Where are all you families of high performing students planning on moving to?

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Anonymous wrote:The county would at least be a kinder place with few segregationists.

Yep. They all can move to NoVa or HoCo

Brain Drain

Correction brainless

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this panic all from the county THINKING about putting "poors" in your precious schools?

Don't forget the Jubilation from the DCC who think they might get to offload some of their poors on the hated Ws. A twofer, what could be better

Yes there is some of a realestate bump from not having to go to school with poor kids, but FYI most of the bump is having to live near them and that isn't going away no matter how MoCo schools mixes their boarders.

Posters on DCUM keep asserting that, and I don't understand, because I have seen no evidence of it. It seems like projection, to me.

Funny I see lots of “why should we have to shoulder all the burden”

I haven't seen that at all. NP.

I was just thinking the same. Have not heard that. And, I live down county.

[Anonymous]

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Let me let you in on a little secret. Not all As in fact have the same value within a class as they are weighted by a student’s SES. Signed MCPS teacher.

I'm wondering how you know the socioeconomic status of all of the students in your class. Do you give them a questionnaire about their parents' educational background and paid employment, annual household income, and household wealth?

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Anonymous wrote:Almost certainly won’t move. I went to lousy public schools and turned out fine. Motivated high-achieving students will do fine anywhere. Plus it’s good to go to diverse schools—helps you learn how to deal with people of different backgrounds and with different approaches to life.

If we moved anyplace, it would be DC, just for shorter commutes as we both work downtown.

My hard-working daughter kept asking why everyone around her received As - and why the majority of the school made honor roll.

We're in Frederick now.

I'm ok with that, you're ok with that - win-win.

very OK with that in all honesty

- former MCPS teacher with over 25 years in (huge cut in pay . . . And I'm fine with it.)

[Anonymous]

HOWARD.

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We are in MCPS magnet.

This is my order of preference for non-magnet, non lottery, average public schools with <20% FARMS. Purely anecdotal and informed by the academic capabilities of students we know.

Howard
MCPS
FCPS
DCPS
Frederick
Pr. George's

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Almost certainly won’t move. I went to lousy public schools and turned out fine. Motivated high-achieving students will do fine anywhere. Plus it’s good to go to diverse schools—helps you learn how to deal with people of different backgrounds and with different approaches to life.

If we moved anyplace, it would be DC, just for shorter commutes as we both work downtown.

My hard-working daughter kept asking why everyone around her received As - and why the majority of the school made honor roll.

We're in Frederick now.

So your DD worked hard but couldn't get straight As but everyone else around her were getting As? Maybe she needed to work harder? Maybe there are lots of fairly smart kids in the school?

No, she did get straight As, but so did everyone else around her. She works hard. We moved. She is working harder to maintain her As. She's on a three-year plan to graduate from high school.

She's working PT, keeping up her grades, and is very involved in music.

Let me fill you in on a little secret: When you eliminate the 50% rule and put the onus on the student so that re-teaching and re-assessing are not necessary, children will rise to meet the expectations. That means an A TRULY stands for high academic achievement.

Unfortunately, we tend to judge others when we know very little about their own experiences. I am an expert in education after being in the field for over 25 years. When you can no longer maintain integrity, it's time to move out or move into a place where instruction is still rigorous.

So the fighting on these threads is useless. Some parents will continue to defend the system b/c they don't know any better. Others will leave for another system or head toward private.

So it's a win-win for all, right? You do you, and I'll do me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are in MCPS magnet.

This is my order of preference for non-magnet, non lottery, average public schools with <20% FARMS. Purely anecdotal and informed by the academic capabilities of students we know.

Howard
MCPS
FCPS
DCPS
Frederick
Pr. George's

I am assuming that we mean DMV area and not MoCo or MD only.

[Anonymous]

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No, she did get straight As, but so did everyone else around her. She works hard. We moved. She is working harder to maintain her As. She's on a three-year plan to graduate from high school.

She's working PT, keeping up her grades, and is very involved in music.

Let me fill you in on a little secret: When you eliminate the 50% rule and put the onus on the student so that re-teaching and re-assessing are not necessary, children will rise to meet the expectations. That means an A TRULY stands for high academic achievement.

Unfortunately, we tend to judge others when we know very little about their own experiences. I am an expert in education after being in the field for over 25 years. When you can no longer maintain integrity, it's time to move out or move into a place where instruction is still rigorous.

So the fighting on these threads is useless. Some parents will continue to defend the system b/c they don't know any better. Others will leave for another system or head toward private.

So it's a win-win for all, right? You do you, and I'll do me.

