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Anonymous wrote:Violence is inexcusable. If indeed William laid hands in his brother he has a lot to apologize for.

Inexcusable? I don't know, some brothers still wrestle, even as grown-ups. Should they? Probably not. People do lots of things they probably shouldn't do.

Presumably a friendly tussle is different from shoving your brother forcefully because you disapprove of his choice of wife. 🙄

The issue was that Meghan was bullying the palace staff.

I really wish she'd addressed this in their documentary on Netflix.

She didn't dare say anything about it, lest Buckingham Palace release "the goods" on her. Wonder if it will leak now. William will be p*ssed and likely find it difficult to restrain himself.

Why would they do that? I thought they would say no comment. Are you saying they will make an exception to trash MM?

Oh they do comment. They use the tabloids to do so.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602551/Prince-Harrys-book-William-pointed-finger-Meghan-called-rude.html
I hope Spare is clearer than this DailyMail article. Meghan makes a comment about hormones that sets Kate off at the bridal salon, but then somehow (at a different point in time?) William shows up and waves a finger in her face and that makes Meghan cry?

The way I read this is that there was a confrontation after the bridal salon exchange.

Man if someone I barely knew told me I had "baby brain" I would be LIVID. Is anyone else seeing this as William defending his wife?

Yeah, but I thought there was crying during the bridal salon exchange, so I guess I'm just not understanding the sequence. Anyway, I can see how some people would get pissed at that kind of offhand remark being made, especially Kate with her tough pregnancies. But many many many others would just laugh it off.

yeah. i joke about mommy brain and baby brain with my friends (who are also mothers). it's definitely not up there with the worst things you could say to an in-law.

Not the worst thing. But it can be used as an insult. And getting a finger wag in response seems appropriate.

Not a great relationship among in-laws. But not the worst. Or at least not then - now it is. SMH

How could the money and revenge possibly have been worth the end of your relationship with your only brother? I don't care how much you resented being "the spare," it is simply not worth it.

What did Harry actually want of William? To change their birth order? In every aspect of life (like it or not), there is a hierarchy.

I think he wanted his family/the institution to protect him in the same way William was protected. It's an understandable desire, if not realistic.

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He literally says in the 60 minutes clip “I want a family, not an institution.”

What do people not get about this?? Makes perfect sense. It’s never a good idea to so clearly treat one sibling better than the other. And don’t give me any Bs about this being the royal family. It doesn’t matter, they don’t “have” to do things that way.

Only one person can inherit. That's a fact of life. Life that has dealt Harry rather a good hand. Older brother is being raised to lead, younger to support him.

He could have had his family if he played by the rules.

This book virtually guarantees he'd never be welcome back.

Harry was given a huge platform to lead within the RF, Invictus Games and Military advocacy, Climate Change, Mental Health. He is simply envious of his brother. If he wants to be on equal footing with his brother he has to go earn it himself, and as we have seen he is incapable of even making a living for himself beyond trashing his family, let alone take on a leadership role in the world stage.

Nope. Wrong again. Harry said they would have been happy to stay in the fold and be working royals all their lives if Charles and Will would only stop feeding negative stories about them to the press and scapegoating Meghan. Not exactly a huge request.

Is there more evidence about this, other than the one letter to her father that was leaked? A violation of privacy, to be sure, but I thought if anything the letter made her more sympathetic not less.

SHE is the one that selectively leaked that letter to People magazine through her five friends.

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Anonymous wrote:He didn’t have to be the spare. He could have done something with his life. Couldn’t advance in the military because he couldn’t pass the texts so he had to leave, didn’t go to college, so complaining is his only means of employment.

Something like what? Sentebale? The Invictus Games? Co-write a book that has attracted worldwide interest? Establish a globally focused foundation? What exactly do you think Harry “could have done…with is life” that you would regard as more suitable employment?

All of those are great things but he needs to stop complaining.

I’m sure he cares deeply about what some nobody on an American mommy message board thinks he “needs to stop” doing.

He cares very much. His livelihood depends on being able to sell books and soon enough Tupperware this exact demographic.

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Anonymous wrote:IN an emotional excerpt from Prince Harry's upcoming memoir, Spare, the royal reveals the devastating moment he learnt of Princess Diana's death and claims King Charles "did not hug" him.

In the book, Harry writes he and Prince William were in their room wearing PJs when the then Prince Charles bid them goodnight, telling them to "be good" and not stay up too late.

The pair of young royals proceeded to sneak out, meeting with the Queen's piper, who let them try to play his bagpipes.

Later that evening, Charles sat on the end of Harry's bed and told him "my dear son, mum has had a car accident."

Prince Harry claims his father did not hug him when delivering the life-changing news and that he later "felt like a politician" as he met with mourning Brits.

Ok, so he didn't hug him--pretty sure Charles did not receive much in the way of hugs growing up. It does sound like he conveyed the news as kindly as possible. jfc.

Maybe he could have made the time to read a single parenting book, so he’d know that when you tell your young son his beloved mother is dead, you hold him.

His son lies, a lot, so much so that he can’t keep track of all the versions of a single event. Charles went and personally collected his ex wife’s body because he cared so much about his boys.

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Anonymous wrote:Violence is inexcusable. If indeed William laid hands in his brother he has a lot to apologize for.

Inexcusable? I don't know, some brothers still wrestle, even as grown-ups. Should they? Probably not. People do lots of things they probably shouldn't do.

Presumably a friendly tussle is different from shoving your brother forcefully because you disapprove of his choice of wife. 🙄

If a soon to be wife was mocking was mocking is wife, he wasn't wrong.

Of course he was wrong. Adults don’t hit or shove. He’s not 8.

