Why are younger men so right wing?

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Anonymous wrote:The whole men-in-women’s-sports issue is a scare tactic. That’s it. This is so incredibly rare. As another poster stated, it should be handled locally on a case by case basis. I only hear republicans talking about this. The only time I hear Democrats talking about it, they are responding to a question. And their answer is basically that it is not a federal government issue. This should be left to families and doctors. Democrats ARE the party of small government, and we need to start claiming that title. Rs want the government up in everyone’s business.

Also, if Rs would stop looking at people’s genitals in locker rooms and restrooms, this would be much less of an issue for them. I have no clue how many times I have shared these spaces with trans people because I don’t stare at people’s genitals.

And yet you could remove this “scare tactic” by abandoning the ridiculous take take that biological males identifying as females have as much right to women’s spaces in sports and locker rooms as biological women, but choose not to.

I wonder if folks like you will ever realize what fools they’ve made of you, making a nearly non-existent problem into your complete identity, distracting you from the things that matter.

Ii might be the same people that were building bunkers for Y2K.

I’m the poster you’re responding to and this isn’t the only issue I care about. I may care more than most as the parent of a high level female athlete, but it is not my identity. I’m responding to you because I am incredulous that you (and another far leftists) still refuse to acknowledge how ridiculous it is to have thrown your full support behind allowing males identifying as women to take a place in women’s spaces. You’re deflecting left and right in this thread with “what about”, etc. but still refuse to acknowledge how misguided your support of this is.

Can you cite exactly how many people we are talking about? Seriously, how many actual transitioning males to females are there at the high school level. Please show your work.

Let me give you one hint. In the COLLEGE level, out of over a half million athletes, there are only 10.
How many do you think there are in high school or younger?

Again, not addressing the point. Nothing about the statement you highlighted speaks to the number of people that are trans in HS. But of course you still will not engage with the fact that allowing biological men identifying as women into women’s spaces is ridiculous, regardless of how large or small the number of people is. Because if it’s a such a small number of people, why are you so insistent that trans women be entitled to belong in biological women’s spaces?

Who are these "people" who think biological men should be allowed to compete in women's sports? Name 5 people out of the 340 million Americans who feel this way. You can't so STFU.

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Anonymous wrote:More proof of the rape of Loudoun teens.

https://wjla.com/features/i-team/teen-suspect-found-guilty-in-loudoun-county-public-school-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-assault

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/11/virginia-governor-pardons-father-school-girl-sexually-assaulted

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/family-loudoun-county-sexual-assault-victim-sues-district-30m-students-rape-school-bathroom.amp

No one is saying this didn't happen. What they are saying is, this case is cited over and over as evidence of a widespread societal issue, when statistically, it isn't.

That is the difference: you care about statistics. I care about every single woman.

Do you care about the women in Loudoun county that were raped by anyone other than a trans person? Were there any? Probably not, right? I don’t think it ever happens.

It’s so telling how people like you are are entirely unable to stay on topic. Because you have no logical arguments to make.

It’s deflect deflect deflect with whataboutism in every single comment.

What about gun control?
What about women who are raped?
What about Epstein?
What about Trump being a bad guy?

Young Men are simply tired of having to pretend that humans can change their sex.

It's so telling that you commit one fraudulent fallacy after another, base rate neglect, refusal to acknowledge the far bigger and far more legitimate concerns of others and so on. Not to mention that the core of your whole argument about trans people being a threat to women hinges on a story about a Loudoun County kid who wasn't even trans to begin with. This isn't being dismissive, or minimizing legitimate concerns, it's about calling out your outright lies and bullshit.

I have not mentioned loudon.

My argument is evolution and biology. No xx will ever be xy.

Yes you did reference Loudoun, but now you're backing off of that to try and gesture around randomly after someone pointed out that was not trans and was wearing a skirt to be rebellious and non-conforming, rather than embracing trans identity. So now we're supposed to rely on some other non-specific "threats" given your central one is a bogus fabrication of right wing pundits.

And now this argument has shifted to "evolution, biology, xx vs xy," and this is a massive threat to women and young people how? You're moving the goalposts. That's a sign you lost the argument.

They are all related. Loudon is important because your position normalizes males and female segregated spaces.

Nope, it doesn't normalize anything. There are already laws about sexual assault and everything else that the boy did and he should have been held to those laws and you can't point to anywhere in this thread where I said otherwise because I never did say otherwise. I never advocated for any of those to go away, so your claim that I'm "normalizing" it falls flat. Not to mention the fact that he was not even trans to begin with. You're flailing, still clinging to a right wing myth about the kid.

