Do you like Taylor Swift?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't hate her, but the twee forlorn music is annoying and not age appropriate. Maybe it's because she's lived in her dad's cocoon since she started. She should have more to do than the boyfriend complaint jam and secret Easter eggs.

I think the clock on this will run out once she gets married or has a kid. Look at Katy Perry. No one wants to hear her perform "Teenage Dream" now that she's engaged with a toddler. The boyfriend complaint songs will have to go once she marries.

I don’t get this kind of criticism. I really don’t care if anyone likes Taylor Swift or not but the whole she’s going to be fine, people are going to move on is weird. The Beatles aren’t exactly pumping out new albums, either, but they are icons and people still listen to them and our kids are discovering them and I’m betting the next generation will too.

Eventually all pop stars slow down. Of course she won’t be constantly pumping out music like she has for the last 20 years, but she has an insane amount of songs people know, and love. She has a few more albums in her in the coming years. As grows older it’s going to be interesting to see her collab with younger stars. She will probably reinvent herself a few times and I’m betting some of us will be going to see Taylor in her 60s just like Madonna.

Will she stay on top forever? No, nobody does. I don’t understand why that is a dig. It’s just a fact of life and I don’t see people saying that about other artists but for some reason people love to bring it up about Swift.

I guess my question is whether she can do anything but the relationship bops. For many singers, that's their main material and it dries up with age. For example Fleetwood Mac made great record when they were all screwing each other and breaking each other's hearts. They were still singing those songs in their forties and fifties. There is probably not an audience for new material at that point.

So the question is whether the current library ages well enough for her to sing it when ahe's 45. For Katy Perry the answer is apparently leaning toward "no." Maybe when Taylor is 45 her fans will still want to hear about her being in the bleachers in high school. If they all enjoy her emotionally arrested mentality they probably will.

The Man
Ronan
22
The Best Day
Never Grow Up
The Lucky One
This is Me Trying
The Last Great American Dynasty
Peter
Marjorie
Long Live
Eyes Open
Only The Young
You need to calm down
Bad Blood
Shake It Off
Welcome to New York
Mean
You're on your own Kid
I did something bad
Clean
Fifteen
The Lakes
Soon You'll Get Better
Mad Woman
This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things
Hoax
Epiphany

Just to name some....

Again, many of you are showing you only know a surface level about her music but want to post on and on about it.

In any event these are all very teenage and young adult- sounding even if not about her terrible bad boyfriends that she is just a wee victim of. Poor Taylor.

Do you think "Bad Blood" will sound good when she's 45? That sounds like a song for a "woman" stuck at age 17. If she is singing it at 45 my response would be she needs therapy.

Mi actually think she could do this alone on a stage with an acoustic guitar at 45 and it would be great.

Dylan also just completely reinvents his old songs and takes them on tour, changing up the phrasing. I’m not sure Swift would do that but it’s one way to give life to songs you wrote 40 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't hate her, but the twee forlorn music is annoying and not age appropriate. Maybe it's because she's lived in her dad's cocoon since she started. She should have more to do than the boyfriend complaint jam and secret Easter eggs.

I think the clock on this will run out once she gets married or has a kid. Look at Katy Perry. No one wants to hear her perform "Teenage Dream" now that she's engaged with a toddler. The boyfriend complaint songs will have to go once she marries.

I don’t get this kind of criticism. I really don’t care if anyone likes Taylor Swift or not but the whole she’s going to be fine, people are going to move on is weird. The Beatles aren’t exactly pumping out new albums, either, but they are icons and people still listen to them and our kids are discovering them and I’m betting the next generation will too.

Eventually all pop stars slow down. Of course she won’t be constantly pumping out music like she has for the last 20 years, but she has an insane amount of songs people know, and love. She has a few more albums in her in the coming years. As grows older it’s going to be interesting to see her collab with younger stars. She will probably reinvent herself a few times and I’m betting some of us will be going to see Taylor in her 60s just like Madonna.

Will she stay on top forever? No, nobody does. I don’t understand why that is a dig. It’s just a fact of life and I don’t see people saying that about other artists but for some reason people love to bring it up about Swift.

I guess my question is whether she can do anything but the relationship bops. For many singers, that's their main material and it dries up with age. For example Fleetwood Mac made great record when they were all screwing each other and breaking each other's hearts. They were still singing those songs in their forties and fifties. There is probably not an audience for new material at that point.

So the question is whether the current library ages well enough for her to sing it when ahe's 45. For Katy Perry the answer is apparently leaning toward "no." Maybe when Taylor is 45 her fans will still want to hear about her being in the bleachers in high school. If they all enjoy her emotionally arrested mentality they probably will.

The Man
Ronan
22
The Best Day
Never Grow Up
The Lucky One
This is Me Trying
The Last Great American Dynasty
Peter
Marjorie
Long Live
Eyes Open
Only The Young
You need to calm down
Bad Blood
Shake It Off
Welcome to New York
Mean
You're on your own Kid
I did something bad
Clean
Fifteen
The Lakes
Soon You'll Get Better
Mad Woman
This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things
Hoax
Epiphany

Just to name some....

Again, many of you are showing you only know a surface level about her music but want to post on and on about it.

In any event these are all very teenage and young adult- sounding even if not about her terrible bad boyfriends that she is just a wee victim of. Poor Taylor.

Do you think "Bad Blood" will sound good when she's 45? That sounds like a song for a "woman" stuck at age 17. If she is singing it at 45 my response would be she needs therapy.

I think you're the one in need of therapy, let it go. If you don't like an artist and don't know anything about her body of work, why keep commenting? Many of the songs above are beautiful. I'm guessing you have not heard all of them.

You are the one attacking me for my opinion.

Maybe you need to examine why it is so important that everyone worships Taylor.

