No. Read what Northam said. He is basically saying that the baby is messed up somehow and they put it out of its misery. That is euthanasia and it’s illegal. So he calls abortion. |
Oh really? I’m sorry. What is your word for it? |
Your ignorance is showing. Even with Roe v. Wade, there was only 6 states + DC without any limits on abortion. However, even without any limitations, providers and facilities had their own regulations on term limits and for almost all I am aware of, it was 24 weeks. Insurance, if utilized, also played a factor (out-patient/in-patient) on term limits. Of the 629,898 abortions reported in 2019, 93% (or 585,805) happened before week 13. Only 6% occurred between weeks 14 to 20 (or 37,794). Only 1% occurred after week 21 (or 6,299) and 99% of those were because of mortal fetal abnormalities or high risk of maternal mortality (or 6,236). So roughly only 63 of the total abortions in the reporting year of 2019 happened after week 21 and for a reason other than maternal mortality or fetal abnormality. (https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/data_stats/index.htm) Sixty-three. That's it. I would love to see the weekly breakdown of these 63 abortions to see how many happened during weeks 21-24 vs after week 24. Because week 24 is the latest nearly all providers would permit an abortion without an underlying medical reason, even in cases of incest or rape in minors who may have hid their pregnancies from their parents. I'm not the PP, but to answer your question - yes, I am fine with a woman having an abortion at 8.5 weeks if a) she lives in a state that allows it & that is her choice or b) she choose to abort to save her life or to abort to save the fetus of suffering after birth in the case of fatal fetal abnormalities. |
| Voted for Segura and Harnisch. Voted red for school board, as well. |
| No one reading this forum is changing their mind on abortion due to this stupid bickering. The swing voters are not on this thread. |
Let's see..... 15 weeks is what..... 3 1/2 months, right?
https://www.npr.org/2023/04/26/1171863775/poll-americans-want-abortion-restrictions-but-not-as-far-as-red-states-are-going |
Republicans are actively trying to take away my basic rights. I’m not going to stop talking about it until they stop trying. |
You are so full of it. What “basic right” are you talking about? (And before you answer, you do realize there is no “right” to an abortion, don’t you?) |
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Virginians don’t want more restrictions.
“ According to the Wason Center poll, 49% of likely voters want to keep the abortion law on the books and 23% want fewer restrictions on the procedure. Twenty-four percent of those surveyed said they want Virginia to impose more restrictions. “ |
Here’s from the DuPont clinic in DC: “ABORTION AFTER 26 WEEKS IN WASHINGTON, D.C. ABORTION CARE AFTER 26 WEEKS This three-day abortion procedure is called the DuPont Induction-Evacuation. The first day is a pre-operative appointment which will involve a brief ultrasound and medications to help ease the process over the next two days. When you return on the second day, your provider will perform a brief pelvic exam to place Dilapan to help your cervix open slowly overnight. When you return on the third day, you will receive IV medications to make you feel very comfortable and relaxed, and to control pain. Once you are comfortable and your cervix is dilated, the physician will complete the abortion procedure, which takes about 15 minutes or less. While the procedure itself is short, the dilation process can take anywhere from one hour to several hours, which you will spend in your private room with your partner, family, or friends. After the procedure, you will return to recover in the privacy and comfort of your own patient room, where your partner, family, or friends can be with you. Typically, the anesthesia medications wear off within two hours and you may return home or to their hotel. In some cases, depending on medical history, we may be able to perform the procedure in 2 days, but this is not common. Abortions after 26 weeks are often inaccurately referred to as “late-term abortion” which is a corruption of “late trimester abortion” or “later abortion”. “Late-term abortion” is commonly used in the media but does not refer to a specific procedure. The first day is a pre-operative appointment. You will meet your Patient Care Guide, a specialist in patient support who will help you understand what to expect both during and after your abortion procedure, and support you through each step in the process. You will then have as much time as you’d like to meet with a nurse and physician. Both will review the procedure process and answer all of your questions. Next, the physician will do a brief ultrasound and administer medications to help ease the process over the next two days. When you return on the second day, your provider will perform a brief pelvic exam to place Dilapan to help your cervix open slowly overnight. Dilapan is a sterile synthetic polymer similar to laminaria. We will give you medication beforehand, and we take several additional steps to make sure that you are comfortable through the exam. You may have light to mild cramping overnight. We will provide you with several pain medications to keep you comfortable and to minimize the cramping. When you return on the third day, you will receive IV medications to make you feel very comfortable and relaxed, and to control pain. Once you are comfortable and your cervix is dilated, the physician will complete the abortion procedure, which takes about 15 minutes or less. While the procedure itself is short, the dilation process can take anywhere from one hour to several hours, which you will spend in your private room with your partner, family, or friends. After the procedure, you will return to recover in the privacy and comfort of your own patient room, where your partner, family, or friends can be with you. Typically, the anesthesia medications wear off within two hours and you may return home or to their hotel. On the third day, a short induction period is followed by evacuation of the uterus under ultrasound guidance. In some cases, depending on medical history, we may be able to perform the procedure in 2 days, but this is not common.“ |
So from Northam's lips to God's ear. If the best evidence you have is that one interview with Northam from year's ago, you have zero. It isn't happening. Take your carpet bagger BS agenda somewhere else. Virginians do not want this. |
Right. This is not what PP's were describing. |
| Wrong, abortion in the District of Columbia is legal at all stages of pregnancy. |
We are discussing the charming posters several pages back who support abortion with no limits. You are refusing to acknowledge that they support it all the way up until birth. NY state is one example of a place that allows it beyond 15 weeks |
If this is true I am truly sickened about my hometown. Did not know this. |