ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:Will the best ECNL players -- especially Q1-Q2 -- now bolt for MLSN?

Why weren't they with MLS Next to begin with?

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Anonymous wrote:Let me get this straight, 2 years ago parents were fine kidwith their kid playing in NAL
This year they're fine with NAL becoming MLSN2

Next year they're going to run to ECNL because MLSN2 is still MLSN2 with the same age cutoff as ECNL

Is that the working theory?

That’s the theory for August-December birthdays. This year, a u15 Aug-dec birthday is eligible for u15 mls1 or u15 mls2 team. Many stay for the hope of being moved from 2 to 1.

Next year, those birthdays will be eligible for u16 mls1 or u15 mls2. If they don’t make the mls1 team there is no hope of being moved up in the future because they are now playing an age group below.

Moving up is based on individual skills, talent and potential

No labels move you up or keep you back if the coaches see your individual quality, or lack thereof

That’s works for u15 B team to u15 A team. Moving from a u15 B team to a u16 A team is almost impossible.

You can go from NCSL to New York Red Bulls academy if you have the quality

If you're a solid B team player who isn't doing enough to elevate your skills then wishing to be moved up just because you're in line is waiting for fools gold

Entitlement curse

Prior to this change they didn’t have to skip an age group to move up. They just had to move from a lower level team to a higher level team. Now they need to skip an age group to move from a lower level team to a higher level team. That’s a concerning position.

Isn't everyone in the same age group with people their age when the dust settles?

It's about talent groups not age groups at the highest levels
Everyone gets a medal and trophy days are done

Yes once they are adults, we’re talking about kids and how the system is affecting development and chances to reach that “higher” level

The age cutoff isn't the reason kids are on 2nd and 3rd teams today
It won't be the reason tomorrow

The majority of development responsibilities for youth is on the kids and parents
The system has its faults, but it's not responsible

Sure. That’s why 1st teams usually consist of the bigger kids with Q1 and Q2 birthdays

Yeah yeah yeah... we all know relative age effect has a presence
That's not the context of this discussion

And since you mentioned that, Q1 and Q4 in SY will be shifted

It is relative because MLSN is now screwing the aug-dec (RAE) kids by making MLSN1 BY and MLSN2 SY. RAE kids will not have a change at this point. They could either play down with the MLSN2 teams or play up with the MLSN2 team where there will even be older kids.

You cant choose to play down an age group

Given the changes in MLSN2 from current BY to SY, aug-dec birthday kids WILL play down, but if they want to play up they can they would have to play with even OLDER kids, in the older MLSN2 team. good luck with that...

They can't play down.

They will be eligible to play on a younger year B team or an older year A team. So playing down or playing up depending on where they go/where the club puts them. What’s so confusing? This makes perfect sense.

You can't register to play in an age group younger than yours.
What's confusing about that?

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Anonymous wrote:Let me get this straight, 2 years ago parents were fine kidwith their kid playing in NAL
This year they're fine with NAL becoming MLSN2

Next year they're going to run to ECNL because MLSN2 is still MLSN2 with the same age cutoff as ECNL

Is that the working theory?

That’s the theory for August-December birthdays. This year, a u15 Aug-dec birthday is eligible for u15 mls1 or u15 mls2 team. Many stay for the hope of being moved from 2 to 1.

Next year, those birthdays will be eligible for u16 mls1 or u15 mls2. If they don’t make the mls1 team there is no hope of being moved up in the future because they are now playing an age group below.

Moving up is based on individual skills, talent and potential

No labels move you up or keep you back if the coaches see your individual quality, or lack thereof

That’s works for u15 B team to u15 A team. Moving from a u15 B team to a u16 A team is almost impossible.

You can go from NCSL to New York Red Bulls academy if you have the quality

If you're a solid B team player who isn't doing enough to elevate your skills then wishing to be moved up just because you're in line is waiting for fools gold

Entitlement curse

Prior to this change they didn’t have to skip an age group to move up. They just had to move from a lower level team to a higher level team. Now they need to skip an age group to move from a lower level team to a higher level team. That’s a concerning position.

Isn't everyone in the same age group with people their age when the dust settles?

