War with Iran Part II

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Anonymous wrote:So it looks like USA has to put pressure on Israel to stop bombing in order to open the Strait. This should be interesting.
I’m all for it. As long as Bibi is in control, we have to cut off Israel.

If you look at today's war footage from Beirut, it is very clear Israel is continuing with their mayhem. A lot of innocent people died today. But markets are up, so whatever. Maybe I was a little innocent before, but it is shocking how much power Israel has over the US. It's a midget county with no strategic relevance whatsoever, and we are spending billions and billions being their hired help and fighting their dumb wars. But I think Israel has sensed that both Democrats and Republicans have had enough of their crap, so they are going all in while a boomer tool like Trump is still in power. There will be no peace until a new administration cuts them off from all the weapons we send them. Israelis will continue to send it until that happens.

That "midget" country punches *way* above its weight and provides the U.S. with crucial intelligence and power in a complicated region. You can dislike its current government, and even Jews in general if you lean that way, but let's not pretend that nation is irrelevant.

Israel is not strategically relevant. It's not the Cold War era. Israel has an advanced economy and are useful in tech. But so is Romania and a lot of other countries. Israel has no oil. No Rare Earths. It's not a source of grain like Ukraine is. It doesn't control any shipping routes like Iran, and Panama and Egypt and Malaysia. It doesn't have an important semi-conductor facility like Taiwan does. Israel is completely irrelevant in 2026. And so asking why are we spending billions and billions and supporting Israel's belligerence is a very relevant question.

I'm a DP, but the PP is correct that Israel has cutting-edge technology and intelligence that it shares with the U.S. You can hate the country as much as you want, but there's no denying they're a HUGE player in the intelligence and tech community.

Just stop. It is the reverse. The US allows Israel access to our resources including technology and intelligence. Everything the Israelis do is a direct result of research in the US or from US signals intelligence. The US tech sector is worth $3 trillion. Israel tech sector worth is $100 billion but a lot of that is just US companies with satellite campuses.

Israel contributes nothing to the US.

As someone who works within the IC, you have no idea what you're talking about.

As someone who dangles modifiers, we have no idea what you're talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this war exposed Iran , it uses terror and closes off oil supplies . The world should not stand for it. Imagine if other countries shot missiles and bombs and closed down international waterways. No one should tolerate this from any country let alone a terrorist nation of Iran .

Well, they were being bombed by 2 different countries. If America was Iran, why would we not use the tools at our disposal to get the bombing to stop? We are never going to achieve peace if we can’t understand any side but our own.

Why would we want to achieve peace? All of USA's wealth is rooted in war.

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Iran’s Ambassador to Pakistan appears to have deleted a post on X that said his country’s delegation would arrive in Islamabad on Thursday night

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At this point, we'd have a much better chance of ending this war by bombing Israel than Iran.

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UK, Australia, and France say no cease fire without Lebanon

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Anonymous wrote:So it looks like USA has to put pressure on Israel to stop bombing in order to open the Strait. This should be interesting.
I’m all for it. As long as Bibi is in control, we have to cut off Israel.

If you look at today's war footage from Beirut, it is very clear Israel is continuing with their mayhem. A lot of innocent people died today. But markets are up, so whatever. Maybe I was a little innocent before, but it is shocking how much power Israel has over the US. It's a midget county with no strategic relevance whatsoever, and we are spending billions and billions being their hired help and fighting their dumb wars. But I think Israel has sensed that both Democrats and Republicans have had enough of their crap, so they are going all in while a boomer tool like Trump is still in power. There will be no peace until a new administration cuts them off from all the weapons we send them. Israelis will continue to send it until that happens.

That "midget" country punches *way* above its weight and provides the U.S. with crucial intelligence and power in a complicated region. You can dislike its current government, and even Jews in general if you lean that way, but let's not pretend that nation is irrelevant.

Israel is not strategically relevant. It's not the Cold War era. Israel has an advanced economy and are useful in tech. But so is Romania and a lot of other countries. Israel has no oil. No Rare Earths. It's not a source of grain like Ukraine is. It doesn't control any shipping routes like Iran, and Panama and Egypt and Malaysia. It doesn't have an important semi-conductor facility like Taiwan does. Israel is completely irrelevant in 2026. And so asking why are we spending billions and billions and supporting Israel's belligerence is a very relevant question.

