SCOTUS outlaws race as college admissions factor
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Anonymous
The Chinese schools are longer and they are given more work than American schools. The Asian students work more and socialize less. The math club had a photo in the middle school yearbook. A lot more students than I would have thought. Two White kids, two Black kids, the remainder Indian or Asian. About 40 kids total. I wonder how many of these kids have a choice. |
Anonymous
Nope. Nice try at deflection by trying to bring in whites. It has to do with Asians being held to higher standard than everyone else and having racial stereotypes used to character assassinate them for rejection. |
Anonymous
| The Supreme Court did not outlaw race as a factor. Thomas's concurring opinion said Grutter is dead, but the majority ruling did not explicitly overrule it. |
Anonymous
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Hats off to the Supreme Court. The whole race game of college admissions is nauseating.
Looking forward to focus on grades and test scores. Ps - let’s also ban legacies. |
Anonymous
| We are slowly coming to a point where everyone needs to carry their own weight. Thx SCOTUS. |
Anonymous
It’s problematic when there is an essay where you can squeeze almost any info you want |
Anonymous
Maybe we could focus on test scores if everybody didn't get an A in every class. My DS has had his first year at a 'good' American high school. The standards are shockingly low. No essays at all in his junior year. Work that's not turned in gets a 50% grade. Sloppily written multiple choice questions. Kids basically just have to turn up to get an A. Why aren't we challenging our students? - immigrant mom, not from an Asian country |
Anonymous
Some Asians may be feeling like winners with this case without realizing a right wing white zealot lawyer (supported by right wing machinations behind the scene) used them as pawns to dismantle some equity opportunities for students of colors. Unfortunately some of these Ivy League educated Asians at work place are told year after year to fix their communication skills to get promoted! |
Anonymous
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I work for a company that hires undergrads from top universities. I can tell you, anonymously, the Asian kids are head and shoulders above everyone. It’s not even close.
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Anonymous
It’s true though. They have been programmed by their parents to be docile and obey orders, not to counter authority and not to make their own decisions. This is cultural norm. |
Anonymous
No, seriously. Do you know the history of this case and who is behind it? I didn't until I did a bit of research on the backstory. The answer is: Edward Blum and the organization he created--Students for Fair Admissions (based in Arlington, VA BTW). I know this is a long read and most won't bother to read it, but it's worth knowing how this case started. (The comments in square brackets are mine). "Blum is not a lawyer, but he has a long history of crafting legal attacks on civil rights. After losing a congressional election in the early 1990s, Blum, who is white, challenged the Texas redistricting process as discriminating in favor of African American and Latinx voters. While his success in that case, Bush v. Vera, was limited to particular districts, among his other challenges to the voting rights, Blum was behind Shelby v. Holder. That case gutted important protections in the Voting Rights Act with drastic effects for voters of color. His attacks on laws and policies designed to promote the equality of people of color are not limited to voting rights. Blum also crafted the unsuccessful challenge to race-conscious college admissions programs in Fisher v. University of Texas. [FYI Fisher v. UT was brought by a white female--Abigail Fisher--who sued UT when she was not admitted, "claiming that the University of Texas' use of race as a consideration in admission decisions was in violation of the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment." [Even among those students, Fisher did not particularly stand out. Court records show her grade point average (3.59) and SAT scores (1180 out of 1600) were good but not great for the highly selective flagship university. The school's rejection rate that year for the remaining 841 openings was higher than the turn-down rate for students trying to get into Harvard. As a result, university officials claim in court filings that even if Fisher received points for her race and every other personal achievement factor, the letter she received in the mail still would have said no. It's true that the university, for whatever reason, offered provisional admission to some students with lower test scores and grades than Fisher. Five of those students were black or Latino. Forty-two were white. Neither Fisher nor Blum mentioned those 42 applicants in interviews. Nor did they acknowledge the 168 black and Latino students with grades as good as or better than Fisher's who were also denied entry into the university that year. Also left unsaid is the fact that Fisher turned down a standard UT offer under which she could have gone to the university her sophomore year if she earned a 3.2 GPA at another Texas university school in her freshman year."] (https://www.propublica.org/article/a-colorblind-constitution-what-abigail-fishers-affirmative-action-case-is-r#:~:text=Even%20among%20those%20students%2C%20Fisher,the%20highly%20selective%20flagship%20university.) Failing in Fisher, Blum baldly strategized that he “needed Asian plaintiffs.” He formed Students for Fair Admissions as a vehicle to file litigation. The organization’s leadership consists solely of Mr. Blum, Abigail Fisher, and Richard Fisher, her father. [Since this was written, it looks like Blum has added three Asian board members]. Through Students for Fair Admissions, Blum recruited “members” and filed his challenge to college admissions against Harvard and the University of North Carolina with a twist. This time, Blum claims that the consideration of race discriminates against Asian Americans." So when Bum failed to achieve his goal by helping a white student bring a case, he moved on to Asian Americans. This was never about concern for discrimination against Asian Americans--they were just a vehicle to a larger end. |
Anonymous
Ha. Cheating is rampant in Asian culture. There have been so many Asians cheating scandals at all major universities. It’s not considered shameful, any means is justified to get ahead. |
Anonymous
| "No person in the United States shall, on the ground of race, color, or national origin, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance." |
Anonymous
How many of these Asian kids joined the math team because they were passionate about math and how many because their parents made them? 0 and 36. |