Arl Dems Caucus Endorsement - School Board - In the Candidates' Words

[Anonymous]

Going back to the point of this thread. I found Miranda's AEA questionnaire. Looking for Angelo's now as well. https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6041ba6620a81d18855bdb62/t/64512a1e8ae244747e40c71a/1683040798467/AEA-PAC+SB+Questionnaire+2023.pdf

[Anonymous]

I can't find Angelo's responses, someone please add here if you can find. For now, here is the arlnow article about AEA endorsement of Angelo plus Board Member Matt de Ferranti and the vote of Board Vice-Chair Libby Garvey for Miranda. https://www.arlnow.com/2023/05/08/school-board-candidates-nab-more-endorsements-as-process-to-select-the-next-democratic-endorsee-kicks-off/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So here is Turner's answer on this question, which strikes me as a reasonable one:

As a parent of an elementary student, I would like to know if you support standards-based grading. For my high school students, I would also like to know whether you support the recently adopted homework policy stating high school students cannot be given more than “a maximum of a total of 60 minutes per week per course.”

Turner: Certainly I support grading that is based on standards. However, as a parent of two APS students at a school that has adopted standards-based grading, I have concerns with the practice as it’s currently being implemented. First, the terminology is confusing and a student’s level is not easily intuited from the scale. “Approaching mastery,” for example, sounds in some ways like a higher ranking than “meets standard,” but it isn’t. “Insufficient evidence” makes it sound simply like a student hasn’t yet done any work that can be evaluated, but apparently it’s meant to be the lowest end of a four-tier scale. While there is no magic to a traditional “A through E” letter-grade scale, or a numeric scale, it is important that parents and students be able to derive some meaning from their grade, and SBG seems to lack that quality. In addition, while this is a problem for many parents, I have particularly heard some parents in the Hispanic community express confusion and concern that they are not able to tell how their children are doing in school. This is a barrier to full engagement with the education of one’s child, and seemingly a needless one.

Second, the scale lacks an option to reflect that a student may be exceeding whatever standard applies to a particular skill. It’s just as important for parents to understand areas in which their student excels as it is areas where their student may struggle, in order to appreciate a child’s talents and encourage them to thrive.

Dr. Durán spoke on this topic last night at Civic Federation. I still am confused on the benefits but hope we hear more when the Board votes on the new PIP. https://fb.watch/krzg7a4gp_/

[Anonymous]

AGIA responses are on their facebook page (I don't see a website listed for them with more information/background on this group so if someone has the website for those without a facebook account please share): https://www.facebook.com/AGIA.arlingtonva/

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Anonymous wrote:Been telling neighbors about the kid and they can’t believe he’s 22. Maybe a couple of them make it out to vote.

So where do the candidates stand on standards based grading?

APE asked about it in the candidate questionnaire: https://www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org/school-board-2023. Only Miranda answered. Looks like Angelo didn't bother responding at all. Sounds par for the course. He's a no show at the advisory committee meetings, a no show at at least two forums, no show at his own election, and not bothering to engage with a community group. Whether you like APE or not, not responding is not the action of a community leader who wants to work with everyone.

Maybe that's because there is no separation between APE and MT's campaign? He might as well stop by the Turner family reunion to campaign. And APE has constantly criticized APS for standards-based grading. Just like the missing middle people, they always claim to be opposed to "the process" when anyone proposes something progressive. Frankly, I think it's principled to not respond to APE's questionnaire. I don't want a community leader that touches such a divisive group even with a 10-foot pole.

Agreed. APE is a LOBBYING GROUP. They have been trying to get Miranda elected for years. They may as well be her personal PAC. Angelo is smart to not answer their little questionnaire. He answered the AGIA questionnaire and did a dang good job with it too.

People keep putting him down for his age but he's proving himself to be savvy.

APE derangement runs deep. What is wrong with their "little" questionnaire?

From Miranda's page, it looks like they asked about 1) Remedying subsitute (Gasp!); 2) Standards-based grading (pearl clutch); 3) Reducing class sizes (Pass the smelling salts!); 4) Learning Loss and Achievement gaps (Dastardly!) 5) device usage at schools (villians!)

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6041ba6620a81d18855bdb62/t/64512b38322df0273fd9abe7/1683041080616/APE+Miranda+Turner+Responses+April+2023.docx.pdf

It's 5 questions. Written responses. Seems like a fair arrangement so that there was an equal playing field. He could have asked Reid to do his homework for him if he was too busy finishing his finals.

He could have but he didn't want to play APE's game. Good for him. APE isn't a legit org. They're a lobbying group, and right now they exist to elect Miranda.

He answered the AGIA questions so it's not like he's against answering questions from a LEGIT group.

I also heard from ACDC peeps that APE asked for a debate and AC turned them DOWN. Never got confirmation though, so I don't know if APE ever wanted a debate and didn't get it, or if it's just a rumor. I agree PP, I'd say it's a power move and APE just doesn't like when they're spurned.

