Looks like a new Gaza war has started

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Anonymous wrote:I see we are still waiting for the Hamas supporters in this thread to find one of the many thousands of videos they claim exist of Israelis dragging the naked desecrated corpse of a young Palestinian woman through the streets while other Israelis cheer and spit on the body. Still waiting, I guess.

There are tens of thousands of videos of Palestinian children killed and maimed. Too many to count at this point. I guess we’ll just hear “Hamas started it” as Israel mows the grass.

Right. So find a video of Israelis doing the same thing as what today’s videos show. Apparently there are thousands of similar videos, according to you.

Look, this should be easy based on what you and other Hamas supporters in this thread claim. Unless, of course, you’re just lying.

Prove to me you are right. It should be easy for you to find a similar video of Israelis desecrating the naked corpse of a young Palestinian woman while other Israeli onlookers cheer on. You keep telling me thousands of these videos exist. So produce just one of them.

+1. Are there videos of collateral damage to civilians from Israeli attacks? Sure. I'm you can point to those. But I haven't once ever seen barbarism on display from the Israelis like you've seen in the last 24 hours by the Gazans. Feel free to correct us though if there are.

+1

There are many videos of the horrific results of rocket attacks with both Israeli and Palestinian children as innocent victims.

But I’ve never seen a video of Israelis acting with the level of barbarism and monstrosity as the Palestinians in today’s videos. I’ll never get what I saw out of my head, and I wish I could.

I have been a critic of Israel in the past, but this is far beyond anything I’ve ever seen from Israel before.

+1.

So far today, more than 250 Israelis have been killed and another 1400 injured. An untold amount of people - including many women - have been kidnapped and taken hostage by Palestinians. Anyone that saw the videos today of Palestinians desecrating and abusing the naked body of a dead Israeli women will be understandably worried about the fate of those hostages. They are likely to be tortured. Palestinians displayed a venal cruelty that is not often seen in the modern era. Those images will not be forgotten.

What Palestinians did today was to effectively commit national suicide. They will never have a viable, independent country. They are terrorists. When Gaza is destroyed in the months ahead, no one will lament their fate. They chose Hamas. They chose barbarity. They chose stupidity. And they will reap what they sowed. Idiots.

I’ve watched the video a few times trying to figure out whether it was the German tourist or not. I don’t know whether it was, but it doesn’t matter. It’s a ghastly scene that constitutes both a war crime and an exhibition of the basest forms of human behavior.

All of that said, I’m going to stop you when you use it as a rallying cry for genocide.

Countless bodies - civilian and belligerent - were desecrated by our forces and those of our allies in Afghanistan and Iraq. And then some. If you haven’t heard of the Mahmudiyah Incident, have a read: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_rape_and_killings. Even for all out war, that’s some extremely evil sht. And it was all done by a US Army soldiers.

As horrific as that incident, I think you and I are grateful that no one is calling for the indiscriminate slaughter of Americans on account of the heinous actions of five soldiers. Or for those of William Laws Calley Jr. at My Lai and so on and so on.

Thugs that celebrate killing and the desecration of bodies deserve nothing less than that, but they are not all Gazans let alone all Palestinians.

I don’t remember celebrations by Americans all over the nation re: Mahmudiya rape and killings.

Plenty celebrated the outbreak of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, just as Palestinians are celebrating this incursion. If you have reason to believe that Palestinians all over are celebrating this desecration, please share because I have a hard time understanding why you would think that.

Oh yeah, we were all running around in the streets, firing our AKs…and there was absolutely no public discourse disagreeing with the wars. None.

And all the video of the Palestinians today is small children in Gaza peacefully weaving flower crowns and talking about peace and coexistence…

Are Palestinians under some obligation to talk about peace or condemn the attacks? No. Israel is the occupying power in violation of international law for 70+ years.

You delusional people think Palestinians are supposed to resist Israel in a way that is comfortable for you. That’s not how it works, child.

[Anonymous]

Bill Ackman is right...

