RW vs LW news

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Anonymous wrote:The WSJ and USA Today are the only real newspapers in the US today.

The rest are propaganda machines. And that includes most TV if not all.

WSJ is right wing.

Only if you believe actual facts and news are right wing.

95% of the paper is a hardcore, objective newspaper, and the few opinion pages (yes, leaning right) are in one section you can simply jump over.

Compare that with the NYT or WaPo, where there's no way to separate facts and news from the (clearly left) opinions everywhere.

No babe.
The WSJ opinion pages don’t “lean right”. They drifted off into crank territory after 2016. And it’s a real shame because it besmirches the good name of a formerly great paper.

Sweetie, if you're gonna lie do it in less an obvious manner. You can say many things about the WSJ, but "crank territory" is certainly not one. You must be projecting your own crank views. Stay sane.

DP. “Stay sane”? I see why you don’t have a problem with WSJ’s nutso editorial staff.

“The Journal has a distinctly conservative, finance-focused sensibility; it also belongs squarely among the New York media elite. It is not where many reporters aspire to land, however, in large part because its reputation is so tainted by incendiary op-eds. For decades, the Journal newsroom has grumbled about leaps of logic and reckless ideology on the opinion side. During Trump’s presidency, the grumbling grew into a roar.” https://www.cjr.org/special_report/breaking_right_wall_street_journal_stubborn_murdoch.php

A few examples of absolutely insane WSJ editorials provided in that article include one that suggested that Dr Biden shouldn’t call herself a doctor because she’s not a doctor and a Mike Pence special that there’s no second covid wave. I mean…

Good that you seem to trust CJR. Now explain and link to their 2023 series exposè of the NYT and WaPo fabrications and sustained biases since 2017.

[Anonymous]

WSJ reports write letter complaining about the fetid cess pool that is the WSJ OP ED PAGE

https://www.wsj.com/articles/wsj-journalists-ask-publisher-for-clearer-distinction-between-news-and-opinion-content-11595349198

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The WSJ and USA Today are the only real newspapers in the US today.

The rest are propaganda machines. And that includes most TV if not all.

WSJ is right wing.

Only if you believe actual facts and news are right wing.

95% of the paper is a hardcore, objective newspaper, and the few opinion pages (yes, leaning right) are in one section you can simply jump over.

Compare that with the NYT or WaPo, where there's no way to separate facts and news from the (clearly left) opinions everywhere.

No babe.
The WSJ opinion pages don’t “lean right”. They drifted off into crank territory after 2016. And it’s a real shame because it besmirches the good name of a formerly great paper.

Sweetie, if you're gonna lie do it in less an obvious manner. You can say many things about the WSJ, but "crank territory" is certainly not one. You must be projecting your own crank views. Stay sane.

DP. “Stay sane”? I see why you don’t have a problem with WSJ’s nutso editorial staff.

“The Journal has a distinctly conservative, finance-focused sensibility; it also belongs squarely among the New York media elite. It is not where many reporters aspire to land, however, in large part because its reputation is so tainted by incendiary op-eds. For decades, the Journal newsroom has grumbled about leaps of logic and reckless ideology on the opinion side. During Trump’s presidency, the grumbling grew into a roar.” https://www.cjr.org/special_report/breaking_right_wall_street_journal_stubborn_murdoch.php

A few examples of absolutely insane WSJ editorials provided in that article include one that suggested that Dr Biden shouldn’t call herself a doctor because she’s not a doctor and a Mike Pence special that there’s no second covid wave. I mean…

Good that you seem to trust CJR. Now explain and link to their 2023 series exposè of the NYT and WaPo fabrications and sustained biases since 2017.

Whataboutism is lame. Stay on topic “sweetie”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The WSJ and USA Today are the only real newspapers in the US today.

The rest are propaganda machines. And that includes most TV if not all.

WSJ is right wing.

Only if you believe actual facts and news are right wing.

95% of the paper is a hardcore, objective newspaper, and the few opinion pages (yes, leaning right) are in one section you can simply jump over.

