Why are younger men so right wing?

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Anonymous wrote:The whole men-in-women’s-sports issue is a scare tactic. That’s it. This is so incredibly rare. As another poster stated, it should be handled locally on a case by case basis. I only hear republicans talking about this. The only time I hear Democrats talking about it, they are responding to a question. And their answer is basically that it is not a federal government issue. This should be left to families and doctors. Democrats ARE the party of small government, and we need to start claiming that title. Rs want the government up in everyone’s business.

Also, if Rs would stop looking at people’s genitals in locker rooms and restrooms, this would be much less of an issue for them. I have no clue how many times I have shared these spaces with trans people because I don’t stare at people’s genitals.

And yet you could remove this “scare tactic” by abandoning the ridiculous take take that biological males identifying as females have as much right to women’s spaces in sports and locker rooms as biological women, but choose not to.

I wonder if folks like you will ever realize what fools they’ve made of you, making a nearly non-existent problem into your complete identity, distracting you from the things that matter.

Ii might be the same people that were building bunkers for Y2K.

I’m the poster you’re responding to and this isn’t the only issue I care about. I may care more than most as the parent of a high level female athlete, but it is not my identity. I’m responding to you because I am incredulous that you (and another far leftists) still refuse to acknowledge how ridiculous it is to have thrown your full support behind allowing males identifying as women to take a place in women’s spaces. You’re deflecting left and right in this thread with “what about”, etc. but still refuse to acknowledge how misguided your support of this is.

DP. What you’re calling “not your identity” looks exactly like an identity because you treat this one statistically tiny, literally astronomically small issue as if it eclipses every other challenge facing kids today. When someone is so fixated on a problem that barely exists in the real world, dismisses all context, and waves away every larger, evidence‑based concern as a distraction, that’s not principled advocacy, that’s absolutely an identity‑level investment.

And that’s the irony here: you keep insisting this isn’t central to who you are, yet every post shows the opposite. You’re not engaging with scale, data, or proportionality. You’re not acknowledging that trans women in sports are a microscopic fraction of athletes, or that scholarship displacement is effectively zero, or that existing laws already cover misconduct in locker rooms. Instead, you’re treating this as a moral crusade that overrides everything else, even issues that actually DO affect millions of kids. That’s the very definition of an identity issue.

Dismissing everything else as “whataboutism” when everyone else is here legitimately pointing out that there are far bigger, real‑world threats to young people, such as mental health, guns, healthcare access, economic instability is frankly an insult. It just shows how deeply you’ve narrowed your worldview around this one topic. If you want to argue this isn’t your identity, the first step is engaging with the world beyond it. Right now, you’re proving the exact opposite and if anything you are completely failing women and young people by being so completely dismissive of these far bigger challenges and issues.

Amazing. You openly admitted to being unwilling to discuss a topic because other issues exist.

LMAO nope. We discussed and debated the topic and you lost.

Please do explain again how xx becomes xy.

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Anonymous wrote:More proof of the rape of Loudoun teens.

https://wjla.com/features/i-team/teen-suspect-found-guilty-in-loudoun-county-public-school-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-assault

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/11/virginia-governor-pardons-father-school-girl-sexually-assaulted

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/family-loudoun-county-sexual-assault-victim-sues-district-30m-students-rape-school-bathroom.amp

No one is saying this didn't happen. What they are saying is, this case is cited over and over as evidence of a widespread societal issue, when statistically, it isn't.

That is the difference: you care about statistics. I care about every single woman.

Do you care about the women in Loudoun county that were raped by anyone other than a trans person? Were there any? Probably not, right? I don’t think it ever happens.

It’s so telling how people like you are are entirely unable to stay on topic. Because you have no logical arguments to make.

It’s deflect deflect deflect with whataboutism in every single comment.

What about gun control?
What about women who are raped?
What about Epstein?
What about Trump being a bad guy?

Young Men are simply tired of having to pretend that humans can change their sex.

It's so telling that you commit one fraudulent fallacy after another, base rate neglect, refusal to acknowledge the far bigger and far more legitimate concerns of others and so on. Not to mention that the core of your whole argument about trans people being a threat to women hinges on a story about a Loudoun County kid who wasn't even trans to begin with. This isn't being dismissive, or minimizing legitimate concerns, it's about calling out your outright lies and bullshit.

I have not mentioned loudon.