You misunderstand. He was right to disapprove of the choice of wife. She is a disaster.

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Anonymous wrote:IN an emotional excerpt from Prince Harry's upcoming memoir, Spare, the royal reveals the devastating moment he learnt of Princess Diana's death and claims King Charles "did not hug" him.

In the book, Harry writes he and Prince William were in their room wearing PJs when the then Prince Charles bid them goodnight, telling them to "be good" and not stay up too late.

The pair of young royals proceeded to sneak out, meeting with the Queen's piper, who let them try to play his bagpipes.

Later that evening, Charles sat on the end of Harry's bed and told him "my dear son, mum has had a car accident."

Prince Harry claims his father did not hug him when delivering the life-changing news and that he later "felt like a politician" as he met with mourning Brits.

Ok, so he didn't hug him--pretty sure Charles did not receive much in the way of hugs growing up. It does sound like he conveyed the news as kindly as possible. jfc.

Maybe he could have made the time to read a single parenting book, so he’d know that when you tell your young son his beloved mother is dead, you hold him.

His son lies, a lot, so much so that he can’t keep track of all the versions of a single event. Charles went and personally collected his ex wife’s body because he cared so much about his boys.

Or because optics demanded he do so. Or perhaps both things could be true.

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I’m glad all the juicy bits are being released so I don’t have to read this. I would hate contributing a dime towards the upkeep of these two drifters but I do enjoy following their drama.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m glad all the juicy bits are being released so I don’t have to read this. I would hate contributing a dime towards the upkeep of these two drifters but I do enjoy following their drama.

+1. It's kind of fascinating to watch two privileged grown adults whine about how they aren't more privileged and prevaricate.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m glad all the juicy bits are being released so I don’t have to read this. I would hate contributing a dime towards the upkeep of these two drifters but I do enjoy following their drama.

+1. It's kind of fascinating to watch two privileged grown adults whine about how they aren't more privileged and prevaricate.

And to be a near 40 year old adult with a family and still complaining and feeling hurt that your brother got a bigger bedroom when you were children. He seems very emotionally immature. I don't intend to read it either, no matter how good his ghostwriter is, it seems the book is just a record of all the times he feels he was wronged in his life.

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Harry wasn’t raised in a warm and fuzzy environment, and it shows.

BUT, go ask any boomer what their own parents were like, and I suspect you’ll hear what sounds like benign neglect, absent parents, no hugs, etc. An entire generation was raised like that except they weren’t surrounded by wealth and paid caregivers. And they never complained.

Harry is the worst of “victims” precisely because he is surrounded by Meghan egging him on along with therapists and hangers on who applaud his victimhood.

Constantly centering your own feelings/perspective is selfish. People like that tend to be terrible partners and even worse parents.

I feel sorry for him…unless it’s all just an act to milk the sympathy, remain relevant and shake the money tree. If that’s the case, then he’s a pathetic charlatan. Either way he’s neither impressive nor honorable.

I’m baffled by his lack of resilience. While he was dealt a bad hand, he’s had so many resources to help him along the way. Perhaps that’s the issue: he was indulged and never had to cowboy up and handle his life. I don’t know why anyone would feel sorry for him.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is in such poor taste. I can’t believe the world knows these personal details. I feel like Harry literally didn’t understand the assignment with this memoir and he has removed all doubt that he’s a fool. As they say, discretion is the better part of valor.

Agree. He’s so high on his own supply of victimhood that he doesn’t realize he’s degraded himself and the family. He doesn’t grasp he ceded the high ground.

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I think their early lives were like that of child stars and, surprise, surprise-child stars rarely turn out ok. (I’m talking about both brothers here.)

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Anonymous wrote:I’m glad all the juicy bits are being released so I don’t have to read this. I would hate contributing a dime towards the upkeep of these two drifters but I do enjoy following their drama.

I feel gross even reading this thread, but here I am, and — wow – the details coming out now are much ickier than anticipated. I expected accusations of favoritism and neglect, but not a battlefield scorecard and circumcision and yikes.

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Is there anything good in the book? Is it just a list of grievances or is this miserable SOB grateful or happy about anything in his sorry (privileged) life?

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Anonymous wrote:IN an emotional excerpt from Prince Harry's upcoming memoir, Spare, the royal reveals the devastating moment he learnt of Princess Diana's death and claims King Charles "did not hug" him.

In the book, Harry writes he and Prince William were in their room wearing PJs when the then Prince Charles bid them goodnight, telling them to "be good" and not stay up too late.

The pair of young royals proceeded to sneak out, meeting with the Queen's piper, who let them try to play his bagpipes.

Later that evening, Charles sat on the end of Harry's bed and told him "my dear son, mum has had a car accident."

Prince Harry claims his father did not hug him when delivering the life-changing news and that he later "felt like a politician" as he met with mourning Brits.

Ok, so he didn't hug him--pretty sure Charles did not receive much in the way of hugs growing up. It does sound like he conveyed the news as kindly as possible. jfc.

Maybe he could have made the time to read a single parenting book, so he’d know that when you tell your young son his beloved mother is dead, you hold him.

His son lies, a lot, so much so that he can’t keep track of all the versions of a single event. Charles went and personally collected his ex wife’s body because he cared so much about his boys.

Or because optics demanded he do so. Or perhaps both things could be true.

Optics did not demand that. He had a bitter, very public divorce, no one expected him to rush to Paris immediately as he did. There is so much documented evidence of Charles being there for his sons and spending quality time with them. It sucks that Harry was a child of an unhappy marriage and bitter divorce, but most people don’t get the fairy tale parents they imagine. Harry has little understanding or empathy for his father. He is the quintessential emotionally stunted spoiled heir.