I'm a DP, but the PP is correct that Israel has cutting-edge technology and intelligence that it shares with the U.S. You can hate the country as much as you want, but there's no denying they're a HUGE player in the intelligence and tech community.

Just stop. It is the reverse. The US allows Israel access to our resources including technology and intelligence. Everything the Israelis do is a direct result of research in the US or from US signals intelligence. The US tech sector is worth $3 trillion. Israel tech sector worth is $100 billion but a lot of that is just US companies with satellite campuses.

Israel contributes nothing to the US.

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Anonymous wrote:UK, Australia, and France say no cease fire without Lebanon

Obviously. Trump AGREED to it and is now backtracking beciwsr Israel won’t allow him to. This is the tail wagging the dog.

It is clear as day they have something on him. Global economy be damned.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this war exposed Iran , it uses terror and closes off oil supplies . The world should not stand for it. Imagine if other countries shot missiles and bombs and closed down international waterways. No one should tolerate this from any country let alone a terrorist nation of Iran .

This is rich, and so full of BS. Let me send a bunch of thugs to your house and wipe out your family, including your girls, as the US/Israel did to Iran. Now, based on your weak statement, you are obliged to do nothing. No fighting back. No getting even. And you are most absolutely not supposed to retaliate against your next-door neighbor who allowed the attackers to plan and execute the killing of your family from their home.

Furthermore, the USA is one of the biggest terrorist countries in the 21st century. How many countries are dropping missiles on little boats in the Caribbean Ocean and then double-tapping survivors as they cling to the pieces of the blown-up boat? I notice that the USA only picks on little countries that they expect little fight back. We seriously underestimated Iran. Iran may very well lose in the long run, but in the meantime, it is giving us, the USA, a bloody face and broken arms.

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Anonymous wrote:macron needs to stop bleating about Lebanon and put boots on the ground in Beirut or Paris will be renamed Beirut.

There wouldn't be so many middle eastern refugees is the different wars over the last decades were not in play.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you remember how Netanyahu strode into DC and defied President Obama when JCPOA was going on and spoke to Congress.

Netanyahu received multiple standing ovations. Do my fellow Americans really have such short memories?!

I, too, remember.

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JD Vance: "I think this comes from a legitimate misunderstanding. I think the Iranians thought the ceasefire included Lebanon, and it just didn't. We never made that promise, we never indicated that was gonna be the case."

Lebanon was literally in the 10 point plan that the US agreed to. It is hard to understand if they are stupid, if they think we are stupid, if that are just that callous, or all of the above.

The US isn't bombing Lebanon. Israel is. Seems to me that Iran needs to be prosecuting a deal with Israel.

Just so we are clear: you are saying we should leave Israel high and dry?

Israel has repeatedly tried to sabotage any effort at peace. How many times have they assasinated negotiators in the midst of negotiations? 3 or 4?

They knew what the terms were and willfully violated them. Their continued blood lust is harming us. They're more instransigent and expansionist than Iran is. Let that sink in.

Do you have a better idea?

+1 Israel and Netanyahu specifically continue to benefit politically from this war while no one else does. If they can’t agree to stop bombing they are the problem.

Trump and his sons are benefiting Bigly. The way he has manipulated the market and nobody is calling it out is disgraceful. Barron played the polymarkets and reportedly got 11 figures betting and trading on the war. Don Jr and Erik were in the Middle East trying to sell their drones and weapons from their new defense company. While negotiating on behalf of the USA, Jared was as trying to get the Saudi and Emiratis to invest another 6 billion dollars in his firm. So the Trumps are definitely winning in this war, at least financially.

You really need to stop spreading unverified rumors you pick up from your social media.

Sure Shirley. Keep your head in the sand.

Idiot.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2026/03/09/barron-trump-buy-oil/

ARSEWIPE. Stop defending the indefensible.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-family-drone-investment
https://www.reuters.com/business/polymarket-secures-investment-trump-jr-backed-1789-capital-2025-08-26/
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-jr-reportedly-investing-203022344.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall

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Anonymous wrote:So it looks like USA has to put pressure on Israel to stop bombing in order to open the Strait. This should be interesting.
I’m all for it. As long as Bibi is in control, we have to cut off Israel.