Compare that with the NYT or WaPo, where there's no way to separate facts and news from the (clearly left) opinions everywhere.

No babe.
The WSJ opinion pages don’t “lean right”. They drifted off into crank territory after 2016. And it’s a real shame because it besmirches the good name of a formerly great paper.

Sweetie, if you're gonna lie do it in less an obvious manner. You can say many things about the WSJ, but "crank territory" is certainly not one. You must be projecting your own crank views. Stay sane.

DP. “Stay sane”? I see why you don’t have a problem with WSJ’s nutso editorial staff.

“The Journal has a distinctly conservative, finance-focused sensibility; it also belongs squarely among the New York media elite. It is not where many reporters aspire to land, however, in large part because its reputation is so tainted by incendiary op-eds. For decades, the Journal newsroom has grumbled about leaps of logic and reckless ideology on the opinion side. During Trump’s presidency, the grumbling grew into a roar.” https://www.cjr.org/special_report/breaking_right_wall_street_journal_stubborn_murdoch.php

A few examples of absolutely insane WSJ editorials provided in that article include one that suggested that Dr Biden shouldn’t call herself a doctor because she’s not a doctor and a Mike Pence special that there’s no second covid wave. I mean…

Good that you seem to trust CJR. Now explain and link to their 2023 series exposè of the NYT and WaPo fabrications and sustained biases since 2017.

Whataboutism is lame. Stay on topic “sweetie”

Babe, standards are standards, and you're not credible when you only apply them to one side. This is why the media has lost so much trust.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WSJ reports write letter complaining about the fetid cess pool that is the WSJ OP ED PAGE

https://www.wsj.com/articles/wsj-journalists-ask-publisher-for-clearer-distinction-between-news-and-opinion-content-11595349198

That's from 2020 but yes, everyone knows WSJ op ed is a joke and lots of cancelled subscriptions over it. Which is too bad for the serious journalists.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The WSJ and USA Today are the only real newspapers in the US today.

The rest are propaganda machines. And that includes most TV if not all.

WSJ is right wing.

Only if you believe actual facts and news are right wing.

95% of the paper is a hardcore, objective newspaper, and the few opinion pages (yes, leaning right) are in one section you can simply jump over.

Compare that with the NYT or WaPo, where there's no way to separate facts and news from the (clearly left) opinions everywhere.

No babe.
The WSJ opinion pages don’t “lean right”. They drifted off into crank territory after 2016. And it’s a real shame because it besmirches the good name of a formerly great paper.

Sweetie, if you're gonna lie do it in less an obvious manner. You can say many things about the WSJ, but "crank territory" is certainly not one. You must be projecting your own crank views. Stay sane.

DP. “Stay sane”? I see why you don’t have a problem with WSJ’s nutso editorial staff.

“The Journal has a distinctly conservative, finance-focused sensibility; it also belongs squarely among the New York media elite. It is not where many reporters aspire to land, however, in large part because its reputation is so tainted by incendiary op-eds. For decades, the Journal newsroom has grumbled about leaps of logic and reckless ideology on the opinion side. During Trump’s presidency, the grumbling grew into a roar.” https://www.cjr.org/special_report/breaking_right_wall_street_journal_stubborn_murdoch.php

A few examples of absolutely insane WSJ editorials provided in that article include one that suggested that Dr Biden shouldn’t call herself a doctor because she’s not a doctor and a Mike Pence special that there’s no second covid wave. I mean…

Good that you seem to trust CJR. Now explain and link to their 2023 series exposè of the NYT and WaPo fabrications and sustained biases since 2017.

Whataboutism is lame. Stay on topic “sweetie”

Babe, standards are standards, and you're not credible when you only apply them to one side. This is why the media has lost so much trust.