My argument is evolution and biology. No xx will ever be xy.

Yes you did reference Loudoun, but now you're backing off of that to try and gesture around randomly after someone pointed out that was not trans and was wearing a skirt to be rebellious and non-conforming, rather than embracing trans identity. So now we're supposed to rely on some other non-specific "threats" given your central one is a bogus fabrication of right wing pundits.

And now this argument has shifted to "evolution, biology, xx vs xy," and this is a massive threat to women and young people how? You're moving the goalposts. That's a sign you lost the argument.

They are all related. Loudon is important because your position normalizes males and female segregated spaces.

Nope, it doesn't normalize anything. There are already laws about sexual assault and everything else that the boy did and he should have been held to those laws and you can't point to anywhere in this thread where I said otherwise because I never did say otherwise. I never advocated for any of those to go away, so your claim that I'm "normalizing" it falls flat. Not to mention the fact that he was not even trans to begin with. You're flailing, still clinging to a right wing myth about the kid.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole men-in-women’s-sports issue is a scare tactic. That’s it. This is so incredibly rare. As another poster stated, it should be handled locally on a case by case basis. I only hear republicans talking about this. The only time I hear Democrats talking about it, they are responding to a question. And their answer is basically that it is not a federal government issue. This should be left to families and doctors. Democrats ARE the party of small government, and we need to start claiming that title. Rs want the government up in everyone’s business.

Also, if Rs would stop looking at people’s genitals in locker rooms and restrooms, this would be much less of an issue for them. I have no clue how many times I have shared these spaces with trans people because I don’t stare at people’s genitals.

And yet you could remove this “scare tactic” by abandoning the ridiculous take take that biological males identifying as females have as much right to women’s spaces in sports and locker rooms as biological women, but choose not to.

I wonder if folks like you will ever realize what fools they’ve made of you, making a nearly non-existent problem into your complete identity, distracting you from the things that matter.

Ii might be the same people that were building bunkers for Y2K.

I’m the poster you’re responding to and this isn’t the only issue I care about. I may care more than most as the parent of a high level female athlete, but it is not my identity. I’m responding to you because I am incredulous that you (and another far leftists) still refuse to acknowledge how ridiculous it is to have thrown your full support behind allowing males identifying as women to take a place in women’s spaces. You’re deflecting left and right in this thread with “what about”, etc. but still refuse to acknowledge how misguided your support of this is.

DP. What you’re calling “not your identity” looks exactly like an identity because you treat this one statistically tiny, literally astronomically small issue as if it eclipses every other challenge facing kids today. When someone is so fixated on a problem that barely exists in the real world, dismisses all context, and waves away every larger, evidence‑based concern as a distraction, that’s not principled advocacy, that’s absolutely an identity‑level investment.

And that’s the irony here: you keep insisting this isn’t central to who you are, yet every post shows the opposite. You’re not engaging with scale, data, or proportionality. You’re not acknowledging that trans women in sports are a microscopic fraction of athletes, or that scholarship displacement is effectively zero, or that existing laws already cover misconduct in locker rooms. Instead, you’re treating this as a moral crusade that overrides everything else, even issues that actually DO affect millions of kids. That’s the very definition of an identity issue.

Dismissing everything else as “whataboutism” when everyone else is here legitimately pointing out that there are far bigger, real‑world threats to young people, such as mental health, guns, healthcare access, economic instability is frankly an insult. It just shows how deeply you’ve narrowed your worldview around this one topic. If you want to argue this isn’t your identity, the first step is engaging with the world beyond it. Right now, you’re proving the exact opposite and if anything you are completely failing women and young people by being so completely dismissive of these far bigger challenges and issues.

Amazing. You openly admitted to being unwilling to discuss a topic because other issues exist.

LMAO nope. We discussed and debated the topic and you lost.

Actually you lost. Supreme Court struck down your position as unconstitutional.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole men-in-women’s-sports issue is a scare tactic. That’s it. This is so incredibly rare. As another poster stated, it should be handled locally on a case by case basis. I only hear republicans talking about this. The only time I hear Democrats talking about it, they are responding to a question. And their answer is basically that it is not a federal government issue. This should be left to families and doctors. Democrats ARE the party of small government, and we need to start claiming that title. Rs want the government up in everyone’s business.