That APE questionnaire was a "power move?" And just what "power" do you think it has? They put out something to address the issues they want addressed. The opponent chose not to respond - when responding would have given him a prime opportunity to distinguish himself/his views on the very specific topics everyone is so critical of APE for.

I'm pretty sure, actually, that APE put it out on its FB page for people to ask questions they wanted asked of the candidates. They also survey members to select priorities. So it's a pretty democratic process.

As for astroturfing, if you watch what they are doing, they actually ARE advocating for more transparency, etc. They pushed for the dashboard. They are asking APS to show more data. This is a real thing the org does.

Thanks, Jeff, for deleting the other link and explaining why. I clicked on it, and that was some crazy conspiracy stuff, that, again, mostly boiled down to the fact that Turner has friends who are Republicans.

DP. You’re minimizing her relationships. She partnered with them for years. One works at a Koch think tank. And you’re overlooking the bullying/vitriol that she found acceptable.

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Anonymous wrote:Been telling neighbors about the kid and they can’t believe he’s 22. Maybe a couple of them make it out to vote.

So where do the candidates stand on standards based grading?

APE asked about it in the candidate questionnaire: https://www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org/school-board-2023. Only Miranda answered. Looks like Angelo didn't bother responding at all. Sounds par for the course. He's a no show at the advisory committee meetings, a no show at at least two forums, no show at his own election, and not bothering to engage with a community group. Whether you like APE or not, not responding is not the action of a community leader who wants to work with everyone.

Maybe that's because there is no separation between APE and MT's campaign? He might as well stop by the Turner family reunion to campaign. And APE has constantly criticized APS for standards-based grading. Just like the missing middle people, they always claim to be opposed to "the process" when anyone proposes something progressive. Frankly, I think it's principled to not respond to APE's questionnaire. I don't want a community leader that touches such a divisive group even with a 10-foot pole.

Agreed. APE is a LOBBYING GROUP. They have been trying to get Miranda elected for years. They may as well be her personal PAC. Angelo is smart to not answer their little questionnaire. He answered the AGIA questionnaire and did a dang good job with it too.

People keep putting him down for his age but he's proving himself to be savvy.

APE derangement runs deep. What is wrong with their "little" questionnaire?

From Miranda's page, it looks like they asked about 1) Remedying subsitute (Gasp!); 2) Standards-based grading (pearl clutch); 3) Reducing class sizes (Pass the smelling salts!); 4) Learning Loss and Achievement gaps (Dastardly!) 5) device usage at schools (villians!)

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6041ba6620a81d18855bdb62/t/64512b38322df0273fd9abe7/1683041080616/APE+Miranda+Turner+Responses+April+2023.docx.pdf

It's 5 questions. Written responses. Seems like a fair arrangement so that there was an equal playing field. He could have asked Reid to do his homework for him if he was too busy finishing his finals.

He could have but he didn't want to play APE's game. Good for him. APE isn't a legit org. They're a lobbying group, and right now they exist to elect Miranda.

He answered the AGIA questions so it's not like he's against answering questions from a LEGIT group.

omg I swear you sound like the exact person who would be engaging g in the kind of FB groups and making the same disgusting comments as these people.I wouldn’t even be surprised if you were actually part of a group just like this in Arlington. If Angelo has you a supporter he is exactly the kind of person I don’t want bc I don’t want him bringing crazy people like you along with him

https://wjla.com/news/local/loudoun-love-warriors-facebook-group-threats-buta-biberaj-juli-briskman-ian-serotkin-brenda-sheridan-atoosa-reaser-erika-ogedegbe-craig-buckley-phyllis-randall-puja-khanna-anne-donohuemark-winn-county-school-board-parents#

And here comes the APE/Miranda attack brigade again. Triggered because someone truthfully pointed out that APE is a lobbying group, and that Angelo answered the AGIA questions but not APE's.

Uh oh. Are Miranda’s angry dad bros going to scream at everyone again? Take cover.

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Anonymous wrote:Been telling neighbors about the kid and they can’t believe he’s 22. Maybe a couple of them make it out to vote.

So where do the candidates stand on standards based grading?

APE asked about it in the candidate questionnaire: https://www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org/school-board-2023. Only Miranda answered. Looks like Angelo didn't bother responding at all. Sounds par for the course. He's a no show at the advisory committee meetings, a no show at at least two forums, no show at his own election, and not bothering to engage with a community group. Whether you like APE or not, not responding is not the action of a community leader who wants to work with everyone.

Maybe that's because there is no separation between APE and MT's campaign? He might as well stop by the Turner family reunion to campaign. And APE has constantly criticized APS for standards-based grading. Just like the missing middle people, they always claim to be opposed to "the process" when anyone proposes something progressive. Frankly, I think it's principled to not respond to APE's questionnaire. I don't want a community leader that touches such a divisive group even with a 10-foot pole.

