most of it done at night because I was too busy during the day.

Oh, yeah? What were the trainings? Name the courses.

“Things that never happened: conservative derangement edition”
“Fiction writing for DCUM”

You’re full of it bro. I don’t even think we have 30 hours of training in general.

You have clearly never been a manager at the Department of Labor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For supervisors, how are you handling discussions around this with your employees? I find it challenging to balance toeing the company line for risk of being fired with being sympathetic to how disruptive this will be to people’s lives (though I feel some of the DCUM responses are a bit entitled also)

I'm a supervisor and I honestly don't care.

Take the deal and come to work or quit. I'm sick and tired of the entitlement from other federal workers. Democracy goes both ways. We all sat through years of DEI training and the other craziness during the Biden years that a lot of us disagreed with. I remember sitting in training and having some GS14 patronize us and tell us if we disagreed with DEI then we were racist. Hope she likes unemployment and all the other people who joined in enjoy their commutes.

"Elections have consequences" - Barrack Hussein Obama

Your post has some racist dogwhistle language in it. I’m glad you’re not my supervisor. You shouldn’t be allowed to manage anyone.

It's probably someone that doesn't actually work for the federal government. I've been at my agency for over a decade and we never had any DEI training. And if there was anything to that effect it certainly was not mandatory.

As I have written elsewhere here I probably had over 30 hours of mandatory DEI training during the Biden administration. Most of it done at night because I was too busy during the day.

Oh, yeah? What were the trainings? Name the courses.

“Things that never happened: conservative derangement edition”
“Fiction writing for DCUM”

You’re full of it bro. I don’t even think we have 30 hours of training in general.

You have clearly never been a manager at the Department of Labor.

Anti-harassment training is not DEI. What were the specific trainings that so offended you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I remember for a while there was a stream of trainings I believe were related to DEI. I hated them, and fortunately for me I had mission critical work to do and my boss didn’t care if I watched the DEI trainings because we had actual work and deadlines to attend to.

I mean, ALL of the trainings suck so it's not like I loved the DEI trainings. They're goofy, but they're all goofy. What didn't you like about them? Treat your co-workers with respect? Doesn't seem so horrible.

Yeah, except that’s not what they were.
At my place, some trainings were to “educate” us about gender ideology, pronouns, everything race or gender based. A very specific set of ideas. Not simply about treating others with respect.