Will you talk to the teacher if DD is 1% point away from passing

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How enraging for you.
I can see my son with ADHD doing just that, in a few years.

I think you need to check if the med dosage is optimal.
Also your DD might need to work with an executive functioning coach.

A couple problem with this class is that she has it everyday at 730 for like 50 minutes.
She goes to sleep late because she "working on homework and on her phone... We got her Adderall changed to 20mg in March. I believe her meds start taking affect at around 800. so class is almost over when they start taking affect.
Before then she was getting's a lot more F's in her report card. I am enraging and try my best a parent.

If school starts at 7:30, she needs to take meds early enough so that they are on board by 7:30. That might mean that she needs a booster to get through the whole day.

And you need to limit phone use and oversee her doing her homework.

Well for next year. But when I TOOK Her phone away she will act like a 2 year old.....
she will scream, yell not do anywork at all. She wakes up at 6:00 and takes the pills at like 6:30 ish and walks to the bus at like 640. gets to school t 700. how long does it take to get affect?

I don't know; it is different for each person.

Have you gotten good feedback from her teachers about the affects of the medicine? Do you know that adderral is the right drug for her? Next year, I would suggest talking to all of her teachers and seeing if they would fill out a brief checklist of symptoms periodically so that you can see how her attention ebbs and flows throughout the day and you can adjust her medication accordingly.

Re: her behavior if you take away the phone -- I have younger kids, so no specific advice, but a high school student acting like a 2 year old if you take something away is a big enough problem that you should be discussing solutions with her psychiatrist/pediatrician/whoever else is involved with her care.

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Nope belt her fail. She didn't turn in assignments. She needs to learn. It's much better now than in a professional setting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have her talk to the teacher and ask if there is anything she can do.

That ship has sailed. And if the parent does it for her she will be enabling her. Let her suffer the consequences of being on her phone at night and not turning in assignments. This kind of thing won't fly when she goes to college and has a job. And take away her phone--you shouldn't tolerate her acting like a 2 year old when you take her phone away.

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Derp

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Anonymous wrote:MY DD is pissed off because she failed Earth Science. AT HOME she started cursing out her teacher. She said she knows that her teacher told her to turn in a couple assignments she was missing and if she did she would of gotten full credit. The problem was her 4th quarter project which counted an EXAM grade she did very poorly in. in final exam she got lower than a 50% She ended up with a 59% F as a final grade for the class. 60% IS passing. MY DD does have ADHD and other special needs. She is in a team taught class, but should a special ed student get special help when they are so close in passing? her other grades are not that bad expect for Algebra 2.

Are you in MCPS? If your DD tried on an exam she cannot get a grade below 50%. I would contact the teacher and ask to see that test. You have a right under FERPA to see it. Go in with your DD to view it. Ask the teacher why she didn't apply the 50% rule. Contest the grade if necessary.

At the same time collect documentation for increased goals and support on the IEP for monitoring homework completion and turning it in. Your DD should be using a planner to write down homework assignments in each class every day. she needs likely needs supports at home to learn how to sort papers, complete homework and turn it in. I did this for my DS - homework planner signed by me every day, help organizing projects, checking that homework was turned in, checking Edline, etc. Over time DS developed the habits for himself and support could be faded. It helps if teachers are doing something similar on their end. Get that in your IEP. Your DD should have received supports long before she was failing.

Tell your DD, that even if your complaint helps her pass the class, getting a D still sucks and you expect more from her, and next year will be a changed routine, with more support from you. Now, hopefully, she has learned how important homework is.

[Anonymous]

If you "try" on an exam you can't get less than 50%? Wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MY DD is pissed off because she failed Earth Science. AT HOME she started cursing out her teacher. She said she knows that her teacher told her to turn in a couple assignments she was missing and if she did she would of gotten full credit. The problem was her 4th quarter project which counted an EXAM grade she did very poorly in. in final exam she got lower than a 50% She ended up with a 59% F as a final grade for the class. 60% IS passing. MY DD does have ADHD and other special needs. She is in a team taught class, but should a special ed student get special help when they are so close in passing? her other grades are not that bad expect for Algebra 2.

Yes, but it might not work. With all of the transparency of Edline, it can be very difficult to get a grade changed or moved up. I was able to get my son's grades rescinded at the end of fall semester because I was able to show the IEP wasn't followed. They gave him a month go redo certain assignments and get his grades up. It was a huge amount of work though. He wasn't just given points.