Agreed. APE is a LOBBYING GROUP. They have been trying to get Miranda elected for years. They may as well be her personal PAC. Angelo is smart to not answer their little questionnaire. He answered the AGIA questionnaire and did a dang good job with it too.

People keep putting him down for his age but he's proving himself to be savvy.

APE derangement runs deep. What is wrong with their "little" questionnaire?

From Miranda's page, it looks like they asked about 1) Remedying subsitute (Gasp!); 2) Standards-based grading (pearl clutch); 3) Reducing class sizes (Pass the smelling salts!); 4) Learning Loss and Achievement gaps (Dastardly!) 5) device usage at schools (villians!)

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6041ba6620a81d18855bdb62/t/64512b38322df0273fd9abe7/1683041080616/APE+Miranda+Turner+Responses+April+2023.docx.pdf

It's 5 questions. Written responses. Seems like a fair arrangement so that there was an equal playing field. He could have asked Reid to do his homework for him if he was too busy finishing his finals.

He could have but he didn't want to play APE's game. Good for him. APE isn't a legit org. They're a lobbying group, and right now they exist to elect Miranda.

He answered the AGIA questions so it's not like he's against answering questions from a LEGIT group.

I also heard from ACDC peeps that APE asked for a debate and AC turned them DOWN. Never got confirmation though, so I don't know if APE ever wanted a debate and didn't get it, or if it's just a rumor. I agree PP, I'd say it's a power move and APE just doesn't like when they're spurned.

That APE questionnaire was a "power move?" And just what "power" do you think it has? They put out something to address the issues they want addressed. The opponent chose not to respond - when responding would have given him a prime opportunity to distinguish himself/his views on the very specific topics everyone is so critical of APE for.

I'm pretty sure, actually, that APE put it out on its FB page for people to ask questions they wanted asked of the candidates. They also survey members to select priorities. So it's a pretty democratic process.

As for astroturfing, if you watch what they are doing, they actually ARE advocating for more transparency, etc. They pushed for the dashboard. They are asking APS to show more data. This is a real thing the org does.

Thanks, Jeff, for deleting the other link and explaining why. I clicked on it, and that was some crazy conspiracy stuff, that, again, mostly boiled down to the fact that Turner has friends who are Republicans.

DP. You’re minimizing her relationships. She partnered with them for years. One works at a Koch think tank. And you’re overlooking the bullying/vitriol that she found acceptable.

NP. Are you saying we should never advocate alongside someone unless we agree 100%? The dude works for a GMU think tank that receives limited funding from Koch (like many other museums and other great causes). Looks like a libertarian group. Hardly worthy of the insinuations of your post.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Been telling neighbors about the kid and they can’t believe he’s 22. Maybe a couple of them make it out to vote.

So where do the candidates stand on standards based grading?

APE asked about it in the candidate questionnaire: https://www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org/school-board-2023. Only Miranda answered. Looks like Angelo didn't bother responding at all. Sounds par for the course. He's a no show at the advisory committee meetings, a no show at at least two forums, no show at his own election, and not bothering to engage with a community group. Whether you like APE or not, not responding is not the action of a community leader who wants to work with everyone.

Maybe that's because there is no separation between APE and MT's campaign? He might as well stop by the Turner family reunion to campaign. And APE has constantly criticized APS for standards-based grading. Just like the missing middle people, they always claim to be opposed to "the process" when anyone proposes something progressive. Frankly, I think it's principled to not respond to APE's questionnaire. I don't want a community leader that touches such a divisive group even with a 10-foot pole.

Agreed. APE is a LOBBYING GROUP. They have been trying to get Miranda elected for years. They may as well be her personal PAC. Angelo is smart to not answer their little questionnaire. He answered the AGIA questionnaire and did a dang good job with it too.

People keep putting him down for his age but he's proving himself to be savvy.

APE derangement runs deep. What is wrong with their "little" questionnaire?

From Miranda's page, it looks like they asked about 1) Remedying subsitute (Gasp!); 2) Standards-based grading (pearl clutch); 3) Reducing class sizes (Pass the smelling salts!); 4) Learning Loss and Achievement gaps (Dastardly!) 5) device usage at schools (villians!)

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6041ba6620a81d18855bdb62/t/64512b38322df0273fd9abe7/1683041080616/APE+Miranda+Turner+Responses+April+2023.docx.pdf

It's 5 questions. Written responses. Seems like a fair arrangement so that there was an equal playing field. He could have asked Reid to do his homework for him if he was too busy finishing his finals.

He could have but he didn't want to play APE's game. Good for him. APE isn't a legit org. They're a lobbying group, and right now they exist to elect Miranda.

