MCPS closing/delaying on Monday?

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Anonymous wrote:What I am loving about this thread is that it shows MCPS cannot please everyone. We have people complaining that the school is closed, that there is not virtual option, and kids are missing a day of school work. And we have people complaining that teachers emails work assignments to students on a snow day—“contact the principal” someone suggested.

DCUM posters never fail to disappoint.

The consensus from parents seems to be that schools should quickly schedule a meaningful make-up day that occurs as soon as possible.

Really? OK, try getting a consensus on when the make up day should be. It is always the same. People complaining that the way things are being done is wrong, but so solutions offered.

We already picked the days. If people don't like them, take it up on next year's calendar. 1/29 is the obvious choice.

When is the final grading and report card stuff supposed to happen? Do you have an answer for that? MCPS knows that teachers do real work on 1/29. If they make it a school day, schools will probably house kids in the auditorium and show movies so teachers can get their shit done. That might be just fine with some folks who are looking for free babysitting

From a supervision standpoint, I don’t think middle schools will do that, but individual teachers may need to show movies in their classrooms. The fact that parents would rather have that on 1/29 than mid June is telling about priorities.

Or they could teach.

Shut off the internet and have the principal and APs verifyiny there's no movie playing. Apparently we can't trust teachers to be professionals.

Are you slow? They’ll be doing the grading that was supposed to be taking place that day.

And who is “we?” Because you’ll be “shutting off” nothing.

If DCUM has taught me anything, it’s that teachers are supposed to use all of their off hours to grade (nights, weekends). They should get it done without complaining because they get amazing, restful summers off.

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Anonymous wrote:But will childcare open tomorrow?

Don’t have kids if you are this dependent on others raising them.

Go away. People like you are exhausting.

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I do t understand why people are bitterly debating this. I’m glad I’m type B and don’t GAF.

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Anonymous wrote:What I am loving about this thread is that it shows MCPS cannot please everyone. We have people complaining that the school is closed, that there is not virtual option, and kids are missing a day of school work. And we have people complaining that teachers emails work assignments to students on a snow day—“contact the principal” someone suggested.

DCUM posters never fail to disappoint.

The consensus from parents seems to be that schools should quickly schedule a meaningful make-up day that occurs as soon as possible.

Really? OK, try getting a consensus on when the make up day should be. It is always the same. People complaining that the way things are being done is wrong, but so solutions offered.

We already picked the days. If people don't like them, take it up on next year's calendar. 1/29 is the obvious choice.

When is the final grading and report card stuff supposed to happen? Do you have an answer for that? MCPS knows that teachers do real work on 1/29. If they make it a school day, schools will probably house kids in the auditorium and show movies so teachers can get their shit done. That might be just fine with some folks who are looking for free babysitting

From a supervision standpoint, I don’t think middle schools will do that, but individual teachers may need to show movies in their classrooms. The fact that parents would rather have that on 1/29 than mid June is telling about priorities.

Or they could teach.

Shut off the internet and have the principal and APs verifyiny there's no movie playing. Apparently we can't trust teachers to be professionals.

I don’t think you have kids in MCPS if you believe that
a) if the internet was shut off, much teaching could occur. Attendance can’t even be taken w/o the internet.

Or

b) principals and APs would leave their offices and walk classroom to classroom to verify anything.

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Anonymous wrote:What I am loving about this thread is that it shows MCPS cannot please everyone. We have people complaining that the school is closed, that there is not virtual option, and kids are missing a day of school work. And we have people complaining that teachers emails work assignments to students on a snow day—“contact the principal” someone suggested.

DCUM posters never fail to disappoint.

The consensus from parents seems to be that schools should quickly schedule a meaningful make-up day that occurs as soon as possible.

Really? OK, try getting a consensus on when the make up day should be. It is always the same. People complaining that the way things are being done is wrong, but so solutions offered.

We already picked the days. If people don't like them, take it up on next year's calendar. 1/29 is the obvious choice.

When is the final grading and report card stuff supposed to happen? Do you have an answer for that? MCPS knows that teachers do real work on 1/29. If they make it a school day, schools will probably house kids in the auditorium and show movies so teachers can get their shit done. That might be just fine with some folks who are looking for free babysitting

From a supervision standpoint, I don’t think middle schools will do that, but individual teachers may need to show movies in their classrooms. The fact that parents would rather have that on 1/29 than mid June is telling about priorities.

