Why are younger men so right wing?

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Trump already ban transwomen from women's sports? And didn't the NCAA also ban transwomen from womens sports? Answer: Yes, that happened already.

So that already makes this a solved non-issue.

Apparently, the Republican strategy now is "yabut once upon a time some of the Dems thought it wasn't an existential threat to humanity that there were 10 transwomen in womens sports." Or maybe they are going to run on "yeah Trump solved it but maybe he didn't solve it good enough so we have to keep running on it."

That really seems pretty lame and weak to me.


When your party has a sitting POTUS with a sub 40% job approval rating, you have to reach pretty far to find an angle to compete in elections if you're a politician of the incumbent party. The Dems were in this position last year. The GOP will be in this position through 2028. Good times.
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I think that there is a lack of mainstream cultural role models for more sensitive men. Even in my liberal circles all of the boys are steered towards sports in a way that is reminiscent to how girls were taught to be homemakers 75 years ago. Hip hop culture and country music culture (depending on region and racism) is also a major impediment to allowing boys to be sensitive or non violent. We need to provide role models for how a man can be less competitive sports/materialist in real world settings. Some of the greatest men that ever lived were not really the most sporty or flashy and we need to make sure that boys know this history.
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Anonymous wrote:Statistically, it is very rare, to be raped by a trans person in a bathroom or locker room. On the other hand, the chances of being raped by a man in any other setting, including a bathroom or locker room, is much higher. Still higher, is to be shot in a mass casualty event or be in a car accident. So you can spend your time focusing on things that, while possible, are extremely unlikely to harm you, or you can worry about things that are more likely to impact you. Focusing on something so rare as a transperson raping you is just....bizarre.


The bolded is significantly more rare for women than anything else on your list besides trans-male bathroom rapes.
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Anonymous wrote:Statistically, it is very rare, to be raped by a trans person in a bathroom or locker room. On the other hand, the chances of being raped by a man in any other setting, including a bathroom or locker room, is much higher. Still higher, is to be shot in a mass casualty event or be in a car accident. So you can spend your time focusing on things that, while possible, are extremely unlikely to harm you, or you can worry about things that are more likely to impact you. Focusing on something so rare as a transperson raping you is just....bizarre.


The bolded is significantly more rare for women than anything else on your list besides trans-male bathroom rapes.


Women don't go to church, movies, concerts or school?
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Anonymous wrote:Statistically, it is very rare, to be raped by a trans person in a bathroom or locker room. On the other hand, the chances of being raped by a man in any other setting, including a bathroom or locker room, is much higher. Still higher, is to be shot in a mass casualty event or be in a car accident. So you can spend your time focusing on things that, while possible, are extremely unlikely to harm you, or you can worry about things that are more likely to impact you. Focusing on something so rare as a transperson raping you is just....bizarre.


The bolded is significantly more rare for women than anything else on your list besides trans-male bathroom rapes.


Women don't go to church, movies, concerts or school?


They do, they just don’t get shot.
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Anonymous wrote:Statistically, it is very rare, to be raped by a trans person in a bathroom or locker room. On the other hand, the chances of being raped by a man in any other setting, including a bathroom or locker room, is much higher. Still higher, is to be shot in a mass casualty event or be in a car accident. So you can spend your time focusing on things that, while possible, are extremely unlikely to harm you, or you can worry about things that are more likely to impact you. Focusing on something so rare as a transperson raping you is just....bizarre.


The bolded is significantly more rare for women than anything else on your list besides trans-male bathroom rapes.


Women don't go to church, movies, concerts or school?


They do, they just don’t get shot.


What?? Cite your evidence for this.
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Anonymous wrote:Statistically, it is very rare, to be raped by a trans person in a bathroom or locker room. On the other hand, the chances of being raped by a man in any other setting, including a bathroom or locker room, is much higher. Still higher, is to be shot in a mass casualty event or be in a car accident. So you can spend your time focusing on things that, while possible, are extremely unlikely to harm you, or you can worry about things that are more likely to impact you. Focusing on something so rare as a transperson raping you is just....bizarre.


The bolded is significantly more rare for women than anything else on your list besides trans-male bathroom rapes.