Your position is fighting to allow males in female spaces.

Stay on topic. Cite a credible poll showing how this ranks in terms of what drives young men to be right wing.

The money doesn’t lie.

“Kamala Harris is for they/them. Donald Trump is for you”

Was broadcast nonstop, particularly on live sporting events.

That was one of many attack ads, not the core one that won the election and I have not seen any evidence that it was. It just proves that people can be manipulated by political lies and distortions. It still doesn't actually answer the specific question.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole men-in-women’s-sports issue is a scare tactic. That’s it. This is so incredibly rare. As another poster stated, it should be handled locally on a case by case basis. I only hear republicans talking about this. The only time I hear Democrats talking about it, they are responding to a question. And their answer is basically that it is not a federal government issue. This should be left to families and doctors. Democrats ARE the party of small government, and we need to start claiming that title. Rs want the government up in everyone’s business.

Also, if Rs would stop looking at people’s genitals in locker rooms and restrooms, this would be much less of an issue for them. I have no clue how many times I have shared these spaces with trans people because I don’t stare at people’s genitals.

And yet you could remove this “scare tactic” by abandoning the ridiculous take take that biological males identifying as females have as much right to women’s spaces in sports and locker rooms as biological women, but choose not to.

I wonder if folks like you will ever realize what fools they’ve made of you, making a nearly non-existent problem into your complete identity, distracting you from the things that matter.

Ii might be the same people that were building bunkers for Y2K.

I’m the poster you’re responding to and this isn’t the only issue I care about. I may care more than most as the parent of a high level female athlete, but it is not my identity. I’m responding to you because I am incredulous that you (and another far leftists) still refuse to acknowledge how ridiculous it is to have thrown your full support behind allowing males identifying as women to take a place in women’s spaces. You’re deflecting left and right in this thread with “what about”, etc. but still refuse to acknowledge how misguided your support of this is.

Can you cite exactly how many people we are talking about? Seriously, how many actual transitioning males to females are there at the high school level. Please show your work.

Let me give you one hint. In the COLLEGE level, out of over a half million athletes, there are only 10.
How many do you think there are in high school or younger?

Again, not addressing the point. Nothing about the statement you highlighted speaks to the number of people that are trans in HS. But of course you still will not engage with the fact that allowing biological men identifying as women into women’s spaces is ridiculous, regardless of how large or small the number of people is. Because if it’s a such a small number of people, why are you so insistent that trans women be entitled to belong in biological women’s spaces?

Who are these "people" who think biological men should be allowed to compete in women's sports? Name 5 people out of the 340 million Americans who feel this way. You can't so STFU.

Just read a couple of the last few pages. Many people making this case, that its fine because its rare.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole men-in-women’s-sports issue is a scare tactic. That’s it. This is so incredibly rare. As another poster stated, it should be handled locally on a case by case basis. I only hear republicans talking about this. The only time I hear Democrats talking about it, they are responding to a question. And their answer is basically that it is not a federal government issue. This should be left to families and doctors. Democrats ARE the party of small government, and we need to start claiming that title. Rs want the government up in everyone’s business.

Also, if Rs would stop looking at people’s genitals in locker rooms and restrooms, this would be much less of an issue for them. I have no clue how many times I have shared these spaces with trans people because I don’t stare at people’s genitals.

And yet you could remove this “scare tactic” by abandoning the ridiculous take take that biological males identifying as females have as much right to women’s spaces in sports and locker rooms as biological women, but choose not to.

I wonder if folks like you will ever realize what fools they’ve made of you, making a nearly non-existent problem into your complete identity, distracting you from the things that matter.

Ii might be the same people that were building bunkers for Y2K.

I’m the poster you’re responding to and this isn’t the only issue I care about. I may care more than most as the parent of a high level female athlete, but it is not my identity. I’m responding to you because I am incredulous that you (and another far leftists) still refuse to acknowledge how ridiculous it is to have thrown your full support behind allowing males identifying as women to take a place in women’s spaces. You’re deflecting left and right in this thread with “what about”, etc. but still refuse to acknowledge how misguided your support of this is.

Can you cite exactly how many people we are talking about? Seriously, how many actual transitioning males to females are there at the high school level. Please show your work.

Let me give you one hint. In the COLLEGE level, out of over a half million athletes, there are only 10.
How many do you think there are in high school or younger?

