Fire in upper NW?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I have not been on this thread for several days. Partly due to the snarkiness of one troll. I attribute 99.9% of the snarky comments were posted by the individual. Looks like most became tired of and moved over to websleuths. Sad.


Yes, if you see them over there, please invite them back and let them know they are missed!


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Actually, I enjoy the critical thinking and heart felt views of locals. The snarky comments seem to come out of left field. I try to ignore it. But they do wear on the reader. It contributes nothing to the conversation.
Anonymous
It's just all so horrible and unbelievable. A sick twisted perversion of humanity. Evil incarnate.

May the victims rest in peace.
Anonymous
I think Wint was jealous. I don't think it was a personal vendetta. It was pure jealousy!
Anonymous
Nah, there's a lot more to this story that we are not hearing about.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Nah, there's a lot more to this story that we are not hearing about.


Interesting. would you care to share your theory or ideas?
Anonymous
Things I still don't get:

1. How did everyone recognize Figueroa's husband so quickly at the door that SS was able to call him within a minute or two of his arrival? That implies cameras still up at front door, no?

2. That he was able to call Figueroa's husband on his cell to me is proof positive that Vera was conscious in the morning (we know she was alive, but others have speculated about her condition). Why didn't they just stay quiet and let Mr. Figueroa leave? Why call him and wave him off?

3. How did SS get home from the dojo? In what car? What car was AS driving?

4. Why take the Porsche at all, given that there must have been some other way of leaving if there was more than one perpetrator?

5. Assuming it was SS at 11:54 Thursday call to Jordan, what possible purpose to that call?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Things I still don't get:

1. How did everyone recognize Figueroa's husband so quickly at the door that SS was able to call him within a minute or two of his arrival? That implies cameras still up at front door, no?

2. That he was able to call Figueroa's husband on his cell to me is proof positive that Vera was conscious in the morning (we know she was alive, but others have speculated about her condition). Why didn't they just stay quiet and let Mr. Figueroa leave? Why call him and wave him ?


1?you can see people's face from an upstairs window, not necessarily through the camera. I do this a lot without the person at the door noticing it.
2. SS calling Figueroa's husband doesn't indicate Figueroa's oK or not OK. Calling her husband will prevent him from being worried and starting to check with more people or the authority. Wint probably forced SS to make the call.
Anonymous
But is it really plausible that SS would have Figueroa's husband's cell on his phone? Not to me.
Anonymous
_DNA in the local Jesse Mathews case was so overwhelming that Jesse Mathews agreed and a conviction resulted. This case has 2 of known DNA matches, so this is encouraging for the power of DNA evidence.

_Concern arose in reading about the 2 escaped prisoners from NY and the massive manhunt for them.

1) Wondering what laws, safeguards, etc can give the community the highest level of protection against the escape of a convicted murderer of such cruelty? What can the community really rely on?

2) What is the educational component of correctional officers on developing relationships with prisoners.? In many cases, especially Maryland it is women guards that where lured into helping the prisoners in a variety of ways. This seems to be the case in the NY escape where they have 400+ officers looking for escapees.

Justice and safety are key issues here


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:But is it really plausible that SS would have Figueroa's husband's cell on his phone? Not to me.


We know someone stole the cell phones from the home, probably Wint. I'm sure he had control of all 3 phones at that point.
Couldn't he have looked up the number from Ms. Figueroa'ss phone and called it from Mr. Savapoulos phone?
Alternatively, Mr. Savapoulos was reportedly a very involved Dad, and may well have needed to communicate with Ms. Figueroa periodically to discuss details about Philip's care, home improvement contractors coming to the home, etc.

The housekeeper seems to have not been brutalized to the extent that the rest of the family were. At least from the reports that are available now. Mr. and Mrs. Savapoulos both had reported blunt injuries and/or stab wounds. Ms. Figueroa was still alive when the first responders arrived and did not die until she reached the hospital. That does make the crime sound more personal. Hatred for the rich in general ? Feeling wronged by Mr. Savapoulos for some psycho reason? Jealousy? All reasons that others have put forward. I hope the truth will come out eventually.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:_DNA in the local Jesse Mathews case was so overwhelming that Jesse Mathews agreed and a conviction resulted. This case has 2 of known DNA matches, so this is encouraging for the power of DNA evidence.

