Murch moving to lafayette

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dear Patrick Donovan (from the Post article):

Please come by Murch to see how dangerous drop off time is considering Murch is located ON a commuter route. Lots of kids get to cross Reno, Nebraska and Connecticut to get to Murch which is located on a a cut through street for kids heading to Deal and Wilson. Not to mention the commuters who think the Davenport and 36th street stop sign is optional.

Your quote makes you sound a bit---well mean and uninformed. Perhaps you were misquoted because our kids would be safer at Lafayette. Not saying that is the right option but definitely a safer option then even the current situation.

This issue he was speaking about is that with all the traffic in the very small drop off area and the number of walkers there have been several, very clear near misses where cars have almost run over kids. Our principal is distressed about it and has sent home many notes and made robocalls. The tiny nature of the roads invites kids to scramble across and because of the tight space cars are back up, pulling 3-point turns and all sorts of unsafe behaviors. At the moment many of the teacher aids now act as crossing guards in the morning, just trying to shepherd the kids to their classes without being killed. Our issues are different than yours, in that our roads are not the fact moving traffic veins of Reno and Conn., but the situation is really bad. Adding 3x the cars to this scene is terrifying.

You chose to live in a city. What did you expect?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Given the strength of the opinions here, the clear lack of leadership at DCPS and DGS to move effectively and make quality decisions, the turmoil this is causing in two communities, one has to wonder:

WHERE IS THE LEADERSHIP IN THIS CITY?

This is exactly the kind of problem Mayors and City Council members are elected to head off, resolve or take the bureaucracy task for the dismal job they are doing.

This is not the fault of Much parents, Lafayette parents, or failure by any citizen to support a previous policy decision, etc.

It is the absolute failure of the City government to conduct its business in a reasonable and fair way, being open and transparent, having a identified and shared criteria for decision making and keeping the public informed in a timely fashion.

DC's top officials have some explaining to do.

We've all been "Bowsered."

It's "Lafayette for all"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dear Patrick Donovan (from the Post article):

Please come by Murch to see how dangerous drop off time is considering Murch is located ON a commuter route. Lots of kids get to cross Reno, Nebraska and Connecticut to get to Murch which is located on a a cut through street for kids heading to Deal and Wilson. Not to mention the commuters who think the Davenport and 36th street stop sign is optional.

Your quote makes you sound a bit---well mean and uninformed. Perhaps you were misquoted because our kids would be safer at Lafayette. Not saying that is the right option but definitely a safer option then even the current situation.

This issue he was speaking about is that with all the traffic in the very small drop off area and the number of walkers there have been several, very clear near misses where cars have almost run over kids. Our principal is distressed about it and has sent home many notes and made robocalls. The tiny nature of the roads invites kids to scramble across and because of the tight space cars are back up, pulling 3-point turns and all sorts of unsafe behaviors. At the moment many of the teacher aids now act as crossing guards in the morning, just trying to shepherd the kids to their classes without being killed. Our issues are different than yours, in that our roads are not the fact moving traffic veins of Reno and Conn., but the situation is really bad. Adding 3x the cars to this scene is terrifying.

I read your response and thought you were talking about Murch. We have teachers acting as crossing guards too, especially at 36th and Ellicott. We have tight streets and near misses too. So, I completely understand and share your concerns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we have to stop trying to help the PP understand Murch boundaries and head count. Nothing will help PP understand.

I think that the Murch community needs to understand if DCPS intends it to be primarily a neighborhood-oriented elementary school or a larger school to serve demand from across the city. Even while they have proposed shrinking the boundaries, DCPS has not suggested shrinking the enrollment cap (in fact, the opposite).

I'm not aware that any public school has an enrollment cap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dear Patrick Donovan (from the Post article):

Please come by Murch to see how dangerous drop off time is considering Murch is located ON a commuter route. Lots of kids get to cross Reno, Nebraska and Connecticut to get to Murch which is located on a a cut through street for kids heading to Deal and Wilson. Not to mention the commuters who think the Davenport and 36th street stop sign is optional.

Your quote makes you sound a bit---well mean and uninformed. Perhaps you were misquoted because our kids would be safer at Lafayette. Not saying that is the right option but definitely a safer option then even the current situation.

This issue he was speaking about is that with all the traffic in the very small drop off area and the number of walkers there have been several, very clear near misses where cars have almost run over kids. Our principal is distressed about it and has sent home many notes and made robocalls. The tiny nature of the roads invites kids to scramble across and because of the tight space cars are back up, pulling 3-point turns and all sorts of unsafe behaviors. At the moment many of the teacher aids now act as crossing guards in the morning, just trying to shepherd the kids to their classes without being killed. Our issues are different than yours, in that our roads are not the fact moving traffic veins of Reno and Conn., but the situation is really bad. Adding 3x the cars to this scene is terrifying.

I read your response and thought you were talking about Murch. We have teachers acting as crossing guards too, especially at 36th and Ellicott. We have tight streets and near misses too. So, I completely understand and share your concerns.

By Murch there are almost 4,000 students students trying to get to school at the same time in about a 10 block radius. Even if only 1/2 arrive by car the area around Murch/Deal/Wilson is a shit ton more congested than by Lafayette. Add in the idiot commuters who try to cut between Connecticut and Reno when one is back up and it makes Lafayette drop off look like a......school on a non-commuter route surrounded by houses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dear Patrick Donovan (from the Post article):

Please come by Murch to see how dangerous drop off time is considering Murch is located ON a commuter route. Lots of kids get to cross Reno, Nebraska and Connecticut to get to Murch which is located on a a cut through street for kids heading to Deal and Wilson. Not to mention the commuters who think the Davenport and 36th street stop sign is optional.