In 2012, Barack Obama set a red line with Syria on the use of chemical weapons. A year later, Assad gassed and killed 1,400 non-combatants. We did nothing.

In 2014, Putin invaded Crimea. We did nothing.

In September 2021, we abandoned Afghanistan in a sloppy withdrawal leading to the collapse of the country, handing our weapons and control to the Taliban.

In Feb. 2022, Putin invaded Ukraine. Since that time, we have slow-walked our military support for Ukraine, failing to give them the armaments they need to win the war. In our most recent budget debt crisis, we took
Ukraine out of the budget to keep the government temporarily open.

If Russia wins the war, we are handing control of the world’s bread basket to Russia, and Putin’s power and aspirations will only grow.

On September 18th, we agreed to release $6 billion to Iran, but ‘only for humanitarian purposes’ in exchange for five Americans. I remind us all that money is fungible. $6 billion for food and medical supplies frees up $6 billion Iran can use for terrorism and war. And I thought we had a policy of not negotiating with terrorists.

Why did Hamas invade Israel last night? Because the United States has consistently not kept its word on its foreign policy commitments and we look very weak.

Terrorism loves a leadership vacuum and we have created one.

We are politically divided. Our president is physically and cognitively challenged. And we are wavering on the commitment we made to Ukraine to give them the weapons they need to win the war.

The world has become a much more dangerous place because we have not kept our word.

This needs to stop now or, dare I say, hell is coming. The world is a much safer place when the US leads, and it quickly can become a living hell when we fail to do so.

Now is the time for our government and Congress to show strength, solidarity and leadership and to follow through on our commitments to our allies and the world order.

We owe nothing less to our children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I see we are still waiting for the Hamas supporters in this thread to find one of the many thousands of videos they claim exist of Israelis dragging the naked desecrated corpse of a young Palestinian woman through the streets while other Israelis cheer and spit on the body. Still waiting, I guess.

There are tens of thousands of videos of Palestinian children killed and maimed. Too many to count at this point. I guess we’ll just hear “Hamas started it” as Israel mows the grass.

Right. So find a video of Israelis doing the same thing as what today’s videos show. Apparently there are thousands of similar videos, according to you.

Look, this should be easy based on what you and other Hamas supporters in this thread claim. Unless, of course, you’re just lying.

Prove to me you are right. It should be easy for you to find a similar video of Israelis desecrating the naked corpse of a young Palestinian woman while other Israeli onlookers cheer on. You keep telling me thousands of these videos exist. So produce just one of them.

+1. Are there videos of collateral damage to civilians from Israeli attacks? Sure. I'm you can point to those. But I haven't once ever seen barbarism on display from the Israelis like you've seen in the last 24 hours by the Gazans. Feel free to correct us though if there are.

+1

There are many videos of the horrific results of rocket attacks with both Israeli and Palestinian children as innocent victims.

But I’ve never seen a video of Israelis acting with the level of barbarism and monstrosity as the Palestinians in today’s videos. I’ll never get what I saw out of my head, and I wish I could.

I have been a critic of Israel in the past, but this is far beyond anything I’ve ever seen from Israel before.

+1.

So far today, more than 250 Israelis have been killed and another 1400 injured. An untold amount of people - including many women - have been kidnapped and taken hostage by Palestinians. Anyone that saw the videos today of Palestinians desecrating and abusing the naked body of a dead Israeli women will be understandably worried about the fate of those hostages. They are likely to be tortured. Palestinians displayed a venal cruelty that is not often seen in the modern era. Those images will not be forgotten.

What Palestinians did today was to effectively commit national suicide. They will never have a viable, independent country. They are terrorists. When Gaza is destroyed in the months ahead, no one will lament their fate. They chose Hamas. They chose barbarity. They chose stupidity. And they will reap what they sowed. Idiots.

I’ve watched the video a few times trying to figure out whether it was the German tourist or not. I don’t know whether it was, but it doesn’t matter. It’s a ghastly scene that constitutes both a war crime and an exhibition of the basest forms of human behavior.