Do you also have a cat named Olivia? Are you the president of the Tay Fan Club? Did you wear a feather boa to the concert and post on Instagram so everyone would see how cool you are. Your emotional connection to her is a bigger problem than my observation that teenage complaint rick does not compute during the perimenopause years.

Seriously, you need to take a step back. No one is attacking you for anything. People are simply pointing out that your “facts“ about Taylor are in fact not true. You’ve heard sound bites over the years about why people don’t like her and you’ve chosen to believe them.

You seem to be attacking an artist because they sing about love and it’s in the pop style of music. Love is timeless. Anyone can identify with songs about Love at any age. Please name artists that don’t sing about Love. Additionally if you don’t see a progression from Taylor singing about Love and her original album eg “our song” all the way to “the alchemy” on her latest album, I’m not sure what to tell you.

And it is indeed a fact that she sings a lot about ex-boyfriends. I don't happen to enjoy hearing a 35 year old millionaire drine on about her ex lovers and boyfriends. I realize her marker is teens and young women who like to sit in their emotional bathwater. So there is a market for the bad boyfriend bops and also the sweater song.

Even her announcement about the masters is her trying to look like a young girl. It's very creepy and sad. Happy women her age are married with children while she's still trying to look like a teenager. Reminds me of that 40 yo Wapo journalist, Taylor Lorenz, who is also deeply uncomfortable with her age and tries to dress and act like a hipster zoomer.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't hate her, but the twee forlorn music is annoying and not age appropriate. Maybe it's because she's lived in her dad's cocoon since she started. She should have more to do than the boyfriend complaint jam and secret Easter eggs.

I think the clock on this will run out once she gets married or has a kid. Look at Katy Perry. No one wants to hear her perform "Teenage Dream" now that she's engaged with a toddler. The boyfriend complaint songs will have to go once she marries.

I don’t get this kind of criticism. I really don’t care if anyone likes Taylor Swift or not but the whole she’s going to be fine, people are going to move on is weird. The Beatles aren’t exactly pumping out new albums, either, but they are icons and people still listen to them and our kids are discovering them and I’m betting the next generation will too.

Eventually all pop stars slow down. Of course she won’t be constantly pumping out music like she has for the last 20 years, but she has an insane amount of songs people know, and love. She has a few more albums in her in the coming years. As grows older it’s going to be interesting to see her collab with younger stars. She will probably reinvent herself a few times and I’m betting some of us will be going to see Taylor in her 60s just like Madonna.

Will she stay on top forever? No, nobody does. I don’t understand why that is a dig. It’s just a fact of life and I don’t see people saying that about other artists but for some reason people love to bring it up about Swift.

I guess my question is whether she can do anything but the relationship bops. For many singers, that's their main material and it dries up with age. For example Fleetwood Mac made great record when they were all screwing each other and breaking each other's hearts. They were still singing those songs in their forties and fifties. There is probably not an audience for new material at that point.

So the question is whether the current library ages well enough for her to sing it when ahe's 45. For Katy Perry the answer is apparently leaning toward "no." Maybe when Taylor is 45 her fans will still want to hear about her being in the bleachers in high school. If they all enjoy her emotionally arrested mentality they probably will.

The Man
Ronan
22
The Best Day
Never Grow Up
The Lucky One
This is Me Trying
The Last Great American Dynasty
Peter
Marjorie
Long Live
Eyes Open
Only The Young
You need to calm down
Bad Blood
Shake It Off
Welcome to New York
Mean
You're on your own Kid
I did something bad
Clean
Fifteen
The Lakes
Soon You'll Get Better
Mad Woman
This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things
Hoax
Epiphany

Just to name some....

Again, many of you are showing you only know a surface level about her music but want to post on and on about it.

In any event these are all very teenage and young adult- sounding even if not about her terrible bad boyfriends that she is just a wee victim of. Poor Taylor.

Do you think "Bad Blood" will sound good when she's 45? That sounds like a song for a "woman" stuck at age 17. If she is singing it at 45 my response would be she needs therapy.

I think you're the one in need of therapy, let it go. If you don't like an artist and don't know anything about her body of work, why keep commenting? Many of the songs above are beautiful. I'm guessing you have not heard all of them.

You are the one attacking me for my opinion.

Maybe you need to examine why it is so important that everyone worships Taylor.

Do you also have a cat named Olivia? Are you the president of the Tay Fan Club? Did you wear a feather boa to the concert and post on Instagram so everyone would see how cool you are. Your emotional connection to her is a bigger problem than my observation that teenage complaint rick does not compute during the perimenopause years.

Seriously, you need to take a step back. No one is attacking you for anything. People are simply pointing out that your “facts“ about Taylor are in fact not true. You’ve heard sound bites over the years about why people don’t like her and you’ve chosen to believe them.

You seem to be attacking an artist because they sing about love and it’s in the pop style of music. Love is timeless. Anyone can identify with songs about Love at any age. Please name artists that don’t sing about Love. Additionally if you don’t see a progression from Taylor singing about Love and her original album eg “our song” all the way to “the alchemy” on her latest album, I’m not sure what to tell you.

And it is indeed a fact that she sings a lot about ex-boyfriends. I don't happen to enjoy hearing a 35 year old millionaire drine on about her ex lovers and boyfriends. I realize her marker is teens and young women who like to sit in their emotional bathwater. So there is a market for the bad boyfriend bops and also the sweater song.

Even her announcement about the masters is her trying to look like a young girl. It's very creepy and sad. Happy women her age are married with children while she's still trying to look like a teenager. Reminds me of that 40 yo Wapo journalist, Taylor Lorenz, who is also deeply uncomfortable with her age and tries to dress and act like a hipster zoomer.

What a narrow view of women. I’m sad for you.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't hate her, but the twee forlorn music is annoying and not age appropriate. Maybe it's because she's lived in her dad's cocoon since she started. She should have more to do than the boyfriend complaint jam and secret Easter eggs.

