FCPS comprehensive boundary review

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Anonymous wrote:Foresee anything happening in Woodson pyramid?

FWIW in FCPS’s capacity projections for 2028-29 on the capacity dashboard, the only HS’s that are projected to be “in the red” and significantly over capacity are Woodson and WSHS.

Keep in mind that these projections include modular seats (but not trailers) when calculating a school's capacity. There's been some discussion as to whether they should try and get kids out of modulars, although they really haven't asked people at schools with modulars how they feel.

West Springfield HS has zero modulars and empty classroom space.

The projections for WSHS are wildly inaccurate and inflated.

I don’t disagree but these are the numbers that they have somehow come up with.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Foresee anything happening in Woodson pyramid?

FWIW in FCPS’s capacity projections for 2028-29 on the capacity dashboard, the only HS’s that are projected to be “in the red” and significantly over capacity are Woodson and WSHS.

Keep in mind that these projections include modular seats (but not trailers) when calculating a school's capacity. There's been some discussion as to whether they should try and get kids out of modulars, although they really haven't asked people at schools with modulars how they feel.

West Springfield HS has zero modulars and empty classroom space.

The projections for WSHS are wildly inaccurate and inflated.

I don’t disagree but these are the numbers that they have somehow come up with.

The design capacity is just over 2500 and they have 2791 students this year. Not sure why you think you would know what the number will be in 4 years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Foresee anything happening in Woodson pyramid?

FWIW in FCPS’s capacity projections for 2028-29 on the capacity dashboard, the only HS’s that are projected to be “in the red” and significantly over capacity are Woodson and WSHS.

Can you show us where to find that dashboard please?

It’s a little convoluted but hopefully these instructions make sense.

1) go here: https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/facilities-and-membership-dashboards and tap on the “Capacity overview …” link

2) tap on capacity utilization maps

3) change school level to HS

4) scroll down on the page until you see the second map for 28-29 projected capacity (it is my understanding this is the projection given the current maps with no changes/redistricting)

WSHS they are projecting at 117% and Woodson at 108%. The yellows are around 100% plus or minus a few and the blue are under capacity.

WSHS is using inaccurate inflated data.

The school doesn’t come up with its own projections. That is done by FCPS staff.

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Anonymous wrote:Foresee anything happening in Woodson pyramid?

Mantua is probably safe since it’s so close to Woodson.

I believe the apartments right across the street from Woodson may be zoned for Fairfax HS, and Fairfax Villa ES sure looks like an attendance island that should have been in FHS.

FHS pyramid has dual superintendent though, Dr Reid and the Ffx City superintendent so maybe they don't touch it and instead ship Wakefield Forest and Canterbury Woods off to Annandale instead? Pure speculation

Fairfax HS is its own city, so none of those schools should be touched, and no other schools should be rezoned into Fairfax HS.

Is the town of Vienna also immune from redistricting? Or is it just Fairfax City?

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Anonymous wrote:Foresee anything happening in Woodson pyramid?

Mantua is probably safe since it’s so close to Woodson.

I believe the apartments right across the street from Woodson may be zoned for Fairfax HS, and Fairfax Villa ES sure looks like an attendance island that should have been in FHS.

FHS pyramid has dual superintendent though, Dr Reid and the Ffx City superintendent so maybe they don't touch it and instead ship Wakefield Forest and Canterbury Woods off to Annandale instead? Pure speculation

Fairfax HS is its own city, so none of those schools should be touched, and no other schools should be rezoned into Fairfax HS.

Is the town of Vienna also immune from redistricting? Or is it just Fairfax City?

Fairfax City kids are required by law to attend the Fairfax City-owned schools (or TJ). County kids also attend the Fairfax City schools and whether other or different county kids should attend Fairfax HS can be negotiated.

The towns (Clifton, Herndon, and Vienna) are a different deal. They attend whatever schools FCPS decides or agrees they should attend. Right now, for example. all of the town of Vienna is zoned to Madison, but at one point decades ago part of the town went to Oakton and the rest went to Madison.

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Anonymous wrote:Foresee anything happening in Woodson pyramid?

Mantua is probably safe since it’s so close to Woodson.

I believe the apartments right across the street from Woodson may be zoned for Fairfax HS, and Fairfax Villa ES sure looks like an attendance island that should have been in FHS.

FHS pyramid has dual superintendent though, Dr Reid and the Ffx City superintendent so maybe they don't touch it and instead ship Wakefield Forest and Canterbury Woods off to Annandale instead? Pure speculation

Fairfax HS is its own city, so none of those schools should be touched, and no other schools should be rezoned into Fairfax HS.

Is the town of Vienna also immune from redistricting? Or is it just Fairfax City?