Or they could teach.

Shut off the internet and have the principal and APs verifyiny there's no movie playing. Apparently we can't trust teachers to be professionals.

Are you slow? They’ll be doing the grading that was supposed to be taking place that day.

And who is “we?” Because you’ll be “shutting off” nothing.

Ok, but it's designated as a potential makeup day. Guys, if you don't want these days to potentially become instructional days, I urge you to submit your feedback on the calendar to MCPS and ask them to build more actual snow days into the school year. Until they do, this is just the way it is.

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Anonymous wrote:What I am loving about this thread is that it shows MCPS cannot please everyone. We have people complaining that the school is closed, that there is not virtual option, and kids are missing a day of school work. And we have people complaining that teachers emails work assignments to students on a snow day—“contact the principal” someone suggested.

DCUM posters never fail to disappoint.

The consensus from parents seems to be that schools should quickly schedule a meaningful make-up day that occurs as soon as possible.

Really? OK, try getting a consensus on when the make up day should be. It is always the same. People complaining that the way things are being done is wrong, but so solutions offered.

We already picked the days. If people don't like them, take it up on next year's calendar. 1/29 is the obvious choice.

When is the final grading and report card stuff supposed to happen? Do you have an answer for that? MCPS knows that teachers do real work on 1/29. If they make it a school day, schools will probably house kids in the auditorium and show movies so teachers can get their shit done. That might be just fine with some folks who are looking for free babysitting

From a supervision standpoint, I don’t think middle schools will do that, but individual teachers may need to show movies in their classrooms. The fact that parents would rather have that on 1/29 than mid June is telling about priorities.

Or they could teach.

Shut off the internet and have the principal and APs verifyiny there's no movie playing. Apparently we can't trust teachers to be professionals.

Are you slow? They’ll be doing the grading that was supposed to be taking place that day.

And who is “we?” Because you’ll be “shutting off” nothing.

Ok, but it's designated as a potential makeup day. Guys, if you don't want these days to potentially become instructional days, I urge you to submit your feedback on the calendar to MCPS and ask them to build more actual snow days into the school year. Until they do, this is just the way it is.

We do submit feedback. They don’t ever do anything with that feedback. They analyze the expected outcomes of each option. If they build in more snow days and we don’t use them, then people will be mad. So they gamble that we won’t need them and instead not build in the days.

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Anonymous wrote:What I am loving about this thread is that it shows MCPS cannot please everyone. We have people complaining that the school is closed, that there is not virtual option, and kids are missing a day of school work. And we have people complaining that teachers emails work assignments to students on a snow day—“contact the principal” someone suggested.

DCUM posters never fail to disappoint.

The consensus from parents seems to be that schools should quickly schedule a meaningful make-up day that occurs as soon as possible.

Really? OK, try getting a consensus on when the make up day should be. It is always the same. People complaining that the way things are being done is wrong, but so solutions offered.

We already picked the days. If people don't like them, take it up on next year's calendar. 1/29 is the obvious choice.

When is the final grading and report card stuff supposed to happen? Do you have an answer for that? MCPS knows that teachers do real work on 1/29. If they make it a school day, schools will probably house kids in the auditorium and show movies so teachers can get their shit done. That might be just fine with some folks who are looking for free babysitting

From a supervision standpoint, I don’t think middle schools will do that, but individual teachers may need to show movies in their classrooms. The fact that parents would rather have that on 1/29 than mid June is telling about priorities.

Neither day will be very meaningful, let's be real. MCPS could schedule more instructional days that everyone would plan for so that makeup days don't need to be used, but they chose not to. The need to do a makeup day is not because of parents. It is a legal obligation but MCPS could make it less onerous on everyone by not stubbornly fixating on doing the bare minimum.

They used to do that before Hogan added rules about when school had to begin and end. It was 184 days.
Parents complicated about that too. And

What? Those Hogan rules were reversed. And stop blaming "parents" for MCPS's poor decisionmaking. Last year's "asynchronous" day was a huge tell that MCPS DGAF about educating kids.

Chill out. It was one day. MCPS has lots of competing priorities and a majority of the budget is sucked up by special education. There is no perfect solution

Why are you making stuff up? This is just plain false. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, given the reputation of MCPS these days.