I think the clock on this will run out once she gets married or has a kid. Look at Katy Perry. No one wants to hear her perform "Teenage Dream" now that she's engaged with a toddler. The boyfriend complaint songs will have to go once she marries.

I don’t get this kind of criticism. I really don’t care if anyone likes Taylor Swift or not but the whole she’s going to be fine, people are going to move on is weird. The Beatles aren’t exactly pumping out new albums, either, but they are icons and people still listen to them and our kids are discovering them and I’m betting the next generation will too.

Eventually all pop stars slow down. Of course she won’t be constantly pumping out music like she has for the last 20 years, but she has an insane amount of songs people know, and love. She has a few more albums in her in the coming years. As grows older it’s going to be interesting to see her collab with younger stars. She will probably reinvent herself a few times and I’m betting some of us will be going to see Taylor in her 60s just like Madonna.

Will she stay on top forever? No, nobody does. I don’t understand why that is a dig. It’s just a fact of life and I don’t see people saying that about other artists but for some reason people love to bring it up about Swift.

I guess my question is whether she can do anything but the relationship bops. For many singers, that's their main material and it dries up with age. For example Fleetwood Mac made great record when they were all screwing each other and breaking each other's hearts. They were still singing those songs in their forties and fifties. There is probably not an audience for new material at that point.

So the question is whether the current library ages well enough for her to sing it when ahe's 45. For Katy Perry the answer is apparently leaning toward "no." Maybe when Taylor is 45 her fans will still want to hear about her being in the bleachers in high school. If they all enjoy her emotionally arrested mentality they probably will.

The Man
Ronan
22
The Best Day
Never Grow Up
The Lucky One
This is Me Trying
The Last Great American Dynasty
Peter
Marjorie
Long Live
Eyes Open
Only The Young
You need to calm down
Bad Blood
Shake It Off
Welcome to New York
Mean
You're on your own Kid
I did something bad
Clean
Fifteen
The Lakes
Soon You'll Get Better
Mad Woman
This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things
Hoax
Epiphany

Just to name some....

Again, many of you are showing you only know a surface level about her music but want to post on and on about it.

In any event these are all very teenage and young adult- sounding even if not about her terrible bad boyfriends that she is just a wee victim of. Poor Taylor.

Do you think "Bad Blood" will sound good when she's 45? That sounds like a song for a "woman" stuck at age 17. If she is singing it at 45 my response would be she needs therapy.

I think you're the one in need of therapy, let it go. If you don't like an artist and don't know anything about her body of work, why keep commenting? Many of the songs above are beautiful. I'm guessing you have not heard all of them.

You are the one attacking me for my opinion.

Maybe you need to examine why it is so important that everyone worships Taylor.

Do you also have a cat named Olivia? Are you the president of the Tay Fan Club? Did you wear a feather boa to the concert and post on Instagram so everyone would see how cool you are. Your emotional connection to her is a bigger problem than my observation that teenage complaint rick does not compute during the perimenopause years.

Seriously, you need to take a step back. No one is attacking you for anything. People are simply pointing out that your “facts“ about Taylor are in fact not true. You’ve heard sound bites over the years about why people don’t like her and you’ve chosen to believe them.

You seem to be attacking an artist because they sing about love and it’s in the pop style of music. Love is timeless. Anyone can identify with songs about Love at any age. Please name artists that don’t sing about Love. Additionally if you don’t see a progression from Taylor singing about Love and her original album eg “our song” all the way to “the alchemy” on her latest album, I’m not sure what to tell you.

And it is indeed a fact that she sings a lot about ex-boyfriends. I don't happen to enjoy hearing a 35 year old millionaire drine on about her ex lovers and boyfriends. I realize her marker is teens and young women who like to sit in their emotional bathwater. So there is a market for the bad boyfriend bops and also the sweater song.

Even her announcement about the masters is her trying to look like a young girl. It's very creepy and sad. Happy women her age are married with children while she's still trying to look like a teenager. Reminds me of that 40 yo Wapo journalist, Taylor Lorenz, who is also deeply uncomfortable with her age and tries to dress and act like a hipster zoomer.

Girl go listen to lavender haze.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't hate her, but the twee forlorn music is annoying and not age appropriate. Maybe it's because she's lived in her dad's cocoon since she started. She should have more to do than the boyfriend complaint jam and secret Easter eggs.

I think the clock on this will run out once she gets married or has a kid. Look at Katy Perry. No one wants to hear her perform "Teenage Dream" now that she's engaged with a toddler. The boyfriend complaint songs will have to go once she marries.

I don’t get this kind of criticism. I really don’t care if anyone likes Taylor Swift or not but the whole she’s going to be fine, people are going to move on is weird. The Beatles aren’t exactly pumping out new albums, either, but they are icons and people still listen to them and our kids are discovering them and I’m betting the next generation will too.

Eventually all pop stars slow down. Of course she won’t be constantly pumping out music like she has for the last 20 years, but she has an insane amount of songs people know, and love. She has a few more albums in her in the coming years. As grows older it’s going to be interesting to see her collab with younger stars. She will probably reinvent herself a few times and I’m betting some of us will be going to see Taylor in her 60s just like Madonna.

Will she stay on top forever? No, nobody does. I don’t understand why that is a dig. It’s just a fact of life and I don’t see people saying that about other artists but for some reason people love to bring it up about Swift.

I guess my question is whether she can do anything but the relationship bops. For many singers, that's their main material and it dries up with age. For example Fleetwood Mac made great record when they were all screwing each other and breaking each other's hearts. They were still singing those songs in their forties and fifties. There is probably not an audience for new material at that point.

So the question is whether the current library ages well enough for her to sing it when ahe's 45. For Katy Perry the answer is apparently leaning toward "no." Maybe when Taylor is 45 her fans will still want to hear about her being in the bleachers in high school. If they all enjoy her emotionally arrested mentality they probably will.

