Looks like a new Gaza war has started

[Anonymous]

Footage of what's going on.

https://old.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/

[Anonymous]

Heartbreaking segment on cnn moments ago: a young Israeli father talking about his wife, two young daughters (5 and 3), and MIL who were kidnapped by Hamas.

They played video footage of them being carted away.

Indefensible.

Occupation doesn’t warrant kidnapping women and children.

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Anonymous wrote:Heartbreaking segment on cnn moments ago: a young Israeli father talking about his wife, two young daughters (5 and 3), and MIL who were kidnapped by Hamas.

They played video footage of them being carted away.

Indefensible.

Occupation doesn’t warrant kidnapping women and children.

Oh, and the kidnappers were careful to cover the woman’s hair before carting her away…because…ya know…religion.

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Anonymous wrote:Leon Panetta on cnn just now said over-reliance on technology intelligence allowed Hamas to avoid detection. The intelligence system in Israel failed, and human intelligence is needed.

No question that Israel will take action, particularly given the hostages taken. This will be a prolonged war.

Re: US role - our special relationship will likely prompt intelligence and military support. It will be a complicated effort.

Re: history - going back to 1948, we’ve had 7 decades of war and failed efforts for peace. This last year brought increased tension. Hamas took a dramatic step nobody saw coming. It’s a wake up call to hamas as well as Iran, hezbollah, etc.

Leon Panetta? He hasn't been in the government in 10 years. And gee whiz, I wonder why Israel doesn't just send a bunch of agents into Gaza. I can't imagine why that sort of thing would be difficult. And yeah, it's pretty obvious that this was an intelligence failure.

If Panetta actually used the term special relationship then he ought to hang it up. Despite cooperation on defense and intelligence, there's only one of those and it's not with Israel.

Yes, you are right, PP.

You obviously know more than Leon Panetta. Thank goodness we have you to weigh in.

Leon Panetta is a yes man, dumbass.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion about Panetta.

But it’s hilarious that a random guy thinks he knows more about anything related to Israel than Leon given his decades of service and access to intel during complicated periods in history. I mean, as if.

Your over-abundance of confidence is cute.

First, I'm a woman. So your assumptions are, what is it you said? Oh, cute.

Second, the bolded is the point - Panetta hasn't been in service for 10 years and his access to intel from a decade or more ago means that he had access to it a decade ago. Not today. His historical opinion is interesting and valuable, but the fact that he's on CNN and not at work today means he doesn't have much, if any, insight into the current inner workings of Mossad or our own intelligence agencies.

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Anonymous wrote:Heartbreaking segment on cnn moments ago: a young Israeli father talking about his wife, two young daughters (5 and 3), and MIL who were kidnapped by Hamas.

They played video footage of them being carted away.

Indefensible.

Occupation doesn’t warrant kidnapping women and children.

You’re not a civilian if you chose to live in occupied territories.

[Anonymous]

DSA NYC is having a pro Palestine rally tomorrow https://x.com/nycdsa/status/1710778425303081288?s=46&t=Rw_jX1uyupQwvEwsjuQulQ

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Anonymous wrote:Heartbreaking segment on cnn moments ago: a young Israeli father talking about his wife, two young daughters (5 and 3), and MIL who were kidnapped by Hamas.

They played video footage of them being carted away.

Indefensible.

Occupation doesn’t warrant kidnapping women and children.

You’re not a civilian if you chose to live in occupied territories.

so you think Israel 67 borders is occupied

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Anonymous wrote:Heartbreaking segment on cnn moments ago: a young Israeli father talking about his wife, two young daughters (5 and 3), and MIL who were kidnapped by Hamas.

They played video footage of them being carted away.

Indefensible.

Occupation doesn’t warrant kidnapping women and children.

You’re not a civilian if you chose to live in occupied territories.

Yeah. Those little kids voted with their feet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To be clear, Israeli settlers should be lynched and dragged through the streets. When israel decides to end its illegal occupation and colonial project then Israelis will have a legitimate right to defend themselves.

I hope someone chops off your head.

[Anonymous]

Why the MASSIVE attack on Israel? Why now?

1. Saudi Arabia's greatest threat is Iran.
2. Iran is on the brink of having nuclear weapons for mass destruction.
3. Saudis want their own bomb to counter Iran.
4. They can’t build one without the US approval.
5. US will only approve it if they make peace with Israel and start being more cooperative with oil prices via OPEC.
6. Saudis have NO issues with Israel except the virtue signalling, so the a peace deal totally makes sense.
7. A peace deal with Saudi and Israel is almost done.
8. If there is a Israeli Saudi peace deal Palestinians and Iran will be big losers.
9. Palestinians with the encouragement and support of Iran, start a massive attack on Israel.
10. The purpose is to provoke a harsh response from Israel.
11. Once Israel responds and death toll on Palestinian side goes through the roof the media will scream “genocide” and...
12. That's how you derail a peace deal between Israel and Saudi.