It's about talent groups not age groups at the highest levels
Everyone gets a medal and trophy days are done

Yes once they are adults, we’re talking about kids and how the system is affecting development and chances to reach that “higher” level

The age cutoff isn't the reason kids are on 2nd and 3rd teams today
It won't be the reason tomorrow

The majority of development responsibilities for youth is on the kids and parents
The system has its faults, but it's not responsible

Sure. That’s why 1st teams usually consist of the bigger kids with Q1 and Q2 birthdays

Yeah yeah yeah... we all know relative age effect has a presence
That's not the context of this discussion

And since you mentioned that, Q1 and Q4 in SY will be shifted

It is relative because MLSN is now screwing the aug-dec (RAE) kids by making MLSN1 BY and MLSN2 SY. RAE kids will not have a change at this point. They could either play down with the MLSN2 teams or play up with the MLSN2 team where there will even be older kids.

You cant choose to play down an age group

Given the changes in MLSN2 from current BY to SY, aug-dec birthday kids WILL play down, but if they want to play up they can they would have to play with even OLDER kids, in the older MLSN2 team. good luck with that...

Stupid comment

You play down if your league cutoff designates you a U15 but you're playing U14

If SY cutoff makes you U15 being born in September and everyone born in September is also U15, how are you playing down?

By playing down he means kids aug-dec birthday kids play down, in other words repeat their current age group. If you're U15 right now and play in the MLSN2 team and will stay in the MLSN2 team next year (which most will) you will play U15 again, which is essentially means playing down

There's no essentially

The kid will be playing On Age in the new system

There is no “on age” in the new MLSN system.

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Anonymous wrote:Let me get this straight, 2 years ago parents were fine kidwith their kid playing in NAL
This year they're fine with NAL becoming MLSN2

Next year they're going to run to ECNL because MLSN2 is still MLSN2 with the same age cutoff as ECNL

Is that the working theory?

That’s the theory for August-December birthdays. This year, a u15 Aug-dec birthday is eligible for u15 mls1 or u15 mls2 team. Many stay for the hope of being moved from 2 to 1.

Next year, those birthdays will be eligible for u16 mls1 or u15 mls2. If they don’t make the mls1 team there is no hope of being moved up in the future because they are now playing an age group below.

Moving up is based on individual skills, talent and potential

No labels move you up or keep you back if the coaches see your individual quality, or lack thereof

That’s works for u15 B team to u15 A team. Moving from a u15 B team to a u16 A team is almost impossible.

You can go from NCSL to New York Red Bulls academy if you have the quality

If you're a solid B team player who isn't doing enough to elevate your skills then wishing to be moved up just because you're in line is waiting for fools gold

Entitlement curse

Prior to this change they didn’t have to skip an age group to move up. They just had to move from a lower level team to a higher level team. Now they need to skip an age group to move from a lower level team to a higher level team. That’s a concerning position.

Isn't everyone in the same age group with people their age when the dust settles?

It's about talent groups not age groups at the highest levels
Everyone gets a medal and trophy days are done

Yes once they are adults, we’re talking about kids and how the system is affecting development and chances to reach that “higher” level

The age cutoff isn't the reason kids are on 2nd and 3rd teams today
It won't be the reason tomorrow

The majority of development responsibilities for youth is on the kids and parents
The system has its faults, but it's not responsible

Sure. That’s why 1st teams usually consist of the bigger kids with Q1 and Q2 birthdays

Yeah yeah yeah... we all know relative age effect has a presence
That's not the context of this discussion

And since you mentioned that, Q1 and Q4 in SY will be shifted

It is relative because MLSN is now screwing the aug-dec (RAE) kids by making MLSN1 BY and MLSN2 SY. RAE kids will not have a change at this point. They could either play down with the MLSN2 teams or play up with the MLSN2 team where there will even be older kids.

You cant choose to play down an age group

Given the changes in MLSN2 from current BY to SY, aug-dec birthday kids WILL play down, but if they want to play up they can they would have to play with even OLDER kids, in the older MLSN2 team. good luck with that...

They can't play down.

They will be eligible to play on a younger year B team or an older year A team. So playing down or playing up depending on where they go/where the club puts them. What’s so confusing? This makes perfect sense.

You can't register to play in an age group younger than yours.
What's confusing about that?