Cry harder. You lost your argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WSJ reports write letter complaining about the fetid cess pool that is the WSJ OP ED PAGE

https://www.wsj.com/articles/wsj-journalists-ask-publisher-for-clearer-distinction-between-news-and-opinion-content-11595349198

Read Bari Weiss' resignation letter from the NYT around that same time, talking about the fetid cess pool not just in the Op Ed page there but in the WHOLE PAPER.

Recently The Economist has published a scathing in-depth piece on the same, making the WSJ look like a parangon of editorial standards in comparison.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The WSJ and USA Today are the only real newspapers in the US today.

The rest are propaganda machines. And that includes most TV if not all.

WSJ is right wing.

Only if you believe actual facts and news are right wing.

95% of the paper is a hardcore, objective newspaper, and the few opinion pages (yes, leaning right) are in one section you can simply jump over.

Compare that with the NYT or WaPo, where there's no way to separate facts and news from the (clearly left) opinions everywhere.

No babe.
The WSJ opinion pages don’t “lean right”. They drifted off into crank territory after 2016. And it’s a real shame because it besmirches the good name of a formerly great paper.

Sweetie, if you're gonna lie do it in less an obvious manner. You can say many things about the WSJ, but "crank territory" is certainly not one. You must be projecting your own crank views. Stay sane.

DP. “Stay sane”? I see why you don’t have a problem with WSJ’s nutso editorial staff.

“The Journal has a distinctly conservative, finance-focused sensibility; it also belongs squarely among the New York media elite. It is not where many reporters aspire to land, however, in large part because its reputation is so tainted by incendiary op-eds. For decades, the Journal newsroom has grumbled about leaps of logic and reckless ideology on the opinion side. During Trump’s presidency, the grumbling grew into a roar.” https://www.cjr.org/special_report/breaking_right_wall_street_journal_stubborn_murdoch.php

A few examples of absolutely insane WSJ editorials provided in that article include one that suggested that Dr Biden shouldn’t call herself a doctor because she’s not a doctor and a Mike Pence special that there’s no second covid wave. I mean…

Good that you seem to trust CJR. Now explain and link to their 2023 series exposè of the NYT and WaPo fabrications and sustained biases since 2017.

Whataboutism is lame. Stay on topic “sweetie”

Babe, standards are standards, and you're not credible when you only apply them to one side. This is why the media has lost so much trust.

So go dig through and find the article, post a snippet and why you agree or disagree. Don’t “now answer my whole feelings about why the media is unfair to the professional victim squad GOP” and expect anyone to take your whataboutism seriously.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:WSJ reports write letter complaining about the fetid cess pool that is the WSJ OP ED PAGE

https://www.wsj.com/articles/wsj-journalists-ask-publisher-for-clearer-distinction-between-news-and-opinion-content-11595349198

Read Bari Weiss' resignation letter from the NYT around that same time, talking about the fetid cess pool not just in the Op Ed page there but in the WHOLE PAPER.

Recently The Economist has published a scathing in-depth piece on the same, making the WSJ look like a parangon of editorial standards in comparison.

Any idiot, like Weiss, can make any claims she wants, but any wise person can look at the oodles of examples of the New York Times giving Republicans preferential treatment and understand that Weiss is just another conservative whack job who is working the refs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WSJ reports write letter complaining about the fetid cess pool that is the WSJ OP ED PAGE

https://www.wsj.com/articles/wsj-journalists-ask-publisher-for-clearer-distinction-between-news-and-opinion-content-11595349198

Read Bari Weiss' resignation letter from the NYT around that same time, talking about the fetid cess pool not just in the Op Ed page there but in the WHOLE PAPER.

Recently The Economist has published a scathing in-depth piece on the same, making the WSJ look like a parangon of editorial standards in comparison.

Any idiot, like Weiss, can make any claims she wants, but any wise person can look at the oodles of examples of the New York Times giving Republicans preferential treatment and understand that Weiss is just another conservative whack job who is working the refs.