I believe it is true for practically every school district. Especially when you include lawsuits and private placements

It's not true for MCPS nor is it true for any other school district. Go crawl back under your bridge.

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Anonymous wrote:What I am loving about this thread is that it shows MCPS cannot please everyone. We have people complaining that the school is closed, that there is not virtual option, and kids are missing a day of school work. And we have people complaining that teachers emails work assignments to students on a snow day—“contact the principal” someone suggested.

DCUM posters never fail to disappoint.

The consensus from parents seems to be that schools should quickly schedule a meaningful make-up day that occurs as soon as possible.

Really? OK, try getting a consensus on when the make up day should be. It is always the same. People complaining that the way things are being done is wrong, but so solutions offered.

We already picked the days. If people don't like them, take it up on next year's calendar. 1/29 is the obvious choice.

When is the final grading and report card stuff supposed to happen? Do you have an answer for that? MCPS knows that teachers do real work on 1/29. If they make it a school day, schools will probably house kids in the auditorium and show movies so teachers can get their shit done. That might be just fine with some folks who are looking for free babysitting

From a supervision standpoint, I don’t think middle schools will do that, but individual teachers may need to show movies in their classrooms. The fact that parents would rather have that on 1/29 than mid June is telling about priorities.

Or they could teach.

Shut off the internet and have the principal and APs verifyiny there's no movie playing. Apparently we can't trust teachers to be professionals.

Are you slow? They’ll be doing the grading that was supposed to be taking place that day.

And who is “we?” Because you’ll be “shutting off” nothing.

Ok, but it's designated as a potential makeup day. Guys, if you don't want these days to potentially become instructional days, I urge you to submit your feedback on the calendar to MCPS and ask them to build more actual snow days into the school year. Until they do, this is just the way it is.

Exactly. We need more snow days built-in from the start, and we need to automatically select the next available make-up day if we go over.

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Anonymous wrote:What I am loving about this thread is that it shows MCPS cannot please everyone. We have people complaining that the school is closed, that there is not virtual option, and kids are missing a day of school work. And we have people complaining that teachers emails work assignments to students on a snow day—“contact the principal” someone suggested.

DCUM posters never fail to disappoint.

The consensus from parents seems to be that schools should quickly schedule a meaningful make-up day that occurs as soon as possible.

Really? OK, try getting a consensus on when the make up day should be. It is always the same. People complaining that the way things are being done is wrong, but so solutions offered.

We already picked the days. If people don't like them, take it up on next year's calendar. 1/29 is the obvious choice.

When is the final grading and report card stuff supposed to happen? Do you have an answer for that? MCPS knows that teachers do real work on 1/29. If they make it a school day, schools will probably house kids in the auditorium and show movies so teachers can get their shit done. That might be just fine with some folks who are looking for free babysitting

From a supervision standpoint, I don’t think middle schools will do that, but individual teachers may need to show movies in their classrooms. The fact that parents would rather have that on 1/29 than mid June is telling about priorities.

Neither day will be very meaningful, let's be real. MCPS could schedule more instructional days that everyone would plan for so that makeup days don't need to be used, but they chose not to. The need to do a makeup day is not because of parents. It is a legal obligation but MCPS could make it less onerous on everyone by not stubbornly fixating on doing the bare minimum.

They used to do that before Hogan added rules about when school had to begin and end. It was 184 days.
Parents complicated about that too. And

What? Those Hogan rules were reversed. And stop blaming "parents" for MCPS's poor decisionmaking. Last year's "asynchronous" day was a huge tell that MCPS DGAF about educating kids.

Chill out. It was one day. MCPS has lots of competing priorities and a majority of the budget is sucked up by special education. There is no perfect solution

There were two perfectly good options for an in-person make-up day. Instead they went with an at-home worksheet day because the BoE serves MCEA rather than students.

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Anonymous wrote:What I am loving about this thread is that it shows MCPS cannot please everyone. We have people complaining that the school is closed, that there is not virtual option, and kids are missing a day of school work. And we have people complaining that teachers emails work assignments to students on a snow day—“contact the principal” someone suggested.

DCUM posters never fail to disappoint.

The consensus from parents seems to be that schools should quickly schedule a meaningful make-up day that occurs as soon as possible.

Really? OK, try getting a consensus on when the make up day should be. It is always the same. People complaining that the way things are being done is wrong, but so solutions offered.

