Kristin Mink

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Anonymous wrote:She's clearly out of her depth. This is what happens when you elect an activist with no actual policy experience.

She lives in a binary world. You are either with her or against her. There is no middle ground.

Agree or disagree with her, she is very passionate about her activism. She’s a great activist! She cares deeply about trans LGBTQ issues.

What she is not, is a good council woman. She should never have gone into it, and she should not run again. She should keep her focus on her passion projects, where she will be very effective for them.

I browse her Twitter and you can tell what she cares about. I don’t see the apology on there, unless I missed it in one of her threads.

If you live in her district, and if she runs again, here's what you can do: vote for a different candidate. If you don't live in her district? *shrug*

Meanwhile the substance of what she said is correct. Even if the so-called-"Christian" nationalists/white supremacists happen to be on the same side as the Muslim parents at the protest on this specific issue, they are antithetical to everyone who is non-white and/or has any religious beliefs that aren't their particular brand. If anybody at the protest had asked me, I would have said: Don't ally with people who believe you have no right to exist, because you will lose even if you win.

For god's sake, Muslims are not aligning with white supremacists. Muslims are opposing the removal of an opt-out option in public school instruction. White supremacists are protesting LGBTQA existence. Only Kristin sees these as the same thing.

It was a joint protest event.

Moms for Liberty may be anti-LGBTQ+, but they are not white supremacists.

They are a national organization that has explicitly and repeatedly opposed lesson plans around civil rights. If they are not white supremacist, they are absolutely aligned with white supremacists in their desire to downplay a history of racial discrimination in this country.

I think CAIR is going to regret partnering with them, to be honest, because they have some fringe beliefs that absolutely will result in backlash against Muslim American communities.

Well if progressives in Moco think Muslims have white supremacist views then I'm not sure where else they are going to find allies. And this whole Muslim as white supremacist thing....wow. I'm kind of guessing that the extreme left just uses the "white supremacist" label on minority groups to other them without looking biased?

Once again, very slowly, I will repeat.

No one is saying that Muslims have white supremacist views. People are saying that some Muslim (including a prominent Muslim American lobbying group) have chosen to align themselves with white supremacists on this issue. Those people believe that this is a mistake, both because even a temporary and situational alignment with white supremacists is bad, and because white supremacists have a nasty habit of turning on you when the temporary alignment ends.

People are allowed to disagree with progressive politics and idea. That doesn’t make them white supremacists. When progressives get pushback, they automatically try to divert to the defensive posture of immediately labeling their opposition as either racists or white supremacists in order to shutdown difficult conversation. They think it is some trump ace card they can use to shut up all dissenting opinion. It’s the same as labeling someone communist during McCarthyism.

If don’t agree with my views you must be a bigot!

Disagreeing with progressive politics or ideas doesn't make you a white supremacist. Having white supremacist politics or ideas makes you a white supremacist. Are white supremacists white supremacists? Yes.

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Anonymous wrote:She's clearly out of her depth. This is what happens when you elect an activist with no actual policy experience.

She lives in a binary world. You are either with her or against her. There is no middle ground.

Agree or disagree with her, she is very passionate about her activism. She’s a great activist! She cares deeply about trans LGBTQ issues.

What she is not, is a good council woman. She should never have gone into it, and she should not run again. She should keep her focus on her passion projects, where she will be very effective for them.

I browse her Twitter and you can tell what she cares about. I don’t see the apology on there, unless I missed it in one of her threads.

If you live in her district, and if she runs again, here's what you can do: vote for a different candidate. If you don't live in her district? *shrug*

Meanwhile the substance of what she said is correct. Even if the so-called-"Christian" nationalists/white supremacists happen to be on the same side as the Muslim parents at the protest on this specific issue, they are antithetical to everyone who is non-white and/or has any religious beliefs that aren't their particular brand. If anybody at the protest had asked me, I would have said: Don't ally with people who believe you have no right to exist, because you will lose even if you win.