If I were school administrators, and my job performance would be largely judged by how well (test scores I suppose?) students perform, what would I do?
If I could, I might choose to prevent those bad apples from entering the school. Unfortunately, I could not.

And I know no matter what I do, some of these students simply will not put more effort in studying.

Then the natural choice, would be to give everyone better grades. That may not increase their SAT or MAPS, but at least it will make their GPA look better.

That, is a win-win for all.

We know what the problems are, there is simply no solution.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

No, she did get straight As, but so did everyone else around her. She works hard. We moved. She is working harder to maintain her As. She's on a three-year plan to graduate from high school.

She's working PT, keeping up her grades, and is very involved in music.

Let me fill you in on a little secret: When you eliminate the 50% rule and put the onus on the student so that re-teaching and re-assessing are not necessary, children will rise to meet the expectations. That means an A TRULY stands for high academic achievement.

Unfortunately, we tend to judge others when we know very little about their own experiences. I am an expert in education after being in the field for over 25 years. When you can no longer maintain integrity, it's time to move out or move into a place where instruction is still rigorous.

So the fighting on these threads is useless. Some parents will continue to defend the system b/c they don't know any better. Others will leave for another system or head toward private.

So it's a win-win for all, right? You do you, and I'll do me.

If I were school administrators, and my job performance would be largely judged by how well (test scores I suppose?) students perform, what would I do?
If I could, I might choose to prevent those bad apples from entering the school. Unfortunately, I could not.

And I know no matter what I do, some of these students simply will not put more effort in studying.

Then the natural choice, would be to give everyone better grades. That may not increase their SAT or MAPS, but at least it will make their GPA look better.

That, is a win-win for all.

We know what the problems are, there is simply no solution.

you got halfway there school administrators are judged on the achievement gap

how do you do that ensure the top and bottom students get closer together

how do you do that eliminate tracking and try and groups students homogeneously across schools that second point is what this new policy does

ps if some high income folks leave the system that actually helps you towards your goal

[Anonymous]

I wish all Principals in MCPS had the choice to prevent students with discipline problem coming to their schools, and they could remove the 10 students with discipline problems from their schools as well.

Either MCPS made other arrangements to take care of these students, or provided additional staffing resources etc. Parents would need to pay a mandatory fees if their students needed more than 2 years of these services.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Almost certainly won’t move. I went to lousy public schools and turned out fine. Motivated high-achieving students will do fine anywhere. Plus it’s good to go to diverse schools—helps you learn how to deal with people of different backgrounds and with different approaches to life.

If we moved anyplace, it would be DC, just for shorter commutes as we both work downtown.

My hard-working daughter kept asking why everyone around her received As - and why the majority of the school made honor roll.

We're in Frederick now.

I'm ok with that, you're ok with that - win-win.

very OK with that in all honesty

- former MCPS teacher with over 25 years in (huge cut in pay . . . And I'm fine with it.)

Oh, you again. Former MCPS teacher, former MCPS parent, and yet you keep posting on MCPS threads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wish all Principals in MCPS had the choice to prevent students with discipline problem coming to their schools, and they could remove the 10 students with discipline problems from their schools as well.

Either MCPS made other arrangements to take care of these students, or provided additional staffing resources etc. Parents would need to pay a mandatory fees if their students needed more than 2 years of these services.

You can't attach mandatory fees to a public education, which must be free.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wish all Principals in MCPS had the choice to prevent students with discipline problem coming to their schools, and they could remove the 10 students with discipline problems from their schools as well.

Either MCPS made other arrangements to take care of these students, or provided additional staffing resources etc. Parents would need to pay a mandatory fees if their students needed more than 2 years of these services.

You can't attach mandatory fees to a public education, which must be free.

Student with discipline problems do not need to be "taken care of". They need to take the consequences and (if problems are severe enough) to be expelled at some point.

This is not the reality here at MCPS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Almost certainly won’t move. I went to lousy public schools and turned out fine. Motivated high-achieving students will do fine anywhere. Plus it’s good to go to diverse schools—helps you learn how to deal with people of different backgrounds and with different approaches to life.

If we moved anyplace, it would be DC, just for shorter commutes as we both work downtown.

My hard-working daughter kept asking why everyone around her received As - and why the majority of the school made honor roll.

We're in Frederick now.

So your DD worked hard but couldn't get straight As but everyone else around her were getting As? Maybe she needed to work harder? Maybe there are lots of fairly smart kids in the school?

Let me let you in on a little secret. Not all As in fact have the same value within a class as they are weighted by a student’s SES. Signed MCPS teacher.

That's BS. You are telling me that if a kid gets 5 out 10 questions wrong that kid will get a B rather than an E? Teachers don't know a student's income level or their parent's educational level. Troll fail.