He answered the AGIA questions so it's not like he's against answering questions from a LEGIT group.

omg I swear you sound like the exact person who would be engaging g in the kind of FB groups and making the same disgusting comments as these people.I wouldn’t even be surprised if you were actually part of a group just like this in Arlington. If Angelo has you a supporter he is exactly the kind of person I don’t want bc I don’t want him bringing crazy people like you along with him

https://wjla.com/news/local/loudoun-love-warriors-facebook-group-threats-buta-biberaj-juli-briskman-ian-serotkin-brenda-sheridan-atoosa-reaser-erika-ogedegbe-craig-buckley-phyllis-randall-puja-khanna-anne-donohuemark-winn-county-school-board-parents#

And here comes the APE/Miranda attack brigade again. Triggered because someone truthfully pointed out that APE is a lobbying group, and that Angelo answered the AGIA questions but not APE's.

Uh oh. Are Miranda’s angry dad bros going to scream at everyone again? Take cover.

What’s worse angry dad bros from 2 years ago when their kids were denied an education or current day psychos posting conspiracy theories about private citizens a trying to interfere in an election with misinformation? Hmmmm…..

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Anonymous wrote:Been telling neighbors about the kid and they can’t believe he’s 22. Maybe a couple of them make it out to vote.

So where do the candidates stand on standards based grading?

APE asked about it in the candidate questionnaire: https://www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org/school-board-2023. Only Miranda answered. Looks like Angelo didn't bother responding at all. Sounds par for the course. He's a no show at the advisory committee meetings, a no show at at least two forums, no show at his own election, and not bothering to engage with a community group. Whether you like APE or not, not responding is not the action of a community leader who wants to work with everyone.

Maybe that's because there is no separation between APE and MT's campaign? He might as well stop by the Turner family reunion to campaign. And APE has constantly criticized APS for standards-based grading. Just like the missing middle people, they always claim to be opposed to "the process" when anyone proposes something progressive. Frankly, I think it's principled to not respond to APE's questionnaire. I don't want a community leader that touches such a divisive group even with a 10-foot pole.

Agreed. APE is a LOBBYING GROUP. They have been trying to get Miranda elected for years. They may as well be her personal PAC. Angelo is smart to not answer their little questionnaire. He answered the AGIA questionnaire and did a dang good job with it too.

People keep putting him down for his age but he's proving himself to be savvy.

APE derangement runs deep. What is wrong with their "little" questionnaire?

From Miranda's page, it looks like they asked about 1) Remedying subsitute (Gasp!); 2) Standards-based grading (pearl clutch); 3) Reducing class sizes (Pass the smelling salts!); 4) Learning Loss and Achievement gaps (Dastardly!) 5) device usage at schools (villians!)

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6041ba6620a81d18855bdb62/t/64512b38322df0273fd9abe7/1683041080616/APE+Miranda+Turner+Responses+April+2023.docx.pdf

It's 5 questions. Written responses. Seems like a fair arrangement so that there was an equal playing field. He could have asked Reid to do his homework for him if he was too busy finishing his finals.

He could have but he didn't want to play APE's game. Good for him. APE isn't a legit org. They're a lobbying group, and right now they exist to elect Miranda.

He answered the AGIA questions so it's not like he's against answering questions from a LEGIT group.

I also heard from ACDC peeps that APE asked for a debate and AC turned them DOWN. Never got confirmation though, so I don't know if APE ever wanted a debate and didn't get it, or if it's just a rumor. I agree PP, I'd say it's a power move and APE just doesn't like when they're spurned.

That APE questionnaire was a "power move?" And just what "power" do you think it has? They put out something to address the issues they want addressed. The opponent chose not to respond - when responding would have given him a prime opportunity to distinguish himself/his views on the very specific topics everyone is so critical of APE for.

I'm pretty sure, actually, that APE put it out on its FB page for people to ask questions they wanted asked of the candidates. They also survey members to select priorities. So it's a pretty democratic process.

As for astroturfing, if you watch what they are doing, they actually ARE advocating for more transparency, etc. They pushed for the dashboard. They are asking APS to show more data. This is a real thing the org does.

Thanks, Jeff, for deleting the other link and explaining why. I clicked on it, and that was some crazy conspiracy stuff, that, again, mostly boiled down to the fact that Turner has friends who are Republicans.

DP. You’re minimizing her relationships. She partnered with them for years. One works at a Koch think tank. And you’re overlooking the bullying/vitriol that she found acceptable.

blah blah blah

We'll find out soon enough if Arlington is as concerned about a mid-level guy at GMU or think she is to answer for other's behavior. Can we retire this if she wins?

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jsteele wrote:I am not going to allow links to the Google doc to which some posters have linked. We generally do not allow anonymous criticism of non-public figures by name unless the poster also identifies themselves. The document in question mentions several non-public figures and is being circulated by someone using the pseudonym "Deep Throat". If Mr. or Ms. Throat would like to identify themselves, posters will be free to link to the document. But, short of that, I will remove any such links.