Aug-dec birthdays will have two age ranges in the new system. One a year younger and one a year older.

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Anonymous wrote:Let me get this straight, 2 years ago parents were fine kidwith their kid playing in NAL
This year they're fine with NAL becoming MLSN2

Next year they're going to run to ECNL because MLSN2 is still MLSN2 with the same age cutoff as ECNL

Is that the working theory?

That’s the theory for August-December birthdays. This year, a u15 Aug-dec birthday is eligible for u15 mls1 or u15 mls2 team. Many stay for the hope of being moved from 2 to 1.

Next year, those birthdays will be eligible for u16 mls1 or u15 mls2. If they don’t make the mls1 team there is no hope of being moved up in the future because they are now playing an age group below.

Moving up is based on individual skills, talent and potential

No labels move you up or keep you back if the coaches see your individual quality, or lack thereof

That’s works for u15 B team to u15 A team. Moving from a u15 B team to a u16 A team is almost impossible.

You can go from NCSL to New York Red Bulls academy if you have the quality

If you're a solid B team player who isn't doing enough to elevate your skills then wishing to be moved up just because you're in line is waiting for fools gold

Entitlement curse

Prior to this change they didn’t have to skip an age group to move up. They just had to move from a lower level team to a higher level team. Now they need to skip an age group to move from a lower level team to a higher level team. That’s a concerning position.

Isn't everyone in the same age group with people their age when the dust settles?

It's about talent groups not age groups at the highest levels
Everyone gets a medal and trophy days are done

Yes once they are adults, we’re talking about kids and how the system is affecting development and chances to reach that “higher” level

The age cutoff isn't the reason kids are on 2nd and 3rd teams today
It won't be the reason tomorrow

The majority of development responsibilities for youth is on the kids and parents
The system has its faults, but it's not responsible

Sure. That’s why 1st teams usually consist of the bigger kids with Q1 and Q2 birthdays

Yeah yeah yeah... we all know relative age effect has a presence
That's not the context of this discussion

And since you mentioned that, Q1 and Q4 in SY will be shifted

It is relative because MLSN is now screwing the aug-dec (RAE) kids by making MLSN1 BY and MLSN2 SY. RAE kids will not have a change at this point. They could either play down with the MLSN2 teams or play up with the MLSN2 team where there will even be older kids.

You cant choose to play down an age group

Given the changes in MLSN2 from current BY to SY, aug-dec birthday kids WILL play down, but if they want to play up they can they would have to play with even OLDER kids, in the older MLSN2 team. good luck with that...

They can't play down.

They will be eligible to play on a younger year B team or an older year A team. So playing down or playing up depending on where they go/where the club puts them. What’s so confusing? This makes perfect sense.

No, they have rules against playing down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks like people are starting to figure out that players need to play with their grade if they plan to be recruited and play in college.

Seriously dont listen to the numbnut that says playing on a grade down team is a good thing.

Logically it doesnt make sense.

Boys in MLSN1 for Q1 and Q2 will be playing a grade down. They will be fine but will have it tough competing with older ECNL boys for college slots

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Anonymous wrote:Let me get this straight, 2 years ago parents were fine kidwith their kid playing in NAL
This year they're fine with NAL becoming MLSN2

Next year they're going to run to ECNL because MLSN2 is still MLSN2 with the same age cutoff as ECNL

Is that the working theory?

That’s the theory for August-December birthdays. This year, a u15 Aug-dec birthday is eligible for u15 mls1 or u15 mls2 team. Many stay for the hope of being moved from 2 to 1.

Next year, those birthdays will be eligible for u16 mls1 or u15 mls2. If they don’t make the mls1 team there is no hope of being moved up in the future because they are now playing an age group below.

Moving up is based on individual skills, talent and potential

No labels move you up or keep you back if the coaches see your individual quality, or lack thereof

That’s works for u15 B team to u15 A team. Moving from a u15 B team to a u16 A team is almost impossible.

You can go from NCSL to New York Red Bulls academy if you have the quality

If you're a solid B team player who isn't doing enough to elevate your skills then wishing to be moved up just because you're in line is waiting for fools gold

Entitlement curse

Prior to this change they didn’t have to skip an age group to move up. They just had to move from a lower level team to a higher level team. Now they need to skip an age group to move from a lower level team to a higher level team. That’s a concerning position.