For god's sake, Muslims are not aligning with white supremacists. Muslims are opposing the removal of an opt-out option in public school instruction. White supremacists are protesting LGBTQA existence. Only Kristin sees these as the same thing.

It was a joint protest event.

Moms for Liberty may be anti-LGBTQ+, but they are not white supremacists.

They are a national organization that has explicitly and repeatedly opposed lesson plans around civil rights. If they are not white supremacist, they are absolutely aligned with white supremacists in their desire to downplay a history of racial discrimination in this country.

I think CAIR is going to regret partnering with them, to be honest, because they have some fringe beliefs that absolutely will result in backlash against Muslim American communities.

Well if progressives in Moco think Muslims have white supremacist views then I'm not sure where else they are going to find allies. And this whole Muslim as white supremacist thing....wow. I'm kind of guessing that the extreme left just uses the "white supremacist" label on minority groups to other them without looking biased?

Once again, very slowly, I will repeat.

No one is saying that Muslims have white supremacist views. People are saying that some Muslim (including a prominent Muslim American lobbying group) have chosen to align themselves with white supremacists on this issue. Those people believe that this is a mistake, both because even a temporary and situational alignment with white supremacists is bad, and because white supremacists have a nasty habit of turning on you when the temporary alignment ends.

Do you realize how insane it is to compare two groups who have nothing to do with each other? It's an intentional attempt to change the discussion from religious people simply asking for an opt-out, to know throw them in the same bucket with a hate group, because they happen to agree on one issue.

It would be like if Donald Trump said he liked the Washington Nationals, and I said "yeah me too".

OH SO YOU ARE ON THE SAME SIDE AS DONALD TRUMP ON THIS ONE, HUH?!

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Anonymous wrote:She's clearly out of her depth. This is what happens when you elect an activist with no actual policy experience.

She lives in a binary world. You are either with her or against her. There is no middle ground.

Agree or disagree with her, she is very passionate about her activism. She’s a great activist! She cares deeply about trans LGBTQ issues.

What she is not, is a good council woman. She should never have gone into it, and she should not run again. She should keep her focus on her passion projects, where she will be very effective for them.

I browse her Twitter and you can tell what she cares about. I don’t see the apology on there, unless I missed it in one of her threads.

If you live in her district, and if she runs again, here's what you can do: vote for a different candidate. If you don't live in her district? *shrug*

Meanwhile the substance of what she said is correct. Even if the so-called-"Christian" nationalists/white supremacists happen to be on the same side as the Muslim parents at the protest on this specific issue, they are antithetical to everyone who is non-white and/or has any religious beliefs that aren't their particular brand. If anybody at the protest had asked me, I would have said: Don't ally with people who believe you have no right to exist, because you will lose even if you win.

For god's sake, Muslims are not aligning with white supremacists. Muslims are opposing the removal of an opt-out option in public school instruction. White supremacists are protesting LGBTQA existence. Only Kristin sees these as the same thing.

It was a joint protest event.

Moms for Liberty may be anti-LGBTQ+, but they are not white supremacists.

They are a national organization that has explicitly and repeatedly opposed lesson plans around civil rights. If they are not white supremacist, they are absolutely aligned with white supremacists in their desire to downplay a history of racial discrimination in this country.

I think CAIR is going to regret partnering with them, to be honest, because they have some fringe beliefs that absolutely will result in backlash against Muslim American communities.

Well if progressives in Moco think Muslims have white supremacist views then I'm not sure where else they are going to find allies. And this whole Muslim as white supremacist thing....wow. I'm kind of guessing that the extreme left just uses the "white supremacist" label on minority groups to other them without looking biased?

Once again, very slowly, I will repeat.