All of that said, I’m going to stop you when you use it as a rallying cry for genocide.

Countless bodies - civilian and belligerent - were desecrated by our forces and those of our allies in Afghanistan and Iraq. And then some. If you haven’t heard of the Mahmudiyah Incident, have a read: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_rape_and_killings. Even for all out war, that’s some extremely evil sht. And it was all done by a US Army soldiers.

As horrific as that incident, I think you and I are grateful that no one is calling for the indiscriminate slaughter of Americans on account of the heinous actions of five soldiers. Or for those of William Laws Calley Jr. at My Lai and so on and so on.

Thugs that celebrate killing and the desecration of bodies deserve nothing less than that, but they are not all Gazans let alone all Palestinians.

Dear Lord. How can you be so profoundly ignorant of the many, many, many leaders, ordinary citizens, television anchors, media personalities, military generals, and others worldwide calling for the death of all Americans? The bolded is shockingly ignorant.

What kind of delusional, hippy-dippy world are you living in? What you wrote bears literally no relation to reality whatsoever.

Midland, TX was the birthplace of Steven Dale Green, who raped and killed a 14 year old Iraqi girl and then killed the rest of her family and then burned all of their bodies.

Ami don’t know of any reasonable person who would want to hold the residents of Midland, TX responsible for producing such a monster.

Yet you watch a video of a handful of scumbags in Gaza acting despicably and think it fit to lay waste to the entire Palestinian people.

I know you will want to say that the Palestinians embrace these scumbags, even when the evidence for that is slight. But how tough are we on our own war criminals, really? Lt. Calley was pardoned. I believe our last president also pardoned someone convicted of desecrating a corpse.

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Anonymous wrote:Is our reaction to this supposed to be different from reaction to Ukraine war?

Yes. Democrats won't want to fund this war and Republicans will.

Moderate democrats will - and should - stand with israel. Unless the squad has them by the balls.

America cannot let Israel fall.

It won’t. It’s a strategic partner in defense, intel, technology, etc

America can’t save Israel forever. But please, we should definitely send israel $7000 gorillion more tax $$$s so they don’t get destroyed by 4 dozen men with aks and homemade explosives. Y’all are pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:I see we are still waiting for the Hamas supporters in this thread to find one of the many thousands of videos they claim exist of Israelis dragging the naked desecrated corpse of a young Palestinian woman through the streets while other Israelis cheer and spit on the body. Still waiting, I guess.

There are tens of thousands of videos of Palestinian children killed and maimed. Too many to count at this point. I guess we’ll just hear “Hamas started it” as Israel mows the grass.

Right. So find a video of Israelis doing the same thing as what today’s videos show. Apparently there are thousands of similar videos, according to you.

Look, this should be easy based on what you and other Hamas supporters in this thread claim. Unless, of course, you’re just lying.

Prove to me you are right. It should be easy for you to find a similar video of Israelis desecrating the naked corpse of a young Palestinian woman while other Israeli onlookers cheer on. You keep telling me thousands of these videos exist. So produce just one of them.

+1. Are there videos of collateral damage to civilians from Israeli attacks? Sure. I'm you can point to those. But I haven't once ever seen barbarism on display from the Israelis like you've seen in the last 24 hours by the Gazans. Feel free to correct us though if there are.

+1

There are many videos of the horrific results of rocket attacks with both Israeli and Palestinian children as innocent victims.

But I’ve never seen a video of Israelis acting with the level of barbarism and monstrosity as the Palestinians in today’s videos. I’ll never get what I saw out of my head, and I wish I could.

I have been a critic of Israel in the past, but this is far beyond anything I’ve ever seen from Israel before.

+1.

So far today, more than 250 Israelis have been killed and another 1400 injured. An untold amount of people - including many women - have been kidnapped and taken hostage by Palestinians. Anyone that saw the videos today of Palestinians desecrating and abusing the naked body of a dead Israeli women will be understandably worried about the fate of those hostages. They are likely to be tortured. Palestinians displayed a venal cruelty that is not often seen in the modern era. Those images will not be forgotten.