Isn't everyone in the same age group with people their age when the dust settles?

It's about talent groups not age groups at the highest levels
Everyone gets a medal and trophy days are done

Yes once they are adults, we’re talking about kids and how the system is affecting development and chances to reach that “higher” level

The age cutoff isn't the reason kids are on 2nd and 3rd teams today
It won't be the reason tomorrow

The majority of development responsibilities for youth is on the kids and parents
The system has its faults, but it's not responsible

Sure. That’s why 1st teams usually consist of the bigger kids with Q1 and Q2 birthdays

Yeah yeah yeah... we all know relative age effect has a presence
That's not the context of this discussion

And since you mentioned that, Q1 and Q4 in SY will be shifted

It is relative because MLSN is now screwing the aug-dec (RAE) kids by making MLSN1 BY and MLSN2 SY. RAE kids will not have a change at this point. They could either play down with the MLSN2 teams or play up with the MLSN2 team where there will even be older kids.

You cant choose to play down an age group

Given the changes in MLSN2 from current BY to SY, aug-dec birthday kids WILL play down, but if they want to play up they can they would have to play with even OLDER kids, in the older MLSN2 team. good luck with that...

They can't play down.

They will be eligible to play on a younger year B team or an older year A team. So playing down or playing up depending on where they go/where the club puts them. What’s so confusing? This makes perfect sense.

No, they have rules against playing down.

Joke all you want but this is a legit reason for aug-dec parents to be concerned if you were on the MLSN track. This isn’t disappointment that your kid is still a q4.

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Anonymous wrote:Let me get this straight, 2 years ago parents were fine kidwith their kid playing in NAL
This year they're fine with NAL becoming MLSN2

Next year they're going to run to ECNL because MLSN2 is still MLSN2 with the same age cutoff as ECNL

Is that the working theory?

That’s the theory for August-December birthdays. This year, a u15 Aug-dec birthday is eligible for u15 mls1 or u15 mls2 team. Many stay for the hope of being moved from 2 to 1.

Next year, those birthdays will be eligible for u16 mls1 or u15 mls2. If they don’t make the mls1 team there is no hope of being moved up in the future because they are now playing an age group below.

Moving up is based on individual skills, talent and potential

No labels move you up or keep you back if the coaches see your individual quality, or lack thereof

That’s works for u15 B team to u15 A team. Moving from a u15 B team to a u16 A team is almost impossible.

You can go from NCSL to New York Red Bulls academy if you have the quality

If you're a solid B team player who isn't doing enough to elevate your skills then wishing to be moved up just because you're in line is waiting for fools gold

Entitlement curse

Prior to this change they didn’t have to skip an age group to move up. They just had to move from a lower level team to a higher level team. Now they need to skip an age group to move from a lower level team to a higher level team. That’s a concerning position.

Isn't everyone in the same age group with people their age when the dust settles?

It's about talent groups not age groups at the highest levels
Everyone gets a medal and trophy days are done

Yes once they are adults, we’re talking about kids and how the system is affecting development and chances to reach that “higher” level

The age cutoff isn't the reason kids are on 2nd and 3rd teams today
It won't be the reason tomorrow

The majority of development responsibilities for youth is on the kids and parents
The system has its faults, but it's not responsible

Sure. That’s why 1st teams usually consist of the bigger kids with Q1 and Q2 birthdays

Yeah yeah yeah... we all know relative age effect has a presence
That's not the context of this discussion

And since you mentioned that, Q1 and Q4 in SY will be shifted

It is relative because MLSN is now screwing the aug-dec (RAE) kids by making MLSN1 BY and MLSN2 SY. RAE kids will not have a change at this point. They could either play down with the MLSN2 teams or play up with the MLSN2 team where there will even be older kids.

You cant choose to play down an age group

Given the changes in MLSN2 from current BY to SY, aug-dec birthday kids WILL play down, but if they want to play up they can they would have to play with even OLDER kids, in the older MLSN2 team. good luck with that...

They can't play down.

They will be eligible to play on a younger year B team or an older year A team. So playing down or playing up depending on where they go/where the club puts them. What’s so confusing? This makes perfect sense.