No one is saying that Muslims have white supremacist views. People are saying that some Muslim (including a prominent Muslim American lobbying group) have chosen to align themselves with white supremacists on this issue. Those people believe that this is a mistake, both because even a temporary and situational alignment with white supremacists is bad, and because white supremacists have a nasty habit of turning on you when the temporary alignment ends.

Do you realize how insane it is to compare two groups who have nothing to do with each other? It's an intentional attempt to change the discussion from religious people simply asking for an opt-out, to know throw them in the same bucket with a hate group, because they happen to agree on one issue.

It would be like if Donald Trump said he liked the Washington Nationals, and I said "yeah me too".

OH SO YOU ARE ON THE SAME SIDE AS DONALD TRUMP ON THIS ONE, HUH?!

They were literally protesting the same thing at the same protest event. That's not "nothing to do with each other." It was a mistake for MoCo CAIR to have the joint protest with "Moms for Liberty", in my opinion. They should have had their own protest event.

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Anonymous wrote:She's clearly out of her depth. This is what happens when you elect an activist with no actual policy experience.

She lives in a binary world. You are either with her or against her. There is no middle ground.

Agree or disagree with her, she is very passionate about her activism. She’s a great activist! She cares deeply about trans LGBTQ issues.

What she is not, is a good council woman. She should never have gone into it, and she should not run again. She should keep her focus on her passion projects, where she will be very effective for them.

I browse her Twitter and you can tell what she cares about. I don’t see the apology on there, unless I missed it in one of her threads.

If you live in her district, and if she runs again, here's what you can do: vote for a different candidate. If you don't live in her district? *shrug*

Meanwhile the substance of what she said is correct. Even if the so-called-"Christian" nationalists/white supremacists happen to be on the same side as the Muslim parents at the protest on this specific issue, they are antithetical to everyone who is non-white and/or has any religious beliefs that aren't their particular brand. If anybody at the protest had asked me, I would have said: Don't ally with people who believe you have no right to exist, because you will lose even if you win.

For god's sake, Muslims are not aligning with white supremacists. Muslims are opposing the removal of an opt-out option in public school instruction. White supremacists are protesting LGBTQA existence. Only Kristin sees these as the same thing.

It was a joint protest event.

Moms for Liberty may be anti-LGBTQ+, but they are not white supremacists.

They are a national organization that has explicitly and repeatedly opposed lesson plans around civil rights. If they are not white supremacist, they are absolutely aligned with white supremacists in their desire to downplay a history of racial discrimination in this country.

I think CAIR is going to regret partnering with them, to be honest, because they have some fringe beliefs that absolutely will result in backlash against Muslim American communities.

Well if progressives in Moco think Muslims have white supremacist views then I'm not sure where else they are going to find allies. And this whole Muslim as white supremacist thing....wow. I'm kind of guessing that the extreme left just uses the "white supremacist" label on minority groups to other them without looking biased?

Once again, very slowly, I will repeat.

No one is saying that Muslims have white supremacist views. People are saying that some Muslim (including a prominent Muslim American lobbying group) have chosen to align themselves with white supremacists on this issue. Those people believe that this is a mistake, both because even a temporary and situational alignment with white supremacists is bad, and because white supremacists have a nasty habit of turning on you when the temporary alignment ends.

Do you realize how insane it is to compare two groups who have nothing to do with each other? It's an intentional attempt to change the discussion from religious people simply asking for an opt-out, to know throw them in the same bucket with a hate group, because they happen to agree on one issue.

It would be like if Donald Trump said he liked the Washington Nationals, and I said "yeah me too".

OH SO YOU ARE ON THE SAME SIDE AS DONALD TRUMP ON THIS ONE, HUH?!

They were literally protesting the same thing at the same protest event. That's not "nothing to do with each other." It was a mistake for MoCo CAIR to have the joint protest with "Moms for Liberty", in my opinion. They should have had their own protest event.

This. If you co-sponsor and co-organize a political event with a white supremacist group, you should expect to be called out for it.