Again, not addressing the point. Nothing about the statement you highlighted speaks to the number of people that are trans in HS. But of course you still will not engage with the fact that allowing biological men identifying as women into women’s spaces is ridiculous, regardless of how large or small the number of people is. Because if it’s a such a small number of people, why are you so insistent that trans women be entitled to belong in biological women’s spaces?

Who are these "people" who think biological men should be allowed to compete in women's sports? Name 5 people out of the 340 million Americans who feel this way. You can't so STFU.

Nobody in this thread said so either, so this is a strawman of your own fabricating, so you can also go STFU.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole men-in-women’s-sports issue is a scare tactic. That’s it. This is so incredibly rare. As another poster stated, it should be handled locally on a case by case basis. I only hear republicans talking about this. The only time I hear Democrats talking about it, they are responding to a question. And their answer is basically that it is not a federal government issue. This should be left to families and doctors. Democrats ARE the party of small government, and we need to start claiming that title. Rs want the government up in everyone’s business.

Also, if Rs would stop looking at people’s genitals in locker rooms and restrooms, this would be much less of an issue for them. I have no clue how many times I have shared these spaces with trans people because I don’t stare at people’s genitals.

And yet you could remove this “scare tactic” by abandoning the ridiculous take take that biological males identifying as females have as much right to women’s spaces in sports and locker rooms as biological women, but choose not to.

I wonder if folks like you will ever realize what fools they’ve made of you, making a nearly non-existent problem into your complete identity, distracting you from the things that matter.

Ii might be the same people that were building bunkers for Y2K.

I’m the poster you’re responding to and this isn’t the only issue I care about. I may care more than most as the parent of a high level female athlete, but it is not my identity. I’m responding to you because I am incredulous that you (and another far leftists) still refuse to acknowledge how ridiculous it is to have thrown your full support behind allowing males identifying as women to take a place in women’s spaces. You’re deflecting left and right in this thread with “what about”, etc. but still refuse to acknowledge how misguided your support of this is.

Can you cite exactly how many people we are talking about? Seriously, how many actual transitioning males to females are there at the high school level. Please show your work.

Let me give you one hint. In the COLLEGE level, out of over a half million athletes, there are only 10.
How many do you think there are in high school or younger?

Again, not addressing the point. Nothing about the statement you highlighted speaks to the number of people that are trans in HS. But of course you still will not engage with the fact that allowing biological men identifying as women into women’s spaces is ridiculous, regardless of how large or small the number of people is. Because if it’s a such a small number of people, why are you so insistent that trans women be entitled to belong in biological women’s spaces?

Who are these "people" who think biological men should be allowed to compete in women's sports? Name 5 people out of the 340 million Americans who feel this way. You can't so STFU.

Just read a couple of the last few pages. Many people making this case, that its fine because its rare.

If it's fine to have mass shooting after mass shooting after mass shooting and not do anything why should I feel compelled to care about this? Can you answer me that?

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Anonymous wrote:More proof of the rape of Loudoun teens.

https://wjla.com/features/i-team/teen-suspect-found-guilty-in-loudoun-county-public-school-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-assault

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/11/virginia-governor-pardons-father-school-girl-sexually-assaulted

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/family-loudoun-county-sexual-assault-victim-sues-district-30m-students-rape-school-bathroom.amp

No one is saying this didn't happen. What they are saying is, this case is cited over and over as evidence of a widespread societal issue, when statistically, it isn't.

That is the difference: you care about statistics. I care about every single woman.

Do you care about the women in Loudoun county that were raped by anyone other than a trans person? Were there any? Probably not, right? I don’t think it ever happens.

It’s so telling how people like you are are entirely unable to stay on topic. Because you have no logical arguments to make.

It’s deflect deflect deflect with whataboutism in every single comment.

What about gun control?
What about women who are raped?
What about Epstein?
What about Trump being a bad guy?

Young Men are simply tired of having to pretend that humans can change their sex.

It's so telling that you commit one fraudulent fallacy after another, base rate neglect, refusal to acknowledge the far bigger and far more legitimate concerns of others and so on. Not to mention that the core of your whole argument about trans people being a threat to women hinges on a story about a Loudoun County kid who wasn't even trans to begin with. This isn't being dismissive, or minimizing legitimate concerns, it's about calling out your outright lies and bullshit.

I have not mentioned loudon.

My argument is evolution and biology. No xx will ever be xy.