I'd encourage Mr. or Ms. Throat to identify themselves too but I think it's relevant, and I wouldn't characterize the board members of an org that is one candidate's brainchild (Miranda is literally a founder) as "non-public figures," especially when one of them is her campaign manager and they're all public tweets and quotes from APE's website. It raises some very valid character issues. I for one found it shocking. I mean I knew there were some strange bedfellows with Miranda, but it seems like her whole universe is Rs with really out-of-the-mainstream ideas.

I'd suggest a review of the matter since I feel it's more than fair game but I guess all I'll say is people can look for themselves if interested on Twitter @/protectarled but not linking anything without your say so, message received.

So shocking! You should post this to AEM under your real name. The people must know!

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Anonymous wrote:Been telling neighbors about the kid and they can’t believe he’s 22. Maybe a couple of them make it out to vote.

So where do the candidates stand on standards based grading?

APE asked about it in the candidate questionnaire: https://www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org/school-board-2023. Only Miranda answered. Looks like Angelo didn't bother responding at all. Sounds par for the course. He's a no show at the advisory committee meetings, a no show at at least two forums, no show at his own election, and not bothering to engage with a community group. Whether you like APE or not, not responding is not the action of a community leader who wants to work with everyone.

Maybe that's because there is no separation between APE and MT's campaign? He might as well stop by the Turner family reunion to campaign. And APE has constantly criticized APS for standards-based grading. Just like the missing middle people, they always claim to be opposed to "the process" when anyone proposes something progressive. Frankly, I think it's principled to not respond to APE's questionnaire. I don't want a community leader that touches such a divisive group even with a 10-foot pole.

Agreed. APE is a LOBBYING GROUP. They have been trying to get Miranda elected for years. They may as well be her personal PAC. Angelo is smart to not answer their little questionnaire. He answered the AGIA questionnaire and did a dang good job with it too.

People keep putting him down for his age but he's proving himself to be savvy.

APE derangement runs deep. What is wrong with their "little" questionnaire?

From Miranda's page, it looks like they asked about 1) Remedying subsitute (Gasp!); 2) Standards-based grading (pearl clutch); 3) Reducing class sizes (Pass the smelling salts!); 4) Learning Loss and Achievement gaps (Dastardly!) 5) device usage at schools (villians!)

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6041ba6620a81d18855bdb62/t/64512b38322df0273fd9abe7/1683041080616/APE+Miranda+Turner+Responses+April+2023.docx.pdf

It's 5 questions. Written responses. Seems like a fair arrangement so that there was an equal playing field. He could have asked Reid to do his homework for him if he was too busy finishing his finals.

He could have but he didn't want to play APE's game. Good for him. APE isn't a legit org. They're a lobbying group, and right now they exist to elect Miranda.

He answered the AGIA questions so it's not like he's against answering questions from a LEGIT group.

I also heard from ACDC peeps that APE asked for a debate and AC turned them DOWN. Never got confirmation though, so I don't know if APE ever wanted a debate and didn't get it, or if it's just a rumor. I agree PP, I'd say it's a power move and APE just doesn't like when they're spurned.

That APE questionnaire was a "power move?" And just what "power" do you think it has? They put out something to address the issues they want addressed. The opponent chose not to respond - when responding would have given him a prime opportunity to distinguish himself/his views on the very specific topics everyone is so critical of APE for.

I'm pretty sure, actually, that APE put it out on its FB page for people to ask questions they wanted asked of the candidates. They also survey members to select priorities. So it's a pretty democratic process.

As for astroturfing, if you watch what they are doing, they actually ARE advocating for more transparency, etc. They pushed for the dashboard. They are asking APS to show more data. This is a real thing the org does.

Thanks, Jeff, for deleting the other link and explaining why. I clicked on it, and that was some crazy conspiracy stuff, that, again, mostly boiled down to the fact that Turner has friends who are Republicans.

DP. You’re minimizing her relationships. She partnered with them for years. One works at a Koch think tank. And you’re overlooking the bullying/vitriol that she found acceptable.

blah blah blah

We'll find out soon enough if Arlington is as concerned about a mid-level guy at GMU or think she is to answer for other's behavior. Can we retire this if she wins?

No, she has demonstrated poor judgment and wasn’t supportive of the APS community. I’m not going to pretend like that didn’t happen because she got very lucky this election.

She wouldn’t have won in most other scenarios.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Been telling neighbors about the kid and they can’t believe he’s 22. Maybe a couple of them make it out to vote.

So where do the candidates stand on standards based grading?

