APS elementary planning initiative called off

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just a few points of the Nottingham analogy. First, Nottingham was facing complete dissolution of the school. Not a boundary change. ASF is complaining about boundary shifts. Second, Nottingham did make an effort not to trash other schools/families/children. And third, we did mock them pretty mercilessly (and appropriately) for their ridiculous petitions addressed to Beyer etc.
That said, the ASF drama is far more embarrassing to all of you. Parents, principal, the teacher who showed up and picked sides at the SB meeting. You are all ruining the reputation of what used to be considered a nice school. Ick.

Removing half the school is not far from dissolutions. Hardly just boundary shift.

DP. It is a boundary shift. ASFS is current a neighborhood school and is expected to remain a neighborhood school. Nottingham was proposed to change to an option school, and would no longer exist as a neighborhood school. These are different things. No one said Nottingham was dissolved when Discovery opened and Nottingham lost almost 40% of its student population, because that would have been absurd.

Didn't the Nottingham principal disappear? Why was the ASF principal allowed to take sides in the process?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just a few points of the Nottingham analogy. First, Nottingham was facing complete dissolution of the school. Not a boundary change. ASF is complaining about boundary shifts. Second, Nottingham did make an effort not to trash other schools/families/children. And third, we did mock them pretty mercilessly (and appropriately) for their ridiculous petitions addressed to Beyer etc.
That said, the ASF drama is far more embarrassing to all of you. Parents, principal, the teacher who showed up and picked sides at the SB meeting. You are all ruining the reputation of what used to be considered a nice school. Ick.

Removing half the school is not far from dissolutions. Hardly just boundary shift.

DP. It is a boundary shift. ASFS is current a neighborhood school and is expected to remain a neighborhood school. Nottingham was proposed to change to an option school, and would no longer exist as a neighborhood school. These are different things. No one said Nottingham was dissolved when Discovery opened and Nottingham lost almost 40% of its student population, because that would have been absurd.

Didn't the Nottingham principal disappear? Why was the ASF principal allowed to take sides in the process?

Nottingham's principal went on leave before Nottingham was first identified as a potential option site, and her leave had nothing to do with the location review. The acting principal was included in the location review process to provide information and insight into Nottingham-specific considerations. This was actually a source of significant concern among Nottingham parents, that the school was being represented by someone who had only been there a couple of weeks rather than someone with long-term experience with the school. Connie Skelton was great, though, she took a lot of time to attend the PTA meetings, talk to school staff and parents, etc., to understand everything as best she could before going into meetings with the APS staff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just a few points of the Nottingham analogy. First, Nottingham was facing complete dissolution of the school. Not a boundary change. ASF is complaining about boundary shifts. Second, Nottingham did make an effort not to trash other schools/families/children. And third, we did mock them pretty mercilessly (and appropriately) for their ridiculous petitions addressed to Beyer etc.
That said, the ASF drama is far more embarrassing to all of you. Parents, principal, the teacher who showed up and picked sides at the SB meeting. You are all ruining the reputation of what used to be considered a nice school. Ick.

Removing half the school is not far from dissolutions. Hardly just boundary shift.

DP. It is a boundary shift. ASFS is current a neighborhood school and is expected to remain a neighborhood school. Nottingham was proposed to change to an option school, and would no longer exist as a neighborhood school. These are different things. No one said Nottingham was dissolved when Discovery opened and Nottingham lost almost 40% of its student population, because that would have been absurd.

Build a brand new school closer to Rosslyn which won’t require 45 min bus rides and you won’t have complaints. Throw in a slide for the win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just a few points of the Nottingham analogy. First, Nottingham was facing complete dissolution of the school. Not a boundary change. ASF is complaining about boundary shifts. Second, Nottingham did make an effort not to trash other schools/families/children. And third, we did mock them pretty mercilessly (and appropriately) for their ridiculous petitions addressed to Beyer etc.
That said, the ASF drama is far more embarrassing to all of you. Parents, principal, the teacher who showed up and picked sides at the SB meeting. You are all ruining the reputation of what used to be considered a nice school. Ick.

Removing half the school is not far from dissolutions. Hardly just boundary shift.

DP. It is a boundary shift. ASFS is current a neighborhood school and is expected to remain a neighborhood school. Nottingham was proposed to change to an option school, and would no longer exist as a neighborhood school. These are different things. No one said Nottingham was dissolved when Discovery opened and Nottingham lost almost 40% of its student population, because that would have been absurd.

Build a brand new school closer to Rosslyn which won’t require 45 min bus rides and you won’t have complaints. Throw in a slide for the win.

Maybe they'll consider that for the new school to be built for 2029. Still doesn't make the current redrawing a dissolution, though, you're being ridiculously dramatic here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just a few points of the Nottingham analogy. First, Nottingham was facing complete dissolution of the school. Not a boundary change. ASF is complaining about boundary shifts. Second, Nottingham did make an effort not to trash other schools/families/children. And third, we did mock them pretty mercilessly (and appropriately) for their ridiculous petitions addressed to Beyer etc.
That said, the ASF drama is far more embarrassing to all of you. Parents, principal, the teacher who showed up and picked sides at the SB meeting. You are all ruining the reputation of what used to be considered a nice school. Ick.