Yes you did reference Loudoun, but now you're backing off of that to try and gesture around randomly after someone pointed out that was not trans and was wearing a skirt to be rebellious and non-conforming, rather than embracing trans identity. So now we're supposed to rely on some other non-specific "threats" given your central one is a bogus fabrication of right wing pundits.

And now this argument has shifted to "evolution, biology, xx vs xy," and this is a massive threat to women and young people how? You're moving the goalposts. That's a sign you lost the argument.

They are all related. Loudon is important because your position normalizes males and female segregated spaces.

Nope, it doesn't normalize anything. There are already laws about sexual assault and everything else that the boy did and he should have been held to those laws and you can't point to anywhere in this thread where I said otherwise because I never did say otherwise. I never advocated for any of those to go away, so your claim that I'm "normalizing" it falls flat. Not to mention the fact that he was not even trans to begin with. You're flailing, still clinging to a right wing myth about the kid.

Your position is fighting to allow males in female spaces.

Stay on topic. Cite a credible poll showing how this ranks in terms of what drives young men to be right wing.

The money doesn’t lie.

“Kamala Harris is for they/them. Donald Trump is for you”

Was broadcast nonstop, particularly on live sporting events.

That was one of many attack ads, not the core one that won the election and I have not seen any evidence that it was. It just proves that people can be manipulated by political lies and distortions. It still doesn't actually answer the specific question.

Kamala's own super PAC, Future Forward, begs to differ. They estimate it moved the needle 2.7 points, which won the election. It's considered one of the most effective campaign slogans in election history. Well done, Chris LaCivita, who came up with it.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole men-in-women’s-sports issue is a scare tactic. That’s it. This is so incredibly rare. As another poster stated, it should be handled locally on a case by case basis. I only hear republicans talking about this. The only time I hear Democrats talking about it, they are responding to a question. And their answer is basically that it is not a federal government issue. This should be left to families and doctors. Democrats ARE the party of small government, and we need to start claiming that title. Rs want the government up in everyone’s business.

Also, if Rs would stop looking at people’s genitals in locker rooms and restrooms, this would be much less of an issue for them. I have no clue how many times I have shared these spaces with trans people because I don’t stare at people’s genitals.

And yet you could remove this “scare tactic” by abandoning the ridiculous take take that biological males identifying as females have as much right to women’s spaces in sports and locker rooms as biological women, but choose not to.

I wonder if folks like you will ever realize what fools they’ve made of you, making a nearly non-existent problem into your complete identity, distracting you from the things that matter.

Ii might be the same people that were building bunkers for Y2K.

I’m the poster you’re responding to and this isn’t the only issue I care about. I may care more than most as the parent of a high level female athlete, but it is not my identity. I’m responding to you because I am incredulous that you (and another far leftists) still refuse to acknowledge how ridiculous it is to have thrown your full support behind allowing males identifying as women to take a place in women’s spaces. You’re deflecting left and right in this thread with “what about”, etc. but still refuse to acknowledge how misguided your support of this is.

Can you cite exactly how many people we are talking about? Seriously, how many actual transitioning males to females are there at the high school level. Please show your work.

Let me give you one hint. In the COLLEGE level, out of over a half million athletes, there are only 10.
How many do you think there are in high school or younger?

Again, not addressing the point. Nothing about the statement you highlighted speaks to the number of people that are trans in HS. But of course you still will not engage with the fact that allowing biological men identifying as women into women’s spaces is ridiculous, regardless of how large or small the number of people is. Because if it’s a such a small number of people, why are you so insistent that trans women be entitled to belong in biological women’s spaces?

Who are these "people" who think biological men should be allowed to compete in women's sports? Name 5 people out of the 340 million Americans who feel this way. You can't so STFU.

Just read a couple of the last few pages. Many people making this case, that its fine because its rare.

Don’t forget “That’s not happening!”

When there is plenty of documented evidence it is happening.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole men-in-women’s-sports issue is a scare tactic. That’s it. This is so incredibly rare. As another poster stated, it should be handled locally on a case by case basis. I only hear republicans talking about this. The only time I hear Democrats talking about it, they are responding to a question. And their answer is basically that it is not a federal government issue. This should be left to families and doctors. Democrats ARE the party of small government, and we need to start claiming that title. Rs want the government up in everyone’s business.

Also, if Rs would stop looking at people’s genitals in locker rooms and restrooms, this would be much less of an issue for them. I have no clue how many times I have shared these spaces with trans people because I don’t stare at people’s genitals.

And yet you could remove this “scare tactic” by abandoning the ridiculous take take that biological males identifying as females have as much right to women’s spaces in sports and locker rooms as biological women, but choose not to.

