How many teachers are leaving your school next year?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Losing 24 teachers in one year is not normal at all. Teaching is hard and teachers hold on to good work environments tightly. I’m not part of this school community but considering the incessant discussion about Navy on this website this school environment has drama written all over it.

Like has been said before, it’s not unusual with a new principal. A new principal shouldn’t possibly be expected to replicate the exact same environment as a previous principal. And some of the people leaving are not even classroom teachers.

Stop saying that-every teacher/specialist keeps these schools working properly. If you are losing SPED and ESOL....art or music, etc it is a loss to a school and everyone feels that loss.

Probably saying this because their kid isn't SPED...however if there isn't enough SPED teachers(which is a constant problem) guess what the "regular" classroom(teachers and students) will be impacted....we are an inclusive county.

Agreed!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Losing 24 teachers in one year is not normal at all. Teaching is hard and teachers hold on to good work environments tightly. I’m not part of this school community but considering the incessant discussion about Navy on this website this school environment has drama written all over it.

Like has been said before, it’s not unusual with a new principal. A new principal shouldn’t possibly be expected to replicate the exact same environment as a previous principal. And some of the people leaving are not even classroom teachers.

Stop saying that-every teacher/specialist keeps these schools working properly. If you are losing SPED and ESOL....art or music, etc it is a loss to a school and everyone feels that loss.

I didn’t say it wasn’t a loss - but it’s incorrect to state that 24 TEACHERS are leaving. I think classroom teaching positions are harder to fill than say a counselor or a librarian. So if people are worried about filling those spots you don’t need to be. Likewise, whole teams aren’t actually leaving as was stated. Previous posters are being dramatic to try to prove some point. At least half the number of STAFF leaving are aides, counselors, librarian, and resource teachers. Yes the school will look different but I have complete confidence it will be ok come fall.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Losing 24 teachers in one year is not normal at all. Teaching is hard and teachers hold on to good work environments tightly. I’m not part of this school community but considering the incessant discussion about Navy on this website this school environment has drama written all over it.

Like has been said before, it’s not unusual with a new principal. A new principal shouldn’t possibly be expected to replicate the exact same environment as a previous principal. And some of the people leaving are not even classroom teachers.

Stop saying that-every teacher/specialist keeps these schools working properly. If you are losing SPED and ESOL....art or music, etc it is a loss to a school and everyone feels that loss.

Losing an art teacher isn’t a crisis, sorry. In fact, the two art teachers currently at Navy haven’t even been here that long. I think one left and a current teacher is taking that spot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Losing 24 teachers in one year is not normal at all. Teaching is hard and teachers hold on to good work environments tightly. I’m not part of this school community but considering the incessant discussion about Navy on this website this school environment has drama written all over it.

Like has been said before, it’s not unusual with a new principal. A new principal shouldn’t possibly be expected to replicate the exact same environment as a previous principal. And some of the people leaving are not even classroom teachers.

Stop saying that-every teacher/specialist keeps these schools working properly. If you are losing SPED and ESOL....art or music, etc it is a loss to a school and everyone feels that loss.

I didn’t say it wasn’t a loss - but it’s incorrect to state that 24 TEACHERS are leaving. I think classroom teaching positions are harder to fill than say a counselor or a librarian. So if people are worried about filling those spots you don’t need to be. Likewise, whole teams aren’t actually leaving as was stated. Previous posters are being dramatic to try to prove some point. At least half the number of STAFF leaving are aides, counselors, librarian, and resource teachers. Yes the school will look different but I have complete confidence it will be ok come fall.

Incorrect! More than half are classroom teachers. 17 to be exact. Yes, one taught esol this year but she was a classroom teacher before that and she was phenomenal. Another one is a math resource that my older kid had as a classroom teacher several years ago and she was also a wonderful teacher. It's a big loss no matter how you want to label it. One of the counselors has been there forever and was amazing. I suggest you put down whatever it is you are smoking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Losing 24 teachers in one year is not normal at all. Teaching is hard and teachers hold on to good work environments tightly. I’m not part of this school community but considering the incessant discussion about Navy on this website this school environment has drama written all over it.