APE asked about it in the candidate questionnaire: https://www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org/school-board-2023. Only Miranda answered. Looks like Angelo didn't bother responding at all. Sounds par for the course. He's a no show at the advisory committee meetings, a no show at at least two forums, no show at his own election, and not bothering to engage with a community group. Whether you like APE or not, not responding is not the action of a community leader who wants to work with everyone.

Maybe that's because there is no separation between APE and MT's campaign? He might as well stop by the Turner family reunion to campaign. And APE has constantly criticized APS for standards-based grading. Just like the missing middle people, they always claim to be opposed to "the process" when anyone proposes something progressive. Frankly, I think it's principled to not respond to APE's questionnaire. I don't want a community leader that touches such a divisive group even with a 10-foot pole.

Agreed. APE is a LOBBYING GROUP. They have been trying to get Miranda elected for years. They may as well be her personal PAC. Angelo is smart to not answer their little questionnaire. He answered the AGIA questionnaire and did a dang good job with it too.

People keep putting him down for his age but he's proving himself to be savvy.

APE derangement runs deep. What is wrong with their "little" questionnaire?

From Miranda's page, it looks like they asked about 1) Remedying subsitute (Gasp!); 2) Standards-based grading (pearl clutch); 3) Reducing class sizes (Pass the smelling salts!); 4) Learning Loss and Achievement gaps (Dastardly!) 5) device usage at schools (villians!)

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6041ba6620a81d18855bdb62/t/64512b38322df0273fd9abe7/1683041080616/APE+Miranda+Turner+Responses+April+2023.docx.pdf

It's 5 questions. Written responses. Seems like a fair arrangement so that there was an equal playing field. He could have asked Reid to do his homework for him if he was too busy finishing his finals.

He could have but he didn't want to play APE's game. Good for him. APE isn't a legit org. They're a lobbying group, and right now they exist to elect Miranda.

He answered the AGIA questions so it's not like he's against answering questions from a LEGIT group.

omg I swear you sound like the exact person who would be engaging g in the kind of FB groups and making the same disgusting comments as these people.I wouldn’t even be surprised if you were actually part of a group just like this in Arlington. If Angelo has you a supporter he is exactly the kind of person I don’t want bc I don’t want him bringing crazy people like you along with him

https://wjla.com/news/local/loudoun-love-warriors-facebook-group-threats-buta-biberaj-juli-briskman-ian-serotkin-brenda-sheridan-atoosa-reaser-erika-ogedegbe-craig-buckley-phyllis-randall-puja-khanna-anne-donohuemark-winn-county-school-board-parents#

And here comes the APE/Miranda attack brigade again. Triggered because someone truthfully pointed out that APE is a lobbying group, and that Angelo answered the AGIA questions but not APE's.

Uh oh. Are Miranda’s angry dad bros going to scream at everyone again? Take cover.

What’s worse angry dad bros from 2 years ago when their kids were denied an education or current day psychos posting conspiracy theories about private citizens a trying to interfere in an election with misinformation? Hmmmm…..

Uh oh. Are you getting triggered? Don’t hurt anyone.

No conspiracy theories. Just facts.

Miranda partnered with aggressive angry bro dads and Republicans, including Koch employee. She stood by as they trashed teachers, staff, and other parents. Her choice. They are still part of her campaign today. Facts.

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So where do the candidates stand on standards based grading?

APE asked about it in the candidate questionnaire: https://www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org/school-board-2023. Only Miranda answered. Looks like Angelo didn't bother responding at all. Sounds par for the course. He's a no show at the advisory committee meetings, a no show at at least two forums, no show at his own election, and not bothering to engage with a community group. Whether you like APE or not, not responding is not the action of a community leader who wants to work with everyone.

Maybe that's because there is no separation between APE and MT's campaign? He might as well stop by the Turner family reunion to campaign. And APE has constantly criticized APS for standards-based grading. Just like the missing middle people, they always claim to be opposed to "the process" when anyone proposes something progressive. Frankly, I think it's principled to not respond to APE's questionnaire. I don't want a community leader that touches such a divisive group even with a 10-foot pole.

Agreed. APE is a LOBBYING GROUP. They have been trying to get Miranda elected for years. They may as well be her personal PAC. Angelo is smart to not answer their little questionnaire. He answered the AGIA questionnaire and did a dang good job with it too.

People keep putting him down for his age but he's proving himself to be savvy.

APE derangement runs deep. What is wrong with their "little" questionnaire?

From Miranda's page, it looks like they asked about 1) Remedying subsitute (Gasp!); 2) Standards-based grading (pearl clutch); 3) Reducing class sizes (Pass the smelling salts!); 4) Learning Loss and Achievement gaps (Dastardly!) 5) device usage at schools (villians!)

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6041ba6620a81d18855bdb62/t/64512b38322df0273fd9abe7/1683041080616/APE+Miranda+Turner+Responses+April+2023.docx.pdf

It's 5 questions. Written responses. Seems like a fair arrangement so that there was an equal playing field. He could have asked Reid to do his homework for him if he was too busy finishing his finals.