What Palestinians did today was to effectively commit national suicide. They will never have a viable, independent country. They are terrorists. When Gaza is destroyed in the months ahead, no one will lament their fate. They chose Hamas. They chose barbarity. They chose stupidity. And they will reap what they sowed. Idiots.

I’ve watched the video a few times trying to figure out whether it was the German tourist or not. I don’t know whether it was, but it doesn’t matter. It’s a ghastly scene that constitutes both a war crime and an exhibition of the basest forms of human behavior.

All of that said, I’m going to stop you when you use it as a rallying cry for genocide.

Countless bodies - civilian and belligerent - were desecrated by our forces and those of our allies in Afghanistan and Iraq. And then some. If you haven’t heard of the Mahmudiyah Incident, have a read: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_rape_and_killings. Even for all out war, that’s some extremely evil sht. And it was all done by a US Army soldiers.

As horrific as that incident, I think you and I are grateful that no one is calling for the indiscriminate slaughter of Americans on account of the heinous actions of five soldiers. Or for those of William Laws Calley Jr. at My Lai and so on and so on.

Thugs that celebrate killing and the desecration of bodies deserve nothing less than that, but they are not all Gazans let alone all Palestinians.

I don’t remember celebrations by Americans all over the nation re: Mahmudiya rape and killings.

Plenty celebrated the outbreak of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, just as Palestinians are celebrating this incursion. If you have reason to believe that Palestinians all over are celebrating this desecration, please share because I have a hard time understanding why you would think that.

Oh yeah, we were all running around in the streets, firing our AKs…and there was absolutely no public discourse disagreeing with the wars. None.

And all the video of the Palestinians today is small children in Gaza peacefully weaving flower crowns and talking about peace and coexistence…

Are Palestinians under some obligation to talk about peace or condemn the attacks? No. Israel is the occupying power in violation of international law for 70+ years.

You delusional people think Palestinians are supposed to resist Israel in a way that is comfortable for you. That’s not how it works, child.

Child, you need to listen to what the Palestinians have wanted all along: the annihilation of Israel.

Though, I suppose you’d be one ironing your brown shirt on the eve of kristallnacht.

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Anonymous wrote:I see we are still waiting for the Hamas supporters in this thread to find one of the many thousands of videos they claim exist of Israelis dragging the naked desecrated corpse of a young Palestinian woman through the streets while other Israelis cheer and spit on the body. Still waiting, I guess.

There are tens of thousands of videos of Palestinian children killed and maimed. Too many to count at this point. I guess we’ll just hear “Hamas started it” as Israel mows the grass.

Right. So find a video of Israelis doing the same thing as what today’s videos show. Apparently there are thousands of similar videos, according to you.

Look, this should be easy based on what you and other Hamas supporters in this thread claim. Unless, of course, you’re just lying.

Prove to me you are right. It should be easy for you to find a similar video of Israelis desecrating the naked corpse of a young Palestinian woman while other Israeli onlookers cheer on. You keep telling me thousands of these videos exist. So produce just one of them.

+1. Are there videos of collateral damage to civilians from Israeli attacks? Sure. I'm you can point to those. But I haven't once ever seen barbarism on display from the Israelis like you've seen in the last 24 hours by the Gazans. Feel free to correct us though if there are.

+1

There are many videos of the horrific results of rocket attacks with both Israeli and Palestinian children as innocent victims.

But I’ve never seen a video of Israelis acting with the level of barbarism and monstrosity as the Palestinians in today’s videos. I’ll never get what I saw out of my head, and I wish I could.

I have been a critic of Israel in the past, but this is far beyond anything I’ve ever seen from Israel before.

+1.