I think though this is a wake up call to you and the IEP team. After my son's failures, we put together a new, very intense plan, which has resulted in him passing everything. But it's a lot of work.

One last thing. You probably still have time to sign up for summer school if need be. Summer school is easier and it's only three weeks. But deadline is soon.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MY DD is pissed off because she failed Earth Science. AT HOME she started cursing out her teacher. She said she knows that her teacher told her to turn in a couple assignments she was missing and if she did she would of gotten full credit. The problem was her 4th quarter project which counted an EXAM grade she did very poorly in. in final exam she got lower than a 50% She ended up with a 59% F as a final grade for the class. 60% IS passing. MY DD does have ADHD and other special needs. She is in a team taught class, but should a special ed student get special help when they are so close in passing? her other grades are not that bad expect for Algebra 2.

Are you in MCPS? If your DD tried on an exam she cannot get a grade below 50%. I would contact the teacher and ask to see that test. You have a right under FERPA to see it. Go in with your DD to view it. Ask the teacher why she didn't apply the 50% rule. Contest the grade if necessary.

At the same time collect documentation for increased goals and support on the IEP for monitoring homework completion and turning it in. Your DD should be using a planner to write down homework assignments in each class every day. she needs likely needs supports at home to learn how to sort papers, complete homework and turn it in. I did this for my DS - homework planner signed by me every day, help organizing projects, checking that homework was turned in, checking Edline, etc. Over time DS developed the habits for himself and support could be faded. It helps if teachers are doing something similar on their end. Get that in your IEP. Your DD should have received supports long before she was failing.

Tell your DD, that even if your complaint helps her pass the class, getting a D still sucks and you expect more from her, and next year will be a changed routine, with more support from you. Now, hopefully, she has learned how important homework is.

Final Exams will not change that because grade table. but either way a D 61% E59% E 50% IS stil an E. she needs D 60% on 4th quarter to pass. I told her to talk to her teacher tomorrow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
How enraging for you.
I can see my son with ADHD doing just that, in a few years.

I think you need to check if the med dosage is optimal.
Also your DD might need to work with an executive functioning coach.

A couple problem with this class is that she has it everyday at 730 for like 50 minutes.
She goes to sleep late because she "working on homework and on her phone... We got her Adderall changed to 20mg in March. I believe her meds start taking affect at around 800. so class is almost over when they start taking affect.
Before then she was getting's a lot more F's in her report card. I am enraging and try my best a parent.

If school starts at 7:30, she needs to take meds early enough so that they are on board by 7:30. That might mean that she needs a booster to get through the whole day.

And you need to limit phone use and oversee her doing her homework.

Well for next year. But when I TOOK Her phone away she will act like a 2 year old.....
she will scream, yell not do anywork at all. She wakes up at 6:00 and takes the pills at like 6:30 ish and walks to the bus at like 640. gets to school t 700. how long does it take to get affect?

Regarding the effects of the meds, you need to get feedback from the school teachers and be advised by the psychiatrist who prescribed the medication.

Also, the phone is a privilege not a right or an appendage. She can have a phone, but at a certain point after she gets home, it goes in the charger. She needs to eat, do homework, prep for the next day, chores, etc. without her phone. You need to stand firm on this and it will be hard. If her grades improve, then you can loosen the reins.

You may want to see a family therapist together to help you both.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MY DD is pissed off because she failed Earth Science. AT HOME she started cursing out her teacher. She said she knows that her teacher told her to turn in a couple assignments she was missing and if she did she would of gotten full credit. The problem was her 4th quarter project which counted an EXAM grade she did very poorly in. in final exam she got lower than a 50% She ended up with a 59% F as a final grade for the class. 60% IS passing. MY DD does have ADHD and other special needs. She is in a team taught class, but should a special ed student get special help when they are so close in passing? her other grades are not that bad expect for Algebra 2.

Are you in MCPS? If your DD tried on an exam she cannot get a grade below 50%. I would contact the teacher and ask to see that test. You have a right under FERPA to see it. Go in with your DD to view it. Ask the teacher why she didn't apply the 50% rule. Contest the grade if necessary.

