Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hijackers collected all the phones, forced the pilots to turn around, head towards someplace like Pakistan, but plan ran out of fuel and ditched into the ocean.

This explains the fact that it turned around and the transponder being turned off.

I'm pretty sure we're at the point where people are just putting random made-up stories out there, just to test the waters for TV and movie plots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

"Summary: It’s plausible that a fuselage section near the SATCOM antenna adapter failed, disabling satellite based - GPS, ACARS, and ADS-B/C - communications, and leading to a slow decompression that left all occupants unconscious. If such decompression left the aircraft intact, then the autopilot would have flown the planned route or otherwise maintained its heading/altitude until fuel exhaustion.
A slow decompression (e.g. from a golfball-sized hole) would have gradually impaired and confused the pilots before cabin altitude (pressure) warnings sounded."

Wasn't this the plot of Stephen King's Four Past Midnight?

[Anonymous]

What about the pilot flying to a remote location and parachuting out? Taking a stash of whatever illegal item was in the cargo hold. Plane crashed off the Indian Ocean post jump.

Or

The plane landed on some remote abandoned island and the pilot planned the disappearance in conjunction with a terrorist group. The passengers would be hostages. This explains the awkward reporting to comply with terrorist demands.

[Anonymous]

Guys, how do you think a very large plane would safely land or take off without a runway? Planes don't land straight up and down like a UFO - they need rather long runways. You guys have been watching too much 24, Scandal, Homeland, or whatever.



I know a 777 pilot and he says that the plane is able to land a dirt "runway" if need be. Essentially, find a big opening in some trees.

Sure..the plane lands at 157 mph, hit one hole or tree and see all the people die.

[Anonymous]

I just don't think it can be the Payne Stewart story just because the transponder was turned off.

How's this? Plane over area where cells don't work.

Pilot or copilot (or other hijacker after overpowering pilot) locks cabin, turns off transponder and any wifi, puts on oxygen masks and cuts the oxygen so the passengers/crew dies.

That way no one can use their cellphone even when they are back into cell range.

They want the plane and/or cargo on the plane, not the passengers. They fly somewhere to an airstrip which is easy to hide afterwards, as is the plane.

Other scenario is botched hijack attempt, so transponder is turned off but then oxygen cut and everyone including hijackers dies and plane flies off in Payne Stewart situation.

Or, similar scenario but hijackers have the oxygen masks on but don't make it to the airstrip and plane ends up going into the ocean.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My boyfriend seems to think that terrorists have stolen and hidden the plane from satellite (under tent cover or something) and will try and use it like 9/11 style.

But where could they have landed something that large undetected? And furthermore, how will they refuel such a large aircraft in this hidden place?

And how would you explain the cell phones just ringing and then going dead? I mean if the people were still alive, someone would have found a way to call out, right?

This issue of the phantom rings has been addressed in several articles. Basically, when a call is sent, it must connect to the other line before it truly goes through; sometimes this happens instantaneously, but other times, it takes a few seconds. You've probably experienced a 5 or so second delay for a call to "take off" right? Well, while it's trying to connect, it is up to the carrier how to handle that dead time. Some carriers have silence, some ring, and I suppose there are other things that happen. If they choose to have a ring, the call-placer will hear it and assume it is a ring while the call is connected, but in fact it can be a ring while the call is searching.

In these cases, what 99.999999% happened is that the phone rang while trying to connect but wasn't truly ringing on the other end. When it didn't connect, it went to VM or disconnected.

I realize some people said it picked up and hung up, but I would venture to guess this is a hopeful and unfortunate mis-read on their part, while the "rings" are real but one-sided.

[Anonymous]

You would need a huge runway to land a Boeing 777. It's kinda hard to hide this plane!

[Anonymous]

They're now saying the data came through intermittently.

[Anonymous]

http://abcnews.go.com/International/us-officials-malaysia-airline-crashed-indian-ocean/story?id=22894802

"Two U.S. officials tell ABC News the U.S. believes that the shutdown of two communication systems happened separately on Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. One source said this indicates the plane did not come out of the sky because of a catastrophic failure.

The data reporting system, they believe, was shut down at 1:07 a.m. The transponder -- which transmits location and altitude -- shut down at 1:21 a.m."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I am thinking this was just another Payne Stewart type incident.

Something caused sudden decompression in the plane and everyone passed out within a few seconds, followed by death from lack of oxygen and hypothermia a few minutes later.

Modern planes have safety features that would allow this plane to keep going even if all the corpses on board were no longer at the controls.


+1 My guess is this happened. This would explain why the plane flew on for four hours, although I'm not sure if it explains why contact was cut off -- does the pilot have to maintain contact from the plane, or does that happen automatically? Would the pilot have had to turn the transponders (whatever those are) off manually in order for the plane to lose contact? Would decompression have caused contact to be cut off?

It's also possible that a bomb caused decompression in the plane, followed by the scenario outlined above.

I doubt very much all those passengers are alive and well and being held hostage somewhere! It's a hopeful thought, but not a very likely one.


Why did it turn left over the ocean?

The left turn could be a lot of other things and not the plane turning. As you approach the effective limits if the radar, the returns are less reliable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about the pilot flying to a remote location and parachuting out? Taking a stash of whatever illegal item was in the cargo hold. Plane crashed off the Indian Ocean post jump.

Or

The plane landed on some remote abandoned island and the pilot planned the disappearance in conjunction with a terrorist group. The passengers would be hostages. This explains the awkward reporting to comply with terrorist demands.

I don't think you can open the cabin doors while in flight post DB Cooper.

[Anonymous]

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It would be really stupid of the Chinese government to shoot down an aircraft that's mostly occupied by their own citizens.

An unidentified aircraft not responding to the radio enters Chinese air space will be shot down....just like the US would shoot it down

The US would deploy the military aircraft to investigate and guide/tail the plane. We do not shoot first and ask later, despite what you might believe.

Probably depends on how fast they can get up there and check it out. If it were a situation where they couldn't confirm and the plane appeared to be heading to a heavily populated area, they might shoot it down. Thank goodness it has not happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You would need a huge runway to land a Boeing 777. It's kinda hard to hide this plane!

There are huge runways all over the world -- they are called "roads" It is not an airport. People land planes all over the world outside of airports. Yes, it is a big plane, but many roads and fields are also big. Its a big world out there. 7000 ft = 1.5 miles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would need a huge runway to land a Boeing 777. It's kinda hard to hide this plane!

There are huge runways all over the world -- they are called "roads" It is not an airport. People land planes all over the world outside of airports. Yes, it is a big plane, but many roads and fields are also big. Its a big world out there. 7000 ft = 1.5 miles.

Where are roads?

Roads are made where people are. If this was landed on a road, someone would have seen it (even if it was covered up by 50 tarps), or it would have pinged on land - because it landed where there are facets of civilization.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hijackers collected all the phones, forced the pilots to turn around, head towards someplace like Pakistan, but plan ran out of fuel and ditched into the ocean.

This explains the fact that it turned around and the transponder being turned off.

What evidence is this based on?

People are really just making wild crap up out of their imagination.

Are you saying that hijacking is not real? It is like aliens? Hijacking is very real, and a real possibility.