Epstein Files

[Anonymous]

Release the Epstein Files and the only names that should be redacted are the girls who were abused. All the men should be exposed regardless of citizenship, job, title, or political affiliation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Johnson saying he won't block an Epstein vote, which makes me think they bought someone off. Sad.

I guess the shutdown will end now. I mean that was the whole point, right? Buying more time to threaten someone enough to get them to cave.

Nah sounds like they’ve redacted enough to only expose Democrats.

[Anonymous]

A few pages back someone asked if a poster had prosecutorial experience. I do, and I was specially trained on sexual assault prosecution and handled more than a few such cases. I call BS on Acosta’s assessment of the case, not least because I’ve followed the reporting closely and it is universally acknowledged that Acosta never met with any of the victims and never even read their statements. He is misrepresenting the assessment of the line prosecutors in his office were ready to move the case forward.

All prosecutors know that sexual assault cases have the lowest conviction rate, it IS a crap shoot no matter the strength of the evidence because jurors bring ugly biases to these cases that are part of our societal sickness regarding crimes against women and children, who are the primary victims of sexual assault. They also disbelieve male children when they testify about sexual assault. Diddy’s case is one recent example but there are many others. SA cases have only a 50% conviction rate and only 1% of cases ever go to trial. It’s awful. As a society, we essentially condone the sexual exploitation of women and children.

And yes, I have zero doubt that there are men from all along the political spectrum in those files and that we will all be dismayed if we ever get to see them. As a prosecutor I lost all my remaining illusions about people when I saw the kinds of upstanding citizens grandpas who were molesting and raping their own granddaughters and how communities would rally around such people and vilify the victims because most people DON’T REALLY WANT TO KNOW.

Anytime I had a SA case, I would have a brutal heart to heart with the victim. I would tell them the odds and the reasons for them. I would tell them that the trial process would be like being raped again even if I did my very best to enforce all rules of procedure designed to protect victims. I would promise to fight like hell and always have their backs, win or lose. And I would ask them to go home and think about it, talk to their family, their therapist, their confidants and then come back and give me my orders and I would follow them as they wished.

I don’t believe that all the victims refused to cooperate - they weren’t even given the option if you believe what they are saying now about how it all went down - and I for one DO believe them. They were sold out because at very least, Acosta is the kind of man (like SOOOOOO many men) who believes teen girls want it and are lying when they say they don’t. Especially poor white trash teen girls.

I suspect there is some truth to the conspiracy theories about next level dealings, possibly including intelligence assets, in the Epstein trafficking scheme. But even if not, it’s very much like the sexual abuse scandals of the Catholic Church, the Southern Baptist Convention, the Boy Scouts of America, etc. There are a LOT of predators in our midst, some of them are in our own families, and predators cover for other predators because they don’t want it coming home to roost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Johnson saying he won't block an Epstein vote, which makes me think they bought someone off. Sad.

I guess the shutdown will end now. I mean that was the whole point, right? Buying more time to threaten someone enough to get them to cave.

Nah sounds like they’ve redacted enough to only expose Democrats.

If there were big Democrats to be exposed they would have already released the files.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A few pages back someone asked if a poster had prosecutorial experience. I do, and I was specially trained on sexual assault prosecution and handled more than a few such cases. I call BS on Acosta’s assessment of the case, not least because I’ve followed the reporting closely and it is universally acknowledged that Acosta never met with any of the victims and never even read their statements. He is misrepresenting the assessment of the line prosecutors in his office were ready to move the case forward.

All prosecutors know that sexual assault cases have the lowest conviction rate, it IS a crap shoot no matter the strength of the evidence because jurors bring ugly biases to these cases that are part of our societal sickness regarding crimes against women and children, who are the primary victims of sexual assault. They also disbelieve male children when they testify about sexual assault. Diddy’s case is one recent example but there are many others. SA cases have only a 50% conviction rate and only 1% of cases ever go to trial. It’s awful. As a society, we essentially condone the sexual exploitation of women and children.

And yes, I have zero doubt that there are men from all along the political spectrum in those files and that we will all be dismayed if we ever get to see them. As a prosecutor I lost all my remaining illusions about people when I saw the kinds of upstanding citizens grandpas who were molesting and raping their own granddaughters and how communities would rally around such people and vilify the victims because most people DON’T REALLY WANT TO KNOW.

Anytime I had a SA case, I would have a brutal heart to heart with the victim. I would tell them the odds and the reasons for them. I would tell them that the trial process would be like being raped again even if I did my very best to enforce all rules of procedure designed to protect victims. I would promise to fight like hell and always have their backs, win or lose. And I would ask them to go home and think about it, talk to their family, their therapist, their confidants and then come back and give me my orders and I would follow them as they wished.

I don’t believe that all the victims refused to cooperate - they weren’t even given the option if you believe what they are saying now about how it all went down - and I for one DO believe them. They were sold out because at very least, Acosta is the kind of man (like SOOOOOO many men) who believes teen girls want it and are lying when they say they don’t. Especially poor white trash teen girls.

I suspect there is some truth to the conspiracy theories about next level dealings, possibly including intelligence assets, in the Epstein trafficking scheme. But even if not, it’s very much like the sexual abuse scandals of the Catholic Church, the Southern Baptist Convention, the Boy Scouts of America, etc. There are a LOT of predators in our midst, some of them are in our own families, and predators cover for other predators because they don’t want it coming home to roost.

Thank you for your work.

The bolded is key. I too have lost my illusions. But it means a lot to know there are people rowing against the tide.

