Kristin Mink

[Anonymous]

I hate splitting hairs on this topic, but I think the distinction is an important one. Moms for Liberty is absolutely a hate group that upholds white supremacy. However, it's not a "White supremacist" group in the way most people understand that term - to refer to groups that explicitly and often violently uphold the notion that White people are superior to other groups. I think Mink was really stretching on this and unfortunately and unintentionally perpetuates a discourse about Muslims as violent terrorists that is really not helpful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hate splitting hairs on this topic, but I think the distinction is an important one. Moms for Liberty is absolutely a hate group that upholds white supremacy. However, it's not a "White supremacist" group in the way most people understand that term - to refer to groups that explicitly and often violently uphold the notion that White people are superior to other groups. I think Mink was really stretching on this and unfortunately and unintentionally perpetuates a discourse about Muslims as violent terrorists that is really not helpful.

Well said.

And the people on twitter going to the mattresses for her "nothing she said was wrong" are showing their true colors.

"This is a person I like, therefore I am going to ignore how problematic her comments were"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hate splitting hairs on this topic, but I think the distinction is an important one. Moms for Liberty is absolutely a hate group that upholds white supremacy. However, it's not a "White supremacist" group in the way most people understand that term - to refer to groups that explicitly and often violently uphold the notion that White people are superior to other groups. I think Mink was really stretching on this and unfortunately and unintentionally perpetuates a discourse about Muslims as violent terrorists that is really not helpful.

Okay, then we can say "CAIR is making a mistake by aligning themselves with a hate group that upholds white supremacy."

But I also think you are splitting hairs too finely here. Just because a group is not themselves engaged in white supremacist violence, does not mean they are not white supremacist at the core.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate splitting hairs on this topic, but I think the distinction is an important one. Moms for Liberty is absolutely a hate group that upholds white supremacy. However, it's not a "White supremacist" group in the way most people understand that term - to refer to groups that explicitly and often violently uphold the notion that White people are superior to other groups. I think Mink was really stretching on this and unfortunately and unintentionally perpetuates a discourse about Muslims as violent terrorists that is really not helpful.

Well said.

And the people on twitter going to the mattresses for her "nothing she said was wrong" are showing their true colors.

"This is a person I like, therefore I am going to ignore how problematic her comments were"

I feel like this is 100% the way most people engage in discussion these days. Even very educated people. There seems to be absolutely no allowance for shades of gray or different perspectives.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate splitting hairs on this topic, but I think the distinction is an important one. Moms for Liberty is absolutely a hate group that upholds white supremacy. However, it's not a "White supremacist" group in the way most people understand that term - to refer to groups that explicitly and often violently uphold the notion that White people are superior to other groups. I think Mink was really stretching on this and unfortunately and unintentionally perpetuates a discourse about Muslims as violent terrorists that is really not helpful.

Okay, then we can say "CAIR is making a mistake by aligning themselves with a hate group that upholds white supremacy."

But I also think you are splitting hairs too finely here. Just because a group is not themselves engaged in white supremacist violence, does not mean they are not white supremacist at the core.

There is a difference between White supremacy and White supremacist (the term Mink used). You can deny it all you want. I think what she said was offensive and harmful to all Muslim Americans and a slap in the face to a community whose kids have been called "terrorists" since they were little.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate splitting hairs on this topic, but I think the distinction is an important one. Moms for Liberty is absolutely a hate group that upholds white supremacy. However, it's not a "White supremacist" group in the way most people understand that term - to refer to groups that explicitly and often violently uphold the notion that White people are superior to other groups. I think Mink was really stretching on this and unfortunately and unintentionally perpetuates a discourse about Muslims as violent terrorists that is really not helpful.

Okay, then we can say "CAIR is making a mistake by aligning themselves with a hate group that upholds white supremacy."

But I also think you are splitting hairs too finely here. Just because a group is not themselves engaged in white supremacist violence, does not mean they are not white supremacist at the core.