If you look at today's war footage from Beirut, it is very clear Israel is continuing with their mayhem. A lot of innocent people died today. But markets are up, so whatever. Maybe I was a little innocent before, but it is shocking how much power Israel has over the US. It's a midget county with no strategic relevance whatsoever, and we are spending billions and billions being their hired help and fighting their dumb wars. But I think Israel has sensed that both Democrats and Republicans have had enough of their crap, so they are going all in while a boomer tool like Trump is still in power. There will be no peace until a new administration cuts them off from all the weapons we send them. Israelis will continue to send it until that happens.

That "midget" country punches *way* above its weight and provides the U.S. with crucial intelligence and power in a complicated region. You can dislike its current government, and even Jews in general if you lean that way, but let's not pretend that nation is irrelevant.

Israel is not strategically relevant. It's not the Cold War era. Israel has an advanced economy and are useful in tech. But so is Romania and a lot of other countries. Israel has no oil. No Rare Earths. It's not a source of grain like Ukraine is. It doesn't control any shipping routes like Iran, and Panama and Egypt and Malaysia. It doesn't have an important semi-conductor facility like Taiwan does. Israel is completely irrelevant in 2026. And so asking why are we spending billions and billions and supporting Israel's belligerence is a very relevant question.

I'm a DP, but the PP is correct that Israel has cutting-edge technology and intelligence that it shares with the U.S. You can hate the country as much as you want, but there's no denying they're a HUGE player in the intelligence and tech community.

Yes their intelligence is superb but they couldn’t figure out when a bunch of people on freaking gliders were going to attack.

And Egypt told them and they ignored it

No, No, No. Israel did not ignore the Egyptian intelligence. Israel allowed it to happen so that it could use it to justify Gaza's Final Solution. Remember, the IDF was mysteriously removed from this area of patrol, and Bibi already had his pre-canned lies, such as the beheading of babies to instigate mob mentality among the world against the Palestinians.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this war exposed Iran , it uses terror and closes off oil supplies . The world should not stand for it. Imagine if other countries shot missiles and bombs and closed down international waterways. No one should tolerate this from any country let alone a terrorist nation of Iran .

Well, they were being bombed by 2 different countries. If America was Iran, why would we not use the tools at our disposal to get the bombing to stop? We are never going to achieve peace if we can’t understand any side but our own.

Why would we want to achieve peace? All of USA's wealth is rooted in war.

It is not about peace it is about never ending war.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this war exposed Iran , it uses terror and closes off oil supplies . The world should not stand for it. Imagine if other countries shot missiles and bombs and closed down international waterways. No one should tolerate this from any country let alone a terrorist nation of Iran .

This is rich, and so full of BS. Let me send a bunch of thugs to your house and wipe out your family, including your girls, as the US/Israel did to Iran. Now, based on your weak statement, you are obliged to do nothing. No fighting back. No getting even. And you are most absolutely not supposed to retaliate against your next-door neighbor who allowed the attackers to plan and execute the killing of your family from their home.

Furthermore, the USA is one of the biggest terrorist countries in the 21st century. How many countries are dropping missiles on little boats in the Caribbean Ocean and then double-tapping survivors as they cling to the pieces of the blown-up boat? I notice that the USA only picks on little countries that they expect little fight back. We seriously underestimated Iran. Iran may very well lose in the long run, but in the meantime, it is giving us, the USA, a bloody face and broken arms.

We are currrntly starving Cuba. We are blockading Russian ships from bringing fuel and humanitarian aid to Cuba. The mainstream media isn’t even reporting this. Hundreds of Cubans have died from starvation and lack of medical care at hospitals

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Anonymous wrote:I think this war exposed Iran , it uses terror and closes off oil supplies . The world should not stand for it. Imagine if other countries shot missiles and bombs and closed down international waterways. No one should tolerate this from any country let alone a terrorist nation of Iran .

Well, they were being bombed by 2 different countries. If America was Iran, why would we not use the tools at our disposal to get the bombing to stop? We are never going to achieve peace if we can’t understand any side but our own.

Why would we want to achieve peace? All of USA's wealth is rooted in war.

That’s not true. Most of our debt and recessions are rooted in war .