He could have but he didn't want to play APE's game. Good for him. APE isn't a legit org. They're a lobbying group, and right now they exist to elect Miranda.

He answered the AGIA questions so it's not like he's against answering questions from a LEGIT group.

I also heard from ACDC peeps that APE asked for a debate and AC turned them DOWN. Never got confirmation though, so I don't know if APE ever wanted a debate and didn't get it, or if it's just a rumor. I agree PP, I'd say it's a power move and APE just doesn't like when they're spurned.

That APE questionnaire was a "power move?" And just what "power" do you think it has? They put out something to address the issues they want addressed. The opponent chose not to respond - when responding would have given him a prime opportunity to distinguish himself/his views on the very specific topics everyone is so critical of APE for.

I'm pretty sure, actually, that APE put it out on its FB page for people to ask questions they wanted asked of the candidates. They also survey members to select priorities. So it's a pretty democratic process.

As for astroturfing, if you watch what they are doing, they actually ARE advocating for more transparency, etc. They pushed for the dashboard. They are asking APS to show more data. This is a real thing the org does.

Thanks, Jeff, for deleting the other link and explaining why. I clicked on it, and that was some crazy conspiracy stuff, that, again, mostly boiled down to the fact that Turner has friends who are Republicans.

DP. You’re minimizing her relationships. She partnered with them for years. One works at a Koch think tank. And you’re overlooking the bullying/vitriol that she found acceptable.

NP. Are you saying we should never advocate alongside someone unless we agree 100%? The dude works for a GMU think tank that receives limited funding from Koch (like many other museums and other great causes). Looks like a libertarian group. Hardly worthy of the insinuations of your post.

I wouldn’t advocate and partner with people who were all out abusive to others in our community. In the same community she’s seeking a public office.

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Anonymous wrote:Been telling neighbors about the kid and they can’t believe he’s 22. Maybe a couple of them make it out to vote.

So where do the candidates stand on standards based grading?

APE asked about it in the candidate questionnaire: https://www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org/school-board-2023. Only Miranda answered. Looks like Angelo didn't bother responding at all. Sounds par for the course. He's a no show at the advisory committee meetings, a no show at at least two forums, no show at his own election, and not bothering to engage with a community group. Whether you like APE or not, not responding is not the action of a community leader who wants to work with everyone.

Maybe that's because there is no separation between APE and MT's campaign? He might as well stop by the Turner family reunion to campaign. And APE has constantly criticized APS for standards-based grading. Just like the missing middle people, they always claim to be opposed to "the process" when anyone proposes something progressive. Frankly, I think it's principled to not respond to APE's questionnaire. I don't want a community leader that touches such a divisive group even with a 10-foot pole.

Agreed. APE is a LOBBYING GROUP. They have been trying to get Miranda elected for years. They may as well be her personal PAC. Angelo is smart to not answer their little questionnaire. He answered the AGIA questionnaire and did a dang good job with it too.

People keep putting him down for his age but he's proving himself to be savvy.

APE derangement runs deep. What is wrong with their "little" questionnaire?

From Miranda's page, it looks like they asked about 1) Remedying subsitute (Gasp!); 2) Standards-based grading (pearl clutch); 3) Reducing class sizes (Pass the smelling salts!); 4) Learning Loss and Achievement gaps (Dastardly!) 5) device usage at schools (villians!)

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6041ba6620a81d18855bdb62/t/64512b38322df0273fd9abe7/1683041080616/APE+Miranda+Turner+Responses+April+2023.docx.pdf

It's 5 questions. Written responses. Seems like a fair arrangement so that there was an equal playing field. He could have asked Reid to do his homework for him if he was too busy finishing his finals.

He could have but he didn't want to play APE's game. Good for him. APE isn't a legit org. They're a lobbying group, and right now they exist to elect Miranda.

He answered the AGIA questions so it's not like he's against answering questions from a LEGIT group.

I also heard from ACDC peeps that APE asked for a debate and AC turned them DOWN. Never got confirmation though, so I don't know if APE ever wanted a debate and didn't get it, or if it's just a rumor. I agree PP, I'd say it's a power move and APE just doesn't like when they're spurned.

That APE questionnaire was a "power move?" And just what "power" do you think it has? They put out something to address the issues they want addressed. The opponent chose not to respond - when responding would have given him a prime opportunity to distinguish himself/his views on the very specific topics everyone is so critical of APE for.

I'm pretty sure, actually, that APE put it out on its FB page for people to ask questions they wanted asked of the candidates. They also survey members to select priorities. So it's a pretty democratic process.

As for astroturfing, if you watch what they are doing, they actually ARE advocating for more transparency, etc. They pushed for the dashboard. They are asking APS to show more data. This is a real thing the org does.