CAIR is in bed with bad people here, and the fact that they are a Muslim-American group should not stop anyone from pointing that out.

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Anonymous wrote:She's clearly out of her depth. This is what happens when you elect an activist with no actual policy experience.

She lives in a binary world. You are either with her or against her. There is no middle ground.

Agree or disagree with her, she is very passionate about her activism. She’s a great activist! She cares deeply about trans LGBTQ issues.

What she is not, is a good council woman. She should never have gone into it, and she should not run again. She should keep her focus on her passion projects, where she will be very effective for them.

I browse her Twitter and you can tell what she cares about. I don’t see the apology on there, unless I missed it in one of her threads.

If you live in her district, and if she runs again, here's what you can do: vote for a different candidate. If you don't live in her district? *shrug*

Meanwhile the substance of what she said is correct. Even if the so-called-"Christian" nationalists/white supremacists happen to be on the same side as the Muslim parents at the protest on this specific issue, they are antithetical to everyone who is non-white and/or has any religious beliefs that aren't their particular brand. If anybody at the protest had asked me, I would have said: Don't ally with people who believe you have no right to exist, because you will lose even if you win.

For god's sake, Muslims are not aligning with white supremacists. Muslims are opposing the removal of an opt-out option in public school instruction. White supremacists are protesting LGBTQA existence. Only Kristin sees these as the same thing.

It was a joint protest event.

Moms for Liberty may be anti-LGBTQ+, but they are not white supremacists.

They are a national organization that has explicitly and repeatedly opposed lesson plans around civil rights. If they are not white supremacist, they are absolutely aligned with white supremacists in their desire to downplay a history of racial discrimination in this country.

I think CAIR is going to regret partnering with them, to be honest, because they have some fringe beliefs that absolutely will result in backlash against Muslim American communities.

Well if progressives in Moco think Muslims have white supremacist views then I'm not sure where else they are going to find allies. And this whole Muslim as white supremacist thing....wow. I'm kind of guessing that the extreme left just uses the "white supremacist" label on minority groups to other them without looking biased?

Once again, very slowly, I will repeat.

No one is saying that Muslims have white supremacist views. People are saying that some Muslim (including a prominent Muslim American lobbying group) have chosen to align themselves with white supremacists on this issue. Those people believe that this is a mistake, both because even a temporary and situational alignment with white supremacists is bad, and because white supremacists have a nasty habit of turning on you when the temporary alignment ends.

Do you realize how insane it is to compare two groups who have nothing to do with each other? It's an intentional attempt to change the discussion from religious people simply asking for an opt-out, to know throw them in the same bucket with a hate group, because they happen to agree on one issue.

It would be like if Donald Trump said he liked the Washington Nationals, and I said "yeah me too".

OH SO YOU ARE ON THE SAME SIDE AS DONALD TRUMP ON THIS ONE, HUH?!

This x 1000

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Anonymous wrote:She's clearly out of her depth. This is what happens when you elect an activist with no actual policy experience.

She lives in a binary world. You are either with her or against her. There is no middle ground.

Agree or disagree with her, she is very passionate about her activism. She’s a great activist! She cares deeply about trans LGBTQ issues.

What she is not, is a good council woman. She should never have gone into it, and she should not run again. She should keep her focus on her passion projects, where she will be very effective for them.

I browse her Twitter and you can tell what she cares about. I don’t see the apology on there, unless I missed it in one of her threads.

If you live in her district, and if she runs again, here's what you can do: vote for a different candidate. If you don't live in her district? *shrug*

Meanwhile the substance of what she said is correct. Even if the so-called-"Christian" nationalists/white supremacists happen to be on the same side as the Muslim parents at the protest on this specific issue, they are antithetical to everyone who is non-white and/or has any religious beliefs that aren't their particular brand. If anybody at the protest had asked me, I would have said: Don't ally with people who believe you have no right to exist, because you will lose even if you win.