Like has been said before, it’s not unusual with a new principal. A new principal shouldn’t possibly be expected to replicate the exact same environment as a previous principal. And some of the people leaving are not even classroom teachers.

Stop saying that-every teacher/specialist keeps these schools working properly. If you are losing SPED and ESOL....art or music, etc it is a loss to a school and everyone feels that loss.

I didn’t say it wasn’t a loss - but it’s incorrect to state that 24 TEACHERS are leaving. I think classroom teaching positions are harder to fill than say a counselor or a librarian. So if people are worried about filling those spots you don’t need to be. Likewise, whole teams aren’t actually leaving as was stated. Previous posters are being dramatic to try to prove some point. At least half the number of STAFF leaving are aides, counselors, librarian, and resource teachers. Yes the school will look different but I have complete confidence it will be ok come fall.

Incorrect! More than half are classroom teachers. 17 to be exact. Yes, one taught esol this year but she was a classroom teacher before that and she was phenomenal. Another one is a math resource that my older kid had as a classroom teacher several years ago and she was also a wonderful teacher. It's a big loss no matter how you want to label it. One of the counselors has been there forever and was amazing. I suggest you put down whatever it is you are smoking.

The counselors are handling all of the behaviors in the schools and aides are needed for special ed to function. I don’t have data on how hard it is to find instructional assistants but I assume it’s as difficult as finding subs. I work at a title one with a lot of big behaviors and high turnover and we are a similar size to Navy and we only lost 13 staff members. For an AAP center school in a wealthy area to lose that many staff members at once shows that something went wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Losing 24 teachers in one year is not normal at all. Teaching is hard and teachers hold on to good work environments tightly. I’m not part of this school community but considering the incessant discussion about Navy on this website this school environment has drama written all over it.

Like has been said before, it’s not unusual with a new principal. A new principal shouldn’t possibly be expected to replicate the exact same environment as a previous principal. And some of the people leaving are not even classroom teachers.

Stop saying that-every teacher/specialist keeps these schools working properly. If you are losing SPED and ESOL....art or music, etc it is a loss to a school and everyone feels that loss.

I didn’t say it wasn’t a loss - but it’s incorrect to state that 24 TEACHERS are leaving. I think classroom teaching positions are harder to fill than say a counselor or a librarian. So if people are worried about filling those spots you don’t need to be. Likewise, whole teams aren’t actually leaving as was stated. Previous posters are being dramatic to try to prove some point. At least half the number of STAFF leaving are aides, counselors, librarian, and resource teachers. Yes the school will look different but I have complete confidence it will be ok come fall.

Incorrect! More than half are classroom teachers. 17 to be exact. Yes, one taught esol this year but she was a classroom teacher before that and she was phenomenal. Another one is a math resource that my older kid had as a classroom teacher several years ago and she was also a wonderful teacher. It's a big loss no matter how you want to label it. One of the counselors has been there forever and was amazing. I suggest you put down whatever it is you are smoking.

The counselors are handling all of the behaviors in the schools and aides are needed for special ed to function. I don’t have data on how hard it is to find instructional assistants but I assume it’s as difficult as finding subs. I work at a title one with a lot of big behaviors and high turnover and we are a similar size to Navy and we only lost 13 staff members. For an AAP center school in a wealthy area to lose that many staff members at once shows that something went wrong.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that something went wrong. I don't understand the people saying that this is no big deal and it's par for the course. They clearly must be deluded or uninformed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Losing 24 teachers in one year is not normal at all. Teaching is hard and teachers hold on to good work environments tightly. I’m not part of this school community but considering the incessant discussion about Navy on this website this school environment has drama written all over it.

