Where are all you families of high performing students planning on moving to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those fleeing Moco... will you continue voting for democrats where you move to? If so where will you flee to next?

p

Sounds like the Deep South would be a good fit for you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've always been glass half empty, as as the years have passed, I've continued to note a downward spiral in expectations/rigor and discipline, which go hand-in-hand.

My husband, however, is not an alarmist. So he caught my attention when he said that MCPS would soon implode.

In a system this large, autonomy doesn't exist, as autonomous decisions are no longer valued. Therefore, it's forced to conform to a "one size fits all" structure, where no student's needs are fully met unless a parent becomes an integral component in his/her kid's learning.

Those who can will pay for enrichment and will stay on top of their kids. Teachers can only do so much, and once the system adopts online curriculum K-12 (it's coming), there's really no need for teachers. The APEX program is proof of that b/c kids can click through a series of lessons with little interaction with a teacher.

It's not about learning; it's about getting through the material. That's the case now. Teachers have such large classes that feedback is a now a thing of the past.

And if a student is disruptive, it's the teacher's fault. suspensions? expulsions? lol what??

It's sad that so few parents see this. But if education isn't your thing, you wouldn't know. I'd encourage all of you to spend a day at your kids' schools. It's eye-opening.

I agree with this assessment completely.

I have 3 kids and have volunteered at the school and in the PTA for years now. Your post is spot on and so discouraging.

MCPS is a hot mess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those fleeing Moco... will you continue voting for democrats where you move to? If so where will you flee to next?

I think they will!

They don’t even see the connection between the Democratic polices they are embracing and the negative effects those policies (being a Sanctuary County) has on middle class families in the school system.

Montgomery County is rabidly liberal and it’s fascinating to see the same people voted back in time and time again even though it leads to crappy results.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those fleeing Moco... will you continue voting for democrats where you move to? If so where will you flee to next?

p

Sounds like the Deep South would be a good fit for you

DP

Why do you say that?

I’m an immigrant. Is the Deep South less focused on race? MCPS’ obsession with race is leading to some nonsensical initiatives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those fleeing Moco... will you continue voting for democrats where you move to? If so where will you flee to next?

I think they will!

They don’t even see the connection between the Democratic polices they are embracing and the negative effects those policies (being a Sanctuary County) has on middle class families in the school system.

Montgomery County is rabidly liberal and it’s fascinating to see the same people voted back in time and time again even though it leads to crappy results.

We moved to a fairly conservative area. During this last election, I switched from D (lifelong) to Ind. Hogan was the first R I ever voted for, btw. For the first time in my life as a parent, I'm finally seeing how well-run schools can positively impact my own children.

Not all of us are as stupid as you think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those fleeing Moco... will you continue voting for democrats where you move to? If so where will you flee to next?

p

Sounds like the Deep South would be a good fit for you

DP

Why do you say that?

I’m an immigrant. Is the Deep South less focused on race? MCPS’ obsession with race is leading to some nonsensical initiatives.

Deep South votes R these days and loves segregation just like the people fleeing moco. Seems like a match made in heaven.

[Anonymous]

Where were Trump and his kids educated? Yeah, right!!

The education system is broken and this country is racist.

Can my non-White, non-URM, non-Christian kids still do well and wrest the power? Sure. They have educated parents who will give them the opportunities. Regardless of where they live.

And we will vote for the best candidate. GOP? Trump? That ain't it, Chief!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've always been glass half empty, as as the years have passed, I've continued to note a downward spiral in expectations/rigor and discipline, which go hand-in-hand.

My husband, however, is not an alarmist. So he caught my attention when he said that MCPS would soon implode.

In a system this large, autonomy doesn't exist, as autonomous decisions are no longer valued. Therefore, it's forced to conform to a "one size fits all" structure, where no student's needs are fully met unless a parent becomes an integral component in his/her kid's learning.

Those who can will pay for enrichment and will stay on top of their kids. Teachers can only do so much, and once the system adopts online curriculum K-12 (it's coming), there's really no need for teachers. The APEX program is proof of that b/c kids can click through a series of lessons with little interaction with a teacher.

It's not about learning; it's about getting through the material. That's the case now. Teachers have such large classes that feedback is a now a thing of the past.