For god's sake, Muslims are not aligning with white supremacists. Muslims are opposing the removal of an opt-out option in public school instruction. White supremacists are protesting LGBTQA existence. Only Kristin sees these as the same thing.

It was a joint protest event.

Moms for Liberty may be anti-LGBTQ+, but they are not white supremacists.

They are a national organization that has explicitly and repeatedly opposed lesson plans around civil rights. If they are not white supremacist, they are absolutely aligned with white supremacists in their desire to downplay a history of racial discrimination in this country.

I think CAIR is going to regret partnering with them, to be honest, because they have some fringe beliefs that absolutely will result in backlash against Muslim American communities.

Well if progressives in Moco think Muslims have white supremacist views then I'm not sure where else they are going to find allies. And this whole Muslim as white supremacist thing....wow. I'm kind of guessing that the extreme left just uses the "white supremacist" label on minority groups to other them without looking biased?

Once again, very slowly, I will repeat.

No one is saying that Muslims have white supremacist views. People are saying that some Muslim (including a prominent Muslim American lobbying group) have chosen to align themselves with white supremacists on this issue. Those people believe that this is a mistake, both because even a temporary and situational alignment with white supremacists is bad, and because white supremacists have a nasty habit of turning on you when the temporary alignment ends.

Do you realize how insane it is to compare two groups who have nothing to do with each other? It's an intentional attempt to change the discussion from religious people simply asking for an opt-out, to know throw them in the same bucket with a hate group, because they happen to agree on one issue.

It would be like if Donald Trump said he liked the Washington Nationals, and I said "yeah me too".

OH SO YOU ARE ON THE SAME SIDE AS DONALD TRUMP ON THIS ONE, HUH?!

It would be like if you and Donald Trump went to a Nats game together.

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Anonymous wrote:She's clearly out of her depth. This is what happens when you elect an activist with no actual policy experience.

She lives in a binary world. You are either with her or against her. There is no middle ground.

Agree or disagree with her, she is very passionate about her activism. She’s a great activist! She cares deeply about trans LGBTQ issues.

What she is not, is a good council woman. She should never have gone into it, and she should not run again. She should keep her focus on her passion projects, where she will be very effective for them.

I browse her Twitter and you can tell what she cares about. I don’t see the apology on there, unless I missed it in one of her threads.

If you live in her district, and if she runs again, here's what you can do: vote for a different candidate. If you don't live in her district? *shrug*

Meanwhile the substance of what she said is correct. Even if the so-called-"Christian" nationalists/white supremacists happen to be on the same side as the Muslim parents at the protest on this specific issue, they are antithetical to everyone who is non-white and/or has any religious beliefs that aren't their particular brand. If anybody at the protest had asked me, I would have said: Don't ally with people who believe you have no right to exist, because you will lose even if you win.

For god's sake, Muslims are not aligning with white supremacists. Muslims are opposing the removal of an opt-out option in public school instruction. White supremacists are protesting LGBTQA existence. Only Kristin sees these as the same thing.

It was a joint protest event.

Moms for Liberty may be anti-LGBTQ+, but they are not white supremacists.

They are a national organization that has explicitly and repeatedly opposed lesson plans around civil rights. If they are not white supremacist, they are absolutely aligned with white supremacists in their desire to downplay a history of racial discrimination in this country.

I think CAIR is going to regret partnering with them, to be honest, because they have some fringe beliefs that absolutely will result in backlash against Muslim American communities.

Well if progressives in Moco think Muslims have white supremacist views then I'm not sure where else they are going to find allies. And this whole Muslim as white supremacist thing....wow. I'm kind of guessing that the extreme left just uses the "white supremacist" label on minority groups to other them without looking biased?

Once again, very slowly, I will repeat.

No one is saying that Muslims have white supremacist views. People are saying that some Muslim (including a prominent Muslim American lobbying group) have chosen to align themselves with white supremacists on this issue. Those people believe that this is a mistake, both because even a temporary and situational alignment with white supremacists is bad, and because white supremacists have a nasty habit of turning on you when the temporary alignment ends.