We already picked the days. If people don't like them, take it up on next year's calendar. 1/29 is the obvious choice.

When is the final grading and report card stuff supposed to happen? Do you have an answer for that? MCPS knows that teachers do real work on 1/29. If they make it a school day, schools will probably house kids in the auditorium and show movies so teachers can get their shit done. That might be just fine with some folks who are looking for free babysitting

From a supervision standpoint, I don’t think middle schools will do that, but individual teachers may need to show movies in their classrooms. The fact that parents would rather have that on 1/29 than mid June is telling about priorities.

Neither day will be very meaningful, let's be real. MCPS could schedule more instructional days that everyone would plan for so that makeup days don't need to be used, but they chose not to. The need to do a makeup day is not because of parents. It is a legal obligation but MCPS could make it less onerous on everyone by not stubbornly fixating on doing the bare minimum.

They used to do that before Hogan added rules about when school had to begin and end. It was 184 days.
Parents complicated about that too. And

What? Those Hogan rules were reversed. And stop blaming "parents" for MCPS's poor decisionmaking. Last year's "asynchronous" day was a huge tell that MCPS DGAF about educating kids.

Chill out. It was one day. MCPS has lots of competing priorities and a majority of the budget is sucked up by special education. There is no perfect solution

There were two perfectly good options for an in-person make-up day. Instead they went with an at-home worksheet day because the BoE serves MCEA rather than students.

So the BoE shouldn’t be concerned with teacher workload and teacher retention?

Personally, I think that’s the biggest issue right now. Who is going to teach your children if teachers keep fleeing from a job that abuses them?

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Anonymous wrote:What I am loving about this thread is that it shows MCPS cannot please everyone. We have people complaining that the school is closed, that there is not virtual option, and kids are missing a day of school work. And we have people complaining that teachers emails work assignments to students on a snow day—“contact the principal” someone suggested.

DCUM posters never fail to disappoint.

The consensus from parents seems to be that schools should quickly schedule a meaningful make-up day that occurs as soon as possible.

Really? OK, try getting a consensus on when the make up day should be. It is always the same. People complaining that the way things are being done is wrong, but so solutions offered.

We already picked the days. If people don't like them, take it up on next year's calendar. 1/29 is the obvious choice.

When is the final grading and report card stuff supposed to happen? Do you have an answer for that? MCPS knows that teachers do real work on 1/29. If they make it a school day, schools will probably house kids in the auditorium and show movies so teachers can get their shit done. That might be just fine with some folks who are looking for free babysitting

From a supervision standpoint, I don’t think middle schools will do that, but individual teachers may need to show movies in their classrooms. The fact that parents would rather have that on 1/29 than mid June is telling about priorities.

Neither day will be very meaningful, let's be real. MCPS could schedule more instructional days that everyone would plan for so that makeup days don't need to be used, but they chose not to. The need to do a makeup day is not because of parents. It is a legal obligation but MCPS could make it less onerous on everyone by not stubbornly fixating on doing the bare minimum.

They used to do that before Hogan added rules about when school had to begin and end. It was 184 days.
Parents complicated about that too. And

What? Those Hogan rules were reversed. And stop blaming "parents" for MCPS's poor decisionmaking. Last year's "asynchronous" day was a huge tell that MCPS DGAF about educating kids.

Chill out. It was one day. MCPS has lots of competing priorities and a majority of the budget is sucked up by special education. There is no perfect solution

There were two perfectly good options for an in-person make-up day. Instead they went with an at-home worksheet day because the BoE serves MCEA rather than students.

So the BoE shouldn’t be concerned with teacher workload and teacher retention?

Personally, I think that’s the biggest issue right now. Who is going to teach your children if teachers keep fleeing from a job that abuses them?

Well, at least you acknowledge the Board's priorities. But it would be nice if they would find ways to do that that didn't involve throwing kids under the bus.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers get very few perks. This is a small one. Why take away something fun and spontaneous? Life has become over scheduled for everyone. Snow days are a chance to slow down. It is important to appreciate the wonder of nature

Snow days don't "slow down" when you still have to work. Quite the opposite.

Why are you blaming teachers. Teachers do not make this decision. What do you want us to do?

Who's blaming teachers for the snow day?

We're blaming teachers for pushing back on a sensible make-up day.

1/29 is not a sensible make-up day if you need that day to finish grading 120 projects that were turned in on or just before 1/24.