So far today, more than 250 Israelis have been killed and another 1400 injured. An untold amount of people - including many women - have been kidnapped and taken hostage by Palestinians. Anyone that saw the videos today of Palestinians desecrating and abusing the naked body of a dead Israeli women will be understandably worried about the fate of those hostages. They are likely to be tortured. Palestinians displayed a venal cruelty that is not often seen in the modern era. Those images will not be forgotten.

What Palestinians did today was to effectively commit national suicide. They will never have a viable, independent country. They are terrorists. When Gaza is destroyed in the months ahead, no one will lament their fate. They chose Hamas. They chose barbarity. They chose stupidity. And they will reap what they sowed. Idiots.

I’ve watched the video a few times trying to figure out whether it was the German tourist or not. I don’t know whether it was, but it doesn’t matter. It’s a ghastly scene that constitutes both a war crime and an exhibition of the basest forms of human behavior.

All of that said, I’m going to stop you when you use it as a rallying cry for genocide.

Countless bodies - civilian and belligerent - were desecrated by our forces and those of our allies in Afghanistan and Iraq. And then some. If you haven’t heard of the Mahmudiyah Incident, have a read: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_rape_and_killings. Even for all out war, that’s some extremely evil sht. And it was all done by a US Army soldiers.

As horrific as that incident, I think you and I are grateful that no one is calling for the indiscriminate slaughter of Americans on account of the heinous actions of five soldiers. Or for those of William Laws Calley Jr. at My Lai and so on and so on.

Thugs that celebrate killing and the desecration of bodies deserve nothing less than that, but they are not all Gazans let alone all Palestinians.

I don’t remember celebrations by Americans all over the nation re: Mahmudiya rape and killings.

Plenty celebrated the outbreak of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, just as Palestinians are celebrating this incursion. If you have reason to believe that Palestinians all over are celebrating this desecration, please share because I have a hard time understanding why you would think that.

Oh yeah, we were all running around in the streets, firing our AKs…and there was absolutely no public discourse disagreeing with the wars. None.

And all the video of the Palestinians today is small children in Gaza peacefully weaving flower crowns and talking about peace and coexistence…

Are Palestinians under some obligation to talk about peace or condemn the attacks? No. Israel is the occupying power in violation of international law for 70+ years.

You delusional people think Palestinians are supposed to resist Israel in a way that is comfortable for you. That’s not how it works, child.

I think it’s weird to assume Palestinians are a monolithic group who support Hamas.

I think many Palestinians are tired of suffering because Hamas won’t let go of its religious extremism and can’t get over land battles. I bet many Palestinians just want to focus on the future rather than fighting over the past (read: land).

Now hamas has started a war and innocent Palestinians who don’t support them will suffer. That’s sad.

[Anonymous]

Remind me why I'm supposed to care about Israel? We have enough of our own problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bill Ackman is right...

In 2012, Barack Obama set a red line with Syria on the use of chemical weapons. A year later, Assad gassed and killed 1,400 non-combatants. We did nothing.

In 2014, Putin invaded Crimea. We did nothing.

In September 2021, we abandoned Afghanistan in a sloppy withdrawal leading to the collapse of the country, handing our weapons and control to the Taliban.

In Feb. 2022, Putin invaded Ukraine. Since that time, we have slow-walked our military support for Ukraine, failing to give them the armaments they need to win the war. In our most recent budget debt crisis, we took
Ukraine out of the budget to keep the government temporarily open.

If Russia wins the war, we are handing control of the world’s bread basket to Russia, and Putin’s power and aspirations will only grow.

On September 18th, we agreed to release $6 billion to Iran, but ‘only for humanitarian purposes’ in exchange for five Americans. I remind us all that money is fungible. $6 billion for food and medical supplies frees up $6 billion Iran can use for terrorism and war. And I thought we had a policy of not negotiating with terrorists.

Why did Hamas invade Israel last night? Because the United States has consistently not kept its word on its foreign policy commitments and we look very weak.

Terrorism loves a leadership vacuum and we have created one.

We are politically divided. Our president is physically and cognitively challenged. And we are wavering on the commitment we made to Ukraine to give them the weapons they need to win the war.