Do you realize how insane it is to compare two groups who have nothing to do with each other? It's an intentional attempt to change the discussion from religious people simply asking for an opt-out, to know throw them in the same bucket with a hate group, because they happen to agree on one issue.

It would be like if Donald Trump said he liked the Washington Nationals, and I said "yeah me too".

OH SO YOU ARE ON THE SAME SIDE AS DONALD TRUMP ON THIS ONE, HUH?!

It would be like if you and Donald Trump went to a Nats game together.

Only if you think all the Muslims that oppose books featuring LGBTQ+ books are the same person.

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Anonymous wrote:She's clearly out of her depth. This is what happens when you elect an activist with no actual policy experience.

She lives in a binary world. You are either with her or against her. There is no middle ground.

Agree or disagree with her, she is very passionate about her activism. She’s a great activist! She cares deeply about trans LGBTQ issues.

What she is not, is a good council woman. She should never have gone into it, and she should not run again. She should keep her focus on her passion projects, where she will be very effective for them.

I browse her Twitter and you can tell what she cares about. I don’t see the apology on there, unless I missed it in one of her threads.

If you live in her district, and if she runs again, here's what you can do: vote for a different candidate. If you don't live in her district? *shrug*

Meanwhile the substance of what she said is correct. Even if the so-called-"Christian" nationalists/white supremacists happen to be on the same side as the Muslim parents at the protest on this specific issue, they are antithetical to everyone who is non-white and/or has any religious beliefs that aren't their particular brand. If anybody at the protest had asked me, I would have said: Don't ally with people who believe you have no right to exist, because you will lose even if you win.

For god's sake, Muslims are not aligning with white supremacists. Muslims are opposing the removal of an opt-out option in public school instruction. White supremacists are protesting LGBTQA existence. Only Kristin sees these as the same thing.

It was a joint protest event.

Moms for Liberty may be anti-LGBTQ+, but they are not white supremacists.

They are a national organization that has explicitly and repeatedly opposed lesson plans around civil rights. If they are not white supremacist, they are absolutely aligned with white supremacists in their desire to downplay a history of racial discrimination in this country.

I think CAIR is going to regret partnering with them, to be honest, because they have some fringe beliefs that absolutely will result in backlash against Muslim American communities.

Well if progressives in Moco think Muslims have white supremacist views then I'm not sure where else they are going to find allies. And this whole Muslim as white supremacist thing....wow. I'm kind of guessing that the extreme left just uses the "white supremacist" label on minority groups to other them without looking biased?

Once again, very slowly, I will repeat.

No one is saying that Muslims have white supremacist views. People are saying that some Muslim (including a prominent Muslim American lobbying group) have chosen to align themselves with white supremacists on this issue. Those people believe that this is a mistake, both because even a temporary and situational alignment with white supremacists is bad, and because white supremacists have a nasty habit of turning on you when the temporary alignment ends.

Do you realize how insane it is to compare two groups who have nothing to do with each other? It's an intentional attempt to change the discussion from religious people simply asking for an opt-out, to know throw them in the same bucket with a hate group, because they happen to agree on one issue.

It would be like if Donald Trump said he liked the Washington Nationals, and I said "yeah me too".

OH SO YOU ARE ON THE SAME SIDE AS DONALD TRUMP ON THIS ONE, HUH?!

They were literally protesting the same thing at the same protest event. That's not "nothing to do with each other." It was a mistake for MoCo CAIR to have the joint protest with "Moms for Liberty", in my opinion. They should have had their own protest event.

This. If you co-sponsor and co-organize a political event with a white supremacist group, you should expect to be called out for it.

CAIR is in bed with bad people here, and the fact that they are a Muslim-American group should not stop anyone from pointing that out.

Who are you saying is the white supremacist group?