If you want teachers to give challenging assessments, give us sufficient time to grade the work. Even if 1/29 remains a professional day, I will need to grade all weekend, taking breaks only for bodily necessities. Rushing through the evaluation of something that was worked on for weeks is unfair to the student.

The other alternative is that I move up the due date three or four days to accommodate the loss of grading time on 1/29.

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Anonymous wrote:What I am loving about this thread is that it shows MCPS cannot please everyone. We have people complaining that the school is closed, that there is not virtual option, and kids are missing a day of school work. And we have people complaining that teachers emails work assignments to students on a snow day—“contact the principal” someone suggested.

DCUM posters never fail to disappoint.

The consensus from parents seems to be that schools should quickly schedule a meaningful make-up day that occurs as soon as possible.

Really? OK, try getting a consensus on when the make up day should be. It is always the same. People complaining that the way things are being done is wrong, but so solutions offered.

We already picked the days. If people don't like them, take it up on next year's calendar. 1/29 is the obvious choice.

When is the final grading and report card stuff supposed to happen? Do you have an answer for that? MCPS knows that teachers do real work on 1/29. If they make it a school day, schools will probably house kids in the auditorium and show movies so teachers can get their shit done. That might be just fine with some folks who are looking for free babysitting

From a supervision standpoint, I don’t think middle schools will do that, but individual teachers may need to show movies in their classrooms. The fact that parents would rather have that on 1/29 than mid June is telling about priorities.

Or they could teach.

Shut off the internet and have the principal and APs verifyiny there's no movie playing. Apparently we can't trust teachers to be professionals.

Are you slow? They’ll be doing the grading that was supposed to be taking place that day.

And who is “we?” Because you’ll be “shutting off” nothing.

Ok, but it's designated as a potential makeup day. Guys, if you don't want these days to potentially become instructional days, I urge you to submit your feedback on the calendar to MCPS and ask them to build more actual snow days into the school year. Until they do, this is just the way it is.

We do submit feedback. They don’t ever do anything with that feedback. They analyze the expected outcomes of each option. If they build in more snow days and we don’t use them, then people will be mad. So they gamble that we won’t need them and instead not build in the days.

Someone will always be mad! Teachers are mad now about potentially losing a grading day. Given that we've run out of snow days pretty early in the winter for two years straight, adding a couple more snow days is a perectly reasonable thing to do.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers get very few perks. This is a small one. Why take away something fun and spontaneous? Life has become over scheduled for everyone. Snow days are a chance to slow down. It is important to appreciate the wonder of nature

Snow days don't "slow down" when you still have to work. Quite the opposite.

Why are you blaming teachers. Teachers do not make this decision. What do you want us to do?

Who's blaming teachers for the snow day?

We're blaming teachers for pushing back on a sensible make-up day.

1/29 is not a sensible make-up day if you need that day to finish grading 120 projects that were turned in on or just before 1/24.

If you want teachers to give challenging assessments, give us sufficient time to grade the work. Even if 1/29 remains a professional day, I will need to grade all weekend, taking breaks only for bodily necessities. Rushing through the evaluation of something that was worked on for weeks is unfair to the student.

The other alternative is that I move up the due date three or four days to accommodate the loss of grading time on 1/29.

What is a sensible make-up day then? You want to use the earliest one possible to mitigate not having enough due to future storms

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers get very few perks. This is a small one. Why take away something fun and spontaneous? Life has become over scheduled for everyone. Snow days are a chance to slow down. It is important to appreciate the wonder of nature

Snow days don't "slow down" when you still have to work. Quite the opposite.

Why are you blaming teachers. Teachers do not make this decision. What do you want us to do?

Who's blaming teachers for the snow day?

We're blaming teachers for pushing back on a sensible make-up day.

1/29 is not a sensible make-up day if you need that day to finish grading 120 projects that were turned in on or just before 1/24.

If you want teachers to give challenging assessments, give us sufficient time to grade the work. Even if 1/29 remains a professional day, I will need to grade all weekend, taking breaks only for bodily necessities. Rushing through the evaluation of something that was worked on for weeks is unfair to the student.

The other alternative is that I move up the due date three or four days to accommodate the loss of grading time on 1/29.

Out of curiosity, has the union ever pushed back about deginating this day as a potential makeup day?