Also, if Rs would stop looking at people’s genitals in locker rooms and restrooms, this would be much less of an issue for them. I have no clue how many times I have shared these spaces with trans people because I don’t stare at people’s genitals.

And yet you could remove this “scare tactic” by abandoning the ridiculous take take that biological males identifying as females have as much right to women’s spaces in sports and locker rooms as biological women, but choose not to.

I wonder if folks like you will ever realize what fools they’ve made of you, making a nearly non-existent problem into your complete identity, distracting you from the things that matter.

Ii might be the same people that were building bunkers for Y2K.

I’m the poster you’re responding to and this isn’t the only issue I care about. I may care more than most as the parent of a high level female athlete, but it is not my identity. I’m responding to you because I am incredulous that you (and another far leftists) still refuse to acknowledge how ridiculous it is to have thrown your full support behind allowing males identifying as women to take a place in women’s spaces. You’re deflecting left and right in this thread with “what about”, etc. but still refuse to acknowledge how misguided your support of this is.

Can you cite exactly how many people we are talking about? Seriously, how many actual transitioning males to females are there at the high school level. Please show your work.

Let me give you one hint. In the COLLEGE level, out of over a half million athletes, there are only 10.
How many do you think there are in high school or younger?

Exactly, I have multiple kids that play multiple sports and it’s never been something that we’ve encountered, that we know of. These genitalia obsessed people are TERRIBLE at risk assessment.

They also don’t really even understand the public sentiment.

~90% of the public either supports (65%) protecting trans people from discrimination or has no opinion about it (25%), even as growing share say gender is determined by sex at birth. Feeling about sports participation gets more complex, but people understand that it’s so exceedingly rare that it’s not worth getting worked up over.


https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2022/06/28/americans-complex-views-on-gender-identity-and-transgender-issues/

That research doesn’t tell the story you claim it does. From the article:

A rising share say a person’s gender is determined by their sex at birth

About four-in-ten say society has gone too far in accepting trans people

About six-in-ten would favor requiring that transgender athletes compete on teams that match their sex at birth

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Anonymous wrote:More proof of the rape of Loudoun teens.

https://wjla.com/features/i-team/teen-suspect-found-guilty-in-loudoun-county-public-school-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-assault

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/11/virginia-governor-pardons-father-school-girl-sexually-assaulted

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/family-loudoun-county-sexual-assault-victim-sues-district-30m-students-rape-school-bathroom.amp

No one is saying this didn't happen. What they are saying is, this case is cited over and over as evidence of a widespread societal issue, when statistically, it isn't.

That is the difference: you care about statistics. I care about every single woman.

Do you care about the women in Loudoun county that were raped by anyone other than a trans person? Were there any? Probably not, right? I don’t think it ever happens.

It’s so telling how people like you are are entirely unable to stay on topic. Because you have no logical arguments to make.

It’s deflect deflect deflect with whataboutism in every single comment.

What about gun control?
What about women who are raped?
What about Epstein?
What about Trump being a bad guy?

Young Men are simply tired of having to pretend that humans can change their sex.

It's so telling that you commit one fraudulent fallacy after another, base rate neglect, refusal to acknowledge the far bigger and far more legitimate concerns of others and so on. Not to mention that the core of your whole argument about trans people being a threat to women hinges on a story about a Loudoun County kid who wasn't even trans to begin with. This isn't being dismissive, or minimizing legitimate concerns, it's about calling out your outright lies and bullshit.

I have not mentioned loudon.

My argument is evolution and biology. No xx will ever be xy.

You know not everyone is xx or xy, right? Pesky biology, making things hard.

Gender identity is not related to the tiny segment of the population that suffers from sex chromosome anomalies.

Again, unwillingness to stay on topic.

Because everyone knows xx can’t become xy and men can’t become women; so your argument is simply for abolishing protections for women.

Stay on topic?
Frankly I don't even see how your injection of your fringe hysteria about transwomen was ever on topic in the first place.

You're the one who's off topic. If you want to convince me otherwise then show some polling of young right wing males showing trans issues to be the top driver of why they are the way they are.

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Anonymous wrote:More proof of the rape of Loudoun teens.

https://wjla.com/features/i-team/teen-suspect-found-guilty-in-loudoun-county-public-school-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-assault

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/11/virginia-governor-pardons-father-school-girl-sexually-assaulted

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/family-loudoun-county-sexual-assault-victim-sues-district-30m-students-rape-school-bathroom.amp

No one is saying this didn't happen. What they are saying is, this case is cited over and over as evidence of a widespread societal issue, when statistically, it isn't.

