Fire in upper NW?

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Anonymous wrote:To the poster who is thinking about this "all day, every day." I think you need to try to get yourself to stop thinking about this. It doesn't help anyone and it won't make this go away. You may just make yourself ill. I'm not a doctor or psychologist, but I think that obsessing over something this upsetting and horrible could have long-term effects.

If you were close to the family, then ignore my comment. I have no business advising you.

I didn't know the family. I'm a new mother and all I can think about is that child, what he went through, and what his family went through. Am I the only one? I guess I need to stay off of this thread but I feel compelled to learn everything there is to know about what happened, and think about what I can do to protect myself and my family from monsters like this who exist in our world.

I had the same reaction when I heard about the T.C. Maslin murder, thinking about my husband. It ate me up, and I was so, so scared and so obsessed with the case. In the end it turned out to be the some of the first clinical signs of severe anxiety and depression that I've been working on and medicating for. Please talk to someone about this, anyone. EAP line? Therapist? You need to deal with these emotions and assess how what happens fits into your life and mind. I know how the fear can consume you, and especially with such a high profile case, it's almost impossible to ignore. But you need help. I needed help but waited way too long to get it.

Um, TC Maslin is still alive.

To all those people obsessing about this case:
[b]STOP. IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU.

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This needs to be reposted a million times. Stick to the facts people. Not about how anxious and paranoid and hysterical you are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know if it's just one person or a particular dynamic, but saying things like "you newbies are a piece of work" is insulting. Why are you being so rude to other posters? Isn't there a way that you could communicate your substantive point (disabled alarm system) without being condescending, rude, and disdainful?

It happens on every forum. Veteran posters believe they own the conversation.

HAHAHA! "Veteran posters" is a euphemism for people who have nothing better to do than monitor threads on DCUM. Seriously, some of these posters scare me. Most of us probably go days without time to waste on DCUM. Get out there and live your lives people. This is not healthy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:JW lied about the car being locked or unlocked. The suspicion is that the locked car would mean JW interacted with someone in the house instead of placing it on the car seat, when dropping off the cash.

Thanks. Honestly, I've been too dense to understand the significance of that innocuous fact/lie. In due time, we will know about JW's involvement, if any. If he was (and that's still a big if given the mountain of information not publicly known) it's scary to think he was invited/hired into their world and allowed such close personal access. I suspect SS and AS were like most parents: careful about who is allowed access into their family. Plainly, there was no hint any of their household employees were capable of this. Again, though, still very possible he wasn't involved. Lying in this context, especially about seemingly innocuous facts, is a big red flag.

Expired Mosler registration found in one of JW's backpacks which were in his BMW.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't stop thinking about this family. Why didn't they scream to call 911, especially when their child was being hurt and there was nothing to lose? I can't get this out of my head -- I have no connection to this family but I find myself tearing up about it multiple times a day.

I can relate. I have no connection to the family either but am shocked to the core with what seems like an outright act of evil. They killers could have gotten the money without resorting to torture. I'm sure Mr. Savapoulos would have done anything to protect his family and their housekeeper.

I play through in my mind what would have happened if he did blurt out to call 911 during one of his phone calls: would the killers have fled immediately? Would they have killed the child and then fled? Killed everyone and fled? I know it's just Monday morning quarterbacking at this point, but like others, I think , what if?

You do have a connection----- with feeling of being vulnerable and unsafe. One way to get past this vulnerability feeling is to make some plans of what you might do in such a scenario and then obvious ways to keep you safe on the street and in your home. You have more control than you realize and you probably would not have this situation happen to you. If if did you would have thought out scenario responses and would be ahead in that situation b/c you thought it out without the stress of being in the actual situation that the family found themselves. This could be a way to move forward ---focusing on what you do have control of, making options, choosing what fits you and then moving on to positive aspects in your life. Wishing you and others serenity.

no. stop. this is gross and insulting to the family and friends of the victims.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The house had a security system, so the security company and the police probably had several contact numbers, including Savvas' office at AIW.

A neighbor may have had the office number, but any neighbor who knew the name of the business could have looked up the number and called.

When a house is on fire, a lot of people immediately try to contact the owner.

Genius statement of the year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JW lied about the car being locked or unlocked. The suspicion is that the locked car would mean JW interacted with someone in the house instead of placing it on the car seat, when dropping off the cash.

Thanks. Honestly, I've been too dense to understand the significance of that innocuous fact/lie. In due time, we will know about JW's involvement, if any. If he was (and that's still a big if given the mountain of information not publicly known) it's scary to think he was invited/hired into their world and allowed such close personal access. I suspect SS and AS were like most parents: careful about who is allowed access into their family. Plainly, there was no hint any of their household employees were capable of this. Again, though, still very possible he wasn't involved. Lying in this context, especially about seemingly innocuous facts, is a big red flag.