No, they have rules against playing down.

Joke all you want but this is a legit reason for aug-dec parents to be concerned if you were on the MLSN track. This isn’t disappointment that your kid is still a q4.

If you are a aug-dec boy you were never on a real MLSN academy track so no disappointment.

[Anonymous]

Chill if the kid can ball they will get the call.

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Anonymous wrote:Let me get this straight, 2 years ago parents were fine kidwith their kid playing in NAL
This year they're fine with NAL becoming MLSN2

Next year they're going to run to ECNL because MLSN2 is still MLSN2 with the same age cutoff as ECNL

Is that the working theory?

That’s the theory for August-December birthdays. This year, a u15 Aug-dec birthday is eligible for u15 mls1 or u15 mls2 team. Many stay for the hope of being moved from 2 to 1.

Next year, those birthdays will be eligible for u16 mls1 or u15 mls2. If they don’t make the mls1 team there is no hope of being moved up in the future because they are now playing an age group below.

Moving up is based on individual skills, talent and potential

No labels move you up or keep you back if the coaches see your individual quality, or lack thereof

That’s works for u15 B team to u15 A team. Moving from a u15 B team to a u16 A team is almost impossible.

You can go from NCSL to New York Red Bulls academy if you have the quality

If you're a solid B team player who isn't doing enough to elevate your skills then wishing to be moved up just because you're in line is waiting for fools gold

Entitlement curse

Prior to this change they didn’t have to skip an age group to move up. They just had to move from a lower level team to a higher level team. Now they need to skip an age group to move from a lower level team to a higher level team. That’s a concerning position.

Isn't everyone in the same age group with people their age when the dust settles?

It's about talent groups not age groups at the highest levels
Everyone gets a medal and trophy days are done

Yes once they are adults, we’re talking about kids and how the system is affecting development and chances to reach that “higher” level

The age cutoff isn't the reason kids are on 2nd and 3rd teams today
It won't be the reason tomorrow

The majority of development responsibilities for youth is on the kids and parents
The system has its faults, but it's not responsible

Sure. That’s why 1st teams usually consist of the bigger kids with Q1 and Q2 birthdays

Yeah yeah yeah... we all know relative age effect has a presence
That's not the context of this discussion

And since you mentioned that, Q1 and Q4 in SY will be shifted

It is relative because MLSN is now screwing the aug-dec (RAE) kids by making MLSN1 BY and MLSN2 SY. RAE kids will not have a change at this point. They could either play down with the MLSN2 teams or play up with the MLSN2 team where there will even be older kids.

You cant choose to play down an age group

Given the changes in MLSN2 from current BY to SY, aug-dec birthday kids WILL play down, but if they want to play up they can they would have to play with even OLDER kids, in the older MLSN2 team. good luck with that...

Stupid comment

You play down if your league cutoff designates you a U15 but you're playing U14

If SY cutoff makes you U15 being born in September and everyone born in September is also U15, how are you playing down?

By playing down he means kids aug-dec birthday kids play down, in other words repeat their current age group. If you're U15 right now and play in the MLSN2 team and will stay in the MLSN2 team next year (which most will) you will play U15 again, which is essentially means playing down

There's no essentially

The kid will be playing On Age in the new system

There is no “on age” in the new MLSN system.

Really?
What's Aug 1 - July 31?

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Anonymous wrote:Let me get this straight, 2 years ago parents were fine kidwith their kid playing in NAL
This year they're fine with NAL becoming MLSN2

Next year they're going to run to ECNL because MLSN2 is still MLSN2 with the same age cutoff as ECNL

Is that the working theory?

That’s the theory for August-December birthdays. This year, a u15 Aug-dec birthday is eligible for u15 mls1 or u15 mls2 team. Many stay for the hope of being moved from 2 to 1.

Next year, those birthdays will be eligible for u16 mls1 or u15 mls2. If they don’t make the mls1 team there is no hope of being moved up in the future because they are now playing an age group below.

Moving up is based on individual skills, talent and potential

No labels move you up or keep you back if the coaches see your individual quality, or lack thereof

That’s works for u15 B team to u15 A team. Moving from a u15 B team to a u16 A team is almost impossible.