The world has become a much more dangerous place because we have not kept our word.

This needs to stop now or, dare I say, hell is coming. The world is a much safer place when the US leads, and it quickly can become a living hell when we fail to do so.

Now is the time for our government and Congress to show strength, solidarity and leadership and to follow through on our commitments to our allies and the world order.

We owe nothing less to our children.

Nonsense. Stop talking. Go find something productive to do. You don’t know your ass from your elbow.

There is no conclusive evidence that Assad gassed his own people in 2013. 0. US intelligence informed Obama it’s not clear it was Assad. Idiot. You need to be deported to Israel, stripped of US citizenship and conscripted into the IDF. Get out of my country.

[Anonymous]

To be clear, Israeli settlers should be lynched and dragged through the streets. When israel decides to end its illegal occupation and colonial project then Israelis will have a legitimate right to defend themselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I see we are still waiting for the Hamas supporters in this thread to find one of the many thousands of videos they claim exist of Israelis dragging the naked desecrated corpse of a young Palestinian woman through the streets while other Israelis cheer and spit on the body. Still waiting, I guess.

There are tens of thousands of videos of Palestinian children killed and maimed. Too many to count at this point. I guess we’ll just hear “Hamas started it” as Israel mows the grass.

Right. So find a video of Israelis doing the same thing as what today’s videos show. Apparently there are thousands of similar videos, according to you.

Look, this should be easy based on what you and other Hamas supporters in this thread claim. Unless, of course, you’re just lying.

Prove to me you are right. It should be easy for you to find a similar video of Israelis desecrating the naked corpse of a young Palestinian woman while other Israeli onlookers cheer on. You keep telling me thousands of these videos exist. So produce just one of them.

+1. Are there videos of collateral damage to civilians from Israeli attacks? Sure. I'm you can point to those. But I haven't once ever seen barbarism on display from the Israelis like you've seen in the last 24 hours by the Gazans. Feel free to correct us though if there are.

+1

There are many videos of the horrific results of rocket attacks with both Israeli and Palestinian children as innocent victims.

But I’ve never seen a video of Israelis acting with the level of barbarism and monstrosity as the Palestinians in today’s videos. I’ll never get what I saw out of my head, and I wish I could.

I have been a critic of Israel in the past, but this is far beyond anything I’ve ever seen from Israel before.

+1.

So far today, more than 250 Israelis have been killed and another 1400 injured. An untold amount of people - including many women - have been kidnapped and taken hostage by Palestinians. Anyone that saw the videos today of Palestinians desecrating and abusing the naked body of a dead Israeli women will be understandably worried about the fate of those hostages. They are likely to be tortured. Palestinians displayed a venal cruelty that is not often seen in the modern era. Those images will not be forgotten.

What Palestinians did today was to effectively commit national suicide. They will never have a viable, independent country. They are terrorists. When Gaza is destroyed in the months ahead, no one will lament their fate. They chose Hamas. They chose barbarity. They chose stupidity. And they will reap what they sowed. Idiots.

I’ve watched the video a few times trying to figure out whether it was the German tourist or not. I don’t know whether it was, but it doesn’t matter. It’s a ghastly scene that constitutes both a war crime and an exhibition of the basest forms of human behavior.

All of that said, I’m going to stop you when you use it as a rallying cry for genocide.

Countless bodies - civilian and belligerent - were desecrated by our forces and those of our allies in Afghanistan and Iraq. And then some. If you haven’t heard of the Mahmudiyah Incident, have a read: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_rape_and_killings. Even for all out war, that’s some extremely evil sht. And it was all done by a US Army soldiers.

As horrific as that incident, I think you and I are grateful that no one is calling for the indiscriminate slaughter of Americans on account of the heinous actions of five soldiers. Or for those of William Laws Calley Jr. at My Lai and so on and so on.

Thugs that celebrate killing and the desecration of bodies deserve nothing less than that, but they are not all Gazans let alone all Palestinians.