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Anonymous wrote:She's clearly out of her depth. This is what happens when you elect an activist with no actual policy experience.

She lives in a binary world. You are either with her or against her. There is no middle ground.

Agree or disagree with her, she is very passionate about her activism. She’s a great activist! She cares deeply about trans LGBTQ issues.

What she is not, is a good council woman. She should never have gone into it, and she should not run again. She should keep her focus on her passion projects, where she will be very effective for them.

I browse her Twitter and you can tell what she cares about. I don’t see the apology on there, unless I missed it in one of her threads.

If you live in her district, and if she runs again, here's what you can do: vote for a different candidate. If you don't live in her district? *shrug*

Meanwhile the substance of what she said is correct. Even if the so-called-"Christian" nationalists/white supremacists happen to be on the same side as the Muslim parents at the protest on this specific issue, they are antithetical to everyone who is non-white and/or has any religious beliefs that aren't their particular brand. If anybody at the protest had asked me, I would have said: Don't ally with people who believe you have no right to exist, because you will lose even if you win.

For god's sake, Muslims are not aligning with white supremacists. Muslims are opposing the removal of an opt-out option in public school instruction. White supremacists are protesting LGBTQA existence. Only Kristin sees these as the same thing.

It was a joint protest event.

Moms for Liberty may be anti-LGBTQ+, but they are not white supremacists.

They are a national organization that has explicitly and repeatedly opposed lesson plans around civil rights. If they are not white supremacist, they are absolutely aligned with white supremacists in their desire to downplay a history of racial discrimination in this country.

I think CAIR is going to regret partnering with them, to be honest, because they have some fringe beliefs that absolutely will result in backlash against Muslim American communities.

Well if progressives in Moco think Muslims have white supremacist views then I'm not sure where else they are going to find allies. And this whole Muslim as white supremacist thing....wow. I'm kind of guessing that the extreme left just uses the "white supremacist" label on minority groups to other them without looking biased?

Once again, very slowly, I will repeat.

No one is saying that Muslims have white supremacist views. People are saying that some Muslim (including a prominent Muslim American lobbying group) have chosen to align themselves with white supremacists on this issue. Those people believe that this is a mistake, both because even a temporary and situational alignment with white supremacists is bad, and because white supremacists have a nasty habit of turning on you when the temporary alignment ends.

Do you realize how insane it is to compare two groups who have nothing to do with each other? It's an intentional attempt to change the discussion from religious people simply asking for an opt-out, to know throw them in the same bucket with a hate group, because they happen to agree on one issue.

It would be like if Donald Trump said he liked the Washington Nationals, and I said "yeah me too".

OH SO YOU ARE ON THE SAME SIDE AS DONALD TRUMP ON THIS ONE, HUH?!

It would be like if you and Donald Trump went to a Nats game together.

Only if you think all the Muslims that oppose books featuring LGBTQ+ books are the same person.

No, only if I think that a group of Muslim-American parents held a joint protest with the so-called Moms for Liberty group. Which is what happened. To explain the metaphor:

you = the group of Muslim-American parents at the joint protest
Donald Trump = the so-called Moms for Liberty group at the joint protest
the Nats game = the joint protest

As a reminder: there are LGBTQ people who are Muslim, and there are Muslims who are LGBTQ. These are overlapping groups, not separate groups.

[Anonymous]

Also I'm not sure that "Mom's for Liberty" is in fact a white supremacist group.

You might disagree with their book banning and other issues- but thats a big stretch.

Which makes this entire thing an even bigger stretch when the very premise tying these two groups together, is a stretch itself.

[Anonymous]

Sometimes these conversations remind me of dealing with my ex-husband. Whenever we argued, he felt that he was a rational person who had reached his conclusions logically, so it obviously followed that if I disagreed with him, I was being irrational and relying on emotion rather than logic. The idea that two people could have different perspectives and logically reach two equally valid conclusions didn’t occur to him, much less that through either a flawed premise and/or flaw in his logic, he could actually be wrong.