You can go from NCSL to New York Red Bulls academy if you have the quality

If you're a solid B team player who isn't doing enough to elevate your skills then wishing to be moved up just because you're in line is waiting for fools gold

Entitlement curse

Prior to this change they didn’t have to skip an age group to move up. They just had to move from a lower level team to a higher level team. Now they need to skip an age group to move from a lower level team to a higher level team. That’s a concerning position.

Isn't everyone in the same age group with people their age when the dust settles?

It's about talent groups not age groups at the highest levels
Everyone gets a medal and trophy days are done

Yes once they are adults, we’re talking about kids and how the system is affecting development and chances to reach that “higher” level

The age cutoff isn't the reason kids are on 2nd and 3rd teams today
It won't be the reason tomorrow

The majority of development responsibilities for youth is on the kids and parents
The system has its faults, but it's not responsible

Sure. That’s why 1st teams usually consist of the bigger kids with Q1 and Q2 birthdays

Yeah yeah yeah... we all know relative age effect has a presence
That's not the context of this discussion

And since you mentioned that, Q1 and Q4 in SY will be shifted

It is relative because MLSN is now screwing the aug-dec (RAE) kids by making MLSN1 BY and MLSN2 SY. RAE kids will not have a change at this point. They could either play down with the MLSN2 teams or play up with the MLSN2 team where there will even be older kids.

You cant choose to play down an age group

Given the changes in MLSN2 from current BY to SY, aug-dec birthday kids WILL play down, but if they want to play up they can they would have to play with even OLDER kids, in the older MLSN2 team. good luck with that...

Stupid comment

You play down if your league cutoff designates you a U15 but you're playing U14

If SY cutoff makes you U15 being born in September and everyone born in September is also U15, how are you playing down?

By playing down he means kids aug-dec birthday kids play down, in other words repeat their current age group. If you're U15 right now and play in the MLSN2 team and will stay in the MLSN2 team next year (which most will) you will play U15 again, which is essentially means playing down

There's no essentially

The kid will be playing On Age in the new system

There is no “on age” in the new MLSN system.

Really?
What's Aug 1 - July 31?

Also Jan 1 - Dec 31

And August-December birthdays straddle both.

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Anonymous wrote:Let me get this straight, 2 years ago parents were fine kidwith their kid playing in NAL
This year they're fine with NAL becoming MLSN2

Next year they're going to run to ECNL because MLSN2 is still MLSN2 with the same age cutoff as ECNL

Is that the working theory?

That’s the theory for August-December birthdays. This year, a u15 Aug-dec birthday is eligible for u15 mls1 or u15 mls2 team. Many stay for the hope of being moved from 2 to 1.

Next year, those birthdays will be eligible for u16 mls1 or u15 mls2. If they don’t make the mls1 team there is no hope of being moved up in the future because they are now playing an age group below.

Moving up is based on individual skills, talent and potential

No labels move you up or keep you back if the coaches see your individual quality, or lack thereof

That’s works for u15 B team to u15 A team. Moving from a u15 B team to a u16 A team is almost impossible.

You can go from NCSL to New York Red Bulls academy if you have the quality

If you're a solid B team player who isn't doing enough to elevate your skills then wishing to be moved up just because you're in line is waiting for fools gold

Entitlement curse

Prior to this change they didn’t have to skip an age group to move up. They just had to move from a lower level team to a higher level team. Now they need to skip an age group to move from a lower level team to a higher level team. That’s a concerning position.

Isn't everyone in the same age group with people their age when the dust settles?

It's about talent groups not age groups at the highest levels
Everyone gets a medal and trophy days are done

Yes once they are adults, we’re talking about kids and how the system is affecting development and chances to reach that “higher” level

The age cutoff isn't the reason kids are on 2nd and 3rd teams today
It won't be the reason tomorrow

The majority of development responsibilities for youth is on the kids and parents
The system has its faults, but it's not responsible

Sure. That’s why 1st teams usually consist of the bigger kids with Q1 and Q2 birthdays

Yeah yeah yeah... we all know relative age effect has a presence
That's not the context of this discussion

And since you mentioned that, Q1 and Q4 in SY will be shifted

It is relative because MLSN is now screwing the aug-dec (RAE) kids by making MLSN1 BY and MLSN2 SY. RAE kids will not have a change at this point. They could either play down with the MLSN2 teams or play up with the MLSN2 team where there will even be older kids.