I wonder if folks like you will ever realize what fools they’ve made of you, making a nearly non-existent problem into your complete identity, distracting you from the things that matter.

Ii might be the same people that were building bunkers for Y2K.

I’m the poster you’re responding to and this isn’t the only issue I care about. I may care more than most as the parent of a high level female athlete, but it is not my identity. I’m responding to you because I am incredulous that you (and another far leftists) still refuse to acknowledge how ridiculous it is to have thrown your full support behind allowing males identifying as women to take a place in women’s spaces. You’re deflecting left and right in this thread with “what about”, etc. but still refuse to acknowledge how misguided your support of this is.

Can you cite exactly how many people we are talking about? Seriously, how many actual transitioning males to females are there at the high school level. Please show your work.

Let me give you one hint. In the COLLEGE level, out of over a half million athletes, there are only 10.
How many do you think there are in high school or younger?

Again, not addressing the point. Nothing about the statement you highlighted speaks to the number of people that are trans in HS. But of course you still will not engage with the fact that allowing biological men identifying as women into women’s spaces is ridiculous, regardless of how large or small the number of people is. Because if it’s a such a small number of people, why are you so insistent that trans women be entitled to belong in biological women’s spaces?

Who are these "people" who think biological men should be allowed to compete in women's sports? Name 5 people out of the 340 million Americans who feel this way. You can't so STFU.

Nobody in this thread said so either, so this is a strawman of your own fabricating, so you can also go STFU.

Exactly so why do these idiots keep harping on men playing women's sports when there are only a handful of Americans who feel men should be able to play women's sports? There are a dozen idiots in Iowa who think our society should be segregated by race. A dozen idiots does not make something a national concern.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole men-in-women’s-sports issue is a scare tactic. That’s it. This is so incredibly rare. As another poster stated, it should be handled locally on a case by case basis. I only hear republicans talking about this. The only time I hear Democrats talking about it, they are responding to a question. And their answer is basically that it is not a federal government issue. This should be left to families and doctors. Democrats ARE the party of small government, and we need to start claiming that title. Rs want the government up in everyone’s business.

Also, if Rs would stop looking at people’s genitals in locker rooms and restrooms, this would be much less of an issue for them. I have no clue how many times I have shared these spaces with trans people because I don’t stare at people’s genitals.

And yet you could remove this “scare tactic” by abandoning the ridiculous take take that biological males identifying as females have as much right to women’s spaces in sports and locker rooms as biological women, but choose not to.

I wonder if folks like you will ever realize what fools they’ve made of you, making a nearly non-existent problem into your complete identity, distracting you from the things that matter.

Ii might be the same people that were building bunkers for Y2K.

I’m the poster you’re responding to and this isn’t the only issue I care about. I may care more than most as the parent of a high level female athlete, but it is not my identity. I’m responding to you because I am incredulous that you (and another far leftists) still refuse to acknowledge how ridiculous it is to have thrown your full support behind allowing males identifying as women to take a place in women’s spaces. You’re deflecting left and right in this thread with “what about”, etc. but still refuse to acknowledge how misguided your support of this is.

Can you cite exactly how many people we are talking about? Seriously, how many actual transitioning males to females are there at the high school level. Please show your work.

Let me give you one hint. In the COLLEGE level, out of over a half million athletes, there are only 10.
How many do you think there are in high school or younger?

Again, not addressing the point. Nothing about the statement you highlighted speaks to the number of people that are trans in HS. But of course you still will not engage with the fact that allowing biological men identifying as women into women’s spaces is ridiculous, regardless of how large or small the number of people is. Because if it’s a such a small number of people, why are you so insistent that trans women be entitled to belong in biological women’s spaces?

Who are these "people" who think biological men should be allowed to compete in women's sports? Name 5 people out of the 340 million Americans who feel this way. You can't so STFU.

Just read a couple of the last few pages. Many people making this case, that its fine because its rare.

You've repeatedly made the case that you think it's fine to not care about far more important, consequential and frankly life threatening issues, and in fact made the case that everything else is just an annoying "deflection" to you, so you don't have much of a leg to stand on in complaining about what anyone else thinks is "fine."

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Anonymous wrote:The whole men-in-women’s-sports issue is a scare tactic. That’s it. This is so incredibly rare. As another poster stated, it should be handled locally on a case by case basis. I only hear republicans talking about this. The only time I hear Democrats talking about it, they are responding to a question. And their answer is basically that it is not a federal government issue. This should be left to families and doctors. Democrats ARE the party of small government, and we need to start claiming that title. Rs want the government up in everyone’s business.