Your quote makes you sound a bit---well mean and uninformed. Perhaps you were misquoted because our kids would be safer at Lafayette. Not saying that is the right option but definitely a safer option then even the current situation.

This issue he was speaking about is that with all the traffic in the very small drop off area and the number of walkers there have been several, very clear near misses where cars have almost run over kids. Our principal is distressed about it and has sent home many notes and made robocalls. The tiny nature of the roads invites kids to scramble across and because of the tight space cars are back up, pulling 3-point turns and all sorts of unsafe behaviors. At the moment many of the teacher aids now act as crossing guards in the morning, just trying to shepherd the kids to their classes without being killed. Our issues are different than yours, in that our roads are not the fact moving traffic veins of Reno and Conn., but the situation is really bad. Adding 3x the cars to this scene is terrifying.

I read your response and thought you were talking about Murch. We have teachers acting as crossing guards too, especially at 36th and Ellicott. We have tight streets and near misses too. So, I completely understand and share your concerns.

By Murch there are almost 4,000 students students trying to get to school at the same time in about a 10 block radius. Even if only 1/2 arrive by car the area around Murch/Deal/Wilson is a shit ton more congested than by Lafayette. Add in the idiot commuters who try to cut between Connecticut and Reno when one is back up and it makes Lafayette drop off look like a......school on a non-commuter route surrounded by houses.

And you share the small Ellicott St. drop off zone with two nursery schools who drop off in the same spot at the same time (in the more complicated way that toddler car seats require).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we have to stop trying to help the PP understand Murch boundaries and head count. Nothing will help PP understand.

I think that the Murch community needs to understand if DCPS intends it to be primarily a neighborhood-oriented elementary school or a larger school to serve demand from across the city. Even while they have proposed shrinking the boundaries, DCPS has not suggested shrinking the enrollment cap (in fact, the opposite).

I'm not aware that any public school has an enrollment cap.

Ultimately there's the fire code. While in theory they can't turn away an IB student, they can certainly throttle back OOB. Of course, it's clear that's unlikely to happen because when Bowser said "Alice Deal for all", she apparently meant it

[Anonymous]

What is the fire code limit for Deal and Wilson?

Or even Murch?

[Anonymous]

Any news on this decision?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any news on this decision?

Last I heard DCPS will make the decision on the swing space in mid January.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any news on this decision?

Last I heard DCPS will make the decision on the swing space in mid January.

Why should Murch and Lafayette parents be so self-centered so as to deny DCPS the opportunity to save some money, which could used instead in some poor parts of DC? Is a longer commute or more traffic too much of a sacrifice for ONE CITY?!?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dear Patrick Donovan (from the Post article):

Please come by Murch to see how dangerous drop off time is considering Murch is located ON a commuter route. Lots of kids get to cross Reno, Nebraska and Connecticut to get to Murch which is located on a a cut through street for kids heading to Deal and Wilson. Not to mention the commuters who think the Davenport and 36th street stop sign is optional.

Your quote makes you sound a bit---well mean and uninformed. Perhaps you were misquoted because our kids would be safer at Lafayette. Not saying that is the right option but definitely a safer option then even the current situation.

This issue he was speaking about is that with all the traffic in the very small drop off area and the number of walkers there have been several, very clear near misses where cars have almost run over kids. Our principal is distressed about it and has sent home many notes and made robocalls. The tiny nature of the roads invites kids to scramble across and because of the tight space cars are back up, pulling 3-point turns and all sorts of unsafe behaviors. At the moment many of the teacher aids now act as crossing guards in the morning, just trying to shepherd the kids to their classes without being killed. Our issues are different than yours, in that our roads are not the fact moving traffic veins of Reno and Conn., but the situation is really bad. Adding 3x the cars to this scene is terrifying.

I read your response and thought you were talking about Murch. We have teachers acting as crossing guards too, especially at 36th and Ellicott. We have tight streets and near misses too. So, I completely understand and share your concerns.

By Murch there are almost 4,000 students students trying to get to school at the same time in about a 10 block radius. Even if only 1/2 arrive by car the area around Murch/Deal/Wilson is a shit ton more congested than by Lafayette. Add in the idiot commuters who try to cut between Connecticut and Reno when one is back up and it makes Lafayette drop off look like a......school on a non-commuter route surrounded by houses.

Spoken like someone who has never seen Lafayette drop-off and pick-up. There are extremely narrow streets that are also used by commuters going to/from Military Road, Utah Ave., and CT. Ave. The street on which the front entrance of Lafayette will sit is a busy commuter route.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any news on this decision?

Last I heard DCPS will make the decision on the swing space in mid January.

Why should Murch and Lafayette parents be so self-centered so as to deny DCPS the opportunity to save some money, which could used instead in some poor parts of DC? Is a longer commute or more traffic too much of a sacrifice for ONE CITY?!?!

No one is saying cost should not be a factor. Per DGS, using Lafayette is about the same cost as their other options. That was said *before* the cost of bussing students and rehabilitation of the park is considered so it is very likely Lafayette will turn out to be a more expensive option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Why should Murch and Lafayette parents be so self-centered so as to deny DCPS the opportunity to save some money, which could used instead in some poor parts of DC? Is a longer commute or more traffic too much of a sacrifice for ONE CITY?!?!

This, This, 1000 times, this. You all sound like the brat kids who live next door.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Spoken like someone who has never seen Lafayette drop-off and pick-up. There are extremely narrow streets that are also used by commuters going to/from Military Road, Utah Ave., and CT. Ave. The street on which the front entrance of Lafayette will sit is a busy commuter route.

The streets are no wider or narrower than any other residential streets in the city. They are not "extremely narrow" and they are public space, to be used by commuters, school kids and the local residents. If you want to wall it off, move to a gated community in Potomac.