The Man
Ronan
22
The Best Day
Never Grow Up
The Lucky One
This is Me Trying
The Last Great American Dynasty
Peter
Marjorie
Long Live
Eyes Open
Only The Young
You need to calm down
Bad Blood
Shake It Off
Welcome to New York
Mean
You're on your own Kid
I did something bad
Clean
Fifteen
The Lakes
Soon You'll Get Better
Mad Woman
This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things
Hoax
Epiphany

Just to name some....

Again, many of you are showing you only know a surface level about her music but want to post on and on about it.

In any event these are all very teenage and young adult- sounding even if not about her terrible bad boyfriends that she is just a wee victim of. Poor Taylor.

Do you think "Bad Blood" will sound good when she's 45? That sounds like a song for a "woman" stuck at age 17. If she is singing it at 45 my response would be she needs therapy.

I think you're the one in need of therapy, let it go. If you don't like an artist and don't know anything about her body of work, why keep commenting? Many of the songs above are beautiful. I'm guessing you have not heard all of them.

You are the one attacking me for my opinion.

Maybe you need to examine why it is so important that everyone worships Taylor.

Do you also have a cat named Olivia? Are you the president of the Tay Fan Club? Did you wear a feather boa to the concert and post on Instagram so everyone would see how cool you are. Your emotional connection to her is a bigger problem than my observation that teenage complaint rick does not compute during the perimenopause years.

Seriously, you need to take a step back. No one is attacking you for anything. People are simply pointing out that your “facts“ about Taylor are in fact not true. You’ve heard sound bites over the years about why people don’t like her and you’ve chosen to believe them.

You seem to be attacking an artist because they sing about love and it’s in the pop style of music. Love is timeless. Anyone can identify with songs about Love at any age. Please name artists that don’t sing about Love. Additionally if you don’t see a progression from Taylor singing about Love and her original album eg “our song” all the way to “the alchemy” on her latest album, I’m not sure what to tell you.

So a FACT may be she wrote some other songs on different topics, but the PPs OPINION is that all the songs she has heard suck, so why spend more time listening to music she doesn’t like?

If an artist doesn’t grab you when you listen to their popular work, no one has to make you listen to any more of her songs.
No one should say, you just can’t have an opinion because you have never listened to ALL her songs.

Heck, people VOTE in elections based on less information that the PP has about Swift and they get to have an opinion.

It is not realistic to believe that you can’t have an opinion about an artist based upon their hit singles. There isn’t enough time in our lives to listen to every album every artist has ever put out to make an opinion about that artist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't hate her, but the twee forlorn music is annoying and not age appropriate. Maybe it's because she's lived in her dad's cocoon since she started. She should have more to do than the boyfriend complaint jam and secret Easter eggs.

I think the clock on this will run out once she gets married or has a kid. Look at Katy Perry. No one wants to hear her perform "Teenage Dream" now that she's engaged with a toddler. The boyfriend complaint songs will have to go once she marries.

I don’t get this kind of criticism. I really don’t care if anyone likes Taylor Swift or not but the whole she’s going to be fine, people are going to move on is weird. The Beatles aren’t exactly pumping out new albums, either, but they are icons and people still listen to them and our kids are discovering them and I’m betting the next generation will too.

Eventually all pop stars slow down. Of course she won’t be constantly pumping out music like she has for the last 20 years, but she has an insane amount of songs people know, and love. She has a few more albums in her in the coming years. As grows older it’s going to be interesting to see her collab with younger stars. She will probably reinvent herself a few times and I’m betting some of us will be going to see Taylor in her 60s just like Madonna.

Will she stay on top forever? No, nobody does. I don’t understand why that is a dig. It’s just a fact of life and I don’t see people saying that about other artists but for some reason people love to bring it up about Swift.

I guess my question is whether she can do anything but the relationship bops. For many singers, that's their main material and it dries up with age. For example Fleetwood Mac made great record when they were all screwing each other and breaking each other's hearts. They were still singing those songs in their forties and fifties. There is probably not an audience for new material at that point.

So the question is whether the current library ages well enough for her to sing it when ahe's 45. For Katy Perry the answer is apparently leaning toward "no." Maybe when Taylor is 45 her fans will still want to hear about her being in the bleachers in high school. If they all enjoy her emotionally arrested mentality they probably will.

The Man
Ronan
22
The Best Day
Never Grow Up
The Lucky One
This is Me Trying
The Last Great American Dynasty
Peter
Marjorie
Long Live
Eyes Open
Only The Young
You need to calm down
Bad Blood
Shake It Off
Welcome to New York
Mean
You're on your own Kid
I did something bad
Clean
Fifteen
The Lakes
Soon You'll Get Better
Mad Woman
This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things
Hoax
Epiphany

Just to name some....

Again, many of you are showing you only know a surface level about her music but want to post on and on about it.

In any event these are all very teenage and young adult- sounding even if not about her terrible bad boyfriends that she is just a wee victim of. Poor Taylor.

Do you think "Bad Blood" will sound good when she's 45? That sounds like a song for a "woman" stuck at age 17. If she is singing it at 45 my response would be she needs therapy.

I think you're the one in need of therapy, let it go. If you don't like an artist and don't know anything about her body of work, why keep commenting? Many of the songs above are beautiful. I'm guessing you have not heard all of them.

You are the one attacking me for my opinion.

Maybe you need to examine why it is so important that everyone worships Taylor.

Do you also have a cat named Olivia? Are you the president of the Tay Fan Club? Did you wear a feather boa to the concert and post on Instagram so everyone would see how cool you are. Your emotional connection to her is a bigger problem than my observation that teenage complaint rick does not compute during the perimenopause years.

Seriously, you need to take a step back. No one is attacking you for anything. People are simply pointing out that your “facts“ about Taylor are in fact not true. You’ve heard sound bites over the years about why people don’t like her and you’ve chosen to believe them.