Also, if Rs would stop looking at people’s genitals in locker rooms and restrooms, this would be much less of an issue for them. I have no clue how many times I have shared these spaces with trans people because I don’t stare at people’s genitals.

And yet you could remove this “scare tactic” by abandoning the ridiculous take take that biological males identifying as females have as much right to women’s spaces in sports and locker rooms as biological women, but choose not to.

I wonder if folks like you will ever realize what fools they’ve made of you, making a nearly non-existent problem into your complete identity, distracting you from the things that matter.

Ii might be the same people that were building bunkers for Y2K.

I’m the poster you’re responding to and this isn’t the only issue I care about. I may care more than most as the parent of a high level female athlete, but it is not my identity. I’m responding to you because I am incredulous that you (and another far leftists) still refuse to acknowledge how ridiculous it is to have thrown your full support behind allowing males identifying as women to take a place in women’s spaces. You’re deflecting left and right in this thread with “what about”, etc. but still refuse to acknowledge how misguided your support of this is.

Can you cite exactly how many people we are talking about? Seriously, how many actual transitioning males to females are there at the high school level. Please show your work.

Let me give you one hint. In the COLLEGE level, out of over a half million athletes, there are only 10.
How many do you think there are in high school or younger?

Again, not addressing the point. Nothing about the statement you highlighted speaks to the number of people that are trans in HS. But of course you still will not engage with the fact that allowing biological men identifying as women into women’s spaces is ridiculous, regardless of how large or small the number of people is. Because if it’s a such a small number of people, why are you so insistent that trans women be entitled to belong in biological women’s spaces?

Who are these "people" who think biological men should be allowed to compete in women's sports? Name 5 people out of the 340 million Americans who feel this way. You can't so STFU.

Just read a couple of the last few pages. Many people making this case, that its fine because its rare.

Don’t forget “That’s not happening!”

When there is plenty of documented evidence it is happening.

Lots of evidence like the "Loudoun County Rapist" who turned out to not be trans.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole men-in-women’s-sports issue is a scare tactic. That’s it. This is so incredibly rare. As another poster stated, it should be handled locally on a case by case basis. I only hear republicans talking about this. The only time I hear Democrats talking about it, they are responding to a question. And their answer is basically that it is not a federal government issue. This should be left to families and doctors. Democrats ARE the party of small government, and we need to start claiming that title. Rs want the government up in everyone’s business.

Also, if Rs would stop looking at people’s genitals in locker rooms and restrooms, this would be much less of an issue for them. I have no clue how many times I have shared these spaces with trans people because I don’t stare at people’s genitals.

And yet you could remove this “scare tactic” by abandoning the ridiculous take take that biological males identifying as females have as much right to women’s spaces in sports and locker rooms as biological women, but choose not to.

I wonder if folks like you will ever realize what fools they’ve made of you, making a nearly non-existent problem into your complete identity, distracting you from the things that matter.

Ii might be the same people that were building bunkers for Y2K.

I’m the poster you’re responding to and this isn’t the only issue I care about. I may care more than most as the parent of a high level female athlete, but it is not my identity. I’m responding to you because I am incredulous that you (and another far leftists) still refuse to acknowledge how ridiculous it is to have thrown your full support behind allowing males identifying as women to take a place in women’s spaces. You’re deflecting left and right in this thread with “what about”, etc. but still refuse to acknowledge how misguided your support of this is.

Can you cite exactly how many people we are talking about? Seriously, how many actual transitioning males to females are there at the high school level. Please show your work.

Let me give you one hint. In the COLLEGE level, out of over a half million athletes, there are only 10.
How many do you think there are in high school or younger?

Again, not addressing the point. Nothing about the statement you highlighted speaks to the number of people that are trans in HS. But of course you still will not engage with the fact that allowing biological men identifying as women into women’s spaces is ridiculous, regardless of how large or small the number of people is. Because if it’s a such a small number of people, why are you so insistent that trans women be entitled to belong in biological women’s spaces?

Who are these "people" who think biological men should be allowed to compete in women's sports? Name 5 people out of the 340 million Americans who feel this way. You can't so STFU.

Just read a couple of the last few pages. Many people making this case, that its fine because its rare.

You do realize that in most cases when you see many bizarre comments on the same topic, it is 9 times out of 10 the same idiot poster and not "many people"?? Or are you just a gullible fruitcake?

