FCPS Early Release Mondays

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think doing the training Monday-Wednesday of Thanksgiving week is a great solution. MKe those days k-12 teacher workdays/training days, no need to close early on Mondags.


Those 3 days still aren’t enough to complete the entire training, and they’ll run into issues with staff that already has travel plans for that Wednesday, since it’s currently a holiday.


Clearly, changing the expected instructional schedule is not an issue with FCPS so this should be no biggie. If its ok to close early unexpectedly a whole bunch of days, switching a day off to a work day months from now shouldn't be an issue.


The difference is the current plan doesn’t change the employee calendar. Employees already planned on working those days. That’s not the case for the day before Thanksgiving.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There are many problems with FCPS, some bigger than others. At one time they started after Labor Day and they had longer breaks. That had to change because working parents had to find child care for 5 days, so they changed it to multiple 3 day weekends and start the school year earlier. The same parents had issue with that too. To the people who are upset because their kids aren’t learning anything, the reason is because you all treated as childcare and not education. There is absolutely no reason why they need to do SOL testing in May when the school is open through mid June. That’s why your kids don’t learn anything at the end of the school year!

Another issue, the FCPS is too big! Each Pyramid should be its own school district, that way they can cater to the specific needs of the community and not to the entire county.

Another huge problem is that they implement new curriculum without ever thinking it through. And then switch it again before they give it a good chance to actually work.

Teachers don’t need workdays in order to get things done, they don’t need to have special days for continuing education. That can all be done on their own time during the summer or on the weekend. There is absolutely no way the county could afford to pay teachers for year-roundwork. Whoever even suggested that is a joke!



The state’s testing window for ES closed June 5. They need time to do make-ups and expedited retakes before then.

State law would have to change to allow a county to break into smaller districts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think doing the training Monday-Wednesday of Thanksgiving week is a great solution. MKe those days k-12 teacher workdays/training days, no need to close early on Mondags.


Those 3 days still aren’t enough to complete the entire training, and they’ll run into issues with staff that already has travel plans for that Wednesday, since it’s currently a holiday.


Clearly, changing the expected instructional schedule is not an issue with FCPS so this should be no biggie. If its ok to close early unexpectedly a whole bunch of days, switching a day off to a work day months from now shouldn't be an issue.


The difference is the current plan doesn’t change the employee calendar. Employees already planned on working those days. That’s not the case for the day before Thanksgiving.


Well, parents already planned on working all of these Monday afternoons. So I guess there will need to be some shared pain. Since we’re in this “together” right?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think doing the training Monday-Wednesday of Thanksgiving week is a great solution. MKe those days k-12 teacher workdays/training days, no need to close early on Mondags.


Those 3 days still aren’t enough to complete the entire training, and they’ll run into issues with staff that already has travel plans for that Wednesday, since it’s currently a holiday.


Clearly, changing the expected instructional schedule is not an issue with FCPS so this should be no biggie. If its ok to close early unexpectedly a whole bunch of days, switching a day off to a work day months from now shouldn't be an issue.


The difference is the current plan doesn’t change the employee calendar. Employees already planned on working those days. That’s not the case for the day before Thanksgiving.


Well, parents already planned on working all of these Monday afternoons. So I guess there will need to be some shared pain. Since we’re in this “together” right?


They also didn’t plan on the expensive of paying us.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There are many problems with FCPS, some bigger than others. At one time they started after Labor Day and they had longer breaks. That had to change because working parents had to find child care for 5 days, so they changed it to multiple 3 day weekends and start the school year earlier. The same parents had issue with that too. To the people who are upset because their kids aren’t learning anything, the reason is because you all treated as childcare and not education. There is absolutely no reason why they need to do SOL testing in May when the school is open through mid June. That’s why your kids don’t learn anything at the end of the school year!

Another issue, the FCPS is too big! Each Pyramid should be its own school district, that way they can cater to the specific needs of the community and not to the entire county.

Another huge problem is that they implement new curriculum without ever thinking it through. And then switch it again before they give it a good chance to actually work.

Teachers don’t need workdays in order to get things done, they don’t need to have special days for continuing education. That can all be done on their own time during the summer or on the weekend. There is absolutely no way the county could afford to pay teachers for year-roundwork. Whoever even suggested that is a joke!


A lot of teachers pay for their own continuing education for recertification and/or to get new endorsements.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think doing the training Monday-Wednesday of Thanksgiving week is a great solution. MKe those days k-12 teacher workdays/training days, no need to close early on Mondags.


Those 3 days still aren’t enough to complete the entire training, and they’ll run into issues with staff that already has travel plans for that Wednesday, since it’s currently a holiday.