Removing half the school is not far from dissolutions. Hardly just boundary shift.

DP. It is a boundary shift. ASFS is current a neighborhood school and is expected to remain a neighborhood school. Nottingham was proposed to change to an option school, and would no longer exist as a neighborhood school. These are different things. No one said Nottingham was dissolved when Discovery opened and Nottingham lost almost 40% of its student population, because that would have been absurd.

Build a brand new school closer to Rosslyn which won’t require 45 min bus rides and you won’t have complaints. Throw in a slide for the win.

Maybe they'll consider that for the new school to be built for 2029. Still doesn't make the current redrawing a dissolution, though, you're being ridiculously dramatic here.

My kids spending 5 hrs more a week on a bus b/c some parents feel it is their right to take over a school does not seem ridiculous. And again, dislocation if half a school is more than a boundary shift, get real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just a few points of the Nottingham analogy. First, Nottingham was facing complete dissolution of the school. Not a boundary change. ASF is complaining about boundary shifts. Second, Nottingham did make an effort not to trash other schools/families/children. And third, we did mock them pretty mercilessly (and appropriately) for their ridiculous petitions addressed to Beyer etc.
That said, the ASF drama is far more embarrassing to all of you. Parents, principal, the teacher who showed up and picked sides at the SB meeting. You are all ruining the reputation of what used to be considered a nice school. Ick.

Removing half the school is not far from dissolutions. Hardly just boundary shift.

DP. It is a boundary shift. ASFS is current a neighborhood school and is expected to remain a neighborhood school. Nottingham was proposed to change to an option school, and would no longer exist as a neighborhood school. These are different things. No one said Nottingham was dissolved when Discovery opened and Nottingham lost almost 40% of its student population, because that would have been absurd.

Build a brand new school closer to Rosslyn which won’t require 45 min bus rides and you won’t have complaints. Throw in a slide for the win.

Maybe they'll consider that for the new school to be built for 2029. Still doesn't make the current redrawing a dissolution, though, you're being ridiculously dramatic here.

My kids spending 5 hrs more a week on a bus b/c some parents feel it is their right to take over a school does not seem ridiculous. And again, dislocation if half a school is more than a boundary shift, get real.

You don’t even know that it will half the school so, again, you’re being ridiculously dramatic. And your kid spending less time on a bus probably comes at the expense of someone else’s kid spending more time on a bus, so all you’re saying here is that your child is more precious than anyone else’s. That doesn’t fly well with the people who need to balance everyone’s interests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just a few points of the Nottingham analogy. First, Nottingham was facing complete dissolution of the school. Not a boundary change. ASF is complaining about boundary shifts. Second, Nottingham did make an effort not to trash other schools/families/children. And third, we did mock them pretty mercilessly (and appropriately) for their ridiculous petitions addressed to Beyer etc.
That said, the ASF drama is far more embarrassing to all of you. Parents, principal, the teacher who showed up and picked sides at the SB meeting. You are all ruining the reputation of what used to be considered a nice school. Ick.

Removing half the school is not far from dissolutions. Hardly just boundary shift.

DP. It is a boundary shift. ASFS is current a neighborhood school and is expected to remain a neighborhood school. Nottingham was proposed to change to an option school, and would no longer exist as a neighborhood school. These are different things. No one said Nottingham was dissolved when Discovery opened and Nottingham lost almost 40% of its student population, because that would have been absurd.

Didn't the Nottingham principal disappear? Why was the ASF principal allowed to take sides in the process?

Nottingham's principal went on leave before Nottingham was first identified as a potential option site, and her leave had nothing to do with the location review. The acting principal was included in the location review process to provide information and insight into Nottingham-specific considerations. This was actually a source of significant concern among Nottingham parents, that the school was being represented by someone who had only been there a couple of weeks rather than someone with long-term experience with the school. Connie Skelton was great, though, she took a lot of time to attend the PTA meetings, talk to school staff and parents, etc., to understand everything as best she could before going into meetings with the APS staff.

Connie did a really outstanding job during a tumultuous time for the school. I know it was never a possibility, but I wish she could have stayed on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just a few points of the Nottingham analogy. First, Nottingham was facing complete dissolution of the school. Not a boundary change. ASF is complaining about boundary shifts. Second, Nottingham did make an effort not to trash other schools/families/children. And third, we did mock them pretty mercilessly (and appropriately) for their ridiculous petitions addressed to Beyer etc.
That said, the ASF drama is far more embarrassing to all of you. Parents, principal, the teacher who showed up and picked sides at the SB meeting. You are all ruining the reputation of what used to be considered a nice school. Ick.

Removing half the school is not far from dissolutions. Hardly just boundary shift.