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Anonymous wrote:More proof of the rape of Loudoun teens.

https://wjla.com/features/i-team/teen-suspect-found-guilty-in-loudoun-county-public-school-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-assault

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/11/virginia-governor-pardons-father-school-girl-sexually-assaulted

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/family-loudoun-county-sexual-assault-victim-sues-district-30m-students-rape-school-bathroom.amp

No one is saying this didn't happen. What they are saying is, this case is cited over and over as evidence of a widespread societal issue, when statistically, it isn't.

That is the difference: you care about statistics. I care about every single woman.

Do you care about the women in Loudoun county that were raped by anyone other than a trans person? Were there any? Probably not, right? I don’t think it ever happens.

It’s so telling how people like you are are entirely unable to stay on topic. Because you have no logical arguments to make.

It’s deflect deflect deflect with whataboutism in every single comment.

What about gun control?
What about women who are raped?
What about Epstein?
What about Trump being a bad guy?

Young Men are simply tired of having to pretend that humans can change their sex.

It's so telling that you commit one fraudulent fallacy after another, base rate neglect, refusal to acknowledge the far bigger and far more legitimate concerns of others and so on. Not to mention that the core of your whole argument about trans people being a threat to women hinges on a story about a Loudoun County kid who wasn't even trans to begin with. This isn't being dismissive, or minimizing legitimate concerns, it's about calling out your outright lies and bullshit.

I have not mentioned loudon.

My argument is evolution and biology. No xx will ever be xy.

You know not everyone is xx or xy, right? Pesky biology, making things hard.

Gender identity is not related to the tiny segment of the population that suffers from sex chromosome anomalies.

Again, unwillingness to stay on topic.

Because everyone knows xx can’t become xy and men can’t become women; so your argument is simply for abolishing protections for women.

Stay on topic?
Frankly I don't even see how your injection of your fringe hysteria about transwomen was ever on topic in the first place.

You're the one who's off topic. If you want to convince me otherwise then show some polling of young right wing males showing trans issues to be the top driver of why they are the way they are.

Americans of all ages are tiring of trans nonsense.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/02/26/americans-have-grown-more-supportive-of-restrictions-for-trans-people-in-recent-years/

That poll doesn't answer the question. They may be "tiring of it" but the question posed to you was how it ranks in terms of other issues - like the economy, gun violence, healthcare, and so on. Try again.

No.

Men are right wing for a variety of reasons.

Trans is one of them.

You are free to make your own case about the economy, guns (?) or health care. Because as we have seen you unwilling and unable to focus on the trans issue. Which is actually smart, since it’s a losing issue for you.

Yet you've repeatedly lost argument after argument about the issue in this thread.

If anything, the trans issue is a case study in how gullible young people can be manipulated by political rhetoric and fabricated bogeyman issues.

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Anonymous wrote:More proof of the rape of Loudoun teens.

https://wjla.com/features/i-team/teen-suspect-found-guilty-in-loudoun-county-public-school-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-assault

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/11/virginia-governor-pardons-father-school-girl-sexually-assaulted

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/family-loudoun-county-sexual-assault-victim-sues-district-30m-students-rape-school-bathroom.amp

No one is saying this didn't happen. What they are saying is, this case is cited over and over as evidence of a widespread societal issue, when statistically, it isn't.

That is the difference: you care about statistics. I care about every single woman.

Do you care about the women in Loudoun county that were raped by anyone other than a trans person? Were there any? Probably not, right? I don’t think it ever happens.

It’s so telling how people like you are are entirely unable to stay on topic. Because you have no logical arguments to make.

It’s deflect deflect deflect with whataboutism in every single comment.

What about gun control?
What about women who are raped?
What about Epstein?
What about Trump being a bad guy?

Young Men are simply tired of having to pretend that humans can change their sex.

It's so telling that you commit one fraudulent fallacy after another, base rate neglect, refusal to acknowledge the far bigger and far more legitimate concerns of others and so on. Not to mention that the core of your whole argument about trans people being a threat to women hinges on a story about a Loudoun County kid who wasn't even trans to begin with. This isn't being dismissive, or minimizing legitimate concerns, it's about calling out your outright lies and bullshit.

I have not mentioned loudon.

My argument is evolution and biology. No xx will ever be xy.

You know not everyone is xx or xy, right? Pesky biology, making things hard.

Gender identity is not related to the tiny segment of the population that suffers from sex chromosome anomalies.

Again, unwillingness to stay on topic.

