I'm a rationale conservative - can you convince me voting rights legislation is needed?

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin and the GOP just tried to restrict voting in VA. That was killed in the Senate.

But, hey, thanks mask haters and anti-CRT folks who voting them in . . . the GOP is trying left and right to pass things that would take us back to the times of "Macaca" and transvaginal ultrasounds.

But our childrens. They will learns about that slavery was bad, and my childrens never experiences learning in my conservative home. I don’t want the wrong kind of people voting anyway. /

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I clicked over and there’s a whole thread. She’s 50. She’s a responsible citizen. She’s a mother. She’s voted in every election since she was 18, including taking the time to get absentee ballots when she’s going to be abroad.

This is fascism. There is no defense for this.

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Where are all the mouthy Repos at? You said voting security is the hugest deal, and here there’s a startling case of actual voter fraud and no one’s talking about tightening restrictions on voting for Republicans. They’re the only ones who commit voting fraud; maybe they should have some higher security.

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Anonymous wrote:Not a Trumper here. I agree that Gerrymandering is bad and ideally would not happen. Clearly it's a problem with both parties.

Honestly, I don't buy the voter suppression and "democracy at stake" hyperbole. Anyone that wants to vote can vote, right? Yes, it might be inconvenient for some based on their work schedule, but that's always been the case. And In most places you can already vote by mail.

When I hear that democracy is at stake, I tune out because it's a huge exaggeration in my mind.

I'm open to argument, though. Can you change my mind?

No.

Why can’t every eligible person vote for a 3 week 24 hour a day 7 day a week period leading up to an election?
What is the harm?

No state’s going to pay poll workers 24 hours a day, each day, for three weeks. I hate Trump and I strongly oppose Republican changes in the voting laws but no state’s going to pay for this.

If only they had boxes one could drive or walk up to. Then they could deposit their vote at any time.

There are. They are called mail boxes. They are welcomed to use them.

Not with Republicans suing to end voting by mail or doing fascist crap like leaving only one box in Democratic areas in which to deposit absentee votes. If the GOP didn’t cheat, they wouldn’t win. Just to reiterate for the tenth or so time this thread: the GOP in Texas knows they’ve lost on numbers and that only their cheating has helped them hold the state. That’s fascism.

and they know it and this is why they are promoting fascism.

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Texas must be far bluer* than we imagined for the GOP to be cheating like this.

* https://www.newsweek.com/texas-ag-says-trump-wouldve-lost-state-if-it-hadnt-blocked-mail-ballots-applications-being-1597909

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Texas must be far bluer* than we imagined for the GOP to be cheating like this.

* https://www.newsweek.com/texas-ag-says-trump-wouldve-lost-state-if-it-hadnt-blocked-mail-ballots-applications-being-1597909

Maybe, just maybe.... the ballots were rejected for good reason.

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Texas must be far bluer* than we imagined for the GOP to be cheating like this.

* https://www.newsweek.com/texas-ag-says-trump-wouldve-lost-state-if-it-hadnt-blocked-mail-ballots-applications-being-1597909

Maybe, just maybe.... the ballots were rejected for good reason.

Please, do tell! What reason?

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Texas must be far bluer* than we imagined for the GOP to be cheating like this.

* https://www.newsweek.com/texas-ag-says-trump-wouldve-lost-state-if-it-hadnt-blocked-mail-ballots-applications-being-1597909

Maybe, just maybe.... the ballots were rejected for good reason.

Please, do tell! What reason?

They were likely for Democrats. Can’t have that in the People’s Republic of Texas.

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Texas must be far bluer* than we imagined for the GOP to be cheating like this.

* https://www.newsweek.com/texas-ag-says-trump-wouldve-lost-state-if-it-hadnt-blocked-mail-ballots-applications-being-1597909

Maybe, just maybe.... the ballots were rejected for good reason.

Please, do tell! What reason?

They were likely for Democrats. Can’t have that in the People’s Republic of Texas.

The reason....

"Based on what we have heard from county election officials, the vast majority of mail-in ballot rejections were due to voters who did not provide any ID information on their carrier envelope," Sam Taylor, assistant secretary of state for communications, said in a statement.

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/16/1086908593/texas-mail-ballot-rejection-final-rates-harris-williamson-counties

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Texas must be far bluer* than we imagined for the GOP to be cheating like this.

* https://www.newsweek.com/texas-ag-says-trump-wouldve-lost-state-if-it-hadnt-blocked-mail-ballots-applications-being-1597909

Maybe, just maybe.... the ballots were rejected for good reason.

Please, do tell! What reason?

They were likely for Democrats. Can’t have that in the People’s Republic of Texas.

The reason....

"Based on what we have heard from county election officials, the vast majority of mail-in ballot rejections were due to voters who did not provide any ID information on their carrier envelope," Sam Taylor, assistant secretary of state for communications, said in a statement.

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/16/1086908593/texas-mail-ballot-rejection-final-rates-harris-williamson-counties

So you have to put the ID information on the ballot AND on the envelope. Why? And it has to be the same identifying information you used to register to vote, perhaps decades ago. Do any of you remember whether you registered using your driver’s license number or using your social security number? I don’t. Both are fine but it has to be the one you used.
“Under Texas' new voting law, known as Senate Bill 1, voters have to provide a partial Social Security number or driver's license number on their mail ballot application — as well as on the return envelope. And the ID number they provide has to match what's on their voter registration record, which could be from decades ago.

Davis said this new requirement tripped up an unprecedented number of voters. He and his staff helped many of them fix their ballots, but some voters did not fix their ballot in time to be counted.”

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Anonymous wrote:

Texas must be far bluer* than we imagined for the GOP to be cheating like this.

* https://www.newsweek.com/texas-ag-says-trump-wouldve-lost-state-if-it-hadnt-blocked-mail-ballots-applications-being-1597909

Maybe, just maybe.... the ballots were rejected for good reason.

Please, do tell! What reason?

They were likely for Democrats. Can’t have that in the People’s Republic of Texas.

The reason....

"Based on what we have heard from county election officials, the vast majority of mail-in ballot rejections were due to voters who did not provide any ID information on their carrier envelope," Sam Taylor, assistant secretary of state for communications, said in a statement.

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/16/1086908593/texas-mail-ballot-rejection-final-rates-harris-williamson-counties

So you have to put the ID information on the ballot AND on the envelope. Why? And it has to be the same identifying information you used to register to vote, perhaps decades ago. Do any of you remember whether you registered using your driver’s license number or using your social security number? I don’t. Both are fine but it has to be the one you used.

“Under Texas' new voting law, known as Senate Bill 1, voters have to provide a partial Social Security number or driver's license number on their mail ballot application — as well as on the return envelope. And the ID number they provide has to match what's on their voter registration record, which could be from decades ago.

Davis said this new requirement tripped up an unprecedented number of voters. He and his staff helped many of them fix their ballots, but some voters did not fix their ballot in time to be counted.”

Hmmm no one can answer these questions.