You seem to be attacking an artist because they sing about love and it’s in the pop style of music. Love is timeless. Anyone can identify with songs about Love at any age. Please name artists that don’t sing about Love. Additionally if you don’t see a progression from Taylor singing about Love and her original album eg “our song” all the way to “the alchemy” on her latest album, I’m not sure what to tell you.

And it is indeed a fact that she sings a lot about ex-boyfriends. I don't happen to enjoy hearing a 35 year old millionaire drine on about her ex lovers and boyfriends. I realize her marker is teens and young women who like to sit in their emotional bathwater. So there is a market for the bad boyfriend bops and also the sweater song.

Even her announcement about the masters is her trying to look like a young girl. It's very creepy and sad. Happy women her age are married with children while she's still trying to look like a teenager. Reminds me of that 40 yo Wapo journalist, Taylor Lorenz, who is also deeply uncomfortable with her age and tries to dress and act like a hipster zoomer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't hate her, but the twee forlorn music is annoying and not age appropriate. Maybe it's because she's lived in her dad's cocoon since she started. She should have more to do than the boyfriend complaint jam and secret Easter eggs.

I think the clock on this will run out once she gets married or has a kid. Look at Katy Perry. No one wants to hear her perform "Teenage Dream" now that she's engaged with a toddler. The boyfriend complaint songs will have to go once she marries.

I don’t get this kind of criticism. I really don’t care if anyone likes Taylor Swift or not but the whole she’s going to be fine, people are going to move on is weird. The Beatles aren’t exactly pumping out new albums, either, but they are icons and people still listen to them and our kids are discovering them and I’m betting the next generation will too.

Eventually all pop stars slow down. Of course she won’t be constantly pumping out music like she has for the last 20 years, but she has an insane amount of songs people know, and love. She has a few more albums in her in the coming years. As grows older it’s going to be interesting to see her collab with younger stars. She will probably reinvent herself a few times and I’m betting some of us will be going to see Taylor in her 60s just like Madonna.

Will she stay on top forever? No, nobody does. I don’t understand why that is a dig. It’s just a fact of life and I don’t see people saying that about other artists but for some reason people love to bring it up about Swift.

I guess my question is whether she can do anything but the relationship bops. For many singers, that's their main material and it dries up with age. For example Fleetwood Mac made great record when they were all screwing each other and breaking each other's hearts. They were still singing those songs in their forties and fifties. There is probably not an audience for new material at that point.

So the question is whether the current library ages well enough for her to sing it when ahe's 45. For Katy Perry the answer is apparently leaning toward "no." Maybe when Taylor is 45 her fans will still want to hear about her being in the bleachers in high school. If they all enjoy her emotionally arrested mentality they probably will.

The Man
Ronan
22
The Best Day
Never Grow Up
The Lucky One
This is Me Trying
The Last Great American Dynasty
Peter
Marjorie
Long Live
Eyes Open
Only The Young
You need to calm down
Bad Blood
Shake It Off
Welcome to New York
Mean
You're on your own Kid
I did something bad
Clean
Fifteen
The Lakes
Soon You'll Get Better
Mad Woman
This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things
Hoax
Epiphany

Just to name some....

Again, many of you are showing you only know a surface level about her music but want to post on and on about it.

In any event these are all very teenage and young adult- sounding even if not about her terrible bad boyfriends that she is just a wee victim of. Poor Taylor.

Do you think "Bad Blood" will sound good when she's 45? That sounds like a song for a "woman" stuck at age 17. If she is singing it at 45 my response would be she needs therapy.

I think you're the one in need of therapy, let it go. If you don't like an artist and don't know anything about her body of work, why keep commenting? Many of the songs above are beautiful. I'm guessing you have not heard all of them.

You are the one attacking me for my opinion.

Maybe you need to examine why it is so important that everyone worships Taylor.

Do you also have a cat named Olivia? Are you the president of the Tay Fan Club? Did you wear a feather boa to the concert and post on Instagram so everyone would see how cool you are. Your emotional connection to her is a bigger problem than my observation that teenage complaint rick does not compute during the perimenopause years.

NP. In reading through the last couple of pages, it's clear that you're an insufferable bore. No one has to like Taylor Swift - but for someone who professes over and over just how much you DON'T like her, you sure know an awful lot about her. Very curious. At any rate, the PP is correct. She has an enormous body of work that isn't about teenage love or whatever it is you think she solely sings about. I know when I don't like a certain entertainer, I skip all threads pertaining to that person. You know, like an adult would do.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know who else actually sings her songs? If you actually listen to them it's not just one voice, it's several. I have a hard time figuring out when she's singing and when it's her backups. She's not all that but she has the best PR machine in the country.

Unless she's actually dueting with someone, it's all her. She records layers of her voice, looped through.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't hate her, but the twee forlorn music is annoying and not age appropriate. Maybe it's because she's lived in her dad's cocoon since she started. She should have more to do than the boyfriend complaint jam and secret Easter eggs.

I think the clock on this will run out once she gets married or has a kid. Look at Katy Perry. No one wants to hear her perform "Teenage Dream" now that she's engaged with a toddler. The boyfriend complaint songs will have to go once she marries.

I don’t get this kind of criticism. I really don’t care if anyone likes Taylor Swift or not but the whole she’s going to be fine, people are going to move on is weird. The Beatles aren’t exactly pumping out new albums, either, but they are icons and people still listen to them and our kids are discovering them and I’m betting the next generation will too.

Eventually all pop stars slow down. Of course she won’t be constantly pumping out music like she has for the last 20 years, but she has an insane amount of songs people know, and love. She has a few more albums in her in the coming years. As grows older it’s going to be interesting to see her collab with younger stars. She will probably reinvent herself a few times and I’m betting some of us will be going to see Taylor in her 60s just like Madonna.

Will she stay on top forever? No, nobody does. I don’t understand why that is a dig. It’s just a fact of life and I don’t see people saying that about other artists but for some reason people love to bring it up about Swift.