I don’t remember celebrations by Americans all over the nation re: Mahmudiya rape and killings.

Plenty celebrated the outbreak of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, just as Palestinians are celebrating this incursion. If you have reason to believe that Palestinians all over are celebrating this desecration, please share because I have a hard time understanding why you would think that.

Oh yeah, we were all running around in the streets, firing our AKs…and there was absolutely no public discourse disagreeing with the wars. None.

And all the video of the Palestinians today is small children in Gaza peacefully weaving flower crowns and talking about peace and coexistence…

Hamas doesn’t exactly encourage public discourse and talk of peace and coexistence. See here for instance: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-60173481.amp. The very obvious point being that short clips on Twitter give you almost no insight whatsoever into what the people of Gaza really want. So please stop condemning them for having the misfortune to be born into one of the most godforsaken places on the earth and few feasible options to ever get out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Leon Panetta on cnn just now said over-reliance on technology intelligence allowed Hamas to avoid detection. The intelligence system in Israel failed, and human intelligence is needed.

No question that Israel will take action, particularly given the hostages taken. This will be a prolonged war.

Re: US role - our special relationship will likely prompt intelligence and military support. It will be a complicated effort.

Re: history - going back to 1948, we’ve had 7 decades of war and failed efforts for peace. This last year brought increased tension. Hamas took a dramatic step nobody saw coming. It’s a wake up call to hamas as well as Iran, hezbollah, etc.

Leon Panetta? He hasn't been in the government in 10 years. And gee whiz, I wonder why Israel doesn't just send a bunch of agents into Gaza. I can't imagine why that sort of thing would be difficult. And yeah, it's pretty obvious that this was an intelligence failure.

If Panetta actually used the term special relationship then he ought to hang it up. Despite cooperation on defense and intelligence, there's only one of those and it's not with Israel.

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Anonymous wrote:I see we are still waiting for the Hamas supporters in this thread to find one of the many thousands of videos they claim exist of Israelis dragging the naked desecrated corpse of a young Palestinian woman through the streets while other Israelis cheer and spit on the body. Still waiting, I guess.

There are tens of thousands of videos of Palestinian children killed and maimed. Too many to count at this point. I guess we’ll just hear “Hamas started it” as Israel mows the grass.

Right. So find a video of Israelis doing the same thing as what today’s videos show. Apparently there are thousands of similar videos, according to you.

Look, this should be easy based on what you and other Hamas supporters in this thread claim. Unless, of course, you’re just lying.

Prove to me you are right. It should be easy for you to find a similar video of Israelis desecrating the naked corpse of a young Palestinian woman while other Israeli onlookers cheer on. You keep telling me thousands of these videos exist. So produce just one of them.

+1. Are there videos of collateral damage to civilians from Israeli attacks? Sure. I'm you can point to those. But I haven't once ever seen barbarism on display from the Israelis like you've seen in the last 24 hours by the Gazans. Feel free to correct us though if there are.

+1

There are many videos of the horrific results of rocket attacks with both Israeli and Palestinian children as innocent victims.

But I’ve never seen a video of Israelis acting with the level of barbarism and monstrosity as the Palestinians in today’s videos. I’ll never get what I saw out of my head, and I wish I could.

I have been a critic of Israel in the past, but this is far beyond anything I’ve ever seen from Israel before.

+1.

So far today, more than 250 Israelis have been killed and another 1400 injured. An untold amount of people - including many women - have been kidnapped and taken hostage by Palestinians. Anyone that saw the videos today of Palestinians desecrating and abusing the naked body of a dead Israeli women will be understandably worried about the fate of those hostages. They are likely to be tortured. Palestinians displayed a venal cruelty that is not often seen in the modern era. Those images will not be forgotten.

What Palestinians did today was to effectively commit national suicide. They will never have a viable, independent country. They are terrorists. When Gaza is destroyed in the months ahead, no one will lament their fate. They chose Hamas. They chose barbarity. They chose stupidity. And they will reap what they sowed. Idiots.