Expired Mosler registration found in one of JW's backpacks which were in his BMW.

As per search warrant in Washington Post.

[Anonymous]

The Lawn crew and the HVAC company:

Was there further info on the lawn crew?
What happened to the person who said on camera early on …on May 14 that his ?brother was working on the heating/AC system and he was worried about his brother as he had not heard from him.

Do you remember this too? Was curious if there was any follow up on this

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Lawn crew and the HVAC company:

Was there further info on the lawn crew?
What happened to the person who said on camera early on …on May 14 that his ?brother was working on the heating/AC system and he was worried about his brother as he had not heard from him.

Do you remember this too? Was curious if there was any follow up on this

I remember this. Undoubtedly there have been enormous man-hours, round the clock, chasing all of these confusing and often conflicting events.

I am still wondering why the Porsche was burnt. If someone burnt up people and evidence at the house, I see no reason why there could not have been an additional murder, involving the Porsche, and the evidence of same being burnt.

Evil all around this tragedy.

[Anonymous]

Would it be appropriate to direct all our armchair investigators over to websleuths? They are breaking this down more than we ever could.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?281778-DC-Savvas-Savopoulos-family-amp-Veralicia-Figueroa-murdered-Daron-Wint-Arrested-10/page34

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Would it be appropriate to direct all our armchair investigators over to websleuths? They are breaking this down more than we ever could.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?281778-DC-Savvas-Savopoulos-family-amp-Veralicia-Figueroa-murdered-Daron-Wint-Arrested-10/page34

Nooooo!!!! Because then we are going to be left with just the people making collages about their grief for a family they have never met.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Would it be appropriate to direct all our armchair investigators over to websleuths? They are breaking this down more than we ever could.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?281778-DC-Savvas-Savopoulos-family-amp-Veralicia-Figueroa-murdered-Daron-Wint-Arrested-10/page34

I'm not really an armchair detective, but I did read a couple pages of the link you provided. If anyone thinks the speculation here is too much, they should check out the link.
For example, there is a completely innocent reason Jw may have had the Mosler registration in his backpack. Mr. Savapoulos allowed him to drive it, at least once that we know of based on the instagram pictures.

Mr. Savapoulos did not ask JW to race his Mosler, he just allowed him to drive it once (that we know of) and asked for an opinion from a race car driver about how the car handled. Probably a male bonding thing. those things are being discussed extensively on websleuths

Too much speculation for me, but I do appreciate the chance to read their discussion.

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Anonymous wrote:Just saw on Fox news that the investigation has shifted to the assistant. They focused on fact that the camera was stolen from the house prior to the crime.

The security camera?

Police are still searching for the family's extensive security system. CBS News learned Wednesday that the video recorder is missing.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/search-warrants-cast-suspicion-on-assistant-in-d-c-mansion-murders/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would it be appropriate to direct all our armchair investigators over to websleuths? They are breaking this down more than we ever could.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?281778-DC-Savvas-Savopoulos-family-amp-Veralicia-Figueroa-murdered-Daron-Wint-Arrested-10/page34

Nooooo!!!! Because then we are going to be left with just the people making collages about their grief for a family they have never met.

And another perspective could be:
It might just be that collage making person is empathic and sympathetic and would be the very person to help someone they did NOT know and NEVER MET vs the another person whom would say --"Hey -I never met them, there are not in my circle or community I will just move on". The person they never met that might need help ….could be you. Just Sayin'

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The house had a security system, so the security company and the police probably had several contact numbers, including Savvas' office at AIW.

A neighbor may have had the office number, but any neighbor who knew the name of the business could have looked up the number and called.

When a house is on fire, a lot of people immediately try to contact the owner.

You newbies are a piece of work. The alarm system was disabled.

Police are still searching for the family's extensive security system. CBS News learned Wednesday that the video recorder is missing.
Did the smoke detectors go off?? the alarm system is connected to the smoke detectors..and will call the alarm company that calls 911

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would it be appropriate to direct all our armchair investigators over to websleuths? They are breaking this down more than we ever could.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?281778-DC-Savvas-Savopoulos-family-amp-Veralicia-Figueroa-murdered-Daron-Wint-Arrested-10/page34

Nooooo!!!! Because then we are going to be left with just the people making collages about their grief for a family they have never met.

And another perspective could be:
It might just be that collage making person is empathic and sympathetic and would be the very person to help someone they did NOT know and NEVER MET vs the another person whom would say --"Hey -I never met them, there are not in my circle or community I will just move on". The person they never met that might need help ….could be you. Just Sayin'

Making collages is not a sign of empathy or sympathy in this case (where they don't know the family). It is a sign or narcissism and instability. The vast majority of sympathetic and empathetic people in this world don't make collages.