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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You people really do think it’s all about loose chicks getting abortion as birth control, don’t you?

You are so beyond wrong.[/quote]
Ah… you aren’t supposed to say the quiet part out loud! Hear that ladies? We’re all just a bunch of loose chicks. Yep, my much wanted baby who we found out had her organs going on the outside was because I’m a whore.

VOTE, VOLUNTEER, DONATE for Democrats.[/quote]

Currently, Virginia’s abortion limit is at 26 weeks’ 6 days’ gestation.  That limit would address your devastating diagnosis.  I don’t see Rs succeeding in pushing back even if they had both upper and lower GA.  
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They have already proposed THREE abortion ban bills this year. They will do it if they hold the GA. 
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Did they succeed, though?  Nope,[/quote]

And this is why we need Democrats to hold the majority in at least one chamber. If GOP has trifecta, they will pass the most extreme bills. [b]For all you folks claiming to want MODERATES, electing Democrats will serve as a check on GOP extremism.[/b] VA will still have Youngkin so you don't have to worry about the WOKE AGENDA.[/quote]

Yes, how "moderate" are they. 
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They will prevent the religious extremists from banning/restricting abortion. [/quote]

+1. Please vote D for state senate and delegate to keep abortion legal in the Commonwealth. If you want to vote R for all the local stuff, have at it. [/quote]

Explain how a 15 week limit is a "ban?"
15 weeks is what most of the developed nations in the world recognize.  [/quote]

You need an explanation of your use of the word “limit?”

No limits. We won’t stand for it. [/quote]

No limits. [b]8.5 months is fine with you? [/b]

Wow. Sick to the core. [/quote]

Your ignorance is showing. Even with Roe v. Wade, there was only 6 states + DC without any limits on abortion. However, even without any limitations, providers and facilities had their own regulations on term limits and for almost all I am aware of, it was 24 weeks. Insurance, if utilized, also played a factor (out-patient/in-patient) on term limits.

Of the 629,898 abortions reported in 2019, 93% (or 585,805) happened before week 13. Only 6% occurred between weeks 14 to 20 (or 37,794). Only 1% occurred after week 21 (or 6,299) and 99% of those were because of mortal fetal abnormalities or high risk of maternal mortality (or 6,236). So roughly only 63 of the total abortions in the reporting year of 2019 happened after week 21 and for a reason other than maternal mortality or fetal abnormality.  (https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/data_stats/index.htm)

Sixty-three. That's it. I would love to see the weekly breakdown of these 63 abortions to see how many happened during weeks 21-24 vs after week 24. Because week 24 is the latest nearly all providers would permit an abortion without an underlying medical reason, even in cases of incest or rape in minors who may have hid their pregnancies from their parents.

I'm not the PP, but to answer your question - yes, I am fine with a woman having an abortion at 8.5 weeks if a) she lives in a state that allows it & that is her choice or b) she choose to abort to save her life or to abort to save the fetus of suffering after birth in the case of fatal fetal abnormalities.

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8.5 MONTHS. MONTHS. Not weeks. That’s what the “no limits” ghouls here are advocating for. [/quote]

I'm curious how you think this procedure works. Please include the steps, with supporting links. Because even when a fetus dies on its own after 20 weeks, the only way out for the deceased baby is induction of labor or c-section. Ask me how I know. [/quote]

If you really want to know the information is available. Google “partial birth abortion.” Suffice it here to say that it involves an induction and a tool that looks like a scissors, administered when the head is out of the birth canal, but not the rest of the body.

Are you sick to your stomach yet?[/quote]

I can't find links on any reputable sites. Do you know any?[/quote]

Here’s from the DuPont clinic in DC:

“ABORTION
AFTER 26 WEEKS IN WASHINGTON, D.C.
ABORTION CARE AFTER 26 WEEKS

This three-day abortion procedure is called the DuPont Induction-Evacuation. The first day is a pre-operative appointment which will involve a brief ultrasound and medications to help ease the process over the next two days. When you return on the second day, your provider will perform a brief pelvic exam to place Dilapan to help your cervix open slowly overnight. When you return on the third day, you will receive IV medications to make you feel very comfortable and relaxed, and to control pain. Once you are comfortable and your cervix is dilated, the physician will complete the abortion procedure, which takes about 15 minutes or less. While the procedure itself is short, the dilation process can take anywhere from one hour to several hours, which you will spend in your private room with your partner, family, or friends. After the procedure, you will return to recover in the privacy and comfort of your own patient room, where your partner, family, or friends can be with you. Typically, the anesthesia medications wear off within two hours and you may return home or to their hotel.
 
In some cases, depending on medical history, we may be able to perform the procedure in 2 days, but this is not common. Abortions after 26 weeks are often inaccurately referred to as “late-term abortion” which is a corruption of “late trimester abortion” or “later abortion”. “Late-term abortion” is commonly used in the media but does not refer to a specific procedure.
 
The first day is a pre-operative appointment. You will meet your Patient Care Guide, a specialist in patient support who will help you understand what to expect both during and after your abortion procedure, and support you through each step in the process. You will then have as much time as you’d like to meet with a nurse and physician. Both will review the procedure process and answer all of your questions. Next, the physician will do a brief ultrasound and administer medications to help ease the process over the next two days.
 
When you return on the second day, your provider will perform a brief pelvic exam to place Dilapan to help your cervix open slowly overnight. Dilapan is a sterile synthetic polymer similar to laminaria. We will give you medication beforehand, and we take several additional steps to make sure that you are comfortable through the exam. You may have light to mild cramping overnight. We will provide you with several pain medications to keep you comfortable and to minimize the cramping.
 
When you return on the third day, you will receive IV medications to make you feel very comfortable and relaxed, and to control pain. Once you are comfortable and your cervix is dilated, the physician will complete the abortion procedure, which takes about 15 minutes or less. While the procedure itself is short, the dilation process can take anywhere from one hour to several hours, which you will spend in your private room with your partner, family, or friends. After the procedure, you will return to recover in the privacy and comfort of your own patient room, where your partner, family, or friends can be with you. Typically, the anesthesia medications wear off within two hours and you may return home or to their hotel.
 
On the third day, a short induction period is followed by evacuation of the uterus under ultrasound guidance. In some cases, depending on medical history, we may be able to perform the procedure in 2 days, but this is not common.“[/quote]

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