And if a student is disruptive, it's the teacher's fault. suspensions? expulsions? lol what??

It's sad that so few parents see this. But if education isn't your thing, you wouldn't know. I'd encourage all of you to spend a day at your kids' schools. It's eye-opening.

I keep reading that on DCUM, and every time, I wonder what specifically the poster means, besides "In my opinion, MCPS is getting worse."

Also, classes used to be larger.

You don't get it, and I don't expect you to either. Your last comment is ignorant (not your fault). Larger class sizes where kids are at similar levels doesn't necessarily ruin instruction. It's not impossible to teach 30 kids who are all reading and writing at grade level or above.

But when an inclusion class of 32 (not lying here) has 16 kids with IEPs, with a sprinkling (maybe 5) at grade level, instruction is overshadowed by management. Even with two teachers in the classroom (And in most cases, it's an instructional assistant and not a fully certified special educator.), flexible grouping becomes tiresome b/c of management issues often stemming from uneven pacing.

I won't go into details, however.

Just try to recognize that erosion on a daily basis isn't alarming b/c you simply become used to less and less as time moves on. But at some point something will give. That's when there's the implosion - when the supports are gone and blame is placed upon teachers.

You can listen or you can pretend my words are nonsense. But when you don't understand education, my words will indeed be filed in the "nonsense category."

no thanks - been there, done that - on to greener pastures

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've always been glass half empty, as as the years have passed, I've continued to note a downward spiral in expectations/rigor and discipline, which go hand-in-hand.

My husband, however, is not an alarmist. So he caught my attention when he said that MCPS would soon implode.

In a system this large, autonomy doesn't exist, as autonomous decisions are no longer valued. Therefore, it's forced to conform to a "one size fits all" structure, where no student's needs are fully met unless a parent becomes an integral component in his/her kid's learning.

Those who can will pay for enrichment and will stay on top of their kids. Teachers can only do so much, and once the system adopts online curriculum K-12 (it's coming), there's really no need for teachers. The APEX program is proof of that b/c kids can click through a series of lessons with little interaction with a teacher.

It's not about learning; it's about getting through the material. That's the case now. Teachers have such large classes that feedback is a now a thing of the past.

And if a student is disruptive, it's the teacher's fault. suspensions? expulsions? lol what??

It's sad that so few parents see this. But if education isn't your thing, you wouldn't know. I'd encourage all of you to spend a day at your kids' schools. It's eye-opening.

I keep reading that on DCUM, and every time, I wonder what specifically the poster means, besides "In my opinion, MCPS is getting worse."

Also, classes used to be larger.

You don't get it, and I don't expect you to either. Your last comment is ignorant (not your fault). Larger class sizes where kids are at similar levels doesn't necessarily ruin instruction. It's not impossible to teach 30 kids who are all reading and writing at grade level or above.

But when an inclusion class of 32 (not lying here) has 16 kids with IEPs, with a sprinkling (maybe 5) at grade level, instruction is overshadowed by management. Even with two teachers in the classroom (And in most cases, it's an instructional assistant and not a fully certified special educator.), flexible grouping becomes tiresome b/c of management issues often stemming from uneven pacing.

I won't go into details, however.

Just try to recognize that erosion on a daily basis isn't alarming b/c you simply become used to less and less as time moves on. But at some point something will give. That's when there's the implosion - when the supports are gone and blame is placed upon teachers.

You can listen or you can pretend my words are nonsense. But when you don't understand education, my words will indeed be filed in the "nonsense category."

no thanks - been there, done that - on to greener pastures

And where would that be?

[Anonymous]

My high performing kid got 100% better treatment from MCPS than my special needs kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've always been glass half empty, as as the years have passed, I've continued to note a downward spiral in expectations/rigor and discipline, which go hand-in-hand.

My husband, however, is not an alarmist. So he caught my attention when he said that MCPS would soon implode.

In a system this large, autonomy doesn't exist, as autonomous decisions are no longer valued. Therefore, it's forced to conform to a "one size fits all" structure, where no student's needs are fully met unless a parent becomes an integral component in his/her kid's learning.