To the world watching: If you remain silent when half of Israel comes under massive rocket bombardment from Gaza, then shut the hell up when Israel inevitably defends herself and her citizens.

What to expect: Massive attack on Israel which the media won't cover. Media will cover only Israelis killing terrorists. Don't be fooled. Now you've been informed.

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Anonymous wrote:I see we are still waiting for the Hamas supporters in this thread to find one of the many thousands of videos they claim exist of Israelis dragging the naked desecrated corpse of a young Palestinian woman through the streets while other Israelis cheer and spit on the body. Still waiting, I guess.

There are tens of thousands of videos of Palestinian children killed and maimed. Too many to count at this point. I guess we’ll just hear “Hamas started it” as Israel mows the grass.

Right. So find a video of Israelis doing the same thing as what today’s videos show. Apparently there are thousands of similar videos, according to you.

Look, this should be easy based on what you and other Hamas supporters in this thread claim. Unless, of course, you’re just lying.

Prove to me you are right. It should be easy for you to find a similar video of Israelis desecrating the naked corpse of a young Palestinian woman while other Israeli onlookers cheer on. You keep telling me thousands of these videos exist. So produce just one of them.

+1. Are there videos of collateral damage to civilians from Israeli attacks? Sure. I'm you can point to those. But I haven't once ever seen barbarism on display from the Israelis like you've seen in the last 24 hours by the Gazans. Feel free to correct us though if there are.

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There are many videos of the horrific results of rocket attacks with both Israeli and Palestinian children as innocent victims.

But I’ve never seen a video of Israelis acting with the level of barbarism and monstrosity as the Palestinians in today’s videos. I’ll never get what I saw out of my head, and I wish I could.

I have been a critic of Israel in the past, but this is far beyond anything I’ve ever seen from Israel before.

+1.

So far today, more than 250 Israelis have been killed and another 1400 injured. An untold amount of people - including many women - have been kidnapped and taken hostage by Palestinians. Anyone that saw the videos today of Palestinians desecrating and abusing the naked body of a dead Israeli women will be understandably worried about the fate of those hostages. They are likely to be tortured. Palestinians displayed a venal cruelty that is not often seen in the modern era. Those images will not be forgotten.

What Palestinians did today was to effectively commit national suicide. They will never have a viable, independent country. They are terrorists. When Gaza is destroyed in the months ahead, no one will lament their fate. They chose Hamas. They chose barbarity. They chose stupidity. And they will reap what they sowed. Idiots.

I’ve watched the video a few times trying to figure out whether it was the German tourist or not. I don’t know whether it was, but it doesn’t matter. It’s a ghastly scene that constitutes both a war crime and an exhibition of the basest forms of human behavior.

All of that said, I’m going to stop you when you use it as a rallying cry for genocide.

Countless bodies - civilian and belligerent - were desecrated by our forces and those of our allies in Afghanistan and Iraq. And then some. If you haven’t heard of the Mahmudiyah Incident, have a read: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_rape_and_killings. Even for all out war, that’s some extremely evil sht. And it was all done by a US Army soldiers.

As horrific as that incident, I think you and I are grateful that no one is calling for the indiscriminate slaughter of Americans on account of the heinous actions of five soldiers. Or for those of William Laws Calley Jr. at My Lai and so on and so on.

Thugs that celebrate killing and the desecration of bodies deserve nothing less than that, but they are not all Gazans let alone all Palestinians.

I don’t remember celebrations by Americans all over the nation re: Mahmudiya rape and killings.

Americans are not living under brutal military occupation, desperate for a win at any cost to avenge their dispossession, Israeli apartheid, and death and disfigurement of generations of youth.

Desperation is ugly. I blame the people who made all Palestinian civilians this desperate as much as I blame the madmen who carried out these attacks.

We have to internalize our role in this situation.

You are disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.

I think israeli government actions are disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.

This is a kidnapped Israeli child in Gaza being passed around for Palestinian kids to bully.

The adults responsible deserve what's coming for them.

https://t.co/poikILZ3uh

Avi Yemini

https://twitter.com/OzraeliAvi/status/1710778299264487877

And they videotaped him being sexually assaulted by teens. I thought Hamas murdered anyone suspected of having anal sex, but rape is fine?

Oh my god. I am sickened by this. The poor innocent children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Heartbreaking segment on cnn moments ago: a young Israeli father talking about his wife, two young daughters (5 and 3), and MIL who were kidnapped by Hamas.

They played video footage of them being carted away.

Indefensible.

Occupation doesn’t warrant kidnapping women and children.