That is the difference: you care about statistics. I care about every single woman.

Do you care about the women in Loudoun county that were raped by anyone other than a trans person? Were there any? Probably not, right? I don’t think it ever happens.

It’s so telling how people like you are are entirely unable to stay on topic. Because you have no logical arguments to make.

It’s deflect deflect deflect with whataboutism in every single comment.

What about gun control?
What about women who are raped?
What about Epstein?
What about Trump being a bad guy?

Young Men are simply tired of having to pretend that humans can change their sex.

It's so telling that you commit one fraudulent fallacy after another, base rate neglect, refusal to acknowledge the far bigger and far more legitimate concerns of others and so on. Not to mention that the core of your whole argument about trans people being a threat to women hinges on a story about a Loudoun County kid who wasn't even trans to begin with. This isn't being dismissive, or minimizing legitimate concerns, it's about calling out your outright lies and bullshit.

I have not mentioned loudon.

My argument is evolution and biology. No xx will ever be xy.

Yes you did reference Loudoun, but now you're backing off of that to try and gesture around randomly after someone pointed out that was not trans and was wearing a skirt to be rebellious and non-conforming, rather than embracing trans identity. So now we're supposed to rely on some other non-specific "threats" given your central one is a bogus fabrication of right wing pundits.

And now this argument has shifted to "evolution, biology, xx vs xy," and this is a massive threat to women and young people how? You're moving the goalposts. That's a sign you lost the argument.

They are all related. Loudon is important because your position normalizes males and female segregated spaces.

Nope, it doesn't normalize anything. There are already laws about sexual assault and everything else that the boy did and he should have been held to those laws and you can't point to anywhere in this thread where I said otherwise because I never did say otherwise. I never advocated for any of those to go away, so your claim that I'm "normalizing" it falls flat. Not to mention the fact that he was not even trans to begin with. You're flailing, still clinging to a right wing myth about the kid.

Your position is fighting to allow males in female spaces.

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Anonymous wrote:More proof of the rape of Loudoun teens.

https://wjla.com/features/i-team/teen-suspect-found-guilty-in-loudoun-county-public-school-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-assault

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/11/virginia-governor-pardons-father-school-girl-sexually-assaulted

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/family-loudoun-county-sexual-assault-victim-sues-district-30m-students-rape-school-bathroom.amp

No one is saying this didn't happen. What they are saying is, this case is cited over and over as evidence of a widespread societal issue, when statistically, it isn't.

That is the difference: you care about statistics. I care about every single woman.

Do you care about the women in Loudoun county that were raped by anyone other than a trans person? Were there any? Probably not, right? I don’t think it ever happens.

It’s so telling how people like you are are entirely unable to stay on topic. Because you have no logical arguments to make.

It’s deflect deflect deflect with whataboutism in every single comment.

What about gun control?
What about women who are raped?
What about Epstein?
What about Trump being a bad guy?

Young Men are simply tired of having to pretend that humans can change their sex.

It's so telling that you commit one fraudulent fallacy after another, base rate neglect, refusal to acknowledge the far bigger and far more legitimate concerns of others and so on. Not to mention that the core of your whole argument about trans people being a threat to women hinges on a story about a Loudoun County kid who wasn't even trans to begin with. This isn't being dismissive, or minimizing legitimate concerns, it's about calling out your outright lies and bullshit.

I have not mentioned loudon.

My argument is evolution and biology. No xx will ever be xy.

Yes you did reference Loudoun, but now you're backing off of that to try and gesture around randomly after someone pointed out that was not trans and was wearing a skirt to be rebellious and non-conforming, rather than embracing trans identity. So now we're supposed to rely on some other non-specific "threats" given your central one is a bogus fabrication of right wing pundits.

And now this argument has shifted to "evolution, biology, xx vs xy," and this is a massive threat to women and young people how? You're moving the goalposts. That's a sign you lost the argument.

They are all related. Loudon is important because your position normalizes males and female segregated spaces.

Nope, it doesn't normalize anything. There are already laws about sexual assault and everything else that the boy did and he should have been held to those laws and you can't point to anywhere in this thread where I said otherwise because I never did say otherwise. I never advocated for any of those to go away, so your claim that I'm "normalizing" it falls flat. Not to mention the fact that he was not even trans to begin with. You're flailing, still clinging to a right wing myth about the kid.

