Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic

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Anonymous wrote:Why are you people picking on the fact that they were rich? I don’t understand how it’s relevant.


It’s wrong to pick on them though I do think it’s relevant. Bring rich gives people access to do some risky things that make them feel special: Private planes, trips into space, race cars, the depths of the sea…and they do a lot of these things without the knowledge or respect for the seriousness of the adventures.

I’m married to a not rich pilot. I can tell you I would never fly in a private plane and I would never think I could fly myself to my cousins wedding at night. Because I understand the training needed and how important is. Their confidence and money sometimes kill them.


The rich people are the reason this trip could take place, which was not just a sightseeing tour, it’s other purpose is to monitor the titanic site from a preservation and identification perspective.

BS. The wreck has been down there for over a century. What “preservation and identification” needs to be done now?


It's disintegrating. Soon it will be gone, by 2030 according to one estimate.

https://www.businessinsider.com/titanic-shipwreck-disappearing-dive-reveals-2019-9


So what? Why do people need to go down to the bottom of the ocean in a submarine? It can be documented with machines ie the ones seen in the titanic movie.

Additionally, it’s a shipwreck from 110 years ago. Why does it need be revisited at this point?


Why do people insist on visiting those pesky pyramids? Extremely dangerous in Egypt.

Why do all those people go to Israel to visit those sites, don’t they know how dangerous it is on that plot of land?


+ a million

How many people died visiting the pyramids in the past year?


How many have died visiting the titanic in the past year? Now that banging has been heard in the area, all those posters who swore up and down they were dead and the vehicle imploded are looking mighty foolish!



How is anyone looking foolish? “Swore up and down”!? People can say anything. Declare it even. You do know that Nobody knows, right? It’s all guesses at this point.
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More crab fisherman have died in the past 10 years than tourists visiting the titanic.
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I cannot believe people here are comparing visiting Israel/Egypt (where millions of people live normal lives) with going down to the bottom of the ocean in essentially a tin can.
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Anonymous wrote:More crab fisherman have died in the past 10 years than tourists visiting the titanic.


How many crab fisherman are there compared to how many have died in the past 10 years vs how many tourists have ever visited the titanic in a submarine? You have to compare the rates of death.

And as an aside. The crab industry has literally been decimated. A NOAA survey showed an 80% decline in Bering Sea snow crab, from 11.7 billion in 2018 to 1.9 billion in 2022.
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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe people here are comparing visiting Israel/Egypt (where millions of people live normal lives) with going down to the bottom of the ocean in essentially a tin can.


This thread has lost the plot. I tried to read the last 5 pages and it’s hysterical moms claiming they’d leave their husband if their adult son went on this trip and one woman getting mad anyone points out the irony of rich people paying to die at sea seeing a ship where people died at sea.
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I hope they find them alive.

This is not an evaluation of how they got into this situation or the effects of searching for them.

I may not be probable, but I hope so.
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Anonymous wrote:More crab fisherman have died in the past 10 years than tourists visiting the titanic.


How many crab fisherman are there compared to how many have died in the past 10 years vs how many tourists have ever visited the titanic in a submarine? You have to compare the rates of death.

And as an aside. The crab industry has literally been decimated. A NOAA survey showed an 80% decline in Bering Sea snow crab, from 11.7 billion in 2018 to 1.9 billion in 2022.


It's not necessary to eat crab.
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Anonymous wrote:More crab fisherman have died in the past 10 years than tourists visiting the titanic.


How many crab fisherman are there compared to how many have died in the past 10 years vs how many tourists have ever visited the titanic in a submarine? You have to compare the rates of death.

And as an aside. The crab industry has literally been decimated. A NOAA survey showed an 80% decline in Bering Sea snow crab, from 11.7 billion in 2018 to 1.9 billion in 2022.


It's not necessary to eat crab.

It’s even less necessary to visit the Titanic.
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Anonymous wrote:More crab fisherman have died in the past 10 years than tourists visiting the titanic.


How many crab fisherman are there compared to how many have died in the past 10 years vs how many tourists have ever visited the titanic in a submarine? You have to compare the rates of death.

And as an aside. The crab industry has literally been decimated. A NOAA survey showed an 80% decline in Bering Sea snow crab, from 11.7 billion in 2018 to 1.9 billion in 2022.


It's not necessary to eat crab.

It’s even less necessary to visit the Titanic.


I would say it's roughly the same. The only reason to visit the Titanic or eat King crab legs is because you want to do it.
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‘It was not, as some people say, a reckless endeavor by a bunch of one percenters who just wanted to run off and waste their money and endanger their lives and other people,” Hagen tells PEOPLE…

OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush, who is also reportedly aboard the missing submersible, created the Titan “in order to explore the deepest depths” of the ocean, Hagen says.

“He wanted to democratize the sea and open it up to individuals,” Hagen tells PEOPLE, noting that the vessel was not a tourist sub, as some reports have claimed.‘


https://people.com/man-who-has-been-on-titanic-sub-calls-it-majestic-but-risky-7550564


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Anonymous wrote:Banging sounds heard are on most new outlets now.
Praying for a miracle.


Could it possibly be from the vessel at the surface? That’s like their only hope


I was thinking the same thing.


I’m reading that the noise they heard could be closer to surface. So maybe there is hope.
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I hope they are still alive and can be saved, but I don’t see what non-catastrophic event lead to them being both unable to communicate and resurface (given multiple redundancies built in for that purpose), when they hadn’t even reached the Titanic.
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Anonymous wrote:More crab fisherman have died in the past 10 years than tourists visiting the titanic.


How many crab fisherman are there compared to how many have died in the past 10 years vs how many tourists have ever visited the titanic in a submarine? You have to compare the rates of death.

And as an aside. The crab industry has literally been decimated. A NOAA survey showed an 80% decline in Bering Sea snow crab, from 11.7 billion in 2018 to 1.9 billion in 2022.


It's not necessary to eat crab.

It’s even less necessary to visit the Titanic.


I would say it's roughly the same. The only reason to visit the Titanic or eat King crab legs is because you want to do it.


Crab fisherman are free agents. It’s not indentured servitude.
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Anonymous wrote:Banging sounds heard are on most new outlets now.
Praying for a miracle.


Could it possibly be from the vessel at the surface? That’s like their only hope


I was thinking the same thing.


I’m reading that the noise they heard could be closer to surface. So maybe there is hope.


I mean, it’s either going to surface or sink right? It’s not going to float around underwater in no-man’s land.
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I hope they're found ok, and I hope they're found liable for every penny spent by anyone to rescue them.
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