You’re not a civilian if you chose to live in occupied territories.

You are defending child gang rape. Your version of Islam is not Islam.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DSA NYC is having a pro Palestine rally tomorrow https://x.com/nycdsa/status/1710778425303081288?s=46&t=Rw_jX1uyupQwvEwsjuQulQ

Lol. These folks are caricatures/real-life cartoons of poly-sci 101 freshmen.

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Anonymous wrote:Heartbreaking segment on cnn moments ago: a young Israeli father talking about his wife, two young daughters (5 and 3), and MIL who were kidnapped by Hamas.

They played video footage of them being carted away.

Indefensible.

Occupation doesn’t warrant kidnapping women and children.

You’re not a civilian if you chose to live in occupied territories.

so you think Israel 67 borders is occupied

Was the party held within 67 borders?

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Anonymous wrote:I see we are still waiting for the Hamas supporters in this thread to find one of the many thousands of videos they claim exist of Israelis dragging the naked desecrated corpse of a young Palestinian woman through the streets while other Israelis cheer and spit on the body. Still waiting, I guess.

There are tens of thousands of videos of Palestinian children killed and maimed. Too many to count at this point. I guess we’ll just hear “Hamas started it” as Israel mows the grass.

Right. So find a video of Israelis doing the same thing as what today’s videos show. Apparently there are thousands of similar videos, according to you.

Look, this should be easy based on what you and other Hamas supporters in this thread claim. Unless, of course, you’re just lying.

Prove to me you are right. It should be easy for you to find a similar video of Israelis desecrating the naked corpse of a young Palestinian woman while other Israeli onlookers cheer on. You keep telling me thousands of these videos exist. So produce just one of them.

+1. Are there videos of collateral damage to civilians from Israeli attacks? Sure. I'm you can point to those. But I haven't once ever seen barbarism on display from the Israelis like you've seen in the last 24 hours by the Gazans. Feel free to correct us though if there are.

+1

There are many videos of the horrific results of rocket attacks with both Israeli and Palestinian children as innocent victims.

But I’ve never seen a video of Israelis acting with the level of barbarism and monstrosity as the Palestinians in today’s videos. I’ll never get what I saw out of my head, and I wish I could.

I have been a critic of Israel in the past, but this is far beyond anything I’ve ever seen from Israel before.

+1.

So far today, more than 250 Israelis have been killed and another 1400 injured. An untold amount of people - including many women - have been kidnapped and taken hostage by Palestinians. Anyone that saw the videos today of Palestinians desecrating and abusing the naked body of a dead Israeli women will be understandably worried about the fate of those hostages. They are likely to be tortured. Palestinians displayed a venal cruelty that is not often seen in the modern era. Those images will not be forgotten.

What Palestinians did today was to effectively commit national suicide. They will never have a viable, independent country. They are terrorists. When Gaza is destroyed in the months ahead, no one will lament their fate. They chose Hamas. They chose barbarity. They chose stupidity. And they will reap what they sowed. Idiots.

I’ve watched the video a few times trying to figure out whether it was the German tourist or not. I don’t know whether it was, but it doesn’t matter. It’s a ghastly scene that constitutes both a war crime and an exhibition of the basest forms of human behavior.

All of that said, I’m going to stop you when you use it as a rallying cry for genocide.

Countless bodies - civilian and belligerent - were desecrated by our forces and those of our allies in Afghanistan and Iraq. And then some. If you haven’t heard of the Mahmudiyah Incident, have a read: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_rape_and_killings. Even for all out war, that’s some extremely evil sht. And it was all done by a US Army soldiers.

As horrific as that incident, I think you and I are grateful that no one is calling for the indiscriminate slaughter of Americans on account of the heinous actions of five soldiers. Or for those of William Laws Calley Jr. at My Lai and so on and so on.

Thugs that celebrate killing and the desecration of bodies deserve nothing less than that, but they are not all Gazans let alone all Palestinians.

I don’t remember celebrations by Americans all over the nation re: Mahmudiya rape and killings.

Americans are not living under brutal military occupation, desperate for a win at any cost to avenge their dispossession, Israeli apartheid, and death and disfigurement of generations of youth.

Desperation is ugly. I blame the people who made all Palestinian civilians this desperate as much as I blame the madmen who carried out these attacks.

We have to internalize our role in this situation.

You are disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.

I think israeli government actions are disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.

This is a kidnapped Israeli child in Gaza being passed around for Palestinian kids to bully.

The adults responsible deserve what's coming for them.

https://t.co/poikILZ3uh

Avi Yemini

https://twitter.com/OzraeliAvi/status/1710778299264487877

And they videotaped him being sexually assaulted by teens. I thought Hamas murdered anyone suspected of having anal sex, but rape is fine?

Barbaric animals…