
Not funny, this is the way the clbus structured the I'D sessions. Every club in this area is charging for their DA training about $2,300. Who do you think is going to be accepting the offers? What they're ID'ing at these "venters" isn't talent. |
Ok "CCL guy", don't go bi-polar on us... lol man I hadn't even said anything to you, but you decided to out yourself because you want attention. Do your kids even play anymore? From your last post it seems as of they're teenagers at least. Stay anonymous and noone will talk to you anymore, unless you want attention so bad you're willing to play the role as the "troll" |
**1000! |
The kids last year that are on the team. They arent from the home clubs. Those kids couldn't make it. |
Personally, I find CCL guy, as you like to inaccurately disparage him, to be much more useful to the board than you, whose only contribute is to insult people. |
One basic problem here is that the pyramid is upside-down.
Basic "travel" soccer should be accessible. In a densely populated area like this, we should be able to get good games without piling up travel costs. Imagine if we got all the players who want to play travel -- especially those who have either been priced out or don't have six hours to make a round-trip every Sunday -- and gave them opportunities to play at a level that suits them. We don't need as much "elite" travel. This is driven by delusional parents and coaches. Maybe things will settle in a few years. Perhaps an NCSL/ODSL merger or ODSL/SFL merger. Perhaps CCL, EDP and VPL can put egos aside and realize how silly it is to have three "elite" leagues in addition to DA and ECNL. But frankly, I worry less about the latter. If "elite" players want freedom of choice among five elite leagues, so be it. Just make things more sensible for the rest of us. And come in and scout the rest of us every once in a while -- I certainly hope an enterprising DA or college coach skips the occasional big-money elite-league showcase and checks out a Cougars game or two. |
Could be because most clubs don't know they exist or even look outside their bubble. Kind of like the overall scouting system in the U.S. which is non-existent. The players must go to them and pay to be seen versus the other way around. At this age it's also likely that the parents value the education that the players are getting at this team. Maybe they feel valued versus just being one of the many. There are good players and coaches at small clubs just like the big ones but people don't usually bother to look or give them an opportunity. Good for them if they are finding a way to be competitive and continue to develop within their means. Maybe those are the kids that down the road in the older ages will continue playing at a high level and maybe filling the "Academy" teams of the so called big clubs. |
too funny, we must have been thinking the same thing as we were posting. ha ha. |
It's a shame our closed system doesn't allow them to be exposed to better competition b/c they're from a small club. As they get older and seak better competition it may force them to find a different club either individually as a team. |
I've contributed more, in other posts, not in this one. I think you mean the posts were useful. To that I would encourage you to go back in this forum and read several conversations relating to CCL and travel. This guy disparaged, insulted, and mocked everyone who complained about the travel. He may have had a few substantive posts, the problem is that he has repeated those continuously, which is why some other poster called him a "broken record". |
I find that hard to believe, unless you are confusing "non-elite" with "non-ccl". Which DA team are you taking about? |
The league and club proliferation has nothing to do with player development or development of the game in the US and everything to do with $$$$$$$$. Until it's profitable to consolidate, the consolidation won't happen. Also, anyone looked at how clubs/leagues are now spinning off tournament companies? And saying that the leagues (ERL for instance) have to participate in those tournaments? Thus doubling the cash extraction from club consumers, i.e., parents? Total racket. |
The DA teams are at CCL clubs. I take it as---majority of players that made the first round of DA teams at these CCL clubs last year did not play in a CCL club from U9-u12. |
I've read everything posted in this thread and have made a lot of the posts myself, but as much as "CCl guy" is a broken record for saying parents can and should join a team where the amount of travel is something they're comfortable with, so too are you a broken record not just on responding to his posts but also bringing him up in discussions where he hasn't made a post. And those posts (calling him out) add nothing to the substance of this discussion. |
I know a good majority selected played for a team in NCSL that wasn't anywhere near the top division---hence the use of the term "non-elite". Btw, I think it's a ridiculous thing to call any kids U12 and under elite. That age should be all about individual development and developing individual technique and very little with team-focus/wins, etc. Games should merely be means to practice not determine a players 'eliteness'. Good lord. It sure doesn't take talent to win at the younger ages. A good majority of those kids still can't keep a pass on the ground or trap it---much less dribble with their head-up. |