Your position is fighting to allow males in female spaces.

Stay on topic. Cite a credible poll showing how this ranks in terms of what drives young men to be right wing.

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Anonymous wrote:More proof of the rape of Loudoun teens.

https://wjla.com/features/i-team/teen-suspect-found-guilty-in-loudoun-county-public-school-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-assault

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/11/virginia-governor-pardons-father-school-girl-sexually-assaulted

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/family-loudoun-county-sexual-assault-victim-sues-district-30m-students-rape-school-bathroom.amp

No one is saying this didn't happen. What they are saying is, this case is cited over and over as evidence of a widespread societal issue, when statistically, it isn't.

That is the difference: you care about statistics. I care about every single woman.

Do you care about the women in Loudoun county that were raped by anyone other than a trans person? Were there any? Probably not, right? I don’t think it ever happens.

It’s so telling how people like you are are entirely unable to stay on topic. Because you have no logical arguments to make.

It’s deflect deflect deflect with whataboutism in every single comment.

What about gun control?
What about women who are raped?
What about Epstein?
What about Trump being a bad guy?

Young Men are simply tired of having to pretend that humans can change their sex.

It's so telling that you commit one fraudulent fallacy after another, base rate neglect, refusal to acknowledge the far bigger and far more legitimate concerns of others and so on. Not to mention that the core of your whole argument about trans people being a threat to women hinges on a story about a Loudoun County kid who wasn't even trans to begin with. This isn't being dismissive, or minimizing legitimate concerns, it's about calling out your outright lies and bullshit.

I have not mentioned loudon.

My argument is evolution and biology. No xx will ever be xy.

You know not everyone is xx or xy, right? Pesky biology, making things hard.

Gender identity is not related to the tiny segment of the population that suffers from sex chromosome anomalies.

Again, unwillingness to stay on topic.

Because everyone knows xx can’t become xy and men can’t become women; so your argument is simply for abolishing protections for women.

Stay on topic?
Frankly I don't even see how your injection of your fringe hysteria about transwomen was ever on topic in the first place.

You're the one who's off topic. If you want to convince me otherwise then show some polling of young right wing males showing trans issues to be the top driver of why they are the way they are.

Americans of all ages are tiring of trans nonsense.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/02/26/americans-have-grown-more-supportive-of-restrictions-for-trans-people-in-recent-years/

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Anonymous wrote:More proof of the rape of Loudoun teens.

https://wjla.com/features/i-team/teen-suspect-found-guilty-in-loudoun-county-public-school-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-assault

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/11/virginia-governor-pardons-father-school-girl-sexually-assaulted

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/family-loudoun-county-sexual-assault-victim-sues-district-30m-students-rape-school-bathroom.amp

No one is saying this didn't happen. What they are saying is, this case is cited over and over as evidence of a widespread societal issue, when statistically, it isn't.

That is the difference: you care about statistics. I care about every single woman.

Do you care about the women in Loudoun county that were raped by anyone other than a trans person? Were there any? Probably not, right? I don’t think it ever happens.

It’s so telling how people like you are are entirely unable to stay on topic. Because you have no logical arguments to make.

It’s deflect deflect deflect with whataboutism in every single comment.

What about gun control?
What about women who are raped?
What about Epstein?
What about Trump being a bad guy?

Young Men are simply tired of having to pretend that humans can change their sex.

It's so telling that you commit one fraudulent fallacy after another, base rate neglect, refusal to acknowledge the far bigger and far more legitimate concerns of others and so on. Not to mention that the core of your whole argument about trans people being a threat to women hinges on a story about a Loudoun County kid who wasn't even trans to begin with. This isn't being dismissive, or minimizing legitimate concerns, it's about calling out your outright lies and bullshit.

I have not mentioned loudon.

My argument is evolution and biology. No xx will ever be xy.

Yes you did reference Loudoun, but now you're backing off of that to try and gesture around randomly after someone pointed out that was not trans and was wearing a skirt to be rebellious and non-conforming, rather than embracing trans identity. So now we're supposed to rely on some other non-specific "threats" given your central one is a bogus fabrication of right wing pundits.

And now this argument has shifted to "evolution, biology, xx vs xy," and this is a massive threat to women and young people how? You're moving the goalposts. That's a sign you lost the argument.