There is a difference between White supremacy and White supremacist (the term Mink used). You can deny it all you want. I think what she said was offensive and harmful to all Muslim Americans and a slap in the face to a community whose kids have been called "terrorists" since they were little.

Eh? White supremacists are people who support white supremacy. White supremacy is a belief supported by white supremacists. I honestly don't understand your point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate splitting hairs on this topic, but I think the distinction is an important one. Moms for Liberty is absolutely a hate group that upholds white supremacy. However, it's not a "White supremacist" group in the way most people understand that term - to refer to groups that explicitly and often violently uphold the notion that White people are superior to other groups. I think Mink was really stretching on this and unfortunately and unintentionally perpetuates a discourse about Muslims as violent terrorists that is really not helpful.

Okay, then we can say "CAIR is making a mistake by aligning themselves with a hate group that upholds white supremacy."

But I also think you are splitting hairs too finely here. Just because a group is not themselves engaged in white supremacist violence, does not mean they are not white supremacist at the core.

Actually it seems like a very important distinction between those and those who do not commit race based violence.

If you can't see why Mink's comment is very problematic- you really need to breathe and take a step back.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate splitting hairs on this topic, but I think the distinction is an important one. Moms for Liberty is absolutely a hate group that upholds white supremacy. However, it's not a "White supremacist" group in the way most people understand that term - to refer to groups that explicitly and often violently uphold the notion that White people are superior to other groups. I think Mink was really stretching on this and unfortunately and unintentionally perpetuates a discourse about Muslims as violent terrorists that is really not helpful.

Okay, then we can say "CAIR is making a mistake by aligning themselves with a hate group that upholds white supremacy."

But I also think you are splitting hairs too finely here. Just because a group is not themselves engaged in white supremacist violence, does not mean they are not white supremacist at the core.

There is a difference between White supremacy and White supremacist (the term Mink used). You can deny it all you want. I think what she said was offensive and harmful to all Muslim Americans and a slap in the face to a community whose kids have been called "terrorists" since they were little.

Eh? White supremacists are people who support white supremacy. White supremacy is a belief supported by white supremacists. I honestly don't understand your point.

You need to educate yourself. Look up a list of White supremacist organizations in the United States. Nobody refers to Moms for Liberty as a White supremacist organization, not even the SPLC. Words matter. Learn what they mean.

[Anonymous]

One thing is clear to me in all this.

It isnt the first time she has created self controversy for herself, and it wont be the last.

Even with the massive incumbency advantage, if her district got behind a single black candidate- she would lose.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate splitting hairs on this topic, but I think the distinction is an important one. Moms for Liberty is absolutely a hate group that upholds white supremacy. However, it's not a "White supremacist" group in the way most people understand that term - to refer to groups that explicitly and often violently uphold the notion that White people are superior to other groups. I think Mink was really stretching on this and unfortunately and unintentionally perpetuates a discourse about Muslims as violent terrorists that is really not helpful.

Okay, then we can say "CAIR is making a mistake by aligning themselves with a hate group that upholds white supremacy."

But I also think you are splitting hairs too finely here. Just because a group is not themselves engaged in white supremacist violence, does not mean they are not white supremacist at the core.

There is a difference between White supremacy and White supremacist (the term Mink used). You can deny it all you want. I think what she said was offensive and harmful to all Muslim Americans and a slap in the face to a community whose kids have been called "terrorists" since they were little.

Eh? White supremacists are people who support white supremacy. White supremacy is a belief supported by white supremacists. I honestly don't understand your point.

You need to educate yourself. Look up a list of White supremacist organizations in the United States. Nobody refers to Moms for Liberty as a White supremacist organization, not even the SPLC. Words matter. Learn what they mean.

DP. I'm not saying the so-called "Moms for Liberty" group is a white-supremacist or "Christian"-nationalist group. I'm saying white supremacists and/or so-called Christian nationalists believe the so-called "Moms for Liberty" group is white supremacists and/or so-called "Christian" nationalists.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate splitting hairs on this topic, but I think the distinction is an important one. Moms for Liberty is absolutely a hate group that upholds white supremacy. However, it's not a "White supremacist" group in the way most people understand that term - to refer to groups that explicitly and often violently uphold the notion that White people are superior to other groups. I think Mink was really stretching on this and unfortunately and unintentionally perpetuates a discourse about Muslims as violent terrorists that is really not helpful.