Thanks, Jeff, for deleting the other link and explaining why. I clicked on it, and that was some crazy conspiracy stuff, that, again, mostly boiled down to the fact that Turner has friends who are Republicans.

DP. You’re minimizing her relationships. She partnered with them for years. One works at a Koch think tank. And you’re overlooking the bullying/vitriol that she found acceptable.

NP. Are you saying we should never advocate alongside someone unless we agree 100%? The dude works for a GMU think tank that receives limited funding from Koch (like many other museums and other great causes). Looks like a libertarian group. Hardly worthy of the insinuations of your post.

I wouldn’t advocate and partner with people who were all out abusive to others in our community. In the same community she’s seeking a public office.

Sounds like you should vote for MT. Angelo’s supporters are interfering in an election and posting conspiracy theories under an anonymous account. He is aligned with them unless he denounces them and demands them to reveal their names and state the truth.

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Anonymous wrote:Been telling neighbors about the kid and they can’t believe he’s 22. Maybe a couple of them make it out to vote.

So where do the candidates stand on standards based grading?

APE asked about it in the candidate questionnaire: https://www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org/school-board-2023. Only Miranda answered. Looks like Angelo didn't bother responding at all. Sounds par for the course. He's a no show at the advisory committee meetings, a no show at at least two forums, no show at his own election, and not bothering to engage with a community group. Whether you like APE or not, not responding is not the action of a community leader who wants to work with everyone.

Maybe that's because there is no separation between APE and MT's campaign? He might as well stop by the Turner family reunion to campaign. And APE has constantly criticized APS for standards-based grading. Just like the missing middle people, they always claim to be opposed to "the process" when anyone proposes something progressive. Frankly, I think it's principled to not respond to APE's questionnaire. I don't want a community leader that touches such a divisive group even with a 10-foot pole.

Agreed. APE is a LOBBYING GROUP. They have been trying to get Miranda elected for years. They may as well be her personal PAC. Angelo is smart to not answer their little questionnaire. He answered the AGIA questionnaire and did a dang good job with it too.

People keep putting him down for his age but he's proving himself to be savvy.

APE derangement runs deep. What is wrong with their "little" questionnaire?

From Miranda's page, it looks like they asked about 1) Remedying subsitute (Gasp!); 2) Standards-based grading (pearl clutch); 3) Reducing class sizes (Pass the smelling salts!); 4) Learning Loss and Achievement gaps (Dastardly!) 5) device usage at schools (villians!)

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6041ba6620a81d18855bdb62/t/64512b38322df0273fd9abe7/1683041080616/APE+Miranda+Turner+Responses+April+2023.docx.pdf

It's 5 questions. Written responses. Seems like a fair arrangement so that there was an equal playing field. He could have asked Reid to do his homework for him if he was too busy finishing his finals.

He could have but he didn't want to play APE's game. Good for him. APE isn't a legit org. They're a lobbying group, and right now they exist to elect Miranda.

He answered the AGIA questions so it's not like he's against answering questions from a LEGIT group.

I also heard from ACDC peeps that APE asked for a debate and AC turned them DOWN. Never got confirmation though, so I don't know if APE ever wanted a debate and didn't get it, or if it's just a rumor. I agree PP, I'd say it's a power move and APE just doesn't like when they're spurned.

That APE questionnaire was a "power move?" And just what "power" do you think it has? They put out something to address the issues they want addressed. The opponent chose not to respond - when responding would have given him a prime opportunity to distinguish himself/his views on the very specific topics everyone is so critical of APE for.

I'm pretty sure, actually, that APE put it out on its FB page for people to ask questions they wanted asked of the candidates. They also survey members to select priorities. So it's a pretty democratic process.

As for astroturfing, if you watch what they are doing, they actually ARE advocating for more transparency, etc. They pushed for the dashboard. They are asking APS to show more data. This is a real thing the org does.

Thanks, Jeff, for deleting the other link and explaining why. I clicked on it, and that was some crazy conspiracy stuff, that, again, mostly boiled down to the fact that Turner has friends who are Republicans.

DP. You’re minimizing her relationships. She partnered with them for years. One works at a Koch think tank. And you’re overlooking the bullying/vitriol that she found acceptable.

NP. Are you saying we should never advocate alongside someone unless we agree 100%? The dude works for a GMU think tank that receives limited funding from Koch (like many other museums and other great causes). Looks like a libertarian group. Hardly worthy of the insinuations of your post.

I wouldn’t advocate and partner with people who were all out abusive to others in our community. In the same community she’s seeking a public office.

Sounds like you should vote for MT. Angelo’s supporters are interfering in an election and posting conspiracy theories under an anonymous account. He is aligned with them unless he denounces them and demands them to reveal their names and state the truth.

Just to be clear, there are no Angelo supporters. There are only Miranda haters.