I guess my question is whether she can do anything but the relationship bops. For many singers, that's their main material and it dries up with age. For example Fleetwood Mac made great record when they were all screwing each other and breaking each other's hearts. They were still singing those songs in their forties and fifties. There is probably not an audience for new material at that point.

So the question is whether the current library ages well enough for her to sing it when ahe's 45. For Katy Perry the answer is apparently leaning toward "no." Maybe when Taylor is 45 her fans will still want to hear about her being in the bleachers in high school. If they all enjoy her emotionally arrested mentality they probably will.

The Man
Ronan
22
The Best Day
Never Grow Up
The Lucky One
This is Me Trying
The Last Great American Dynasty
Peter
Marjorie
Long Live
Eyes Open
Only The Young
You need to calm down
Bad Blood
Shake It Off
Welcome to New York
Mean
You're on your own Kid
I did something bad
Clean
Fifteen
The Lakes
Soon You'll Get Better
Mad Woman
This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things
Hoax
Epiphany

Just to name some....

Again, many of you are showing you only know a surface level about her music but want to post on and on about it.

In any event these are all very teenage and young adult- sounding even if not about her terrible bad boyfriends that she is just a wee victim of. Poor Taylor.

Do you think "Bad Blood" will sound good when she's 45? That sounds like a song for a "woman" stuck at age 17. If she is singing it at 45 my response would be she needs therapy.

I think you're the one in need of therapy, let it go. If you don't like an artist and don't know anything about her body of work, why keep commenting? Many of the songs above are beautiful. I'm guessing you have not heard all of them.

You are the one attacking me for my opinion.

Maybe you need to examine why it is so important that everyone worships Taylor.

Do you also have a cat named Olivia? Are you the president of the Tay Fan Club? Did you wear a feather boa to the concert and post on Instagram so everyone would see how cool you are. Your emotional connection to her is a bigger problem than my observation that teenage complaint rick does not compute during the perimenopause years.

Seriously, you need to take a step back. No one is attacking you for anything. People are simply pointing out that your “facts“ about Taylor are in fact not true. You’ve heard sound bites over the years about why people don’t like her and you’ve chosen to believe them.

You seem to be attacking an artist because they sing about love and it’s in the pop style of music. Love is timeless. Anyone can identify with songs about Love at any age. Please name artists that don’t sing about Love. Additionally if you don’t see a progression from Taylor singing about Love and her original album eg “our song” all the way to “the alchemy” on her latest album, I’m not sure what to tell you.

So a FACT may be she wrote some other songs on different topics, but the PPs OPINION is that all the songs she has heard suck, so why spend more time listening to music she doesn’t like?

If an artist doesn’t grab you when you listen to their popular work, no one has to make you listen to any more of her songs.
No one should say, you just can’t have an opinion because you have never listened to ALL her songs.

Heck, people VOTE in elections based on less information that the PP has about Swift and they get to have an opinion.

It is not realistic to believe that you can’t have an opinion about an artist based upon their hit singles. There isn’t enough time in our lives to listen to every album every artist has ever put out to make an opinion about that artist.

DP. I 100% disagree. I used to think Taylor Swift's music was fun, but sort of simplistic and young. Which is it was. The problem was, I hadn't listened to any of her more recent albums, just her country hits from when she was still a teen. My 20 yr. old daughter convinced me to listen to Midnights, Evermore, Folklore, and TTPD - all of which just blew me away. She has grown up and evolved in a way I wasn't aware of until I actually took the time to listen to her newer works.

You certainly don't have to bother listening to her body of work, but you do sound pretty silly basing your opinion of her on a handful of popular songs from long ago.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't hate her, but the twee forlorn music is annoying and not age appropriate. Maybe it's because she's lived in her dad's cocoon since she started. She should have more to do than the boyfriend complaint jam and secret Easter eggs.

I think the clock on this will run out once she gets married or has a kid. Look at Katy Perry. No one wants to hear her perform "Teenage Dream" now that she's engaged with a toddler. The boyfriend complaint songs will have to go once she marries.

I don’t get this kind of criticism. I really don’t care if anyone likes Taylor Swift or not but the whole she’s going to be fine, people are going to move on is weird. The Beatles aren’t exactly pumping out new albums, either, but they are icons and people still listen to them and our kids are discovering them and I’m betting the next generation will too.

Eventually all pop stars slow down. Of course she won’t be constantly pumping out music like she has for the last 20 years, but she has an insane amount of songs people know, and love. She has a few more albums in her in the coming years. As grows older it’s going to be interesting to see her collab with younger stars. She will probably reinvent herself a few times and I’m betting some of us will be going to see Taylor in her 60s just like Madonna.

Will she stay on top forever? No, nobody does. I don’t understand why that is a dig. It’s just a fact of life and I don’t see people saying that about other artists but for some reason people love to bring it up about Swift.

I guess my question is whether she can do anything but the relationship bops. For many singers, that's their main material and it dries up with age. For example Fleetwood Mac made great record when they were all screwing each other and breaking each other's hearts. They were still singing those songs in their forties and fifties. There is probably not an audience for new material at that point.

So the question is whether the current library ages well enough for her to sing it when ahe's 45. For Katy Perry the answer is apparently leaning toward "no." Maybe when Taylor is 45 her fans will still want to hear about her being in the bleachers in high school. If they all enjoy her emotionally arrested mentality they probably will.

The Man
Ronan
22
The Best Day
Never Grow Up
The Lucky One
This is Me Trying
The Last Great American Dynasty
Peter
Marjorie
Long Live
Eyes Open
Only The Young
You need to calm down
Bad Blood
Shake It Off
Welcome to New York
Mean
You're on your own Kid
I did something bad
Clean
Fifteen
The Lakes
Soon You'll Get Better
Mad Woman
This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things
Hoax
Epiphany

Just to name some....

Again, many of you are showing you only know a surface level about her music but want to post on and on about it.

