We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC

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Anonymous wrote:The government lies while people die

Bowser and the Council have known that the majority of gun and felony cases were not being prosecuted by USAO (before Graves' time). There was no public outcry, request for Congressional hearings, nada.

Here we are 5 years later with activists calling the shots and HUNDREDS of dead black and brown people, many children. Rather than reverse course, the plan seems to be more of the same.

Genuinely wonder if eugenicists are among the funders of the front groups. Outcomes that trigger horror in normal people seem minimized by DCJL, DSA, Mendelson and others.

THIS. Bowser and the Council should be leading protests, sit ins and denouncements if they don't like the prosecution rates. One can only conclude they do.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this is true.

Saw a thread @ concealed carry. If it's you and several teens, your gun is not enough. False sense of security. Also, you are not unlikely to be tried and convicted. The Fed LE shooting is a special case.

Cause the armed pre-teens are professionally trained? Give me a break. At least I’ll take a couple with me worst come to worst

I’d vote for a strong castle doctrine

Precedent in DC that you shoot a teen, you go to prison.

Castle doctrine? Lady, you are in DC, not TX. Did you break out the wine early today?

Nah. Broke out my application for CCP.

TX is tame compared to the daily crap in DC

[Anonymous]

Put a castle doctrine/stand your ground as the next DC local elections Prop — see what happens. Enjoy the fireworks! You earned them.

[Anonymous]

Do you not reasonably believe this in DC?

“However, if you reasonably believe that an intruder is entering your home or business with the intent to commit a felony (such as murder, rape, robbery or burglary) or seriously harm any of its occupants, you may use deadly force.”

We should add “and car”. And then make sure these are still felonies and not ANC-award-winning activities

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you not reasonably believe this in DC?

“However, if you reasonably believe that an intruder is entering your home or business with the intent to commit a felony (such as murder, rape, robbery or burglary) or seriously harm any of its occupants, you may use deadly force.”

We should add “and car”. And then make sure these are still felonies and not ANC-award-winning activities

A street robbery is far more likely than a home invasion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The government lies while people die

Bowser and the Council have known that the majority of gun and felony cases were not being prosecuted by USAO (before Graves' time). There was no public outcry, request for Congressional hearings, nada.

Here we are 5 years later with activists calling the shots and HUNDREDS of dead black and brown people, many children. Rather than reverse course, the plan seems to be more of the same.

Genuinely wonder if eugenicists are among the funders of the front groups. Outcomes that trigger horror in normal people seem minimized by DCJL, DSA, Mendelson and others.

THIS. Bowser and the Council should be leading protests, sit ins and denouncements if they don't like the prosecution rates. One can only conclude they do.

Not too many other conclusions to draw.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The government lies while people die

Bowser and the Council have known that the majority of gun and felony cases were not being prosecuted by USAO (before Graves' time). There was no public outcry, request for Congressional hearings, nada.

Here we are 5 years later with activists calling the shots and HUNDREDS of dead black and brown people, many children. Rather than reverse course, the plan seems to be more of the same.

Genuinely wonder if eugenicists are among the funders of the front groups. Outcomes that trigger horror in normal people seem minimized by DCJL, DSA, Mendelson and others.

THIS. Bowser and the Council should be leading protests, sit ins and denouncements if they don't like the prosecution rates. One can only conclude they do.

Just HOW can any of you complain about any of these leaders?

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IS PRO CHOICE !!

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Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with the OP, we need to dig deeper into a lot of these youth to see how we can support them as a society. The recurring same policies and tactics are no longer working and therefore we cannot keep asking why longer-harsher prison sentences are not working. We need to work on a new revolutionary idea in criminal enforcement. Broken children become broken adults when coupled with generational trauma.

There is enough money in DC, but not enough social workers.

No, that’s not it. Harsh sentences absolutely do work, they just have to be consistently enforced. Have you been in Singapore?
Of course, it should be a multi-pronged approach. Consistent enforcement is just one aspect, and that must include the adults around these kids.

I heard a social worker on the radio this morning lamenting that he’s visited the kids’ homes who are repeatedly stealing cars and engaging in criminal activities.
His complaint: There were drugs in the home, and no food in the fridge.

To this I would say that these youths then should be removed from these environments that are not homes.
More social workers are not going to make a difference in these situations. These kids are already eligible for free food, free healthcare, and free education.
Support systems that kids in other countries could only dream of! Yet it does not help at all, it has no positive impact. Why is that?

Things not earned have no value. When you work to earn your food you appreciate. When you work to pay your rent or mortgage you are invested in the neighborhood.

