Will you talk to the teacher if DD is 1% point away from passing

[Anonymous]

MY DD is pissed off because she failed Earth Science. AT HOME she started cursing out her teacher. She said she knows that her teacher told her to turn in a couple assignments she was missing and if she did she would of gotten full credit. The problem was her 4th quarter project which counted an EXAM grade she did very poorly in. in final exam she got lower than a 50% She ended up with a 59% F as a final grade for the class. 60% IS passing. MY DD does have ADHD and other special needs. She is in a team taught class, but should a special ed student get special help when they are so close in passing? her other grades are not that bad expect for Algebra 2.

[Anonymous]

Let her fail. It will teach her to turn in the projects next time.

I'm saying this as a parent to an ADHD kid who I "helped" every time she failed. Now, she doesn't really know how to avoid failing in real life.

[Anonymous]

It's a bitter pill to swallow but it sounds like she's actually capable of doing the work or at least turning in assignments.

Let her cool down, then talk with her about what she thinks she could do differently. Those missed assignments probably would have made the difference. If she has organizational issues, it's time to work on those. There are tutors and books that deal with executive functioning/organizational issues.

[Anonymous]

I would be more concerned about why she got a 50% on the final exam. Did she run out of time? Not understand the questions? Not understand the material? Whether or not she officially passes, she clearly has unmet needs in this class and you need to figure that out so she can get different or more support in the future.

[Anonymous]

My DD was out for several days and did her makeup work only to come home and tell me her science teacher said she won't accept late homework EVER. I waited until six days before the end of the quarter to talk to the teacher and basically say "Is my kid just plum screwed when she gets sick?" and the teacher was like "Holy crap she completely got it wrong! If she comes to me, I'll give her extra credit to bring her grade back up."

So I talked DD into doing that and every day it was "Do you need help with your science? Can I do anything to help? Do you have science to bring in to Ms. A today?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: She is in a team taught class, but should a special ed student get special help when they are so close in passing?

OP my guess is that the special help she got this year helped her to get to 59% (rather than 49% or 39%). Your DD might be right - even with bombing the final exam as she did, turning in those assignments her teacher reached out to her about might have made the 1% difference. I agree with PPs that the time for talking about grades is over. Over the summer you can talk about organization, about math and science, what surprised her about this year's demands, what she'll need moving forward, changes to request at the next IEP meeting.

Apart from her other issues, it sounds like she lacks studying and test-taking skills. That's something she could address with private tutors and with her IEP team.

[Anonymous]

ADHD isn't an excuse for being lazy.

[Anonymous]

How enraging for you.
I can see my son with ADHD doing just that, in a few years.

I think you need to check if the med dosage is optimal.
Also your DD might need to work with an executive functioning coach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
How enraging for you.
I can see my son with ADHD doing just that, in a few years.

I think you need to check if the med dosage is optimal.
Also your DD might need to work with an executive functioning coach.

A couple problem with this class is that she has it everyday at 730 for like 50 minutes.
She goes to sleep late because she "working on homework and on her phone... We got her Adderall changed to 20mg in March. I believe her meds start taking affect at around 800. so class is almost over when they start taking affect.
Before then she was getting's a lot more F's in her report card. I am enraging and try my best a parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
How enraging for you.
I can see my son with ADHD doing just that, in a few years.

I think you need to check if the med dosage is optimal.
Also your DD might need to work with an executive functioning coach.

A couple problem with this class is that she has it everyday at 730 for like 50 minutes.
She goes to sleep late because she "working on homework and on her phone... We got her Adderall changed to 20mg in March. I believe her meds start taking affect at around 800. so class is almost over when they start taking affect.
Before then she was getting's a lot more F's in her report card. I am enraging and try my best a parent.

OP, it's time to limit screen time--this includes the phone. She doesn't need it for her homework. Until she develops better study habits, homework is done at the kitchen table, and the phone goes away after school. Right now, it's a distraction working against her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
How enraging for you.
I can see my son with ADHD doing just that, in a few years.

I think you need to check if the med dosage is optimal.
Also your DD might need to work with an executive functioning coach.

A couple problem with this class is that she has it everyday at 730 for like 50 minutes.
She goes to sleep late because she "working on homework and on her phone... We got her Adderall changed to 20mg in March. I believe her meds start taking affect at around 800. so class is almost over when they start taking affect.
Before then she was getting's a lot more F's in her report card. I am enraging and try my best a parent.

If school starts at 7:30, she needs to take meds early enough so that they are on board by 7:30. That might mean that she needs a booster to get through the whole day.

And you need to limit phone use and oversee her doing her homework.

[Anonymous]

It's better to fail now than later. Help her learn from this. Help her accept it and do better.

[Anonymous]

Have her talk to the teacher and ask if there is anything she can do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
How enraging for you.
I can see my son with ADHD doing just that, in a few years.

I think you need to check if the med dosage is optimal.
Also your DD might need to work with an executive functioning coach.

A couple problem with this class is that she has it everyday at 730 for like 50 minutes.
She goes to sleep late because she "working on homework and on her phone... We got her Adderall changed to 20mg in March. I believe her meds start taking affect at around 800. so class is almost over when they start taking affect.
Before then she was getting's a lot more F's in her report card. I am enraging and try my best a parent.

If school starts at 7:30, she needs to take meds early enough so that they are on board by 7:30. That might mean that she needs a booster to get through the whole day.

And you need to limit phone use and oversee her doing her homework.

Well for next year. But when I TOOK Her phone away she will act like a 2 year old.....
she will scream, yell not do anywork at all. She wakes up at 6:00 and takes the pills at like 6:30 ish and walks to the bus at like 640. gets to school t 700. how long does it take to get affect?

[Anonymous]

You referred to your DD as a 'special ed student' so I'm assuming she has an IEP. My DS has similar challenges and in this year's IEP we developed a goal related to homework. He has to learn strategies to ensure homework is completed AND turned in. He will review on a regular basis his grades/assignments, identifying what has not been completed and then evaluate the effectiveness of the strategy he used to complete the work. It's not been easy to implement, partly because I have to be more involved than I want but it's a skill he's GOT to learn.

But, to answer your question, no, I would not talk to the teacher about changing/re-evaluating DS's scores in order for him to pass the class. I would be handling it through the IEP so the academic and organizational issues are monitored and addressed.