Why did Arab majority Deerborn, Michigan go for Trump?

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Anonymous wrote:I really doubt most voters in Dearborn really expected Trump to be a savior. That can't be representative of the majority. They're not idiots.


Nobody genuinely expects anything good from Trump. They expected to "send a message" to Harris and for Harris to win and do better. But instead, they cost her the election and will have to deal with the next 4 years of chaos, mayhem, death and destruction to befall Palestinians.


She unfortunately would have lost even if she won Dearborn.

The uncommitted campaign did a lot of damage to a candidate who is up against a mountain of disinformation so spare me. Was she perfect? no. does Biden have a bad policy on Gaza? Absolutely yes.

But when one is under a threat of somebody like Trump, you don’t start splitting the coalition. The spillover went to many, many states. I know I was on the ground of North Carolina and spoke to young people who got sucked up into this uncommitted story. When we knew Trump was the nominee was the time to stop this BS .


Yup. They underestimated Trump and thought it was safe to split the coalition and that's why we have Trump.


But that's because you still see Trump as so much worse than Biden. Here's the thing, when a party/government can't draw a line at genocide, there is no redemption. I'm sorry. Ultimately, all of these politicians are bought and sold to the highest bidders. Trump will funnel our hard earned tax dollars to his own private interests and Israel. The Democrats will funnel it to Israel.

I'm not okay with any of it.

-- Harris voter who's sick of the blame game. The buck stops at the person who is running this government NOW.


I voted for Harris. What is happening is Gaza is not genocide. Hamas started this war and infiltrated itself within civilian population to perpetuate the Palestinian cause and hurt Israel in the process of defending itself. That is not what. A genocide is. If anyone is committing genocide, it’s Hamas.
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I never considered myself a "Zionist" and never will. I think the attack by Hamas on Israel was wrong, but I also think the IDF has waged a poor, and unnecessarily brutal campaign on Gaza.

I had empathy for Palestinians.

But this whole election debacle has just left me frustrated and drained on the whole thing. I once could have had solidarity with Dearborn Arabs, but no longer. Sorry, I just can't anymore. You're on your own.
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Israel thinks they can now take the West Bank as Trump won’t stop them. Trump moved US Embassy to Jerusalem recognizing it as the capital to Israel.
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Anonymous wrote:I never considered myself a "Zionist" and never will. I think the attack by Hamas on Israel was wrong, but I also think the IDF has waged a poor, and unnecessarily brutal campaign on Gaza.

I had empathy for Palestinians.

But this whole election debacle has just left me frustrated and drained on the whole thing. I once could have had solidarity with Dearborn Arabs, but no longer. Sorry, I just can't anymore. You're on your own.


You never had empathy for palestinians
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How did voting for Stein work out for them?
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No one expected Stein to win, but neither major party offered a candidate they could support. I wouldn't have voted Stein. I was thinking about abstaining all together, but in the end voted for Harris. But I don't blame people for being unable to do so.
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Anonymous wrote:No one expected Stein to win, but neither major party offered a candidate they could support. I wouldn't have voted Stein. I was thinking about abstaining all together, but in the end voted for Harris. But I don't blame people for being unable to do so.


We can go around in this circle all day. They can vote how they want. Now they get to live with the consequences.

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Anonymous wrote:No one expected Stein to win, but neither major party offered a candidate they could support. I wouldn't have voted Stein. I was thinking about abstaining all together, but in the end voted for Harris. But I don't blame people for being unable to do so.


We can go around in this circle all day. They can vote how they want. Now they get to live with the consequences.



What consequences? I voted for Harris but if someone living in Dearborn has personally lost their family in Gaza because of Israel’s war crimes, how can they possibly vote for this administration? They are both the same. Oh they’ll take over West Bank as well? Might as well just end it once and for all instead of prolonging this torturous existence for Palestinians.
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Anonymous wrote:I never considered myself a "Zionist" and never will. I think the attack by Hamas on Israel was wrong, but I also think the IDF has waged a poor, and unnecessarily brutal campaign on Gaza.

I had empathy for Palestinians.

But this whole election debacle has just left me frustrated and drained on the whole thing. I once could have had solidarity with Dearborn Arabs, but no longer. Sorry, I just can't anymore. You're on your own.


You never had empathy for palestinians


Oh we did. We in fact had empathy for Palestinians and Israelis. We don’t believe that Hamas should have attacked Israel, just as we don’t think Israel should be allowed to have an occupation of Palestine or control its borders. We are for a cease fire and peace and that aide should be immediately given in Gaza. We understand that weapons replenishment to Israel should slow so that everyone comes to the table with something to lose.

We also know that Trump absolutely doesn’t care about any of the above nor many of the issues affecting the U.S.. We also know that the third party candidates did not have enough of a coalition to make them viable, and thus voting for them was essentially asking for Trump to win. So we make the tough choices. Just because YOU couldn’t, wouldn’t and didn’t do the same does not now make us who did to blame.

Maybe you should have spent more time making other candidates viable and less time protesting Harris. More time finding people on the right to agree with you and vote the same. Stop asking those of us who already vote for the common good to sacrifice more and do more. We’re exhausted and have been continuously betrayed. And your inability to think strategically has help unleash a much more serious problem.
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Being a Palestinian American and not voting for Harris is the literal definition of cutting off your nose despite your face
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Anonymous wrote:Trump will let Netanyahu do whatever he wants. From now through the next four years, the blood of every dead Gazan child, the death of every innocent Lebanese, will be on the hands of Dearborn Muslims.