Exactly, as the other poster said Singapore has some draconian laws, but hey they work. They ensure that crime is low. And keep in mind that Singapore is a very very expensive country/city to live in and has its own problems with poverty, but those people don't turn to crime.

As an immigrant from a country where it's hard to make something of yourself, whenever I hear people here complain about the "injustice" and etc, I simply scoff at that. I am sorry, you) they were born in the US, which provides people with boundless opportunities. It is on them to make something of themselves. And even then, they have many programs to support (as you said, kids in many countries would dream of that), yet those people turn to crime and people keep complaining about "systemic injustices" . I am sorry at some point it is a them problem, and If they turn to crime (especially violent crime), I am sorry but the full force of the law should be brought down upon them (max punishment, keeping them in jail before their trials, etc).

No thanks, I don't want to live in a back water 3rd world country like Singapore. Max punishment is not going to work because crime will still happen, it just means more underground deals and dirtier politicians who you think are keeping you safe but are not. If your country was so awesome in justice, equity and fairness you would not have moved to America. Obviously, as the news pointed out, the man was having a mental health crisis. Apart of fairness is equity and a social net. Countries without such can expect to fail and have the illest in society disrupt their peace.

I am pretty sure you couldn’t find Singapore on a map and have no idea anything about the country. Surveillance by cctv is everywhere and crime is harshly punished. As a result citizens give up some freedoms but live in a society where they don’t have to worry about getting randomly robbed and assaulted, walking over human feces, getting harassed by mentally unstable people, getting carjacked by a 13 year old, etc.

In the United States the car theft rate is 287 per 100,000 while in Singapore it is 1 per 100,000. In DC it is 651 per 100,000.

Singapore is the third safest country in the world.

A crappy Toyota Corolla in Singapore costs $120K because the government doesn’t want people to drive. If you give up freedom for security, you’ll pay for it everyday of your life.



The US gives citizens a wide degree of freedom.

My god you sound entitled and make no sense at the same time. Singapore is not taking away people's freedom to drive, yeah cars are taxed to incentive people to use cars less, but that is not the same thing as "taking away freedom to drive". If you can buy one you can drive one (and many in SG do because they are educated and hard working enough to be able to afford it). But the benefit of fewer cars is less pollution and traffic. Moreover, public transportation in Singapore is excellent so no need to have a car. If you got out of your bubble you would realize people in many countries don't need cars (for example many European cities) due to excellent public transportation.

Let me guess on your freedom charade, you are also a supported of the dumb 2nd amendment and right to bear arms? I am sure you would be happy to sacrifice other people's right to safe environments (for example sage schools) just so you could carry a gun?

Last, on your point on privacy, in today's world there is no such thing. You have a cellphone and on the internet? Then you have no privacy already, these companies know everything about you...so your point in that makes no sense.

Speaking of Singapore, flogging juvenile criminals who carjack and commit certain other violent crimes would be a strong deterrent that need not involve a lengthy prison sentence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How do you propose to get the federally appointed USAO, with a no paper rate of 67%, and federally appointed judges, many of whom used to be public defenders, to do that?

Plus MPD cops who couldn't be assed to do their jobs. Many of them are not interested in making arrests.

Please explain how it helps to arrest people who are only going to be released? Then repeat.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How do you propose to get the federally appointed USAO, with a no paper rate of 67%, and federally appointed judges, many of whom used to be public defenders, to do that?

Plus MPD cops who couldn't be assed to do their jobs. Many of them are not interested in making arrests.

Please explain how it helps to arrest people who are only going to be released? Then repeat.

Because that's their role in the system. Prosecution is someone else's. If the cops don't arrest then it's their fault. If the prosecutors don't prosecute then it's their fault. But the arrest has to happen first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We should focus on housing, providing mental health services and other holistic wrap around services for teens and the mentally ill.... many of whom are Vietnam veterans.

I heard someone on the radio mention they are a social worker and found teens who are committing the acts do not have food in their homes and are often unsupervised due to lack of proper parental care.

This country should be ashamed of itself for not doing enough for its taxed citizens.

Failure to care for everyone in society leads to these kind of outcomes.

It’s not 80 year old Vietnam vets that are carjacking and shooting people in the head.

Heard the same radio show; Remove the teens from this environment is the only answer.

The city is already spending 115 million dollars per year on services! Yet it doesn’t help!

[Anonymous]

And the financial woes are at the door...