You're going to truly enjoy this, fresh from The Economist:
https://www.economist.com/1843/2023/12/14/when-the-new-york-times-lost-its-way

"The Times could learn something from the Wall Street Journal, which has kept its journalistic poise. It has maintained a stricter separation between its news and opinion journalism, including its cultural criticism, and that has protected the integrity of its work. "

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WSJ reports write letter complaining about the fetid cess pool that is the WSJ OP ED PAGE

https://www.wsj.com/articles/wsj-journalists-ask-publisher-for-clearer-distinction-between-news-and-opinion-content-11595349198

Read Bari Weiss' resignation letter from the NYT around that same time, talking about the fetid cess pool not just in the Op Ed page there but in the WHOLE PAPER.

Recently The Economist has published a scathing in-depth piece on the same, making the WSJ look like a parangon of editorial standards in comparison.

Any idiot, like Weiss, can make any claims she wants, but any wise person can look at the oodles of examples of the New York Times giving Republicans preferential treatment and understand that Weiss is just another conservative whack job who is working the refs.

You're going to truly enjoy this, fresh from The Economist:
https://www.economist.com/1843/2023/12/14/when-the-new-york-times-lost-its-way

"The Times could learn something from the Wall Street Journal, which has kept its journalistic poise. It has maintained a stricter separation between its news and opinion journalism, including its cultural criticism, and that has protected the integrity of its work. "

Did you just post an op-ed critical of the NYT, by the guy forced to resign from the NYT’s?
Really. This is your smug gotcha?
🤦‍♂️
Yeah. I’m sure the dude they sh—- canned from the Ed page 3 years ago has some feelings and thoughts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The WSJ and USA Today are the only real newspapers in the US today.

The rest are propaganda machines. And that includes most TV if not all.

WSJ is right wing.

Only if you believe actual facts and news are right wing.

95% of the paper is a hardcore, objective newspaper, and the few opinion pages (yes, leaning right) are in one section you can simply jump over.

Compare that with the NYT or WaPo, where there's no way to separate facts and news from the (clearly left) opinions everywhere.

No babe.
The WSJ opinion pages don’t “lean right”. They drifted off into crank territory after 2016. And it’s a real shame because it besmirches the good name of a formerly great paper.

Sweetie, if you're gonna lie do it in less an obvious manner. You can say many things about the WSJ, but "crank territory" is certainly not one. You must be projecting your own crank views. Stay sane.

+100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The WSJ and USA Today are the only real newspapers in the US today.

The rest are propaganda machines. And that includes most TV if not all.

WSJ is right wing.

Only if you believe actual facts and news are right wing.

95% of the paper is a hardcore, objective newspaper, and the few opinion pages (yes, leaning right) are in one section you can simply jump over.

Compare that with the NYT or WaPo, where there's no way to separate facts and news from the (clearly left) opinions everywhere.

No babe.
The WSJ opinion pages don’t “lean right”. They drifted off into crank territory after 2016. And it’s a real shame because it besmirches the good name of a formerly great paper.

Sweetie, if you're gonna lie do it in less an obvious manner. You can say many things about the WSJ, but "crank territory" is certainly not one. You must be projecting your own crank views. Stay sane.

+100

- 200 of their own journalists disagree with you cranks, and wrote a letter saying as much.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can barely consume either now. Never followed RW news but LW has become so biased and manipulative I can’t stand it. So I am walking around clueless but happier.

Which LW news, specifically? WaPo is only slightly left of center. Are they biased? Sure. But a lot of things they report that the right whines about as "so biased and manipulative" is in fact spot on, the right wing just doesn't like hearing it. And since they don't like hearing it they scream "fake news" and whine that it's manipulative when they aren't nearly as much the problem as the right is.

I am a center left independent (not right wing) who stopped reading WaPo halfway through the Trump administration. Too many click-baity headlines. Now I primarily read WSJ and the economist. I don't disagree with your point that they arent as manipulative as most of the right wing new sources; however, it is no longer regularly providing points of view that I value in news sources.

So you are cherry picking. You don't like those points of view, so you go somewhere that reinforces your point of view.

No one is interested in facts anymore. Just having their own beliefs parroted back to them.