I’ve watched the video a few times trying to figure out whether it was the German tourist or not. I don’t know whether it was, but it doesn’t matter. It’s a ghastly scene that constitutes both a war crime and an exhibition of the basest forms of human behavior.

All of that said, I’m going to stop you when you use it as a rallying cry for genocide.

Countless bodies - civilian and belligerent - were desecrated by our forces and those of our allies in Afghanistan and Iraq. And then some. If you haven’t heard of the Mahmudiyah Incident, have a read: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_rape_and_killings. Even for all out war, that’s some extremely evil sht. And it was all done by a US Army soldiers.

As horrific as that incident, I think you and I are grateful that no one is calling for the indiscriminate slaughter of Americans on account of the heinous actions of five soldiers. Or for those of William Laws Calley Jr. at My Lai and so on and so on.

Thugs that celebrate killing and the desecration of bodies deserve nothing less than that, but they are not all Gazans let alone all Palestinians.

I don’t remember celebrations by Americans all over the nation re: Mahmudiya rape and killings.

Americans are not living under brutal military occupation, desperate for a win at any cost to avenge their dispossession, Israeli apartheid, and death and disfigurement of generations of youth.

Desperation is ugly. I blame the people who made all Palestinian civilians this desperate as much as I blame the madmen who carried out these attacks.

We have to internalize our role in this situation.

You are disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.

I think israeli government actions are disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.

This is a kidnapped Israeli child in Gaza being passed around for Palestinian kids to bully.

The adults responsible deserve what's coming for them.

https://t.co/poikILZ3uh

Avi Yemini

https://twitter.com/OzraeliAvi/status/1710778299264487877

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People who don’t know what “fungible” means need to stop using it. Funds allocated for humanitarian purposes can only free up spending for military purposes if the respective government was previously funding those humanitarian purposes. Fungibility is not a novel concept discovered by some rando on Twitter. The US govt knows how to do this without freeing up funds for shit it doesn’t want funded.

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Anonymous wrote:Remind me why I'm supposed to care about Israel? We have enough of our own problems.

No one cares if you don’t care.

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We did allow Iran access to it own money. That definitely happened under Biden. So yes, Iran freed up it own money to fun Terrorism. Joe and the A team are not smart people

The money in question was deposited in Qatar and has not been touched by Iran. Moreover, if you think the operation was funded in the last month, you are dreaming.

Can you prove that?

Facts from Fox News reporter https://twitter.com/JenGriffinFNC/status/1710735779834593355

Regarding the $6 billion: I spoke to several senior officials who were involved in the unfreezing of the $6 billion to Iran in exchange for 5 US prisoners, some of whom worked under the Trump Administration and are still serving…
Those who are saying that this $6 billion that was part of the American hostage release negotiated by the Biden administration likely fueled the Hamas invasion are missing some key facts….None of the money has been spent yet. It remains in a Qatari bank under US Treasury watch.
The $6 billion was Iranian money for oil sales that was held in a South Korean bank, not U.S. taxpayer money. Under the Trump administration 4 banks worldwide were allowed to hold money from Iranian oil sales to 4 countries, including India, South Korea, and Turkey….
Under the Trump Admin deal that preceded Biden hostage deal, Iran could draw on that money for humanitarian purchases that had to be verified by the US Treasury. The money sat in a S Korean bank because it was held in South Korean won and no international banks would convert would convert the won to dollars for fear of sanctions violations. This was NOT US taxpayer money.

What is there to condemn?

Do I endorse what Hamas is doing? No. Do I understand why? Yes. Do I have sympathy for Israelis? Absolutely not.

What you saw today was nothing. You saw some videos of Israelis experiencing a taste of what Palestinians have experienced for the last 70 years. The viral videos don’t phase me. You people need a reality check. She was raving in front of the apartheid fence. I have 0 sympathy for that nonsense.

So you are pro-pedophile and gang-rape, I think we all feel sorry for the women in your life. Sicko.