DP. It is a boundary shift. ASFS is current a neighborhood school and is expected to remain a neighborhood school. Nottingham was proposed to change to an option school, and would no longer exist as a neighborhood school. These are different things. No one said Nottingham was dissolved when Discovery opened and Nottingham lost almost 40% of its student population, because that would have been absurd.

Build a brand new school closer to Rosslyn which won’t require 45 min bus rides and you won’t have complaints. Throw in a slide for the win.

Maybe they'll consider that for the new school to be built for 2029. Still doesn't make the current redrawing a dissolution, though, you're being ridiculously dramatic here.

My kids spending 5 hrs more a week on a bus b/c some parents feel it is their right to take over a school does not seem ridiculous. And again, dislocation if half a school is more than a boundary shift, get real.

where did you think you were going that would have added more than an hour a day to your bus ride?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just a few points of the Nottingham analogy. First, Nottingham was facing complete dissolution of the school. Not a boundary change. ASF is complaining about boundary shifts. Second, Nottingham did make an effort not to trash other schools/families/children. And third, we did mock them pretty mercilessly (and appropriately) for their ridiculous petitions addressed to Beyer etc.
That said, the ASF drama is far more embarrassing to all of you. Parents, principal, the teacher who showed up and picked sides at the SB meeting. You are all ruining the reputation of what used to be considered a nice school. Ick.

Removing half the school is not far from dissolutions. Hardly just boundary shift.

DP. It is a boundary shift. ASFS is current a neighborhood school and is expected to remain a neighborhood school. Nottingham was proposed to change to an option school, and would no longer exist as a neighborhood school. These are different things. No one said Nottingham was dissolved when Discovery opened and Nottingham lost almost 40% of its student population, because that would have been absurd.

Build a brand new school closer to Rosslyn which won’t require 45 min bus rides and you won’t have complaints. Throw in a slide for the win.

Maybe they'll consider that for the new school to be built for 2029. Still doesn't make the current redrawing a dissolution, though, you're being ridiculously dramatic here.

My kids spending 5 hrs more a week on a bus b/c some parents feel it is their right to take over a school does not seem ridiculous. And again, dislocation if half a school is more than a boundary shift, get real.

You don’t even know that it will half the school so, again, you’re being ridiculously dramatic. And your kid spending less time on a bus probably comes at the expense of someone else’s kid spending more time on a bus, so all you’re saying here is that your child is more precious than anyone else’s. That doesn’t fly well with the people who need to balance everyone’s interests.

Cherrydale to Taylor is about 30 minutes closer than Rosslyn to Taylor, so try again.

[Anonymous]

Hmmm, I live in Cherrydale close to ASFS and it takes 8 minutes to get to Taylor in morning rush hour traffic and approximately 5 minutes to get home after school. I guess traveling by school bus adds all those extra minutes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hmmm, I live in Cherrydale close to ASFS and it takes 8 minutes to get to Taylor in morning rush hour traffic and approximately 5 minutes to get home after school. I guess traveling by school bus adds all those extra minutes.

Well yeah. Cherrydale is much closer and faster than Rosslyn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hmmm, I live in Cherrydale close to ASFS and it takes 8 minutes to get to Taylor in morning rush hour traffic and approximately 5 minutes to get home after school. I guess traveling by school bus adds all those extra minutes.

Well yeah. Cherrydale is much closer and faster than Rosslyn.

Well yeah, but if your kid is being bussed to ASFS from Rosslyn, it would only add less than 10 minutes in the morning to continue to Taylor and less than 5 minutes in the afternoon. Not an extra five hours a week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hmmm, I live in Cherrydale close to ASFS and it takes 8 minutes to get to Taylor in morning rush hour traffic and approximately 5 minutes to get home after school. I guess traveling by school bus adds all those extra minutes.

Well yeah. Cherrydale is much closer and faster than Rosslyn.

Well yeah, but if your kid is being bussed to ASFS from Rosslyn, it would only add less than 10 minutes in the morning to continue to Taylor and less than 5 minutes in the afternoon. Not an extra five hours a week.

They are both far away. That’s why the real solution is a neighborhood school at Key. Could work on the issue of getting native Spanish speakers into the program and breaking up concentrated poverty at Carlin Springa at the same time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hmmm, I live in Cherrydale close to ASFS and it takes 8 minutes to get to Taylor in morning rush hour traffic and approximately 5 minutes to get home after school. I guess traveling by school bus adds all those extra minutes.

Well yeah. Cherrydale is much closer and faster than Rosslyn.

Well yeah, but if your kid is being bussed to ASFS from Rosslyn, it would only add less than 10 minutes in the morning to continue to Taylor and less than 5 minutes in the afternoon. Not an extra five hours a week.

Have you ever been on a bus? Much slower than car.

[Anonymous]

Interesting how many folks are concerned about adding onto their child’s commute (or theirs) when they chose to live in an area where they found their neighborhood/closest school unacceptable. Why was proximity not a high priority before? And why is Long Branch so unacceptable? Although Taylor would undoubtedly add to a commute from Rosslyn, Long Branch shouldn’t (or even be closer).