You cant choose to play down an age group

Given the changes in MLSN2 from current BY to SY, aug-dec birthday kids WILL play down, but if they want to play up they can they would have to play with even OLDER kids, in the older MLSN2 team. good luck with that...

They can't play down.

They will be eligible to play on a younger year B team or an older year A team. So playing down or playing up depending on where they go/where the club puts them. What’s so confusing? This makes perfect sense.

No, they have rules against playing down.

Joke all you want but this is a legit reason for aug-dec parents to be concerned if you were on the MLSN track. This isn’t disappointment that your kid is still a q4.

If you are a aug-dec boy you were never on a real MLSN academy track so no disappointment.

There are no kids born Aug-Dec at MLS club academies? Or kids playing up?

That's surprising

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Anonymous wrote:Let me get this straight, 2 years ago parents were fine kidwith their kid playing in NAL
This year they're fine with NAL becoming MLSN2

Next year they're going to run to ECNL because MLSN2 is still MLSN2 with the same age cutoff as ECNL

Is that the working theory?

That’s the theory for August-December birthdays. This year, a u15 Aug-dec birthday is eligible for u15 mls1 or u15 mls2 team. Many stay for the hope of being moved from 2 to 1.

Next year, those birthdays will be eligible for u16 mls1 or u15 mls2. If they don’t make the mls1 team there is no hope of being moved up in the future because they are now playing an age group below.

Moving up is based on individual skills, talent and potential

No labels move you up or keep you back if the coaches see your individual quality, or lack thereof

That’s works for u15 B team to u15 A team. Moving from a u15 B team to a u16 A team is almost impossible.

You can go from NCSL to New York Red Bulls academy if you have the quality

If you're a solid B team player who isn't doing enough to elevate your skills then wishing to be moved up just because you're in line is waiting for fools gold

Entitlement curse

Prior to this change they didn’t have to skip an age group to move up. They just had to move from a lower level team to a higher level team. Now they need to skip an age group to move from a lower level team to a higher level team. That’s a concerning position.

Isn't everyone in the same age group with people their age when the dust settles?

It's about talent groups not age groups at the highest levels
Everyone gets a medal and trophy days are done

Yes once they are adults, we’re talking about kids and how the system is affecting development and chances to reach that “higher” level

The age cutoff isn't the reason kids are on 2nd and 3rd teams today
It won't be the reason tomorrow

The majority of development responsibilities for youth is on the kids and parents
The system has its faults, but it's not responsible

Sure. That’s why 1st teams usually consist of the bigger kids with Q1 and Q2 birthdays

Yeah yeah yeah... we all know relative age effect has a presence
That's not the context of this discussion

And since you mentioned that, Q1 and Q4 in SY will be shifted

It is relative because MLSN is now screwing the aug-dec (RAE) kids by making MLSN1 BY and MLSN2 SY. RAE kids will not have a change at this point. They could either play down with the MLSN2 teams or play up with the MLSN2 team where there will even be older kids.

You cant choose to play down an age group

Given the changes in MLSN2 from current BY to SY, aug-dec birthday kids WILL play down, but if they want to play up they can they would have to play with even OLDER kids, in the older MLSN2 team. good luck with that...

Stupid comment

You play down if your league cutoff designates you a U15 but you're playing U14

If SY cutoff makes you U15 being born in September and everyone born in September is also U15, how are you playing down?

By playing down he means kids aug-dec birthday kids play down, in other words repeat their current age group. If you're U15 right now and play in the MLSN2 team and will stay in the MLSN2 team next year (which most will) you will play U15 again, which is essentially means playing down

There's no essentially

The kid will be playing On Age in the new system

There is no “on age” in the new MLSN system.

Really?
What's Aug 1 - July 31?

Also Jan 1 - Dec 31

And August-December birthdays straddle both.

You're in one league or the other
Aint no straddling going on

If you do switch, just play where your birth month puts you. Pretty simple.