Like has been said before, it’s not unusual with a new principal. A new principal shouldn’t possibly be expected to replicate the exact same environment as a previous principal. And some of the people leaving are not even classroom teachers.

Stop saying that-every teacher/specialist keeps these schools working properly. If you are losing SPED and ESOL....art or music, etc it is a loss to a school and everyone feels that loss.

I didn’t say it wasn’t a loss - but it’s incorrect to state that 24 TEACHERS are leaving. I think classroom teaching positions are harder to fill than say a counselor or a librarian. So if people are worried about filling those spots you don’t need to be. Likewise, whole teams aren’t actually leaving as was stated. Previous posters are being dramatic to try to prove some point. At least half the number of STAFF leaving are aides, counselors, librarian, and resource teachers. Yes the school will look different but I have complete confidence it will be ok come fall.

Incorrect! More than half are classroom teachers. 17 to be exact. Yes, one taught esol this year but she was a classroom teacher before that and she was phenomenal. Another one is a math resource that my older kid had as a classroom teacher several years ago and she was also a wonderful teacher. It's a big loss no matter how you want to label it. One of the counselors has been there forever and was amazing. I suggest you put down whatever it is you are smoking.

The counselors are handling all of the behaviors in the schools and aides are needed for special ed to function. I don’t have data on how hard it is to find instructional assistants but I assume it’s as difficult as finding subs. I work at a title one with a lot of big behaviors and high turnover and we are a similar size to Navy and we only lost 13 staff members. For an AAP center school in a wealthy area to lose that many staff members at once shows that something went wrong.

Yes, what happened was the old lax principal drove drunk and fled the scene and was convicted of a DUI. So we had to get a new principal who is fresh off the boat. He is following county guidelines strictly because he himself is new and has to answer to higher ups. Most of the staff leaving for new positions within the country adored the old principal. It makes sense for them to leave since the old principal is no longer here. The old principal is who hired most of them!!!

But there are a lot of staff members on the list who are actually leaving FCPS due to actually moving or what not. I think we will really be able to tell only after another year. If this same amount leaves then, I will eat crow. My guess is it will settle down because they will all be hires from the new principal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Losing 24 teachers in one year is not normal at all. Teaching is hard and teachers hold on to good work environments tightly. I’m not part of this school community but considering the incessant discussion about Navy on this website this school environment has drama written all over it.

Like has been said before, it’s not unusual with a new principal. A new principal shouldn’t possibly be expected to replicate the exact same environment as a previous principal. And some of the people leaving are not even classroom teachers.

Stop saying that-every teacher/specialist keeps these schools working properly. If you are losing SPED and ESOL....art or music, etc it is a loss to a school and everyone feels that loss.

I didn’t say it wasn’t a loss - but it’s incorrect to state that 24 TEACHERS are leaving. I think classroom teaching positions are harder to fill than say a counselor or a librarian. So if people are worried about filling those spots you don’t need to be. Likewise, whole teams aren’t actually leaving as was stated. Previous posters are being dramatic to try to prove some point. At least half the number of STAFF leaving are aides, counselors, librarian, and resource teachers. Yes the school will look different but I have complete confidence it will be ok come fall.

Incorrect! More than half are classroom teachers. 17 to be exact. Yes, one taught esol this year but she was a classroom teacher before that and she was phenomenal. Another one is a math resource that my older kid had as a classroom teacher several years ago and she was also a wonderful teacher. It's a big loss no matter how you want to label it. One of the counselors has been there forever and was amazing. I suggest you put down whatever it is you are smoking.

One of the counselors was only there for 2 years and is now leaving FCPS for good. The previous new counselor only lasted one year and then moved out of state at the end of they year as well. Was that because of the new principal as well?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Losing 24 teachers in one year is not normal at all. Teaching is hard and teachers hold on to good work environments tightly. I’m not part of this school community but considering the incessant discussion about Navy on this website this school environment has drama written all over it.