Clearly, changing the expected instructional schedule is not an issue with FCPS so this should be no biggie. If its ok to close early unexpectedly a whole bunch of days, switching a day off to a work day months from now shouldn't be an issue.


The difference is the current plan doesn’t change the employee calendar. Employees already planned on working those days. That’s not the case for the day before Thanksgiving.


Well, parents already planned on working all of these Monday afternoons. So I guess there will need to be some shared pain. Since we’re in this “together” right?


They also didn’t plan on the expensive of paying us.


Then the pain gets shared one step further to the full tax base. Decisions have consequences.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think doing the training Monday-Wednesday of Thanksgiving week is a great solution. MKe those days k-12 teacher workdays/training days, no need to close early on Mondags.


Those 3 days still aren’t enough to complete the entire training, and they’ll run into issues with staff that already has travel plans for that Wednesday, since it’s currently a holiday.


Clearly, changing the expected instructional schedule is not an issue with FCPS so this should be no biggie. If its ok to close early unexpectedly a whole bunch of days, switching a day off to a work day months from now shouldn't be an issue.


The difference is the current plan doesn’t change the employee calendar. Employees already planned on working those days. That’s not the case for the day before Thanksgiving.


Well, parents already planned on working all of these Monday afternoons. So I guess there will need to be some shared pain. Since we’re in this “together” right?


FCPS is the employer. They need to make time to provide their employees with this training. They made a decision. FCPS is not your employer.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think doing the training Monday-Wednesday of Thanksgiving week is a great solution. MKe those days k-12 teacher workdays/training days, no need to close early on Mondags.


Those 3 days still aren’t enough to complete the entire training, and they’ll run into issues with staff that already has travel plans for that Wednesday, since it’s currently a holiday.


Clearly, changing the expected instructional schedule is not an issue with FCPS so this should be no biggie. If its ok to close early unexpectedly a whole bunch of days, switching a day off to a work day months from now shouldn't be an issue.


The difference is the current plan doesn’t change the employee calendar. Employees already planned on working those days. That’s not the case for the day before Thanksgiving.


Well, parents already planned on working all of these Monday afternoons. So I guess there will need to be some shared pain. Since we’re in this “together” right?


FCPS is the employer. They need to make time to provide their employees with this training. They made a decision. FCPS is not your employer.



Correct— FCPS is a service provider. And they are changing the terms of those services on the backs of one group (parents) to the benefit of another group (teachers/staff) while shortchanging a third group (students).

The only way in which they are held responsible for this decision is if voters hold their school board representatives accountable in November. Which should be easy since it will be after two disastrous early-releases are already behind us. I am writing my board members to say I will be eagerly seeking his proposals to keep children in the classroom.
Anonymous
Can you ALL not read?

“We understand that for some families, early release days may present a significant challenge. With that in mind — where necessary — FCPS will provide no-cost opportunities for students to remain at school until their regular dismissal time.”

FCPS will provide NO COST opportunities for students to remain at school.

NO COST.

REMAIN AT SCHOOL.

So, if this is a burden, your kid can stay at school. Some parents may want/be able to have their kids at the earlier dismissal.

38 pages of people griping about the burden of early dismissal, when early dismissal is optional.

This is one year only to do the training that the state pushed through without thinking of the impacts of rushed legislation. So many of you are griping day after day on here that your kids can’t read, and now all of the teachers will be trained in the science of reading and you’re STILL complaining.

Insufferable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Can you ALL not read?

“We understand that for some families, early release days may present a significant challenge. With that in mind — where necessary — FCPS will provide no-cost opportunities for students to remain at school until their regular dismissal time.”

FCPS will provide NO COST opportunities for students to remain at school.

NO COST.

REMAIN AT SCHOOL.

So, if this is a burden, your kid can stay at school. Some parents may want/be able to have their kids at the earlier dismissal.

38 pages of people griping about the burden of early dismissal, when early dismissal is optional.

This is one year only to do the training that the state pushed through without thinking of the impacts of rushed legislation. So many of you are griping day after day on here that your kids can’t read, and now all of the teachers will be trained in the science of reading and you’re STILL complaining.

Insufferable.


No cost to do what? To sit in a cafeteria watching movies? To stand in the gym?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Can you ALL not read?

“We understand that for some families, early release days may present a significant challenge. With that in mind — where necessary — FCPS will provide no-cost opportunities for students to remain at school until their regular dismissal time.”

FCPS will provide NO COST opportunities for students to remain at school.

NO COST.

REMAIN AT SCHOOL.

So, if this is a burden, your kid can stay at school. Some parents may want/be able to have their kids at the earlier dismissal.

38 pages of people griping about the burden of early dismissal, when early dismissal is optional.

This is one year only to do the training that the state pushed through without thinking of the impacts of rushed legislation. So many of you are griping day after day on here that your kids can’t read, and now all of the teachers will be trained in the science of reading and you’re STILL complaining.

