New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your not from greater Atlanta, who cares?

Additions to ECNL

this is an interesting comment ... why does this matter? If you don't play in Atl area or in that conference, why does it matter? How does this help your DD team? It obviously would give ECNL 10 more D1 recruits to claim - but how does it help? It helps the marketing of ECNL. It helps the total D1 recruits go up. It maybe helps some of the top clubs getting a little more competitive game, but it doesn't help the middle of ECNL. It doesn't help the bottom at all.

Say the end up in the Southeast conference. Lets take the 2009 age group as they are the current recruiting class. The conference already has 16 clubs. So they go 17? Clubs 10-16 have a negative GD. So adding Top Hat just makes those teams have another loss. If you are going to say Top Hat can't beat teams 10-16 in that conference then either you have no concept of youth soccer or I don't. I don't see Top Hat losing to any of those teams.

Top Hat probably finishes in Top 5 in that Conference - likely Top 3.

Top Hat just pushes another team down the standings, pushes another team down the showcase. It does little to ECNL to make it that much better. The main thing it does is add 10 D1 commits a year to the ECNL count and honestly, that is all that matters to ECNL and their marketing.

They could care less if the team is good or bad or average - they want to know how many kids go to college. and they don't even care once they get to college if they finish, transfer to another school or quit. They want the commit, they want the social media post, they want the money.

On the same level, the other leagues want the same thing. But they don't push the FOMO as much as ECNL does.

I think there is more to it.

It would give Florida their own conference and open up space for a couple of additions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your not from greater Atlanta, who cares?

Additions to ECNL

this is an interesting comment ... why does this matter? If you don't play in Atl area or in that conference, why does it matter? How does this help your DD team? It obviously would give ECNL 10 more D1 recruits to claim - but how does it help? It helps the marketing of ECNL. It helps the total D1 recruits go up. It maybe helps some of the top clubs getting a little more competitive game, but it doesn't help the middle of ECNL. It doesn't help the bottom at all.

Say the end up in the Southeast conference. Lets take the 2009 age group as they are the current recruiting class. The conference already has 16 clubs. So they go 17? Clubs 10-16 have a negative GD. So adding Top Hat just makes those teams have another loss. If you are going to say Top Hat can't beat teams 10-16 in that conference then either you have no concept of youth soccer or I don't. I don't see Top Hat losing to any of those teams.

Top Hat probably finishes in Top 5 in that Conference - likely Top 3.

Top Hat just pushes another team down the standings, pushes another team down the showcase. It does little to ECNL to make it that much better. The main thing it does is add 10 D1 commits a year to the ECNL count and honestly, that is all that matters to ECNL and their marketing.

They could care less if the team is good or bad or average - they want to know how many kids go to college. and they don't even care once they get to college if they finish, transfer to another school or quit. They want the commit, they want the social media post, they want the money.

On the same level, the other leagues want the same thing. But they don't push the FOMO as much as ECNL does.

Check the name of this specific forum. You might be lost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your not from greater Atlanta, who cares?

its a big deal if you know the history of tophat/da/ga/ecnl and even if you are another ga club from another part of the country as well. it shows the obvious decline of the ga which is obvious. top teams leaving and average to below average aspire teams are being promoted to ga.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL does not push FOMO as you keep harping on. Parents (maybe coaches?) do, because they want their kids in the "TOP" league. We need that one singular pyramid ASAP.

100% we need one pyramid ... but if you don't think ECNL doesn't push FOMO you can't be looking at anything ECNL has their clubs put out.

ECNL doesn’t push fomo the clubs and families definitely do. But ECNL has never said anything bad about other organizations. Them stating they’re the best doesn’t mean you should be offended because it hurts your feelings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your not from greater Atlanta, who cares?

its a big deal if you know the history of tophat/da/ga/ecnl and even if you are another ga club from another part of the country as well. it shows the obvious decline of the ga which is obvious. top teams leaving and average to below average aspire teams are being promoted to ga.

We don’t know who is leaving yet, so let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

That said, if it turns out to be who everyone is suggesting, it would be a huge blow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your not from greater Atlanta, who cares?

its a big deal if you know the history of tophat/da/ga/ecnl and even if you are another ga club from another part of the country as well. it shows the obvious decline of the ga which is obvious. top teams leaving and average to below average aspire teams are being promoted to ga.

We don’t know who is leaving yet, so let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

That said, if it turns out to be who everyone is suggesting, it would be a huge blow.

TOPHAT would rather have MLS Next, any noise for them will be a negotiating tool to get that for the boys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your not from greater Atlanta, who cares?

its a big deal if you know the history of tophat/da/ga/ecnl and even if you are another ga club from another part of the country as well. it shows the obvious decline of the ga which is obvious. top teams leaving and average to below average aspire teams are being promoted to ga.

