LMVSC town hall

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We left this past season... we’re happy where we are now but I must admit we’re happy to be away from drama. We do love our community, but there is a big problem with the program. Regardless, we’re still in our community so it’s not like we feel out of place now.


there’s a big problem with your new club? or you mean lee mt vernon?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We left this past season... we’re happy where we are now but I must admit we’re happy to be away from drama. We do love our community, but there is a big problem with the program. Regardless, we’re still in our community so it’s not like we feel out of place now.


there’s a big problem with your new club? or you mean lee mt vernon?


New club is excellent (and we’re still in Alexandria if you catch my drift). The “problem” I was referring to was LMVSC’s problems in their program.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We left this past season... we’re happy where we are now but I must admit we’re happy to be away from drama. We do love our community, but there is a big problem with the program. Regardless, we’re still in our community so it’s not like we feel out of place now.


there’s a big problem with your new club? or you mean lee mt vernon?


New club is excellent (and we’re still in Alexandria if you catch my drift). The “problem” I was referring to was LMVSC’s problems in their program.


well great for you, why don’t you stay there and leave the thread to doesn’t involve your ckub!?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We left this past season... we’re happy where we are now but I must admit we’re happy to be away from drama. We do love our community, but there is a big problem with the program. Regardless, we’re still in our community so it’s not like we feel out of place now.


there’s a big problem with your new club? or you mean lee mt vernon?


New club is excellent (and we’re still in Alexandria if you catch my drift). The “problem” I was referring to was LMVSC’s problems in their program.


well great for you, why don’t you stay there and leave the thread to doesn’t involve your ckub!?


Wow. Well, I’m sure plenty are in attendance.
Anonymous
PP here. I mean ‘staying there’ of course lol
Anonymous
My child is now a HS senior. Started playing rec soccer in elementary school, moved to travel, then made A teams for NCSL, CCL, and NPL.

Maybe 6 clubs is too small a sample size.

What I can share from playing for new or long-established VA clubs, there's very little difference (looking in the rear view mirror) between or among them.

Newer clubs get poor field selections for practice and to get into the bigger tournaments (JeffCup, Delco) they must play in as many other tournaments as possible to earn GotSoccer points. IMO, development does not occur just in matches. Practice like you play, and play like you practice.

The larger clubs provide the infrastructure. They also draw the most interest (demand v supply) and yield the least (take it or leave it.) If you do not make the A team, you tend to get subpar coaching and training as the big clubs tend to overemphasize their A teams. (And why not?)

Starting over, I still think finding a local club, one that requires as little driving as possible given DMV traffic, and good/great coaching are key requirements.

Sure, you can haul your child across the Potomac to practice and train. Doing so though can impact family time and academics, plus your child will unlikely establish meaningful friendships with teammates given the distance.

The coach, at least to me, is far more important day in and day out than the club...and, yes, I get without the club there is no coach.

My child will (fingers crossed) play collegiate soccer. Got real interest from D2 & D3 programs, with an outside chance of playing for a small D1 school. You know, one that flies under the radar.

For my child, this works!

And if it works for my kid, it definitely works for me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My child is now a HS senior. Started playing rec soccer in elementary school, moved to travel, then made A teams for NCSL, CCL, and NPL.

Maybe 6 clubs is too small a sample size.

What I can share from playing for new or long-established VA clubs, there's very little difference (looking in the rear view mirror) between or among them.

Newer clubs get poor field selections for practice and to get into the bigger tournaments (JeffCup, Delco) they must play in as many other tournaments as possible to earn GotSoccer points. IMO, development does not occur just in matches. Practice like you play, and play like you practice.

The larger clubs provide the infrastructure. They also draw the most interest (demand v supply) and yield the least (take it or leave it.) If you do not make the A team, you tend to get subpar coaching and training as the big clubs tend to overemphasize their A teams. (And why not?)

Starting over, I still think finding a local club, one that requires as little driving as possible given DMV traffic, and good/great coaching are key requirements.

Sure, you can haul your child across the Potomac to practice and train. Doing so though can impact family time and academics, plus your child will unlikely establish meaningful friendships with teammates given the distance.

The coach, at least to me, is far more important day in and day out than the club...and, yes, I get without the club there is no coach.

My child will (fingers crossed) play collegiate soccer. Got real interest from D2 & D3 programs, with an outside chance of playing for a small D1 school. You know, one that flies under the radar.

For my child, this works!