Women don't go to church, movies, concerts or school?


They do, they just don’t get shot.


Women are just as likely to get shot at a mass shooting as anyone else.
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Anonymous wrote:Statistically, it is very rare, to be raped by a trans person in a bathroom or locker room. On the other hand, the chances of being raped by a man in any other setting, including a bathroom or locker room, is much higher. Still higher, is to be shot in a mass casualty event or be in a car accident. So you can spend your time focusing on things that, while possible, are extremely unlikely to harm you, or you can worry about things that are more likely to impact you. Focusing on something so rare as a transperson raping you is just....bizarre.


The bolded is significantly more rare for women than anything else on your list besides trans-male bathroom rapes.


Women don't go to church, movies, concerts or school?


They do, they just don’t get shot.


Really?

https://www.unlv.edu/sites/default/files/media/document/2024-12/r8-Mass-Shooting.pdf

In U.S. mass shootings, victims are slightly more likely to be male, though data indicates a significant percentage of incidents are connected to domestic violence, where the majority of victims are women. One analysis of U.S. mass shootings since 2000 found that just over half of the victims were male. This indicates that a substantial, but slightly smaller, portion of victims are women.

That isn't "they don't get shot"

Where do you get the idea women are not almost equally victims of mass shooting incidents? Serious question.
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Anonymous wrote:Statistically, it is very rare, to be raped by a trans person in a bathroom or locker room. On the other hand, the chances of being raped by a man in any other setting, including a bathroom or locker room, is much higher. Still higher, is to be shot in a mass casualty event or be in a car accident. So you can spend your time focusing on things that, while possible, are extremely unlikely to harm you, or you can worry about things that are more likely to impact you. Focusing on something so rare as a transperson raping you is just....bizarre.


The bolded is significantly more rare for women than anything else on your list besides trans-male bathroom rapes.


The perpetrator of the most notorious "woman-raped-by-transwoman-in-a-bathroom" case (the Loudoun County teen) turned out to not even be a transwoman. So yeah, pretty damn rare, rarer than mass shooting.
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Anonymous wrote:Statistically, it is very rare, to be raped by a trans person in a bathroom or locker room. On the other hand, the chances of being raped by a man in any other setting, including a bathroom or locker room, is much higher. Still higher, is to be shot in a mass casualty event or be in a car accident. So you can spend your time focusing on things that, while possible, are extremely unlikely to harm you, or you can worry about things that are more likely to impact you. Focusing on something so rare as a transperson raping you is just....bizarre.


The bolded is significantly more rare for women than anything else on your list besides trans-male bathroom rapes.


Women don't go to church, movies, concerts or school?


They do, they just don’t get shot.


Really?

https://www.unlv.edu/sites/default/files/media/document/2024-12/r8-Mass-Shooting.pdf

In U.S. mass shootings, victims are slightly more likely to be male, though data indicates a significant percentage of incidents are connected to domestic violence, where the majority of victims are women. One analysis of U.S. mass shootings since 2000 found that just over half of the victims were male. This indicates that a substantial, but slightly smaller, portion of victims are women.

That isn't "they don't get shot"

Where do you get the idea women are not almost equally victims of mass shooting incidents? Serious question.


The post was about probability of being raped by a trans male in a bathroom, being raped by a male anywhere, being shot in a mass shooting and being in a car accident. The OP incorrectly ranked the probability of a woman being shot in a mass shooting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Didn't Trump already ban transwomen from women's sports? And didn't the NCAA also ban transwomen from womens sports? Answer: Yes, that happened already.

So that already makes this a solved non-issue.

Apparently, the Republican strategy now is "yabut once upon a time some of the Dems thought it wasn't an existential threat to humanity that there were 10 transwomen in womens sports." Or maybe they are going to run on "yeah Trump solved it but maybe he didn't solve it good enough so we have to keep running on it."

That really seems pretty lame and weak to me.


And yet every day there are new reports of men in women’s sports, prisons, and locker rooms.