Like has been said before, it’s not unusual with a new principal. A new principal shouldn’t possibly be expected to replicate the exact same environment as a previous principal. And some of the people leaving are not even classroom teachers.

Stop saying that-every teacher/specialist keeps these schools working properly. If you are losing SPED and ESOL....art or music, etc it is a loss to a school and everyone feels that loss.

I didn’t say it wasn’t a loss - but it’s incorrect to state that 24 TEACHERS are leaving. I think classroom teaching positions are harder to fill than say a counselor or a librarian. So if people are worried about filling those spots you don’t need to be. Likewise, whole teams aren’t actually leaving as was stated. Previous posters are being dramatic to try to prove some point. At least half the number of STAFF leaving are aides, counselors, librarian, and resource teachers. Yes the school will look different but I have complete confidence it will be ok come fall.

Incorrect! More than half are classroom teachers. 17 to be exact. Yes, one taught esol this year but she was a classroom teacher before that and she was phenomenal. Another one is a math resource that my older kid had as a classroom teacher several years ago and she was also a wonderful teacher. It's a big loss no matter how you want to label it. One of the counselors has been there forever and was amazing. I suggest you put down whatever it is you are smoking.

I suggest you stop being dramatic. Everyone is replaceable in a school system. This isn’t the crisis you want to make it.

From the newsletter:

Leaving FCPS for good: 2 counselors, 2 aides, the librarian, a resource teacher, 2 classroom teachers and a reading specialist.

Total classroom teachers: 2

Changing levels within FCPS: 2 multiple disabilities teachers, 2 classroom teachers.

Total classroom teachers: 2

Changing positions within FCPS:( I’m not sure if this means leaving the school or staying on at the school)

3 classroom teachers - 1 is going to AAP, 1 is going to be the art teacher, and 1 is becoming an instructional coach. Will be interesting if she coaches certain teachers at Navy.

Total classroom teachers: 3

Transferring to another FCPS school:

5 classroom teachers (a few are following the old AP to his school), 1 SPED teacher, 1 Multiple Disabilities teacher, 1 ESOL teacher.

Total classroom teachers: 5

That makes 12 classroom teachers total leaving. How the heck did you arrive at 17?? Whole teams aren’t leaving at all.

I heard special ed was particularly hard this year and there was a destructive kid in one of the classroom teachers’ classes - no surprise that teacher is leaving. It’s no surprise which teachers are leaving the classroom either - certain teachers loved the old principal and it doesn’t make sense to stay. The new principal isn’t going to be the same as the old one.

When you break it down like this it doesn’t seems as bad.

[Anonymous]

Oh and fyi, if only 12 out of the 24 leaving are classroom teachers, then that means that the other half are not classroom teachers which is exactly what I said earlier. Half of those leaving aren’t classroom teachers, and are, in fact, counselors, aides, librarian, or sped. Yes we are losing more staff, but not as many classroom teachers as was thought.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Navy email listing all the teachers who left just went out to parent. This offical email from school

wow, looks like grapevine here was very close to the total

Not at all. A lot of the people leaving aren’t even classroom teachers. And of the ones that are leaving, only 5 are actually classroom teachers. So much for the “whole teams are leaving” lie. Lol.

Meant to add only 5 classroom teachers are actually transferring to another school. Other classroom teachers are actually moving out of FCPS or just taking a non classroom teacher position in FCPS. To me this is about not being happy with teaching in general. Not necessarily a problem with the principal. Still waiting to here legit issues with the principal.

My youngest DC graduated this year, so I don't have a strong opinion about the principal. But I will say, when one of the teachers leaving has been at the school for 20 years, and is well respected, I do think the principal must be at least partially to blame. Hopefully they figure it out over there, even if it isn't my problem anymore.