Insufferable.


Who decides what’s “necessary”?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think doing the training Monday-Wednesday of Thanksgiving week is a great solution. MKe those days k-12 teacher workdays/training days, no need to close early on Mondags.


Those 3 days still aren’t enough to complete the entire training, and they’ll run into issues with staff that already has travel plans for that Wednesday, since it’s currently a holiday.


Clearly, changing the expected instructional schedule is not an issue with FCPS so this should be no biggie. If its ok to close early unexpectedly a whole bunch of days, switching a day off to a work day months from now shouldn't be an issue.


The difference is the current plan doesn’t change the employee calendar. Employees already planned on working those days. That’s not the case for the day before Thanksgiving.


Well, parents already planned on working all of these Monday afternoons. So I guess there will need to be some shared pain. Since we’re in this “together” right?


FCPS is the employer. They need to make time to provide their employees with this training. They made a decision. FCPS is not your employer.



Correct— FCPS is a service provider. And they are changing the terms of those services on the backs of one group (parents) to the benefit of another group (teachers/staff) while shortchanging a third group (students).

The only way in which they are held responsible for this decision is if voters hold their school board representatives accountable in November. Which should be easy since it will be after two disastrous early-releases are already behind us. I am writing my board members to say I will be eagerly seeking his proposals to keep children in the classroom.


Disastrous? Hardly.

The students can stay in the school as an option.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can you ALL not read?

“We understand that for some families, early release days may present a significant challenge. With that in mind — where necessary — FCPS will provide no-cost opportunities for students to remain at school until their regular dismissal time.”

FCPS will provide NO COST opportunities for students to remain at school.

NO COST.

REMAIN AT SCHOOL.

So, if this is a burden, your kid can stay at school. Some parents may want/be able to have their kids at the earlier dismissal.

38 pages of people griping about the burden of early dismissal, when early dismissal is optional.

This is one year only to do the training that the state pushed through without thinking of the impacts of rushed legislation. So many of you are griping day after day on here that your kids can’t read, and now all of the teachers will be trained in the science of reading and you’re STILL complaining.

Insufferable.


No cost to do what? To sit in a cafeteria watching movies? To stand in the gym?


Maybe, we don’t know the choices yet. You could also find alternate care. The majority parents on this page complain that no learning is happening anyways, so this should be right in line.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Can you ALL not read?

“We understand that for some families, early release days may present a significant challenge. With that in mind — where necessary — FCPS will provide no-cost opportunities for students to remain at school until their regular dismissal time.”

FCPS will provide NO COST opportunities for students to remain at school.

NO COST.

REMAIN AT SCHOOL.

So, if this is a burden, your kid can stay at school. Some parents may want/be able to have their kids at the earlier dismissal.

38 pages of people griping about the burden of early dismissal, when early dismissal is optional.

This is one year only to do the training that the state pushed through without thinking of the impacts of rushed legislation. So many of you are griping day after day on here that your kids can’t read, and now all of the teachers will be trained in the science of reading and you’re STILL complaining.

Insufferable.


I’m the last one to stand up for these complaining (often rude) parents on DCUM, but the FCPS website announcement does not say no cost, so I could see where questions might occur.

Where did you grab your text from?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think doing the training Monday-Wednesday of Thanksgiving week is a great solution. MKe those days k-12 teacher workdays/training days, no need to close early on Mondags.


Those 3 days still aren’t enough to complete the entire training, and they’ll run into issues with staff that already has travel plans for that Wednesday, since it’s currently a holiday.


Clearly, changing the expected instructional schedule is not an issue with FCPS so this should be no biggie. If its ok to close early unexpectedly a whole bunch of days, switching a day off to a work day months from now shouldn't be an issue.


The difference is the current plan doesn’t change the employee calendar. Employees already planned on working those days. That’s not the case for the day before Thanksgiving.


Well, parents already planned on working all of these Monday afternoons. So I guess there will need to be some shared pain. Since we’re in this “together” right?


FCPS is the employer. They need to make time to provide their employees with this training. They made a decision. FCPS is not your employer.



Correct— FCPS is a service provider. And they are changing the terms of those services on the backs of one group (parents) to the benefit of another group (teachers/staff) while shortchanging a third group (students).

The only way in which they are held responsible for this decision is if voters hold their school board representatives accountable in November. Which should be easy since it will be after two disastrous early-releases are already behind us. I am writing my board members to say I will be eagerly seeking his proposals to keep children in the classroom.


If you think it’s so unfair that teachers will be provided an opportunity to complete mandated training during work hours, then take it to the board. Complain loudly and proudly. Tell them you expect teachers to sacrifice more for you. I’m sure the argument will be well received.
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