They are all related. Loudon is important because your position normalizes males and female segregated spaces.

Nope, it doesn't normalize anything. There are already laws about sexual assault and everything else that the boy did and he should have been held to those laws and you can't point to anywhere in this thread where I said otherwise because I never did say otherwise. I never advocated for any of those to go away, so your claim that I'm "normalizing" it falls flat. Not to mention the fact that he was not even trans to begin with. You're flailing, still clinging to a right wing myth about the kid.

Your position is fighting to allow males in female spaces.

You're full of crap. Nobody here ever said that. They said it was a fringe issue with an astronomically small rate of occurrence that barely has any genuinely adverse effect on anyone and that there are far bigger challenges facing young people today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son is 32 and just told me he voted for Trump three times. I’m embarrassed and feel like a failure. We raised him in a liberal environment and now he’s become radicalized

He’s not even your stereotypical trump voter or whatever. Good job in coastal city, just got engaged, owns a house, many friends. But he’s gone down this rabbit hole of right wing politics and it leaves me baffled

I can't believe there are 35+ pages in this thread.

The answer is simple: As women and minorities have achieved a greater share of equality in corporate and public life, men (naturally) feel and experience some displacement. This change in the status quo is uncomfortable and right wing and foreign actors have stepped in to exploit these feelings.

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Anonymous wrote:More proof of the rape of Loudoun teens.

https://wjla.com/features/i-team/teen-suspect-found-guilty-in-loudoun-county-public-school-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-assault

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/11/virginia-governor-pardons-father-school-girl-sexually-assaulted

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/family-loudoun-county-sexual-assault-victim-sues-district-30m-students-rape-school-bathroom.amp

No one is saying this didn't happen. What they are saying is, this case is cited over and over as evidence of a widespread societal issue, when statistically, it isn't.

That is the difference: you care about statistics. I care about every single woman.

Do you care about the women in Loudoun county that were raped by anyone other than a trans person? Were there any? Probably not, right? I don’t think it ever happens.

It’s so telling how people like you are are entirely unable to stay on topic. Because you have no logical arguments to make.

It’s deflect deflect deflect with whataboutism in every single comment.

What about gun control?
What about women who are raped?
What about Epstein?
What about Trump being a bad guy?

Young Men are simply tired of having to pretend that humans can change their sex.

It's so telling that you commit one fraudulent fallacy after another, base rate neglect, refusal to acknowledge the far bigger and far more legitimate concerns of others and so on. Not to mention that the core of your whole argument about trans people being a threat to women hinges on a story about a Loudoun County kid who wasn't even trans to begin with. This isn't being dismissive, or minimizing legitimate concerns, it's about calling out your outright lies and bullshit.

I have not mentioned loudon.

My argument is evolution and biology. No xx will ever be xy.

You know not everyone is xx or xy, right? Pesky biology, making things hard.

Gender identity is not related to the tiny segment of the population that suffers from sex chromosome anomalies.

Again, unwillingness to stay on topic.

Because everyone knows xx can’t become xy and men can’t become women; so your argument is simply for abolishing protections for women.

Stay on topic?
Frankly I don't even see how your injection of your fringe hysteria about transwomen was ever on topic in the first place.

You're the one who's off topic. If you want to convince me otherwise then show some polling of young right wing males showing trans issues to be the top driver of why they are the way they are.

Americans of all ages are tiring of trans nonsense.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/02/26/americans-have-grown-more-supportive-of-restrictions-for-trans-people-in-recent-years/

That poll doesn't answer the question. They may be "tiring of it" but the question posed to you was how it ranks in terms of other issues - like the economy, gun violence, healthcare, and so on. Try again.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole men-in-women’s-sports issue is a scare tactic. That’s it. This is so incredibly rare. As another poster stated, it should be handled locally on a case by case basis. I only hear republicans talking about this. The only time I hear Democrats talking about it, they are responding to a question. And their answer is basically that it is not a federal government issue. This should be left to families and doctors. Democrats ARE the party of small government, and we need to start claiming that title. Rs want the government up in everyone’s business.

Also, if Rs would stop looking at people’s genitals in locker rooms and restrooms, this would be much less of an issue for them. I have no clue how many times I have shared these spaces with trans people because I don’t stare at people’s genitals.