How do you explain the fact that her spouse is staying then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Navy email listing all the teachers who left just went out to parent. This offical email from school

wow, looks like grapevine here was very close to the total

Not at all. A lot of the people leaving aren’t even classroom teachers. And of the ones that are leaving, only 5 are actually classroom teachers. So much for the “whole teams are leaving” lie. Lol.

Meant to add only 5 classroom teachers are actually transferring to another school. Other classroom teachers are actually moving out of FCPS or just taking a non classroom teacher position in FCPS. To me this is about not being happy with teaching in general. Not necessarily a problem with the principal. Still waiting to here legit issues with the principal.

My youngest DC graduated this year, so I don't have a strong opinion about the principal. But I will say, when one of the teachers leaving has been at the school for 20 years, and is well respected, I do think the principal must be at least partially to blame. Hopefully they figure it out over there, even if it isn't my problem anymore.

Have you considered that it might be because she didn’t get the grade level she wanted?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Losing 24 teachers in one year is not normal at all. Teaching is hard and teachers hold on to good work environments tightly. I’m not part of this school community but considering the incessant discussion about Navy on this website this school environment has drama written all over it.

Like has been said before, it’s not unusual with a new principal. A new principal shouldn’t possibly be expected to replicate the exact same environment as a previous principal. And some of the people leaving are not even classroom teachers.

Stop saying that-every teacher/specialist keeps these schools working properly. If you are losing SPED and ESOL....art or music, etc it is a loss to a school and everyone feels that loss.

I didn’t say it wasn’t a loss - but it’s incorrect to state that 24 TEACHERS are leaving. I think classroom teaching positions are harder to fill than say a counselor or a librarian. So if people are worried about filling those spots you don’t need to be. Likewise, whole teams aren’t actually leaving as was stated. Previous posters are being dramatic to try to prove some point. At least half the number of STAFF leaving are aides, counselors, librarian, and resource teachers. Yes the school will look different but I have complete confidence it will be ok come fall.

Incorrect! More than half are classroom teachers. 17 to be exact. Yes, one taught esol this year but she was a classroom teacher before that and she was phenomenal. Another one is a math resource that my older kid had as a classroom teacher several years ago and she was also a wonderful teacher. It's a big loss no matter how you want to label it. One of the counselors has been there forever and was amazing. I suggest you put down whatever it is you are smoking.

I suggest you stop being dramatic. Everyone is replaceable in a school system. This isn’t the crisis you want to make it.

From the newsletter:

Leaving FCPS for good: 2 counselors, 2 aides, the librarian, a resource teacher, 2 classroom teachers and a reading specialist.

Total classroom teachers: 2

Changing levels within FCPS: 2 multiple disabilities teachers, 2 classroom teachers.

Total classroom teachers: 2

Changing positions within FCPS:( I’m not sure if this means leaving the school or staying on at the school)

3 classroom teachers - 1 is going to AAP, 1 is going to be the art teacher, and 1 is becoming an instructional coach. Will be interesting if she coaches certain teachers at Navy.

Total classroom teachers: 3

Transferring to another FCPS school:

5 classroom teachers (a few are following the old AP to his school), 1 SPED teacher, 1 Multiple Disabilities teacher, 1 ESOL teacher.

Total classroom teachers: 5

That makes 12 classroom teachers total leaving. How the heck did you arrive at 17?? Whole teams aren’t leaving at all.

I heard special ed was particularly hard this year and there was a destructive kid in one of the classroom teachers’ classes - no surprise that teacher is leaving. It’s no surprise which teachers are leaving the classroom either - certain teachers loved the old principal and it doesn’t make sense to stay. The new principal isn’t going to be the same as the old one.

When you break it down like this it doesn’t seems as bad.

Changing positions within FCPS: means that they are leaving the school for a different FCPS school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Losing 24 teachers in one year is not normal at all. Teaching is hard and teachers hold on to good work environments tightly. I’m not part of this school community but considering the incessant discussion about Navy on this website this school environment has drama written all over it.