And if it works for my kid, it definitely works for me.


I think there’s a lot of truth to your position in general. Many of us are not happy, because the club has applied a broad sword approach (academy) when it really only benefits 1 or 2 teams (and their coach is a director). Many of us are not happy because the club continually also says one thing and does another.

There’s nothing which is indicative, from my take, that LMVSC is doing all they can. At this point it feels they just want my money. Some are plenty happy, but if you look at the records something is wrong: either we’re in the wrong leagues (CCL), coaches aren’t good, or players aren’t that into it. If you look At how many players keep leaving, that supports one of the previously mentioned.
Anonymous
If you're a player on a team that never wins and you're the least bit competitive, do you either stay or go to a team that wins in that league if you're good enough, or a team that competes successfully in a lower league if you're not? Leaving and playing for a team with a chance seems like the better choice
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you're a player on a team that never wins and you're the least bit competitive, do you either stay or go to a team that wins in that league if you're good enough, or a team that competes successfully in a lower league if you're not? Leaving and playing for a team with a chance seems like the better choice


Plenty of variables, so it depends. As a previous player, I need to be in the environment best for me (dedicated players, competitive, everybody improving and trying to improve). As a parent of a player, I have same thinking but more: is the program credible? Is the program sustainable? What are they doing and why?

I listen to DC’s wants, but I also look at it objectively. If I had U8, yeah doesn’t matter to much so long as my kid has the ball a lot. But my DS is a little older, so we’ve left for more sustainable pastures. If DD played, we definitely would have left. I can see what the program is for girl players and I would never settle.
Anonymous
DD is older, and yes I would be worried had we stayed. There’s 25 or so girls at training, from all of 2006 to 2002. I understand it’s summer, some girls are vacationing and some avoiding COVID. But if there’s only one team per age group with 18 per team, I’d expect to see 72 players. 25 are showing up. That’s not good.

I was confused as to why there were questions of concern regarding “if there will be an 03 team” “if there will be an 04 team”. No I don’t know if there will be 03 team, 04 team, 06 team, etc. Somebody previously said they’ll mix 03 and 04, 04 and 05, and then white 05 into red 05. This would take away LB’s team so I’d expect to see her a lot more around HS girls regardless.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DD is older, and yes I would be worried had we stayed. There’s 25 or so girls at training, from all of 2006 to 2002. I understand it’s summer, some girls are vacationing and some avoiding COVID. But if there’s only one team per age group with 18 per team, I’d expect to see 72 players. 25 are showing up. That’s not good.

I was confused as to why there were questions of concern regarding “if there will be an 03 team” “if there will be an 04 team”. No I don’t know if there will be 03 team, 04 team, 06 team, etc. Somebody previously said they’ll mix 03 and 04, 04 and 05, and then white 05 into red 05. This would take away LB’s team so I’d expect to see her a lot more around HS girls regardless.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DD is older, and yes I would be worried had we stayed. There’s 25 or so girls at training, from all of 2006 to 2002. I understand it’s summer, some girls are vacationing and some avoiding COVID. But if there’s only one team per age group with 18 per team, I’d expect to see 72 players. 25 are showing up. That’s not good.

I was confused as to why there were questions of concern regarding “if there will be an 03 team” “if there will be an 04 team”. No I don’t know if there will be 03 team, 04 team, 06 team, etc. Somebody previously said they’ll mix 03 and 04, 04 and 05, and then white 05 into red 05. This would take away LB’s team so I’d expect to see her a lot more around HS girls regardless.


woah woah woah. i thought their social media posts were alluding to their training being like, one age group. i didn't realize there were so few on the 11v11 side of girls soccer.
Anonymous
I don’t know why there are “shocked” reactions. It’s been headed this way since last tryout season. What did they learn over the course of a year? Nothing. I surely didn’t need to stick around to see if they learned, which clearly they haven’t.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why there are “shocked” reactions. It’s been headed this way since last tryout season. What did they learn over the course of a year? Nothing. I surely didn’t need to stick around to see if they learned, which clearly they haven’t.


It’ll be a lot more evident now that we’re going to begin Phase 3 practices. We just reached out for tryouts at other clubs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why there are “shocked” reactions. It’s been headed this way since last tryout season. What did they learn over the course of a year? Nothing. I surely didn’t need to stick around to see if they learned, which clearly they haven’t.


It’ll be a lot more evident now that we’re going to begin Phase 3 practices. We just reached out for tryouts at other clubs.


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