I think we will have a deal in both Israel and Ukraine by March. Israel earlier.
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Anonymous wrote:I never considered myself a "Zionist" and never will. I think the attack by Hamas on Israel was wrong, but I also think the IDF has waged a poor, and unnecessarily brutal campaign on Gaza.

I had empathy for Palestinians.

But this whole election debacle has just left me frustrated and drained on the whole thing. I once could have had solidarity with Dearborn Arabs, but no longer. Sorry, I just can't anymore. You're on your own.


You never had empathy for palestinians


Oh we did. We in fact had empathy for Palestinians and Israelis. We don’t believe that Hamas should have attacked Israel, just as we don’t think Israel should be allowed to have an occupation of Palestine or control its borders. We are for a cease fire and peace and that aide should be immediately given in Gaza. We understand that weapons replenishment to Israel should slow so that everyone comes to the table with something to lose.

We also know that Trump absolutely doesn’t care about any of the above nor many of the issues affecting the U.S.. We also know that the third party candidates did not have enough of a coalition to make them viable, and thus voting for them was essentially asking for Trump to win. So we make the tough choices. Just because YOU couldn’t, wouldn’t and didn’t do the same does not now make us who did to blame.

Maybe you should have spent more time making other candidates viable and less time protesting Harris. More time finding people on the right to agree with you and vote the same. Stop asking those of us who already vote for the common good to sacrifice more and do more. We’re exhausted and have been continuously betrayed. And your inability to think strategically has help unleash a much more serious problem.


DP give it a rest. The blame for Trump’s election is on American Jews and Israeli billionaires who funded his campaign and would not allow Harris to break off Israel. Everything else is just anti Muslim hate speech.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I never considered myself a "Zionist" and never will. I think the attack by Hamas on Israel was wrong, but I also think the IDF has waged a poor, and unnecessarily brutal campaign on Gaza.

I had empathy for Palestinians.

But this whole election debacle has just left me frustrated and drained on the whole thing. I once could have had solidarity with Dearborn Arabs, but no longer. Sorry, I just can't anymore. You're on your own.


You never had empathy for palestinians


Oh we did. We in fact had empathy for Palestinians and Israelis. We don’t believe that Hamas should have attacked Israel, just as we don’t think Israel should be allowed to have an occupation of Palestine or control its borders. We are for a cease fire and peace and that aide should be immediately given in Gaza. We understand that weapons replenishment to Israel should slow so that everyone comes to the table with something to lose.

We also know that Trump absolutely doesn’t care about any of the above nor many of the issues affecting the U.S.. We also know that the third party candidates did not have enough of a coalition to make them viable, and thus voting for them was essentially asking for Trump to win. So we make the tough choices. Just because YOU couldn’t, wouldn’t and didn’t do the same does not now make us who did to blame.

Maybe you should have spent more time making other candidates viable and less time protesting Harris. More time finding people on the right to agree with you and vote the same. Stop asking those of us who already vote for the common good to sacrifice more and do more. We’re exhausted and have been continuously betrayed. And your inability to think strategically has help unleash a much more serious problem.


DP give it a rest. The blame for Trump’s election is on American Jews and Israeli billionaires who funded his campaign and would not allow Harris to break off Israel. Everything else is just anti Muslim hate speech.


I don’t hate Muslims. Nor Palestinians. Nor Jews. Nor Israeli’s. I and others are just not willing to be told that we need reflect and determine what we should do better next time. I and others are completely ok with saying this is what people voted for(or didn’t vote to stop) and so what will be will be.

The issue is that some of ya’ll (including some that actually voted for Trump) are realizing what’s at stake. You’re realizing that you need people like me to stand with you on issues that matter. The problem is that folks like me are now going to be like, “ah got it. You make good points. Good luck with that.” And before you come at me with that stance being unpatriotic or not of moral character I’d remind you the God is not always merciful.
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Anonymous wrote:No one expected Stein to win, but neither major party offered a candidate they could support. I wouldn't have voted Stein. I was thinking about abstaining all together, but in the end voted for Harris. But I don't blame people for being unable to do so.


We can go around in this circle all day. They can vote how they want. Now they get to live with the consequences.



What consequences? I voted for Harris but if someone living in Dearborn has personally lost their family in Gaza because of Israel’s war crimes, how can they possibly vote for this administration? They are both the same. Oh they’ll take over West Bank as well? Might as well just end it once and for all instead of prolonging this torturous existence for Palestinians.


How would US react if some group came to our country with a plan attack and kill thousands? Oh yeah, we did react from 9/11 attack. Israel has a right to protect itself.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No one expected Stein to win, but neither major party offered a candidate they could support. I wouldn't have voted Stein. I was thinking about abstaining all together, but in the end voted for Harris. But I don't blame people for being unable to do so.


We can go around in this circle all day. They can vote how they want. Now they get to live with the consequences.



What consequences? I voted for Harris but if someone living in Dearborn has personally lost their family in Gaza because of Israel’s war crimes, how can they possibly vote for this administration? They are both the same. Oh they’ll take over West Bank as well? Might as well just end it once and for all instead of prolonging this torturous existence for Palestinians.


And about to lose more family in the West Bank. And new administration appointees who don’t believe in Palestinians.
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