Those who can will pay for enrichment and will stay on top of their kids. Teachers can only do so much, and once the system adopts online curriculum K-12 (it's coming), there's really no need for teachers. The APEX program is proof of that b/c kids can click through a series of lessons with little interaction with a teacher.

It's not about learning; it's about getting through the material. That's the case now. Teachers have such large classes that feedback is a now a thing of the past.

And if a student is disruptive, it's the teacher's fault. suspensions? expulsions? lol what??

It's sad that so few parents see this. But if education isn't your thing, you wouldn't know. I'd encourage all of you to spend a day at your kids' schools. It's eye-opening.

I keep reading that on DCUM, and every time, I wonder what specifically the poster means, besides "In my opinion, MCPS is getting worse."

Also, classes used to be larger.

You don't get it, and I don't expect you to either. Your last comment is ignorant (not your fault). Larger class sizes where kids are at similar levels doesn't necessarily ruin instruction. It's not impossible to teach 30 kids who are all reading and writing at grade level or above.

But when an inclusion class of 32 (not lying here) has 16 kids with IEPs, with a sprinkling (maybe 5) at grade level, instruction is overshadowed by management. Even with two teachers in the classroom (And in most cases, it's an instructional assistant and not a fully certified special educator.), flexible grouping becomes tiresome b/c of management issues often stemming from uneven pacing.

I won't go into details, however.

Just try to recognize that erosion on a daily basis isn't alarming b/c you simply become used to less and less as time moves on. But at some point something will give. That's when there's the implosion - when the supports are gone and blame is placed upon teachers.

You can listen or you can pretend my words are nonsense. But when you don't understand education, my words will indeed be filed in the "nonsense category."

no thanks - been there, done that - on to greener pastures

And where would that be?

Alabama

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Have you see the trend of MCPS studnet pophlatin growth? Less white students, no growth in Blck students, slight growth in Asian students, but Hispanic students now are the largest group. Yes, there are population growth but they are living in group family homes in wheaton, silver spring, Rockville, and monrgomery village. Less people pay taxes.

You are so clueless, it's not even funny.

MCPS annual report

Now show the 5 and 10 year projection

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've always been glass half empty, as as the years have passed, I've continued to note a downward spiral in expectations/rigor and discipline, which go hand-in-hand.

My husband, however, is not an alarmist. So he caught my attention when he said that MCPS would soon implode.

In a system this large, autonomy doesn't exist, as autonomous decisions are no longer valued. Therefore, it's forced to conform to a "one size fits all" structure, where no student's needs are fully met unless a parent becomes an integral component in his/her kid's learning.

Those who can will pay for enrichment and will stay on top of their kids. Teachers can only do so much, and once the system adopts online curriculum K-12 (it's coming), there's really no need for teachers. The APEX program is proof of that b/c kids can click through a series of lessons with little interaction with a teacher.

It's not about learning; it's about getting through the material. That's the case now. Teachers have such large classes that feedback is a now a thing of the past.

And if a student is disruptive, it's the teacher's fault. suspensions? expulsions? lol what??

It's sad that so few parents see this. But if education isn't your thing, you wouldn't know. I'd encourage all of you to spend a day at your kids' schools. It's eye-opening.

I agree with this assessment completely.

I have 3 kids and have volunteered at the school and in the PTA for years now. Your post is spot on and so discouraging.

MCPS is a hot mess.

+100

Next job search my wife or I do will be national, not local.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those fleeing Moco... will you continue voting for democrats where you move to? If so where will you flee to next?

I think they will!

They don’t even see the connection between the Democratic polices they are embracing and the negative effects those policies (being a Sanctuary County) has on middle class families in the school system.

Montgomery County is rabidly liberal and it’s fascinating to see the same people voted back in time and time again even though it leads to crappy results.

There’s also a “connection” between Republicans being in power and the defunding of public schools and pushing people to Christian/charter schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Have you see the trend of MCPS studnet pophlatin growth? Less white students, no growth in Blck students, slight growth in Asian students, but Hispanic students now are the largest group. Yes, there are population growth but they are living in group family homes in wheaton, silver spring, Rockville, and monrgomery village. Less people pay taxes.

You are so clueless, it's not even funny.

MCPS annual report

Now show the 5 and 10 year projection

Seems to match with numbers at the national level. this is not specific to MOCO.