Too often it seems that because progressives feel that because their approach formed from their good intentions to help people, anyone who disagrees does so from hate. There are certainly individuals and groups that are motivated by hate. However, there are also many well-intentioned people, who also want to help people, but may disagree with progressives about how to go about it.

We should also retain a little humility. As humans, we are inherently flawed and will sometimes be wrong. Moreover, issues are usually very complex, and there isn’t always a clear cut “right” and “wrong” answer. Whenever we disagree, let’s consider the possibility that we may not be as right as we think we are and the others may not be as wrong. Statistically speaking, it’s got to happen sometime.

I’m not saying we should ever condone hate, but I think we should recognize there’s a big difference between racial bigotry and parents wanting some control over exposing their young children to content that they feel opposes their beliefs. This isn’t new. We’ve long had cases where a parent might not want their child to participate in celebrations, stand for the Pledge of Allegiance, attend sex ed classes, or dissect frogs. Some of those may have generated controversy, but I can’t remember anyone blaming the parents for racial bigotry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also I'm not sure that "Mom's for Liberty" is in fact a white supremacist group.

You might disagree with their book banning and other issues- but thats a big stretch.

Which makes this entire thing an even bigger stretch when the very premise tying these two groups together, is a stretch itself.

White supremacists think they're a white supremacist group. That's good enough for me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sometimes these conversations remind me of dealing with my ex-husband. Whenever we argued, he felt that he was a rational person who had reached his conclusions logically, so it obviously followed that if I disagreed with him, I was being irrational and relying on emotion rather than logic. The idea that two people could have different perspectives and logically reach two equally valid conclusions didn’t occur to him, much less that through either a flawed premise and/or flaw in his logic, he could actually be wrong.

Too often it seems that because progressives feel that because their approach formed from their good intentions to help people, anyone who disagrees does so from hate. There are certainly individuals and groups that are motivated by hate. However, there are also many well-intentioned people, who also want to help people, but may disagree with progressives about how to go about it.

We should also retain a little humility. As humans, we are inherently flawed and will sometimes be wrong. Moreover, issues are usually very complex, and there isn’t always a clear cut “right” and “wrong” answer. Whenever we disagree, let’s consider the possibility that we may not be as right as we think we are and the others may not be as wrong. Statistically speaking, it’s got to happen sometime.

I’m not saying we should ever condone hate, but I think we should recognize there’s a big difference between racial bigotry and parents wanting some control over exposing their young children to content that they feel opposes their beliefs. This isn’t new. We’ve long had cases where a parent might not want their child to participate in celebrations, stand for the Pledge of Allegiance, attend sex ed classes, or dissect frogs. Some of those may have generated controversy, but I can’t remember anyone blaming the parents for racial bigotry.

Well said. Thank you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also I'm not sure that "Mom's for Liberty" is in fact a white supremacist group.

You might disagree with their book banning and other issues- but thats a big stretch.

Which makes this entire thing an even bigger stretch when the very premise tying these two groups together, is a stretch itself.

White supremacists think they're a white supremacist group. That's good enough for me.

Can you expand? Who has said this? I’ll admit I haven’t heard about Moms for Liberty until recently. While I don’t support all that they stand for, I don’t clearly see the white supremacist connection.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also I'm not sure that "Mom's for Liberty" is in fact a white supremacist group.

You might disagree with their book banning and other issues- but thats a big stretch.

Which makes this entire thing an even bigger stretch when the very premise tying these two groups together, is a stretch itself.

White supremacists think they're a white supremacist group. That's good enough for me.

Can you expand? Who has said this? I’ll admit I haven’t heard about Moms for Liberty until recently. While I don’t support all that they stand for, I don’t clearly see the white supremacist connection.

I’m 13:11 and I’m also trying to figure this out too.