Vienna and Herndon are towns and a part of Fairfax County. Fairfax City is an independent city just like The City of Falls Church but chose to utilize Fairfax Public Schools instead of establishing their own.

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Can someone please tell me with any certainty when the new maps will be out? I am preparing my house for sale now.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please tell me with any certainty when the new maps will be out? I am preparing my house for sale now.

They said first drafts will be out April/May 2025.

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Anonymous wrote:Foresee anything happening in Woodson pyramid?

Mantua is probably safe since it’s so close to Woodson.

I believe the apartments right across the street from Woodson may be zoned for Fairfax HS, and Fairfax Villa ES sure looks like an attendance island that should have been in FHS.

FHS pyramid has dual superintendent though, Dr Reid and the Ffx City superintendent so maybe they don't touch it and instead ship Wakefield Forest and Canterbury Woods off to Annandale instead? Pure speculation

Fairfax HS is its own city, so none of those schools should be touched, and no other schools should be rezoned into Fairfax HS.

Is the town of Vienna also immune from redistricting? Or is it just Fairfax City?

Vienna and Herndon are towns and a part of Fairfax County. Fairfax City is an independent city just like The City of Falls Church but chose to utilize Fairfax Public Schools instead of establishing their own.

They do have their own schools - two ES, one MS, and one HS are owned by Fairfax City. But they contract with FCPS to operate those schools, and the schools have some space for kids who live outside Fairfax City. Falls Church City also owns multiple schools that, unlike Fairfax City, it operates as a separate school system.

[Anonymous]

Remember, it's not about actually addressing WSHS capacity. If it was this could be solved a number of ways through auditing student residence documentation and transfer ins. Instead, the goal is how to slice away the most high performing population to Lewis to save a failing school.

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Anonymous wrote:Home values will still remain high for kids zoned for Hunt Valley if moved to Lewis. If anything, it might pull more enlisted families in.

Ok Hunt Valley to Lewis poster, if you’re so knowledgeable about the situation you would know they are trying to DECREASE split feeders not create new ones. Like 3 neighborhoods were split feeders and that ended in 2005-2006ish. They went to HV and Lee/Lewis at that time. However with the opening of South County, which took kids mostly from Hayfield’s attendance area and some from Lake Braddock, those neighborhoods were originally set to be moved to Lake Braddock as LB had lost some kids to SC. However the neighborhoods complained about the length of the commute to LB and instead, the SB took the opportunity to fix the split feeder and send them all to WSHS. You can see the remnant of this decision on the attendance maps where the neighborhood immediately to their north/northwest is an attendance island zoned for Sangster and LB.

They could not go to (then) South County secondary, now SC MS/HS as it was at capacity when it opened. They also couldn’t go to the much closer Newington Forest ES, which had not yet been expanded or renovated at that time. Now, however, there is room for at least some of them at Newington Forest and there is certainly room at South County. The bus stop for some of those kids is at the corner of Newington Forest and Tyrolean Way. They could easily walk to NF from that bus stop, and they are also marginally closer to SC than they are to WSHS. Thats going to be where they get kids out of WSHS and HV. They will probably also get rid of that attendance island for Sangster. That will give some room to move kids around in that area and relieve Orange Hunt a bit, since those schools are all very physically close to one another.

Agree. Sandy Anderson has even said that she does not see a scenario in which HV is moved over to the Lewis pyramid because one would pass through two other elementary schools on the way to Lewis, and Lewis is not the closest or second closest high school to HV. Bottom line if you remain zoned for HV you should be safe to remain in WSHS. The areas at risk are some of the south of the parkway population where it makes more sense to attend Newington Forest, such as the area south of Middle Run Stream Valley Park that is walking distance to NF.

I think we will be surprised and a larger chunk of the WSHS population will move to Lake Braddock than will move to Lewis.

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If I get a job at Fcps and live outside the boundary can my children go to the school I am employed?

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If they do not take steps to bolster Lewis’s enrollment this entire boundary exercise will have been a fiasco.

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Anonymous wrote:If they do not take steps to bolster Lewis’s enrollment this entire boundary exercise will have been a fiasco.

Perhaps they could actually fix whatever underlying issues exist at the school to make it undesirable for many families, rather than use FCPS kids as pawns in their equity game.

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Anonymous wrote:If they do not take steps to bolster Lewis’s enrollment this entire boundary exercise will have been a fiasco.

I believe they need to keep their options open WRT Lewis. There was talk in the past of turning it into some kind of IB magnet and distributing the ES feeders to the nearby high schools. This may come up again with the state’s new rules on accreditation. Also there is a lot of residential development in the works in that area, not all of which is zoned for Lewis to be sure but they may need to shift borders in the future like 5-10 years off to relieve Edison.