_Concern arose in reading about the 2 escaped prisoners from NY and the massive manhunt for them.

1) Wondering what laws, safeguards, etc can give the community the highest level of protection against the escape of a convicted murderer of such cruelty? What can the community really rely on?

2) What is the educational component of correctional officers on developing relationships with prisoners.? In many cases, especially Maryland it is women guards that where lured into helping the prisoners in a variety of ways. This seems to be the case in the NY escape where they have 400+ officers looking for escapees.

Justice and safety are key issues here




Wonderful news about the DNA testimony in the Jesse Matthews case.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Things I still don't get:

1. How did everyone recognize Figueroa's husband so quickly at the door that SS was able to call him within a minute or two of his arrival? That implies cameras still up at front door, no?

2. That he was able to call Figueroa's husband on his cell to me is proof positive that Vera was conscious in the morning (we know she was alive, but others have speculated about her condition). Why didn't they just stay quiet and let Mr. Figueroa leave? Why call him and wave him off?

3. How did SS get home from the dojo? In what car? What car was AS driving?

4. Why take the Porsche at all, given that there must have been some other way of leaving if there was more than one perpetrator?

5. Assuming it was SS at 11:54 Thursday call to Jordan, what possible purpose to that call?


2) Maybe they didnt want him to see the evidence of forced entry: bootprint on door and broken window. but I'm not sure where that door is located in reference to the front door. Maybe that is the door he was starting to walk around to knock on?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Things I still don't get:

1. How did everyone recognize Figueroa's husband so quickly at the door that SS was able to call him within a minute or two of his arrival? That implies cameras still up at front door, no?

2. That he was able to call Figueroa's husband on his cell to me is proof positive that Vera was conscious in the morning (we know she was alive, but others have speculated about her condition). Why didn't they just stay quiet and let Mr. Figueroa leave? Why call him and wave him off?

3. How did SS get home from the dojo? In what car? What car was AS driving?

4. Why take the Porsche at all, given that there must have been some other way of leaving if there was more than one perpetrator?

5. Assuming it was SS at 11:54 Thursday call to Jordan, what possible purpose to that call?



5) I am very puzzled by that as well. I know sometimes my phone will automatically dial the last number contacted if I put it in my pocket without locking it . Maybe the phone was dropped or jostled in such a way to activate the recall mechanism.
Anonymous
1. How did everyone recognize Figueroa's husband so quickly at the door that SS was able to call him within a minute or two of his arrival? That implies cameras still up at front door, no?
2. That he was able to call Figueroa's husband on his cell to me is proof positive that Vera was conscious in the morning (we know she was alive, but others have speculated about her condition). Why didn't they just stay quiet and let Mr. Figueroa leave? Why call him and wave him off?
in one article, it said that Figueroa's husband "knew" someone was inside. She was likely alive, because it was her the medics attempted CPR on. She gave SS the number.

3. How did SS get home from the dojo? In what car? What car was AS driving?
ONe of them was dritinv the Porsche which is why is was parked on the street (and normally not parked on the street)

4. Why take the Porsche at all, given that there must have been some other way of leaving if there was more than one perpetrator?
The perpetrator wouldn't want to use his own car or someone he knew. A neighbor could see the car and would have been able to ID it. (Proof: someone did see the Porsche and attempt to ID the driver). And all DW had to do was get within walking distance of his house and then torch it.5. Assuming it was SS at 11:54 Thursday call to Jordan, what possible purpose to that call?
It was probably DW using SS phone (assuming you think Jordan is involved). it may have been a code...just let the phone ring, or Jordan willfully didn't answer.
Anonymous
But assuming more than one perp - why does 1 of them (and presumably only 1) leave burning house in Porsche? Others are not going to take risk of just leaving house on foot. There must be another car involved. Public transportation too far away; not plausible they would take it. Or do 2 guys leave in Porsche and one gets dropped off at metro? Why would they do that?

In my opinion, Porsche was taken to church parking lot at 1:30. Perp goes home, showers, etc. Then comes back to torch it at 5:30.
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