How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?

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Excuse me you bl--- racist. The largest contigent of students at TJ currently are indian AMERICAN who are born in this country and come from the largest democracy in the world that had universal suffrage YEARS before the USA had it. So please dont pretend to hide behind your racist and communal tropes when the enlightened liberal point of view would support transparent admission criteria that treats every student as an individual and not as part of some racial caste or category that they have no control over.

India doesn't do that. They have quotas for all sorts of groups on these admissions tests. Only they are up front and admit what they are doing rather than hiding behind 'holistic review'.

Yep. And the US of A is about to follow suit, slowly but surely. "Fixing" and dilution of the selection process for higher education. India has been doing this for decades now and guess who still runs the country? (clue: It's not the people that get these "set-aside" benefits despite them being the majority). Where I come from, almost 70% of the seats to higher ed schools are set aside for "backward" communities (yes. that's what they call themselves. The equivalent of our URMs).

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Anonymous wrote:Too many Asians at that school, that is the problem. Too many of any other race at any school is ok, but definitely not too many Asians.

Oh my god! I am so offended by this post! Please stop being racist!

What do you mean that too many Asians are bad, but other races are okay? How much do you really hate Asians? This is so offensive and the internet does not need this terrible content.

Pretty sure the first op was Asian voicing how she thinks people feel rather than someone of another race saying this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too many Asians at that school, that is the problem. Too many of any other race at any school is ok, but definitely not too many Asians.

Oh my god! I am so offended by this post! Please stop being racist!

What do you mean that too many Asians are bad, but other races are okay? How much do you really hate Asians? This is so offensive and the internet does not need this terrible content.

Pretty sure the first op was Asian voicing how she thinks people feel rather than someone of another race saying this.

That one was definitely sarcasm.

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Let's ban all prep for any competition. Ban prep for testing, ban training for sports competition, ban prep for rocket launch, ban training for combat, ban rehearsal for performance, ban practice for making music, .... All these are unfair to those who can't and don't want to prepare. Let's be all equal.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's ban all prep for any competition. Ban prep for testing, ban training for sports competition, ban prep for rocket launch, ban training for combat, ban rehearsal for performance, ban practice for making music, .... All these are unfair to those who can't and don't want to prepare. Let's be all equal.

Don’t be so foolish. You KNOW those are not the same circumstances. We are talking about access to a PUBLIC SCHOOL.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let's ban all prep for any competition. Ban prep for testing, ban training for sports competition, ban prep for rocket launch, ban training for combat, ban rehearsal for performance, ban practice for making music, .... All these are unfair to those who can't and don't want to prepare. Let's be all equal.

Don’t be so foolish. You KNOW those are not the same circumstances. We are talking about access to a PUBLIC SCHOOL.

Yeah dumb it down , it's a magento school not a lottery moron

[Anonymous]

Stop asian hate, hardwork, studying and intelligence is asian culture

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's ban all prep for any competition. Ban prep for testing, ban training for sports competition, ban prep for rocket launch, ban training for combat, ban rehearsal for performance, ban practice for making music, .... All these are unfair to those who can't and don't want to prepare. Let's be all equal.

No, we don't need to do all that. We just need to step in when, as in the TJ case, we see things like one prep company supplying twenty five percent of the class and students allege that they gave out information on the secure test that they signed a paper not to divulge information about, thereby compromising the integrity of the test.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop asian hate, hardwork, studying and intelligence is asian culture

Wanting to expand access to a public school isn't Asian hate. I support first generation kids getting preference in college admissions, that doesn't mean I hate my kids, who aren't first generation.

[Anonymous]

Questions for all of you:

If one test prep place that used previous test questions and got 25% of their students into a school were composed of all white people, would it spur a state wide movement to decrease the numbers of white students at the school?

If one test prep place that used previous test questions and got 25% of their students into a school were composed of all black people, would it spur a state wide movement to decrease the numbers of black students at the school?

Would all white or black students be treated as a monolith by the state and county or would the actions of these people be considered actions of individuals?

Dig deep and be real without making excuses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let's ban all prep for any competition. Ban prep for testing, ban training for sports competition, ban prep for rocket launch, ban training for combat, ban rehearsal for performance, ban practice for making music, .... All these are unfair to those who can't and don't want to prepare. Let's be all equal.

Don’t be so foolish. You KNOW those are not the same circumstances. We are talking about access to a PUBLIC SCHOOL.

There's no difference.

All are optional.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stop asian hate, hardwork, studying and intelligence is asian culture

Wanting to expand access to a public school isn't Asian hate. I support first generation kids getting preference in college admissions, that doesn't mean I hate my kids, who aren't first generation.

Disagree.

It's hatred for groups that prioritize education, effort, and long term planning.

If first gen immigrants can build those things, anyone else is free to copy what they have done and beat them at their own game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Questions for all of you:

If one test prep place that used previous test questions and got 25% of their students into a school were composed of all white people, would it spur a state wide movement to decrease the numbers of white students at the school?

If one test prep place that used previous test questions and got 25% of their students into a school were composed of all black people, would it spur a state wide movement to decrease the numbers of black students at the school?

Would all white or black students be treated as a monolith by the state and county or would the actions of these people be considered actions of individuals?

Dig deep and be real without making excuses.

You mischaracterize what is happening. There is no movement to reduce the number of Asian students, there's a movement to make admissions less susceptible to cheating. The new process is race neutral and sets a GPA benchmark for those who want to apply. It removed the advantage those who were willing to cheat had in the process. That doesn't make it an anti-Asian movement.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop asian hate, hardwork, studying and intelligence is asian culture

Wanting to expand access to a public school isn't Asian hate. I support first generation kids getting preference in college admissions, that doesn't mean I hate my kids, who aren't first generation.

Disagree.

It's hatred for groups that prioritize education, effort, and long term planning.

If first gen immigrants can build those things, anyone else is free to copy what they have done and beat them at their own game.

It's intolerance of a process that gave those with financial means and a willingness to circumvent test security an advantage in the admissions process. Focus your rath on those people instead of people who are left to fix the mess created by those who willingly gamed the system. They are a minority of applicants, but a large enough percent that something needed to be done. Creating a new test would help for one year and those willing to cheat would find a way the next year. That's why the test was eliminated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop asian hate, hardwork, studying and intelligence is asian culture

Wanting to expand access to a public school isn't Asian hate. I support first generation kids getting preference in college admissions, that doesn't mean I hate my kids, who aren't first generation.

Disagree.

It's hatred for groups that prioritize education, effort, and long term planning.

If first gen immigrants can build those things, anyone else is free to copy what they have done and beat them at their own game.

It's intolerance of a process that gave those with financial means and a willingness to circumvent test security an advantage in the admissions process. Focus your rath on those people instead of people who are left to fix the mess created by those who willingly gamed the system. They are a minority of applicants, but a large enough percent that something needed to be done. Creating a new test would help for one year and those willing to cheat would find a way the next year. That's why the test was eliminated.

changing test questions each year is low hanging fruit.