And yet you could remove this “scare tactic” by abandoning the ridiculous take take that biological males identifying as females have as much right to women’s spaces in sports and locker rooms as biological women, but choose not to.

I wonder if folks like you will ever realize what fools they’ve made of you, making a nearly non-existent problem into your complete identity, distracting you from the things that matter.

Ii might be the same people that were building bunkers for Y2K.

I’m the poster you’re responding to and this isn’t the only issue I care about. I may care more than most as the parent of a high level female athlete, but it is not my identity. I’m responding to you because I am incredulous that you (and another far leftists) still refuse to acknowledge how ridiculous it is to have thrown your full support behind allowing males identifying as women to take a place in women’s spaces. You’re deflecting left and right in this thread with “what about”, etc. but still refuse to acknowledge how misguided your support of this is.

Can you cite exactly how many people we are talking about? Seriously, how many actual transitioning males to females are there at the high school level. Please show your work.

Let me give you one hint. In the COLLEGE level, out of over a half million athletes, there are only 10.
How many do you think there are in high school or younger?

Again, not addressing the point. Nothing about the statement you highlighted speaks to the number of people that are trans in HS. But of course you still will not engage with the fact that allowing biological men identifying as women into women’s spaces is ridiculous, regardless of how large or small the number of people is. Because if it’s a such a small number of people, why are you so insistent that trans women be entitled to belong in biological women’s spaces?

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Anonymous wrote:More proof of the rape of Loudoun teens.

https://wjla.com/features/i-team/teen-suspect-found-guilty-in-loudoun-county-public-school-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-assault

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/11/virginia-governor-pardons-father-school-girl-sexually-assaulted

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/family-loudoun-county-sexual-assault-victim-sues-district-30m-students-rape-school-bathroom.amp

No one is saying this didn't happen. What they are saying is, this case is cited over and over as evidence of a widespread societal issue, when statistically, it isn't.

That is the difference: you care about statistics. I care about every single woman.

Do you care about the women in Loudoun county that were raped by anyone other than a trans person? Were there any? Probably not, right? I don’t think it ever happens.

It’s so telling how people like you are are entirely unable to stay on topic. Because you have no logical arguments to make.

It’s deflect deflect deflect with whataboutism in every single comment.

What about gun control?
What about women who are raped?
What about Epstein?
What about Trump being a bad guy?

Young Men are simply tired of having to pretend that humans can change their sex.

It's so telling that you commit one fraudulent fallacy after another, base rate neglect, refusal to acknowledge the far bigger and far more legitimate concerns of others and so on. Not to mention that the core of your whole argument about trans people being a threat to women hinges on a story about a Loudoun County kid who wasn't even trans to begin with. This isn't being dismissive, or minimizing legitimate concerns, it's about calling out your outright lies and bullshit.

I have not mentioned loudon.

My argument is evolution and biology. No xx will ever be xy.

Yes you did reference Loudoun, but now you're backing off of that to try and gesture around randomly after someone pointed out that was not trans and was wearing a skirt to be rebellious and non-conforming, rather than embracing trans identity. So now we're supposed to rely on some other non-specific "threats" given your central one is a bogus fabrication of right wing pundits.

And now this argument has shifted to "evolution, biology, xx vs xy," and this is a massive threat to women and young people how? You're moving the goalposts. That's a sign you lost the argument.

They are all related. Loudon is important because your position normalizes males and female segregated spaces.

Nope, it doesn't normalize anything. There are already laws about sexual assault and everything else that the boy did and he should have been held to those laws and you can't point to anywhere in this thread where I said otherwise because I never did say otherwise. I never advocated for any of those to go away, so your claim that I'm "normalizing" it falls flat. Not to mention the fact that he was not even trans to begin with. You're flailing, still clinging to a right wing myth about the kid.

Your position is fighting to allow males in female spaces.

Stay on topic. Cite a credible poll showing how this ranks in terms of what drives young men to be right wing.

The money doesn’t lie.

“Kamala Harris is for they/them. Donald Trump is for you”

Was broadcast nonstop, particularly on live sporting events.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole men-in-women’s-sports issue is a scare tactic. That’s it. This is so incredibly rare. As another poster stated, it should be handled locally on a case by case basis. I only hear republicans talking about this. The only time I hear Democrats talking about it, they are responding to a question. And their answer is basically that it is not a federal government issue. This should be left to families and doctors. Democrats ARE the party of small government, and we need to start claiming that title. Rs want the government up in everyone’s business.