Because everyone knows xx can’t become xy and men can’t become women; so your argument is simply for abolishing protections for women.

Stay on topic?
Frankly I don't even see how your injection of your fringe hysteria about transwomen was ever on topic in the first place.

You're the one who's off topic. If you want to convince me otherwise then show some polling of young right wing males showing trans issues to be the top driver of why they are the way they are.

Americans of all ages are tiring of trans nonsense.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/02/26/americans-have-grown-more-supportive-of-restrictions-for-trans-people-in-recent-years/

That poll doesn't answer the question. They may be "tiring of it" but the question posed to you was how it ranks in terms of other issues - like the economy, gun violence, healthcare, and so on. Try again.

No.

Men are right wing for a variety of reasons.

Trans is one of them.

You are free to make your own case about the economy, guns (?) or health care. Because as we have seen you unwilling and unable to focus on the trans issue. Which is actually smart, since it’s a losing issue for you.

I guess the only argument you think you can win on is by harping on transwomen and continuing to peddle hysteria about non-trans teenagers in bathrooms, and even that one's not going so well. Not the economy, not healthcare, not guns... That doesn't bode well for Republicans in 2026 and 2028.

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Anonymous wrote:More proof of the rape of Loudoun teens.

https://wjla.com/features/i-team/teen-suspect-found-guilty-in-loudoun-county-public-school-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-assault

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/11/virginia-governor-pardons-father-school-girl-sexually-assaulted

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/family-loudoun-county-sexual-assault-victim-sues-district-30m-students-rape-school-bathroom.amp

No one is saying this didn't happen. What they are saying is, this case is cited over and over as evidence of a widespread societal issue, when statistically, it isn't.

That is the difference: you care about statistics. I care about every single woman.

Do you care about the women in Loudoun county that were raped by anyone other than a trans person? Were there any? Probably not, right? I don’t think it ever happens.

It’s so telling how people like you are are entirely unable to stay on topic. Because you have no logical arguments to make.

It’s deflect deflect deflect with whataboutism in every single comment.

What about gun control?
What about women who are raped?
What about Epstein?
What about Trump being a bad guy?

Young Men are simply tired of having to pretend that humans can change their sex.

It's so telling that you commit one fraudulent fallacy after another, base rate neglect, refusal to acknowledge the far bigger and far more legitimate concerns of others and so on. Not to mention that the core of your whole argument about trans people being a threat to women hinges on a story about a Loudoun County kid who wasn't even trans to begin with. This isn't being dismissive, or minimizing legitimate concerns, it's about calling out your outright lies and bullshit.

I have not mentioned loudon.

My argument is evolution and biology. No xx will ever be xy.

You know not everyone is xx or xy, right? Pesky biology, making things hard.

Gender identity is not related to the tiny segment of the population that suffers from sex chromosome anomalies.

Again, unwillingness to stay on topic.

Because everyone knows xx can’t become xy and men can’t become women; so your argument is simply for abolishing protections for women.

Stay on topic?
Frankly I don't even see how your injection of your fringe hysteria about transwomen was ever on topic in the first place.

You're the one who's off topic. If you want to convince me otherwise then show some polling of young right wing males showing trans issues to be the top driver of why they are the way they are.

Americans of all ages are tiring of trans nonsense.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/02/26/americans-have-grown-more-supportive-of-restrictions-for-trans-people-in-recent-years/

That poll doesn't answer the question. They may be "tiring of it" but the question posed to you was how it ranks in terms of other issues - like the economy, gun violence, healthcare, and so on. Try again.

No.

Men are right wing for a variety of reasons.

Trans is one of them.

You are free to make your own case about the economy, guns (?) or health care. Because as we have seen you unwilling and unable to focus on the trans issue. Which is actually smart, since it’s a losing issue for you.

Yet you've repeatedly lost argument after argument about the issue in this thread.

If anything, the trans issue is a case study in how gullible young people can be manipulated by political rhetoric and fabricated bogeyman issues.

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Republicans think all women should be limited to giving birth to one child so be sure to vote for Democrats.

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Didn't Trump already ban transwomen from women's sports? And didn't the NCAA also ban transwomen from womens sports? Answer: Yes, that happened already.

So that already makes this a solved non-issue.

Apparently, the Republican strategy now is "yabut once upon a time some of the Dems thought it wasn't an existential threat to humanity that there were 10 transwomen in womens sports." Or maybe they are going to run on "yeah Trump solved it but maybe he didn't solve it good enough so we have to keep running on it."

That really seems pretty lame and weak to me.