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Anonymous wrote:Let me get this straight, 2 years ago parents were fine with their kid playing in NAL
This year they're fine with NAL becoming MLSN2

Next year they're going to run to ECNL because MLSN2 is still MLSN2 with the same age cutoff as ECNL

Is that the working theory?

That’s the theory for August-December birthdays. This year, a u15 Aug-dec birthday is eligible for u15 mls1 or u15 mls2 team. Many stay for the hope of being moved from 2 to 1.

Next year, those birthdays will be eligible for u16 mls1 or u15 mls2. If they don’t make the mls1 team there is no hope of being moved up in the future because they are now playing an age group below.

Moving up is based on individual skills, talent and potential

No labels move you up or keep you back if the coaches see your individual quality, or lack thereof

That’s works for u15 B team to u15 A team. Moving from a u15 B team to a u16 A team is almost impossible.

You can go from NCSL to New York Red Bulls academy if you have the quality

If you're a solid B team player who isn't doing enough to elevate your skills then wishing to be moved up just because you're in line is waiting for fools gold

Entitlement curse

Prior to this change they didn’t have to skip an age group to move up. They just had to move from a lower level team to a higher level team. Now they need to skip an age group to move from a lower level team to a higher level team. That’s a concerning position.

Isn't everyone in the same age group with people their age when the dust settles?

It's about talent groups not age groups at the highest levels
Everyone gets a medal and trophy days are done

Yes once they are adults, we’re talking about kids and how the system is affecting development and chances to reach that “higher” level

The age cutoff isn't the reason kids are on 2nd and 3rd teams today
It won't be the reason tomorrow

The majority of development responsibilities for youth is on the kids and parents
The system has its faults, but it's not responsible

Partly agree. If kids are not putting in the work it’s going to be rare with age change to go up from team 2 to 1.

But a kid who’s mid pack or bottom of their current top team with Aug to Dec bday will definitely move up one notch.

Just my life example but I watch the 2011s practice with my kids 2012 team during high school season they are all sub level players mostly and all 5 would be starters and arguably best players on my kids team.

To think no shake up is coming would be arrogant and ignorant.

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Anonymous wrote:Let me get this straight, 2 years ago parents were fine with their kid playing in NAL
This year they're fine with NAL becoming MLSN2

Next year they're going to run to ECNL because MLSN2 is still MLSN2 with the same age cutoff as ECNL

Is that the working theory?

That’s the theory for August-December birthdays. This year, a u15 Aug-dec birthday is eligible for u15 mls1 or u15 mls2 team. Many stay for the hope of being moved from 2 to 1.

Next year, those birthdays will be eligible for u16 mls1 or u15 mls2. If they don’t make the mls1 team there is no hope of being moved up in the future because they are now playing an age group below.

Moving up is based on individual skills, talent and potential

No labels move you up or keep you back if the coaches see your individual quality, or lack thereof

That’s works for u15 B team to u15 A team. Moving from a u15 B team to a u16 A team is almost impossible.

You can go from NCSL to New York Red Bulls academy if you have the quality

If you're a solid B team player who isn't doing enough to elevate your skills then wishing to be moved up just because you're in line is waiting for fools gold

Entitlement curse

Prior to this change they didn’t have to skip an age group to move up. They just had to move from a lower level team to a higher level team. Now they need to skip an age group to move from a lower level team to a higher level team. That’s a concerning position.

Isn't everyone in the same age group with people their age when the dust settles?

It's about talent groups not age groups at the highest levels
Everyone gets a medal and trophy days are done

Yes once they are adults, we’re talking about kids and how the system is affecting development and chances to reach that “higher” level

The age cutoff isn't the reason kids are on 2nd and 3rd teams today
It won't be the reason tomorrow

The majority of development responsibilities for youth is on the kids and parents
The system has its faults, but it's not responsible

Partly agree. If kids are not putting in the work it’s going to be rare with age change to go up from team 2 to 1.

But a kid who’s mid pack or bottom of their current top team with Aug to Dec bday will definitely move up one notch.

Just my life example but I watch the 2011s practice with my kids 2012 team during high school season they are all sub level players mostly and all 5 would be starters and arguably best players on my kids team.

To think no shake up is coming would be arrogant and ignorant.

This exactly. It’s what happens with MLS 1 biobands too when they play down.