Also, if Rs would stop looking at people’s genitals in locker rooms and restrooms, this would be much less of an issue for them. I have no clue how many times I have shared these spaces with trans people because I don’t stare at people’s genitals.

And yet you could remove this “scare tactic” by abandoning the ridiculous take take that biological males identifying as females have as much right to women’s spaces in sports and locker rooms as biological women, but choose not to.

I wonder if folks like you will ever realize what fools they’ve made of you, making a nearly non-existent problem into your complete identity, distracting you from the things that matter.

Ii might be the same people that were building bunkers for Y2K.

I’m the poster you’re responding to and this isn’t the only issue I care about. I may care more than most as the parent of a high level female athlete, but it is not my identity. I’m responding to you because I am incredulous that you (and another far leftists) still refuse to acknowledge how ridiculous it is to have thrown your full support behind allowing males identifying as women to take a place in women’s spaces. You’re deflecting left and right in this thread with “what about”, etc. but still refuse to acknowledge how misguided your support of this is.

Can you cite exactly how many people we are talking about? Seriously, how many actual transitioning males to females are there at the high school level. Please show your work.

Let me give you one hint. In the COLLEGE level, out of over a half million athletes, there are only 10.
How many do you think there are in high school or younger?

Again, not addressing the point. Nothing about the statement you highlighted speaks to the number of people that are trans in HS. But of course you still will not engage with the fact that allowing biological men identifying as women into women’s spaces is ridiculous, regardless of how large or small the number of people is. Because if it’s a such a small number of people, why are you so insistent that trans women be entitled to belong in biological women’s spaces?

Back to the "one is too many" stance. Well one mass shooting is too many mass shootings. Right back atcha.

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Anonymous wrote:More proof of the rape of Loudoun teens.

https://wjla.com/features/i-team/teen-suspect-found-guilty-in-loudoun-county-public-school-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-assault

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/11/virginia-governor-pardons-father-school-girl-sexually-assaulted

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/family-loudoun-county-sexual-assault-victim-sues-district-30m-students-rape-school-bathroom.amp

No one is saying this didn't happen. What they are saying is, this case is cited over and over as evidence of a widespread societal issue, when statistically, it isn't.

That is the difference: you care about statistics. I care about every single woman.

Do you care about the women in Loudoun county that were raped by anyone other than a trans person? Were there any? Probably not, right? I don’t think it ever happens.

It’s so telling how people like you are are entirely unable to stay on topic. Because you have no logical arguments to make.

It’s deflect deflect deflect with whataboutism in every single comment.

What about gun control?
What about women who are raped?
What about Epstein?
What about Trump being a bad guy?

Young Men are simply tired of having to pretend that humans can change their sex.

It's so telling that you commit one fraudulent fallacy after another, base rate neglect, refusal to acknowledge the far bigger and far more legitimate concerns of others and so on. Not to mention that the core of your whole argument about trans people being a threat to women hinges on a story about a Loudoun County kid who wasn't even trans to begin with. This isn't being dismissive, or minimizing legitimate concerns, it's about calling out your outright lies and bullshit.

I have not mentioned loudon.

My argument is evolution and biology. No xx will ever be xy.

You know not everyone is xx or xy, right? Pesky biology, making things hard.

Gender identity is not related to the tiny segment of the population that suffers from sex chromosome anomalies.

Again, unwillingness to stay on topic.

Because everyone knows xx can’t become xy and men can’t become women; so your argument is simply for abolishing protections for women.

Stay on topic?
Frankly I don't even see how your injection of your fringe hysteria about transwomen was ever on topic in the first place.

You're the one who's off topic. If you want to convince me otherwise then show some polling of young right wing males showing trans issues to be the top driver of why they are the way they are.

Americans of all ages are tiring of trans nonsense.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/02/26/americans-have-grown-more-supportive-of-restrictions-for-trans-people-in-recent-years/

That poll doesn't answer the question. They may be "tiring of it" but the question posed to you was how it ranks in terms of other issues - like the economy, gun violence, healthcare, and so on. Try again.

No.

Men are right wing for a variety of reasons.

Trans is one of them.

You are free to make your own case about the economy, guns (?) or health care. Because as we have seen you unwilling and unable to focus on the trans issue. Which is actually smart, since it’s a losing issue for you.