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Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with the OP, we need to dig deeper into a lot of these youth to see how we can support them as a society. The recurring same policies and tactics are no longer working and therefore we cannot keep asking why longer-harsher prison sentences are not working. We need to work on a new revolutionary idea in criminal enforcement. Broken children become broken adults when coupled with generational trauma.

There is enough money in DC, but not enough social workers.

No, that’s not it. Harsh sentences absolutely do work, they just have to be consistently enforced. Have you been in Singapore?
Of course, it should be a multi-pronged approach. Consistent enforcement is just one aspect, and that must include the adults around these kids.

I heard a social worker on the radio this morning lamenting that he’s visited the kids’ homes who are repeatedly stealing cars and engaging in criminal activities.
His complaint: There were drugs in the home, and no food in the fridge.

To this I would say that these youths then should be removed from these environments that are not homes.
More social workers are not going to make a difference in these situations. These kids are already eligible for free food, free healthcare, and free education.
Support systems that kids in other countries could only dream of! Yet it does not help at all, it has no positive impact. Why is that?

Things not earned have no value. When you work to earn your food you appreciate. When you work to pay your rent or mortgage you are invested in the neighborhood.

Exactly, as the other poster said Singapore has some draconian laws, but hey they work. They ensure that crime is low. And keep in mind that Singapore is a very very expensive country/city to live in and has its own problems with poverty, but those people don't turn to crime.

As an immigrant from a country where it's hard to make something of yourself, whenever I hear people here complain about the "injustice" and etc, I simply scoff at that. I am sorry, you) they were born in the US, which provides people with boundless opportunities. It is on them to make something of themselves. And even then, they have many programs to support (as you said, kids in many countries would dream of that), yet those people turn to crime and people keep complaining about "systemic injustices" . I am sorry at some point it is a them problem, and If they turn to crime (especially violent crime), I am sorry but the full force of the law should be brought down upon them (max punishment, keeping them in jail before their trials, etc).

No thanks, I don't want to live in a back water 3rd world country like Singapore. Max punishment is not going to work because crime will still happen, it just means more underground deals and dirtier politicians who you think are keeping you safe but are not. If your country was so awesome in justice, equity and fairness you would not have moved to America. Obviously, as the news pointed out, the man was having a mental health crisis. Apart of fairness is equity and a social net. Countries without such can expect to fail and have the illest in society disrupt their peace.

I am pretty sure you couldn’t find Singapore on a map and have no idea anything about the country. Surveillance by cctv is everywhere and crime is harshly punished. As a result citizens give up some freedoms but live in a society where they don’t have to worry about getting randomly robbed and assaulted, walking over human feces, getting harassed by mentally unstable people, getting carjacked by a 13 year old, etc.

In the United States the car theft rate is 287 per 100,000 while in Singapore it is 1 per 100,000. In DC it is 651 per 100,000.

Singapore is the third safest country in the world.

A crappy Toyota Corolla in Singapore costs $120K because the government doesn’t want people to drive. If you give up freedom for security, you’ll pay for it everyday of your life.



The US gives citizens a wide degree of freedom.

My god you sound entitled and make no sense at the same time. Singapore is not taking away people's freedom to drive, yeah cars are taxed to incentive people to use cars less, but that is not the same thing as "taking away freedom to drive". If you can buy one you can drive one (and many in SG do because they are educated and hard working enough to be able to afford it). But the benefit of fewer cars is less pollution and traffic. Moreover, public transportation in Singapore is excellent so no need to have a car. If you got out of your bubble you would realize people in many countries don't need cars (for example many European cities) due to excellent public transportation.

Let me guess on your freedom charade, you are also a supported of the dumb 2nd amendment and right to bear arms? I am sure you would be happy to sacrifice other people's right to safe environments (for example sage schools) just so you could carry a gun?

Last, on your point on privacy, in today's world there is no such thing. You have a cellphone and on the internet? Then you have no privacy already, these companies know everything about you...so your point in that makes no sense.

Speaking of Singapore, flogging juvenile criminals who carjack and commit certain other violent crimes would be a strong deterrent that need not involve a lengthy prison sentence.

I don’t think the flogging is the deterrent. They execute drug dealers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We should focus on housing, providing mental health services and other holistic wrap around services for teens and the mentally ill.... many of whom are Vietnam veterans.

I heard someone on the radio mention they are a social worker and found teens who are committing the acts do not have food in their homes and are often unsupervised due to lack of proper parental care.

This country should be ashamed of itself for not doing enough for its taxed citizens.

Failure to care for everyone in society leads to these kind of outcomes.