Like has been said before, it’s not unusual with a new principal. A new principal shouldn’t possibly be expected to replicate the exact same environment as a previous principal. And some of the people leaving are not even classroom teachers.

Stop saying that-every teacher/specialist keeps these schools working properly. If you are losing SPED and ESOL....art or music, etc it is a loss to a school and everyone feels that loss.

I didn’t say it wasn’t a loss - but it’s incorrect to state that 24 TEACHERS are leaving. I think classroom teaching positions are harder to fill than say a counselor or a librarian. So if people are worried about filling those spots you don’t need to be. Likewise, whole teams aren’t actually leaving as was stated. Previous posters are being dramatic to try to prove some point. At least half the number of STAFF leaving are aides, counselors, librarian, and resource teachers. Yes the school will look different but I have complete confidence it will be ok come fall.

Incorrect! More than half are classroom teachers. 17 to be exact. Yes, one taught esol this year but she was a classroom teacher before that and she was phenomenal. Another one is a math resource that my older kid had as a classroom teacher several years ago and she was also a wonderful teacher. It's a big loss no matter how you want to label it. One of the counselors has been there forever and was amazing. I suggest you put down whatever it is you are smoking.

One of the counselors was only there for 2 years and is now leaving FCPS for good. The previous new counselor only lasted one year and then moved out of state at the end of they year as well. Was that because of the new principal as well?

That counselor was not that good. The other one leaving has been there for a very long time and is wonderful. Sad to see her go. Not sad for the other one at all though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Losing 24 teachers in one year is not normal at all. Teaching is hard and teachers hold on to good work environments tightly. I’m not part of this school community but considering the incessant discussion about Navy on this website this school environment has drama written all over it.

Like has been said before, it’s not unusual with a new principal. A new principal shouldn’t possibly be expected to replicate the exact same environment as a previous principal. And some of the people leaving are not even classroom teachers.

Stop saying that-every teacher/specialist keeps these schools working properly. If you are losing SPED and ESOL....art or music, etc it is a loss to a school and everyone feels that loss.

I didn’t say it wasn’t a loss - but it’s incorrect to state that 24 TEACHERS are leaving. I think classroom teaching positions are harder to fill than say a counselor or a librarian. So if people are worried about filling those spots you don’t need to be. Likewise, whole teams aren’t actually leaving as was stated. Previous posters are being dramatic to try to prove some point. At least half the number of STAFF leaving are aides, counselors, librarian, and resource teachers. Yes the school will look different but I have complete confidence it will be ok come fall.

Incorrect! More than half are classroom teachers. 17 to be exact. Yes, one taught esol this year but she was a classroom teacher before that and she was phenomenal. Another one is a math resource that my older kid had as a classroom teacher several years ago and she was also a wonderful teacher. It's a big loss no matter how you want to label it. One of the counselors has been there forever and was amazing. I suggest you put down whatever it is you are smoking.

The counselors are handling all of the behaviors in the schools and aides are needed for special ed to function. I don’t have data on how hard it is to find instructional assistants but I assume it’s as difficult as finding subs. I work at a title one with a lot of big behaviors and high turnover and we are a similar size to Navy and we only lost 13 staff members. For an AAP center school in a wealthy area to lose that many staff members at once shows that something went wrong.

Yes, what happened was the old lax principal drove drunk and fled the scene and was convicted of a DUI. So we had to get a new principal who is fresh off the boat. He is following county guidelines strictly because he himself is new and has to answer to higher ups. Most of the staff leaving for new positions within the country adored the old principal. It makes sense for them to leave since the old principal is no longer here. The old principal is who hired most of them!!!

But there are a lot of staff members on the list who are actually leaving FCPS due to actually moving or what not. I think we will really be able to tell only after another year. If this same amount leaves then, I will eat crow. My guess is it will settle down because they will all be hires from the new principal.

The boat is sinking.