We will stop talking about once this behavior is no longer occurring.
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Anonymous wrote:Statistically, it is very rare, to be raped by a trans person in a bathroom or locker room. On the other hand, the chances of being raped by a man in any other setting, including a bathroom or locker room, is much higher. Still higher, is to be shot in a mass casualty event or be in a car accident. So you can spend your time focusing on things that, while possible, are extremely unlikely to harm you, or you can worry about things that are more likely to impact you. Focusing on something so rare as a transperson raping you is just....bizarre.


The bolded is significantly more rare for women than anything else on your list besides trans-male bathroom rapes.


The perpetrator of the most notorious "woman-raped-by-transwoman-in-a-bathroom" case (the Loudoun County teen) turned out to not even be a transwoman. So yeah, pretty damn rare, rarer than mass shooting.


Even if true, That’s irrelevant. What is relevant is that the perpetrator is male.
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Anonymous wrote:More proof of the rape of Loudoun teens.

https://wjla.com/features/i-team/teen-suspect-found-guilty-in-loudoun-county-public-school-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-assault

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/11/virginia-governor-pardons-father-school-girl-sexually-assaulted

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/family-loudoun-county-sexual-assault-victim-sues-district-30m-students-rape-school-bathroom.amp


No one is saying this didn't happen. What they are saying is, this case is cited over and over as evidence of a widespread societal issue, when statistically, it isn't.


That is the difference: you care about statistics. I care about every single woman.


Do you care about the women in Loudoun county that were raped by anyone other than a trans person? Were there any? Probably not, right? I don’t think it ever happens.


It’s so telling how people like you are are entirely unable to stay on topic. Because you have no logical arguments to make.

It’s deflect deflect deflect with whataboutism in every single comment.

What about gun control?
What about women who are raped?
What about Epstein?
What about Trump being a bad guy?

Young Men are simply tired of having to pretend that humans can change their sex.


It's so telling that you commit one fraudulent fallacy after another, base rate neglect, refusal to acknowledge the far bigger and far more legitimate concerns of others and so on. Not to mention that the core of your whole argument about trans people being a threat to women hinges on a story about a Loudoun County kid who wasn't even trans to begin with. This isn't being dismissive, or minimizing legitimate concerns, it's about calling out your outright lies and bullshit.


I have not mentioned loudon.

My argument is evolution and biology. No xx will ever be xy.



You know not everyone is xx or xy, right? Pesky biology, making things hard.


Gender identity is not related to the tiny segment of the population that suffers from sex chromosome anomalies.

Again, unwillingness to stay on topic.

Because everyone knows xx can’t become xy and men can’t become women; so your argument is simply for abolishing protections for women.


Stay on topic?
Frankly I don't even see how your injection of your fringe hysteria about transwomen was ever on topic in the first place.

You're the one who's off topic. If you want to convince me otherwise then show some polling of young right wing males showing trans issues to be the top driver of why they are the way they are.


Americans of all ages are tiring of trans nonsense.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/02/26/americans-have-grown-more-supportive-of-restrictions-for-trans-people-in-recent-years/


That poll doesn't answer the question. They may be "tiring of it" but the question posed to you was how it ranks in terms of other issues - like the economy, gun violence, healthcare, and so on. Try again.


No.

Men are right wing for a variety of reasons.

Trans is one of them.

You are free to make your own case about the economy, guns (?) or health care. Because as we have seen you unwilling and unable to focus on the trans issue. Which is actually smart, since it’s a losing issue for you.


I guess the only argument you think you can win on is by harping on transwomen and continuing to peddle hysteria about non-trans teenagers in bathrooms, and even that one's not going so well. Not the economy, not healthcare, not guns... That doesn't bode well for Republicans in 2026 and 2028.


Funny, that’s exactly what you said about the trans issue and Trump in 2024.

Meanwhile Trump won the election based on a they/them ad message.

Can’t wait to see how 2028 turns out when the Dems refuse to course correct.
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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Trump already ban transwomen from women's sports? And didn't the NCAA also ban transwomen from womens sports? Answer: Yes, that happened already.

So that already makes this a solved non-issue.

Apparently, the Republican strategy now is "yabut once upon a time some of the Dems thought it wasn't an existential threat to humanity that there were 10 transwomen in womens sports." Or maybe they are going to run on "yeah Trump solved it but maybe he didn't solve it good enough so we have to keep running on it."