It’s not 80 year old Vietnam vets that are carjacking and shooting people in the head.

Heard the same radio show; Remove the teens from this environment is the only answer.

The city is already spending 115 million dollars per year on services! Yet it doesn’t help!

Research has shown that removing teens from their support systems only makes the problem worse.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with the OP, we need to dig deeper into a lot of these youth to see how we can support them as a society. The recurring same policies and tactics are no longer working and therefore we cannot keep asking why longer-harsher prison sentences are not working. We need to work on a new revolutionary idea in criminal enforcement. Broken children become broken adults when coupled with generational trauma.

There is enough money in DC, but not enough social workers.

No, that’s not it. Harsh sentences absolutely do work, they just have to be consistently enforced. Have you been in Singapore?
Of course, it should be a multi-pronged approach. Consistent enforcement is just one aspect, and that must include the adults around these kids.

I heard a social worker on the radio this morning lamenting that he’s visited the kids’ homes who are repeatedly stealing cars and engaging in criminal activities.
His complaint: There were drugs in the home, and no food in the fridge.

To this I would say that these youths then should be removed from these environments that are not homes.
More social workers are not going to make a difference in these situations. These kids are already eligible for free food, free healthcare, and free education.
Support systems that kids in other countries could only dream of! Yet it does not help at all, it has no positive impact. Why is that?

Things not earned have no value. When you work to earn your food you appreciate. When you work to pay your rent or mortgage you are invested in the neighborhood.

Exactly, as the other poster said Singapore has some draconian laws, but hey they work. They ensure that crime is low. And keep in mind that Singapore is a very very expensive country/city to live in and has its own problems with poverty, but those people don't turn to crime.

As an immigrant from a country where it's hard to make something of yourself, whenever I hear people here complain about the "injustice" and etc, I simply scoff at that. I am sorry, you) they were born in the US, which provides people with boundless opportunities. It is on them to make something of themselves. And even then, they have many programs to support (as you said, kids in many countries would dream of that), yet those people turn to crime and people keep complaining about "systemic injustices" . I am sorry at some point it is a them problem, and If they turn to crime (especially violent crime), I am sorry but the full force of the law should be brought down upon them (max punishment, keeping them in jail before their trials, etc).

No thanks, I don't want to live in a back water 3rd world country like Singapore. Max punishment is not going to work because crime will still happen, it just means more underground deals and dirtier politicians who you think are keeping you safe but are not. If your country was so awesome in justice, equity and fairness you would not have moved to America. Obviously, as the news pointed out, the man was having a mental health crisis. Apart of fairness is equity and a social net. Countries without such can expect to fail and have the illest in society disrupt their peace.

I am pretty sure you couldn’t find Singapore on a map and have no idea anything about the country. Surveillance by cctv is everywhere and crime is harshly punished. As a result citizens give up some freedoms but live in a society where they don’t have to worry about getting randomly robbed and assaulted, walking over human feces, getting harassed by mentally unstable people, getting carjacked by a 13 year old, etc.

In the United States the car theft rate is 287 per 100,000 while in Singapore it is 1 per 100,000. In DC it is 651 per 100,000.

Singapore is the third safest country in the world.

A crappy Toyota Corolla in Singapore costs $120K because the government doesn’t want people to drive. If you give up freedom for security, you’ll pay for it everyday of your life.



The US gives citizens a wide degree of freedom.

My god you sound entitled and make no sense at the same time. Singapore is not taking away people's freedom to drive, yeah cars are taxed to incentive people to use cars less, but that is not the same thing as "taking away freedom to drive". If you can buy one you can drive one (and many in SG do because they are educated and hard working enough to be able to afford it). But the benefit of fewer cars is less pollution and traffic. Moreover, public transportation in Singapore is excellent so no need to have a car. If you got out of your bubble you would realize people in many countries don't need cars (for example many European cities) due to excellent public transportation.

Let me guess on your freedom charade, you are also a supported of the dumb 2nd amendment and right to bear arms? I am sure you would be happy to sacrifice other people's right to safe environments (for example sage schools) just so you could carry a gun?

Last, on your point on privacy, in today's world there is no such thing. You have a cellphone and on the internet? Then you have no privacy already, these companies know everything about you...so your point in that makes no sense.

Speaking of Singapore, flogging juvenile criminals who carjack and commit certain other violent crimes would be a strong deterrent that need not involve a lengthy prison sentence.

I don’t think the flogging is the deterrent. They execute drug dealers.

Do they still have drug dealers? If so, it's not a deterrent.