In any event these are all very teenage and young adult- sounding even if not about her terrible bad boyfriends that she is just a wee victim of. Poor Taylor.

Do you think "Bad Blood" will sound good when she's 45? That sounds like a song for a "woman" stuck at age 17. If she is singing it at 45 my response would be she needs therapy.

I think you're the one in need of therapy, let it go. If you don't like an artist and don't know anything about her body of work, why keep commenting? Many of the songs above are beautiful. I'm guessing you have not heard all of them.

You are the one attacking me for my opinion.

Maybe you need to examine why it is so important that everyone worships Taylor.

Do you also have a cat named Olivia? Are you the president of the Tay Fan Club? Did you wear a feather boa to the concert and post on Instagram so everyone would see how cool you are. Your emotional connection to her is a bigger problem than my observation that teenage complaint rick does not compute during the perimenopause years.

Seriously, you need to take a step back. No one is attacking you for anything. People are simply pointing out that your “facts“ about Taylor are in fact not true. You’ve heard sound bites over the years about why people don’t like her and you’ve chosen to believe them.

You seem to be attacking an artist because they sing about love and it’s in the pop style of music. Love is timeless. Anyone can identify with songs about Love at any age. Please name artists that don’t sing about Love. Additionally if you don’t see a progression from Taylor singing about Love and her original album eg “our song” all the way to “the alchemy” on her latest album, I’m not sure what to tell you.

And it is indeed a fact that she sings a lot about ex-boyfriends. I don't happen to enjoy hearing a 35 year old millionaire drine on about her ex lovers and boyfriends. I realize her marker is teens and young women who like to sit in their emotional bathwater. So there is a market for the bad boyfriend bops and also the sweater song.

Even her announcement about the masters is her trying to look like a young girl. It's very creepy and sad. Happy women her age are married with children while she's still trying to look like a teenager. Reminds me of that 40 yo Wapo journalist, Taylor Lorenz, who is also deeply uncomfortable with her age and tries to dress and act like a hipster zoomer.

She looks like a very pretty 35 yr. old woman. Not sure what point you're trying to make. She looks completely normal.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't hate her, but the twee forlorn music is annoying and not age appropriate. Maybe it's because she's lived in her dad's cocoon since she started. She should have more to do than the boyfriend complaint jam and secret Easter eggs.

I think the clock on this will run out once she gets married or has a kid. Look at Katy Perry. No one wants to hear her perform "Teenage Dream" now that she's engaged with a toddler. The boyfriend complaint songs will have to go once she marries.

I don’t get this kind of criticism. I really don’t care if anyone likes Taylor Swift or not but the whole she’s going to be fine, people are going to move on is weird. The Beatles aren’t exactly pumping out new albums, either, but they are icons and people still listen to them and our kids are discovering them and I’m betting the next generation will too.

Eventually all pop stars slow down. Of course she won’t be constantly pumping out music like she has for the last 20 years, but she has an insane amount of songs people know, and love. She has a few more albums in her in the coming years. As grows older it’s going to be interesting to see her collab with younger stars. She will probably reinvent herself a few times and I’m betting some of us will be going to see Taylor in her 60s just like Madonna.

Will she stay on top forever? No, nobody does. I don’t understand why that is a dig. It’s just a fact of life and I don’t see people saying that about other artists but for some reason people love to bring it up about Swift.

I guess my question is whether she can do anything but the relationship bops. For many singers, that's their main material and it dries up with age. For example Fleetwood Mac made great record when they were all screwing each other and breaking each other's hearts. They were still singing those songs in their forties and fifties. There is probably not an audience for new material at that point.

So the question is whether the current library ages well enough for her to sing it when ahe's 45. For Katy Perry the answer is apparently leaning toward "no." Maybe when Taylor is 45 her fans will still want to hear about her being in the bleachers in high school. If they all enjoy her emotionally arrested mentality they probably will.

The Man
Ronan
22
The Best Day
Never Grow Up
The Lucky One
This is Me Trying
The Last Great American Dynasty
Peter
Marjorie
Long Live
Eyes Open
Only The Young
You need to calm down
Bad Blood
Shake It Off
Welcome to New York
Mean
You're on your own Kid
I did something bad
Clean
Fifteen
The Lakes
Soon You'll Get Better
Mad Woman
This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things
Hoax
Epiphany

Just to name some....

Again, many of you are showing you only know a surface level about her music but want to post on and on about it.

In any event these are all very teenage and young adult- sounding even if not about her terrible bad boyfriends that she is just a wee victim of. Poor Taylor.

Do you think "Bad Blood" will sound good when she's 45? That sounds like a song for a "woman" stuck at age 17. If she is singing it at 45 my response would be she needs therapy.

I think you're the one in need of therapy, let it go. If you don't like an artist and don't know anything about her body of work, why keep commenting? Many of the songs above are beautiful. I'm guessing you have not heard all of them.

You are the one attacking me for my opinion.

Maybe you need to examine why it is so important that everyone worships Taylor.

Do you also have a cat named Olivia? Are you the president of the Tay Fan Club? Did you wear a feather boa to the concert and post on Instagram so everyone would see how cool you are. Your emotional connection to her is a bigger problem than my observation that teenage complaint rick does not compute during the perimenopause years.

Seriously, you need to take a step back. No one is attacking you for anything. People are simply pointing out that your “facts“ about Taylor are in fact not true. You’ve heard sound bites over the years about why people don’t like her and you’ve chosen to believe them.

You seem to be attacking an artist because they sing about love and it’s in the pop style of music. Love is timeless. Anyone can identify with songs about Love at any age. Please name artists that don’t sing about Love. Additionally if you don’t see a progression from Taylor singing about Love and her original album eg “our song” all the way to “the alchemy” on her latest album, I’m not sure what to tell you.

So a FACT may be she wrote some other songs on different topics, but the PPs OPINION is that all the songs she has heard suck, so why spend more time listening to music she doesn’t like?