Okay, then we can say "CAIR is making a mistake by aligning themselves with a hate group that upholds white supremacy."

But I also think you are splitting hairs too finely here. Just because a group is not themselves engaged in white supremacist violence, does not mean they are not white supremacist at the core.

There is a difference between White supremacy and White supremacist (the term Mink used). You can deny it all you want. I think what she said was offensive and harmful to all Muslim Americans and a slap in the face to a community whose kids have been called "terrorists" since they were little.

Eh? White supremacists are people who support white supremacy. White supremacy is a belief supported by white supremacists. I honestly don't understand your point.

You need to educate yourself. Look up a list of White supremacist organizations in the United States. Nobody refers to Moms for Liberty as a White supremacist organization, not even the SPLC. Words matter. Learn what they mean.

DP. I'm not saying the so-called "Moms for Liberty" group is a white-supremacist or "Christian"-nationalist group. I'm saying white supremacists and/or so-called Christian nationalists believe the so-called "Moms for Liberty" group is white supremacists and/or so-called "Christian" nationalists.

I don't know who you are trying to convince and of what, but you've failed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate splitting hairs on this topic, but I think the distinction is an important one. Moms for Liberty is absolutely a hate group that upholds white supremacy. However, it's not a "White supremacist" group in the way most people understand that term - to refer to groups that explicitly and often violently uphold the notion that White people are superior to other groups. I think Mink was really stretching on this and unfortunately and unintentionally perpetuates a discourse about Muslims as violent terrorists that is really not helpful.

Okay, then we can say "CAIR is making a mistake by aligning themselves with a hate group that upholds white supremacy."

But I also think you are splitting hairs too finely here. Just because a group is not themselves engaged in white supremacist violence, does not mean they are not white supremacist at the core.

There is a difference between White supremacy and White supremacist (the term Mink used). You can deny it all you want. I think what she said was offensive and harmful to all Muslim Americans and a slap in the face to a community whose kids have been called "terrorists" since they were little.

Eh? White supremacists are people who support white supremacy. White supremacy is a belief supported by white supremacists. I honestly don't understand your point.

You need to educate yourself. Look up a list of White supremacist organizations in the United States. Nobody refers to Moms for Liberty as a White supremacist organization, not even the SPLC. Words matter. Learn what they mean.

DP. I'm not saying the so-called "Moms for Liberty" group is a white-supremacist or "Christian"-nationalist group. I'm saying white supremacists and/or so-called Christian nationalists believe the so-called "Moms for Liberty" group is white supremacists and/or so-called "Christian" nationalists.

You mentioned that earlier. Is there a quote or link to that?

[Anonymous]

BTW she knows very well what she is doing. She knows if she tells Moms for Liberty that they are White supremacists (notice she didn't do that), they will vigorously deny it, maybe even sue her. She tells that to "Muslims" and she knows they don't want to be allied with White supremacists because when people assume Muslims are linked to violent extremists, they get persecuted.

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Anonymous wrote:BTW she knows very well what she is doing. She knows if she tells Moms for Liberty that they are White supremacists (notice she didn't do that), they will vigorously deny it, maybe even sue her. She tells that to "Muslims" and she knows they don't want to be allied with White supremacists because when people assume Muslims are linked to violent extremists, they get persecuted.

Yes, progressives would not be able to tell Muslims that banning LGBTQ books is bigoted the same way they do to Christians. What they can do is white savior them from "joining in white supremacist views" which immediately discounts their views on a subject.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BTW she knows very well what she is doing. She knows if she tells Moms for Liberty that they are White supremacists (notice she didn't do that), they will vigorously deny it, maybe even sue her. She tells that to "Muslims" and she knows they don't want to be allied with White supremacists because when people assume Muslims are linked to violent extremists, they get persecuted.

LOL