At the same time collect documentation for increased goals and support on the IEP for monitoring homework completion and turning it in. Your DD should be using a planner to write down homework assignments in each class every day. she needs likely needs supports at home to learn how to sort papers, complete homework and turn it in. I did this for my DS - homework planner signed by me every day, help organizing projects, checking that homework was turned in, checking Edline, etc. Over time DS developed the habits for himself and support could be faded. It helps if teachers are doing something similar on their end. Get that in your IEP. Your DD should have received supports long before she was failing.

Tell your DD, that even if your complaint helps her pass the class, getting a D still sucks and you expect more from her, and next year will be a changed routine, with more support from you. Now, hopefully, she has learned how important homework is.

yes, EDLINE SAYS FINAL EXAM 50% But she said she got a 40% that why I said she got lower than a 50% in her real exam

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you "try" on an exam you can't get less than 50%? Wow.

Welcome to MCPS. Setting students up for failure in the real world! --teacher

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you "try" on an exam you can't get less than 50%? Wow.

Welcome to MCPS. Setting students up for failure in the real world! --teacher

teacher?

are you a high school teacher? how hard is it to fail a class since if a students get C for one quarter they pass?. What the course failure rate %?S

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
How enraging for you.
I can see my son with ADHD doing just that, in a few years.

I think you need to check if the med dosage is optimal.
Also your DD might need to work with an executive functioning coach.

A couple problem with this class is that she has it everyday at 730 for like 50 minutes.
She goes to sleep late because she "working on homework and on her phone... We got her Adderall changed to 20mg in March. I believe her meds start taking affect at around 800. so class is almost over when they start taking affect.
Before then she was getting's a lot more F's in her report card. I am enraging and try my best a parent.

If school starts at 7:30, she needs to take meds early enough so that they are on board by 7:30. That might mean that she needs a booster to get through the whole day.

And you need to limit phone use and oversee her doing her homework.

Well for next year. But when I TOOK Her phone away she will act like a 2 year old.....
she will scream, yell not do anywork at all. She wakes up at 6:00 and takes the pills at like 6:30 ish and walks to the bus at like 640. gets to school t 700. how long does it take to get affect?

I'm PP with the ADHD son. He takes 20mg of Focalin Extended Release (3rd grade) at 8:30 and it takes 30 minutes to kick in, so he's ready to attend by the time his first class starts at 9am. It starts wearing off slowly at around 5pm. Extended release meds vary enormously in their tapering off because it depends on individual metabolism and how much one eats to keep enzymes from digesting the grains that need to survive in the stomach until mid-day, before disintegrating and taking effect.

You need to ask the psychiatrist how long your DD's meds take to kick in, but I would imagine they would be in her system by 7:30 if she takes them at 6:30? Perhaps she need a higher dose?
She may also be sleep deprived, and then no amount of meds will help her.

[Anonymous]

PP again - no phone in the bedroom, stays in the dock to charge. No screen time in the evening, so that sleep can come a little earlier. She can holler all she wants, your house, your rules.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MY DD is pissed off because she failed Earth Science. AT HOME she started cursing out her teacher. She said she knows that her teacher told her to turn in a couple assignments she was missing and if she did she would of gotten full credit. The problem was her 4th quarter project which counted an EXAM grade she did very poorly in. in final exam she got lower than a 50% She ended up with a 59% F as a final grade for the class. 60% IS passing. MY DD does have ADHD and other special needs. She is in a team taught class, but should a special ed student get special help when they are so close in passing? her other grades are not that bad expect for Algebra 2.

Yes, but it might not work. With all of the transparency of Edline, it can be very difficult to get a grade changed or moved up. I was able to get my son's grades rescinded at the end of fall semester because I was able to show the IEP wasn't followed. They gave him a month go redo certain assignments and get his grades up. It was a huge amount of work though. He wasn't just given points.

I think though this is a wake up call to you and the IEP team. After my son's failures, we put together a new, very intense plan, which has resulted in him passing everything. But it's a lot of work.

One last thing. You probably still have time to sign up for summer school if need be. Summer school is easier and it's only three weeks. But deadline is soon.

I think your DD needs more IEP support--learning organizational skills, better test taking strategies, and ensuring that she's actually learning the subject matter.

Summer school also wouldn't be a bad idea. Hang in there OP. I know it's hard.