CTCL schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is genuinely cultish how the CTCL pushers are trying to lionize Loren Pope into some all-knowing being in an attempt to legitimize their weird little group. He was a writer, which is great, but there are plenty of people who write about colleges and college admissions. He is Loren Pope, not the actual Pope.

Now you're just making stuff up. I've literally never seen anyone "try to lionize Loren Pope."

[Anonymous]

Start your own college guidebook and hope it catches on. Things stick for a reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Start your own college guidebook and hope it catches on. Things stick for a reason.

Yes because of desperate boosters who feel they need some contrived qualification to help them feel special

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Generally speaking CTCL graduation rates are nothing special. Catholic schools with similar caliber students tend to have higher freshman retention and graduation rates while also offering more practical majors and an equal sense of community. For example, everybody drools all over Juniata in Pennsylvania but both Jesuit schools in that state - St Joes and Scranton - have higher retention and graduation rates and also offer heavy discounts to good students. All the more reason why CTCL schools aren’t “special.”

Scranton is a CTCL.

Dp, no it is not

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Generally speaking CTCL graduation rates are nothing special. Catholic schools with similar caliber students tend to have higher freshman retention and graduation rates while also offering more practical majors and an equal sense of community. For example, everybody drools all over Juniata in Pennsylvania but both Jesuit schools in that state - St Joes and Scranton - have higher retention and graduation rates and also offer heavy discounts to good students. All the more reason why CTCL schools aren’t “special.”

Most Catholic schools are for a pretty niche audience and are often in worse financial situations than SLACS. More than 1/2 the faculty are adjuncts at St Joe's--which is atypical for LAC.

And CTCL schools aren’t for a “pretty niche audience?” That’s got to be news to anybody on this thread regardless of where they stand.

And way to cherry pick data that favors CTCL schools. The bottom line is that St Joe has better graduation rates and its students kick ass in the job market. Isn’t that what you want to look for when you have a B student? Who cares if they have more adjuncts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Start your own college guidebook and hope it catches on. Things stick for a reason.

Yes because of desperate boosters who feel they need some contrived qualification to help them feel special

Because not everyone is completely sold on the merits of the Ivy-or-bust grind, and they want to know about other approaches to a college search. They also want other ideas about what college is FOR. Is it just credential mining? Is it about becoming a better person? Is it about partying for 4 years? What's the point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Generally speaking CTCL graduation rates are nothing special. Catholic schools with similar caliber students tend to have higher freshman retention and graduation rates while also offering more practical majors and an equal sense of community. For example, everybody drools all over Juniata in Pennsylvania but both Jesuit schools in that state - St Joes and Scranton - have higher retention and graduation rates and also offer heavy discounts to good students. All the more reason why CTCL schools aren’t “special.”

Scranton is a CTCL.

No it isn’t. Look again.

[Anonymous]

I posted earlier here but I grew up in walking distance from U of Scranton’s campus and the town would not appeal to anyone who frequents DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Start your own college guidebook and hope it catches on. Things stick for a reason.

Yes because of desperate boosters who feel they need some contrived qualification to help them feel special

Because not everyone is completely sold on the merits of the Ivy-or-bust grind, and they want to know about other approaches to a college search. They also want other ideas about what college is FOR. Is it just credential mining? Is it about becoming a better person? Is it about partying for 4 years? What's the point?

Baloney. It’s because they know they’re not getting INTO the Ivies etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Generally speaking CTCL graduation rates are nothing special. Catholic schools with similar caliber students tend to have higher freshman retention and graduation rates while also offering more practical majors and an equal sense of community. For example, everybody drools all over Juniata in Pennsylvania but both Jesuit schools in that state - St Joes and Scranton - have higher retention and graduation rates and also offer heavy discounts to good students. All the more reason why CTCL schools aren’t “special.”

Most Catholic schools are for a pretty niche audience and are often in worse financial situations than SLACS. More than 1/2 the faculty are adjuncts at St Joe's--which is atypical for LAC.

And CTCL schools aren’t for a “pretty niche audience?” That’s got to be news to anybody on this thread regardless of where they stand.

And way to cherry pick data that favors CTCL schools. The bottom line is that St Joe has better graduation rates and its students kick ass in the job market. Isn’t that what you want to look for when you have a B student? Who cares if they have more adjuncts?

Kicks ass? Not really.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is genuinely cultish how the CTCL pushers are trying to lionize Loren Pope into some all-knowing being in an attempt to legitimize their weird little group. He was a writer, which is great, but there are plenty of people who write about colleges and college admissions. He is Loren Pope, not the actual Pope.

Now you're just making stuff up. I've literally never seen anyone "try to lionize Loren Pope."

+1. Nobody claims he's an "all-knowing being." But I will take advice from an NYT education reporter sooner than from random anonymous internet posters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I posted earlier here but I grew up in walking distance from U of Scranton’s campus and the town would not appeal to anyone who frequents DCUM.

Except DCUM posters do send kids there. Search this forum and you’ll see that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, people on DCUM bring up CTCL constantly ("I went to a CTCL") -- it's really a bit bizarre, acting as if it's a term that's actually used or even recognized.

Constantly? How many times in this nearly 40-page thread has a poster written "I went to a CTCL"? References?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Start your own college guidebook and hope it catches on. Things stick for a reason.

Yes because of desperate boosters who feel they need some contrived qualification to help them feel special

Because not everyone is completely sold on the merits of the Ivy-or-bust grind, and they want to know about other approaches to a college search. They also want other ideas about what college is FOR. Is it just credential mining? Is it about becoming a better person? Is it about partying for 4 years? What's the point?

Baloney. It’s because they know they’re not getting INTO the Ivies etc.

Not. everyone. wants. to. go. to. an. Ivy.

I got into Swarthmore and Carlton. Neither offered enough aid to make them worth it. Went to a CTCL instead. Graduated with 9K in debt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, people on DCUM bring up CTCL constantly ("I went to a CTCL") -- it's really a bit bizarre, acting as if it's a term that's actually used or even recognized.

Constantly? How many times in this nearly 40-page thread has a poster written "I went to a CTCL"? References?

LOL. Look at the comment right below yours.

You all are so oblivious.