If an artist doesn’t grab you when you listen to their popular work, no one has to make you listen to any more of her songs.
No one should say, you just can’t have an opinion because you have never listened to ALL her songs.

Heck, people VOTE in elections based on less information that the PP has about Swift and they get to have an opinion.

It is not realistic to believe that you can’t have an opinion about an artist based upon their hit singles. There isn’t enough time in our lives to listen to every album every artist has ever put out to make an opinion about that artist.

DP. I 100% disagree. I used to think Taylor Swift's music was fun, but sort of simplistic and young. Which is it was. The problem was, I hadn't listened to any of her more recent albums, just her country hits from when she was still a teen. My 20 yr. old daughter convinced me to listen to Midnights, Evermore, Folklore, and TTPD - all of which just blew me away. She has grown up and evolved in a way I wasn't aware of until I actually took the time to listen to her newer works.

You certainly don't have to bother listening to her body of work, but you do sound pretty silly basing your opinion of her on a handful of popular songs from long ago.

You should be nicer to your past self and not say you were “pretty silly” for “thinking TS’s music away fun, but young”.

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Her development is stunted by being famous young. She is very immature for her age but it’s hard to grow up normally when you have fame and fortune young, you are a brand, and can’t live a normal life.

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I love her music. “Our song” is one of my favorites. No opinion about her personally, as I have met her and never will.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't hate her, but the twee forlorn music is annoying and not age appropriate. Maybe it's because she's lived in her dad's cocoon since she started. She should have more to do than the boyfriend complaint jam and secret Easter eggs.

I think the clock on this will run out once she gets married or has a kid. Look at Katy Perry. No one wants to hear her perform "Teenage Dream" now that she's engaged with a toddler. The boyfriend complaint songs will have to go once she marries.

I don’t get this kind of criticism. I really don’t care if anyone likes Taylor Swift or not but the whole she’s going to be fine, people are going to move on is weird. The Beatles aren’t exactly pumping out new albums, either, but they are icons and people still listen to them and our kids are discovering them and I’m betting the next generation will too.

Eventually all pop stars slow down. Of course she won’t be constantly pumping out music like she has for the last 20 years, but she has an insane amount of songs people know, and love. She has a few more albums in her in the coming years. As grows older it’s going to be interesting to see her collab with younger stars. She will probably reinvent herself a few times and I’m betting some of us will be going to see Taylor in her 60s just like Madonna.

Will she stay on top forever? No, nobody does. I don’t understand why that is a dig. It’s just a fact of life and I don’t see people saying that about other artists but for some reason people love to bring it up about Swift.

I guess my question is whether she can do anything but the relationship bops. For many singers, that's their main material and it dries up with age. For example Fleetwood Mac made great record when they were all screwing each other and breaking each other's hearts. They were still singing those songs in their forties and fifties. There is probably not an audience for new material at that point.

So the question is whether the current library ages well enough for her to sing it when ahe's 45. For Katy Perry the answer is apparently leaning toward "no." Maybe when Taylor is 45 her fans will still want to hear about her being in the bleachers in high school. If they all enjoy her emotionally arrested mentality they probably will.

The Man
Ronan
22
The Best Day
Never Grow Up
The Lucky One
This is Me Trying
The Last Great American Dynasty
Peter
Marjorie
Long Live
Eyes Open
Only The Young
You need to calm down
Bad Blood
Shake It Off
Welcome to New York
Mean
You're on your own Kid
I did something bad
Clean
Fifteen
The Lakes
Soon You'll Get Better
Mad Woman
This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things
Hoax
Epiphany

Just to name some....

Again, many of you are showing you only know a surface level about her music but want to post on and on about it.

In any event these are all very teenage and young adult- sounding even if not about her terrible bad boyfriends that she is just a wee victim of. Poor Taylor.

Do you think "Bad Blood" will sound good when she's 45? That sounds like a song for a "woman" stuck at age 17. If she is singing it at 45 my response would be she needs therapy.

I think you're the one in need of therapy, let it go. If you don't like an artist and don't know anything about her body of work, why keep commenting? Many of the songs above are beautiful. I'm guessing you have not heard all of them.

You are the one attacking me for my opinion.

Maybe you need to examine why it is so important that everyone worships Taylor.

Do you also have a cat named Olivia? Are you the president of the Tay Fan Club? Did you wear a feather boa to the concert and post on Instagram so everyone would see how cool you are. Your emotional connection to her is a bigger problem than my observation that teenage complaint rick does not compute during the perimenopause years.

Seriously, you need to take a step back. No one is attacking you for anything. People are simply pointing out that your “facts“ about Taylor are in fact not true. You’ve heard sound bites over the years about why people don’t like her and you’ve chosen to believe them.

You seem to be attacking an artist because they sing about love and it’s in the pop style of music. Love is timeless. Anyone can identify with songs about Love at any age. Please name artists that don’t sing about Love. Additionally if you don’t see a progression from Taylor singing about Love and her original album eg “our song” all the way to “the alchemy” on her latest album, I’m not sure what to tell you.

And it is indeed a fact that she sings a lot about ex-boyfriends. I don't happen to enjoy hearing a 35 year old millionaire drine on about her ex lovers and boyfriends. I realize her marker is teens and young women who like to sit in their emotional bathwater. So there is a market for the bad boyfriend bops and also the sweater song.

Even her announcement about the masters is her trying to look like a young girl. It's very creepy and sad. Happy women her age are married with children while she's still trying to look like a teenager. Reminds me of that 40 yo Wapo journalist, Taylor Lorenz, who is also deeply uncomfortable with her age and tries to dress and act like a hipster zoomer.

She looks like a very pretty 35 yr. old woman. Not sure what point you're trying to make. She looks completely normal.

Yea, I don’t get it. She looks like a woman in her 30s. I don’t get young girl vibes from this.