[Anonymous]

Epstein and Giuffre both commit suicide while Trump is president? Curious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A few pages back someone asked if a poster had prosecutorial experience. I do, and I was specially trained on sexual assault prosecution and handled more than a few such cases. I call BS on Acosta’s assessment of the case, not least because I’ve followed the reporting closely and it is universally acknowledged that Acosta never met with any of the victims and never even read their statements. He is misrepresenting the assessment of the line prosecutors in his office were ready to move the case forward.

All prosecutors know that sexual assault cases have the lowest conviction rate, it IS a crap shoot no matter the strength of the evidence because jurors bring ugly biases to these cases that are part of our societal sickness regarding crimes against women and children, who are the primary victims of sexual assault. They also disbelieve male children when they testify about sexual assault. Diddy’s case is one recent example but there are many others. SA cases have only a 50% conviction rate and only 1% of cases ever go to trial. It’s awful. As a society, we essentially condone the sexual exploitation of women and children.

And yes, I have zero doubt that there are men from all along the political spectrum in those files and that we will all be dismayed if we ever get to see them. As a prosecutor I lost all my remaining illusions about people when I saw the kinds of upstanding citizens grandpas who were molesting and raping their own granddaughters and how communities would rally around such people and vilify the victims because most people DON’T REALLY WANT TO KNOW.

Anytime I had a SA case, I would have a brutal heart to heart with the victim. I would tell them the odds and the reasons for them. I would tell them that the trial process would be like being raped again even if I did my very best to enforce all rules of procedure designed to protect victims. I would promise to fight like hell and always have their backs, win or lose. And I would ask them to go home and think about it, talk to their family, their therapist, their confidants and then come back and give me my orders and I would follow them as they wished.

I don’t believe that all the victims refused to cooperate - they weren’t even given the option if you believe what they are saying now about how it all went down - and I for one DO believe them. They were sold out because at very least, Acosta is the kind of man (like SOOOOOO many men) who believes teen girls want it and are lying when they say they don’t. Especially poor white trash teen girls.

I suspect there is some truth to the conspiracy theories about next level dealings, possibly including intelligence assets, in the Epstein trafficking scheme. But even if not, it’s very much like the sexual abuse scandals of the Catholic Church, the Southern Baptist Convention, the Boy Scouts of America, etc. There are a LOT of predators in our midst, some of them are in our own families, and predators cover for other predators because they don’t want it coming home to roost.

Thank you for everything you've done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Johnson saying he won't block an Epstein vote, which makes me think they bought someone off. Sad.

I guess the shutdown will end now. I mean that was the whole point, right? Buying more time to threaten someone enough to get them to cave.

Made them an offer they couldn’t refuse or a threat they couldn’t risk.

I hope we are wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Epstein and Giuffre both commit suicide while Trump is president? Curious.

Didnt she have a "car" accident and then she died suddenly? Mossad probably got her. The best Hitmen in the world. Ask Charlie Kirk and Kevin Spacey's accusers have all died of "suicide" or "accidents" mysteriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is on record as saying Epstein was a creep, and not allowed as his properties, before it all came out. I’m no Trump fan, but he was not his friend.

There are many photos of the two of them hanging out together though…

They went to the same parties. Doesn’t mean they are friends.

Why does it matter if they were friends or not? The question is not who is friends with whom; the question is who is guilty of engaging in sex trafficking of women, who is guilty of rape and violence against trafficked women, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Johnson saying he won't block an Epstein vote, which makes me think they bought someone off. Sad.

I guess the shutdown will end now. I mean that was the whole point, right? Buying more time to threaten someone enough to get them to cave.

Nah sounds like they’ve redacted enough to only expose Democrats.

If there were big Democrats to be exposed they would have already released the files.

There are big Democrats. There are big Republicans. They are all men of wealth and power. They can’t release the file because there are too many references to Trump, according to media reports. There are also thousands of pages.

[Anonymous]

Thank you to the advocates who are willing to drop their protective illusions.

[Anonymous]

Amy Goodman interviewed Virginia Giuffre’s ghostwriter, Amy Wallace, for Democracy Now! - released today. You can listen to the podcast or watch on YouTube. Ms Wallace recently wrote an op-Ed for the NYT about why the book mattered so much.

I appreciate the prosecutor who posted upthread. It’s always made me so infuriated that sex crimes are treated as salacious gossip and not crimes in terms of political discussion. These are also matters worthy of discussion by self-anointed smart people. I can handle all the names, I don’t hold any illusions. Let’s hope more of us grow up.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WfmPPYZueTw

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Johnson saying he won't block an Epstein vote, which makes me think they bought someone off. Sad.

I guess the shutdown will end now. I mean that was the whole point, right? Buying more time to threaten someone enough to get them to cave.

Nah sounds like they’ve redacted enough to only expose Democrats.

If there were big Democrats to be exposed they would have already released the files.

Yep this! 1000% this
Release those files.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Giuffere's book had already taken down a British Prince and a British aristocrat. It will also take down an American president. Judging by how quickly the two in England were downed, I don't give trump a lot of time before he toppled.

Read "Epstein: Dirty Secrets Emerge From a Painful Book — and the Powerful Squirm" on SmartNews: https://l.smartnews.com/p-6qyo76py/lKKmlz

Prince Andrew is far from taken down. What has he lost exactly? His name on a website?

He is a pariah, albeit a royal pariah, but still an outcast. No balcony appearance, no Christmas walks to church with King Charles. He is now the living dead.

If he and Fergie are smart they would follow in the steps of John Profumo and show some humility.

"John Profumo cleaned toilets as part of his volunteer work at Toynbee Hall, a London-based charity for the poor, after his political career ended due to a scandal. He started with janitorial work before moving into administration and became the charity's chief fundraiser, using his old contacts to raise money for their work. This act of service was seen as his form of atonement and eventually led to his public rehabilitation."