We don’t know who is leaving yet, so let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

That said, if it turns out to be who everyone is suggesting, it would be a huge blow.

TOPHAT would rather have MLS Next, any noise for them will be a negotiating tool to get that for the boys.

sure. that's why they have been begging ECNL girls to let them in for the last 5 years since da went bankrupt

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your not from greater Atlanta, who cares?

its a big deal if you know the history of tophat/da/ga/ecnl and even if you are another ga club from another part of the country as well. it shows the obvious decline of the ga which is obvious. top teams leaving and average to below average aspire teams are being promoted to ga.

We don’t know who is leaving yet, so let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

That said, if it turns out to be who everyone is suggesting, it would be a huge blow.

TOPHAT would rather have MLS Next, any noise for them will be a negotiating tool to get that for the boys.

Its interesting that TH doesnt already have MLSN.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your not from greater Atlanta, who cares?

its a big deal if you know the history of tophat/da/ga/ecnl and even if you are another ga club from another part of the country as well. it shows the obvious decline of the ga which is obvious. top teams leaving and average to below average aspire teams are being promoted to ga.

We don’t know who is leaving yet, so let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

That said, if it turns out to be who everyone is suggesting, it would be a huge blow.

TOPHAT would rather have MLS Next, any noise for them will be a negotiating tool to get that for the boys.

Why would MLSN care about them leaving Ga. News flash they wouldn’t. Otherwise they would have let them in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your not from greater Atlanta, who cares?

its a big deal if you know the history of tophat/da/ga/ecnl and even if you are another ga club from another part of the country as well. it shows the obvious decline of the ga which is obvious. top teams leaving and average to below average aspire teams are being promoted to ga.

We don’t know who is leaving yet, so let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

That said, if it turns out to be who everyone is suggesting, it would be a huge blow.

TOPHAT would rather have MLS Next, any noise for them will be a negotiating tool to get that for the boys.

Why would MLSN care about them leaving Ga. News flash they wouldn’t. Otherwise they would have let them in.

They will care, GA is a partner. If they call in a favor to them MLSN will listen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your not from greater Atlanta, who cares?

its a big deal if you know the history of tophat/da/ga/ecnl and even if you are another ga club from another part of the country as well. it shows the obvious decline of the ga which is obvious. top teams leaving and average to below average aspire teams are being promoted to ga.

We don’t know who is leaving yet, so let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

That said, if it turns out to be who everyone is suggesting, it would be a huge blow.

They can’t afford to lose any of their champions league teams. They don’t have enough good teams/clubs joining to make up for it.

If their partnership with MLSN meant anything MLSN would step in and help them out but it’s all for show.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your not from greater Atlanta, who cares?

its a big deal if you know the history of tophat/da/ga/ecnl and even if you are another ga club from another part of the country as well. it shows the obvious decline of the ga which is obvious. top teams leaving and average to below average aspire teams are being promoted to ga.

We don’t know who is leaving yet, so let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

That said, if it turns out to be who everyone is suggesting, it would be a huge blow.

TOPHAT would rather have MLS Next, any noise for them will be a negotiating tool to get that for the boys.

sure. that's why they have been begging ECNL girls to let them in for the last 5 years since da went bankrupt

begging for two teams instead of one.

[Anonymous]

GA just added another good club

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your not from greater Atlanta, who cares?

its a big deal if you know the history of tophat/da/ga/ecnl and even if you are another ga club from another part of the country as well. it shows the obvious decline of the ga which is obvious. top teams leaving and average to below average aspire teams are being promoted to ga.

We don’t know who is leaving yet, so let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

That said, if it turns out to be who everyone is suggesting, it would be a huge blow.

TOPHAT would rather have MLS Next, any noise for them will be a negotiating tool to get that for the boys.

Its interesting that TH doesnt already have MLSN.

The 4 to 5 other teams in their immediate area is what's keeping them out of MLSN

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your not from greater Atlanta, who cares?

its a big deal if you know the history of tophat/da/ga/ecnl and even if you are another ga club from another part of the country as well. it shows the obvious decline of the ga which is obvious. top teams leaving and average to below average aspire teams are being promoted to ga.

We don’t know who is leaving yet, so let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

That said, if it turns out to be who everyone is suggesting, it would be a huge blow.

TOPHAT would rather have MLS Next, any noise for them will be a negotiating tool to get that for the boys.

Why would MLSN care about them leaving Ga. News flash they wouldn’t. Otherwise they would have let them in.

^^this^^ people think the relationship between mlsnext and ga is tighter than it actually is. ga is trying to use leverage that they don't have and giving the perception that the relationship is like mlsnext and ga are 1 entity.