That really seems pretty lame and weak to me.


And yet every day there are new reports of men in women’s sports, prisons, and locker rooms.

We will stop talking about once this behavior is no longer occurring.


Is it actually occurring though? How are there still men in womens sports when Trump banned it?
Just because there's "reports" and "talk" about it doesn't necessarily mean it's true or still happening. The right wing tends to lie, and mean lie a lot, and viciously about the issue, as we found out with the Loudoun teen, who it turned out wasn't even trans.

Meanwhile social media is also full of videos of horrible MAGAs Karens probably very much like the PP harassing actual biological women and falsely accusing them of being transwomen when they go to the gym or the ladies room.

And it turns out there may be an entire bizarre psychology around that as well, as we hear from this former MAGA woman who's found herself accused of being trans. She goes into it in detail.


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Anonymous wrote:More proof of the rape of Loudoun teens.

https://wjla.com/features/i-team/teen-suspect-found-guilty-in-loudoun-county-public-school-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-assault

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/11/virginia-governor-pardons-father-school-girl-sexually-assaulted

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/family-loudoun-county-sexual-assault-victim-sues-district-30m-students-rape-school-bathroom.amp


No one is saying this didn't happen. What they are saying is, this case is cited over and over as evidence of a widespread societal issue, when statistically, it isn't.


That is the difference: you care about statistics. I care about every single woman.


Do you care about the women in Loudoun county that were raped by anyone other than a trans person? Were there any? Probably not, right? I don’t think it ever happens.


It’s so telling how people like you are are entirely unable to stay on topic. Because you have no logical arguments to make.

It’s deflect deflect deflect with whataboutism in every single comment.

What about gun control?
What about women who are raped?
What about Epstein?
What about Trump being a bad guy?

Young Men are simply tired of having to pretend that humans can change their sex.


It's so telling that you commit one fraudulent fallacy after another, base rate neglect, refusal to acknowledge the far bigger and far more legitimate concerns of others and so on. Not to mention that the core of your whole argument about trans people being a threat to women hinges on a story about a Loudoun County kid who wasn't even trans to begin with. This isn't being dismissive, or minimizing legitimate concerns, it's about calling out your outright lies and bullshit.


I have not mentioned loudon.

My argument is evolution and biology. No xx will ever be xy.



You know not everyone is xx or xy, right? Pesky biology, making things hard.


Gender identity is not related to the tiny segment of the population that suffers from sex chromosome anomalies.

Again, unwillingness to stay on topic.

Because everyone knows xx can’t become xy and men can’t become women; so your argument is simply for abolishing protections for women.


Stay on topic?
Frankly I don't even see how your injection of your fringe hysteria about transwomen was ever on topic in the first place.

You're the one who's off topic. If you want to convince me otherwise then show some polling of young right wing males showing trans issues to be the top driver of why they are the way they are.


Americans of all ages are tiring of trans nonsense.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/02/26/americans-have-grown-more-supportive-of-restrictions-for-trans-people-in-recent-years/


That poll doesn't answer the question. They may be "tiring of it" but the question posed to you was how it ranks in terms of other issues - like the economy, gun violence, healthcare, and so on. Try again.


No.

Men are right wing for a variety of reasons.

Trans is one of them.

You are free to make your own case about the economy, guns (?) or health care. Because as we have seen you unwilling and unable to focus on the trans issue. Which is actually smart, since it’s a losing issue for you.


I guess the only argument you think you can win on is by harping on transwomen and continuing to peddle hysteria about non-trans teenagers in bathrooms, and even that one's not going so well. Not the economy, not healthcare, not guns... That doesn't bode well for Republicans in 2026 and 2028.


Funny, that’s exactly what you said about the trans issue and Trump in 2024.

Meanwhile Trump won the election based on a they/them ad message.

Can’t wait to see how 2028 turns out when the Dems refuse to course correct.


Hey good for you. Keep on ignoring the fact that Trump is sliding toward 38% in the polls and keep telling yourself about how much he's winning. Bad polls are good news! Losing is winning! Up is down! Down is up!
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