Okay, the tell here is that if this list was comprised of “entirely democrats,” then it would have been released on Inauguration Day. |
I think Dershowitz is worst of the worst in terms of character, and that as a Zionist who has decided he’s the worlds most hated Martha’s Vineyard resident, but nothing about that pleading is really a “political game.” Dershowitz is himself conservative (at best a contrarian civil libertarian and the nightmare of a “too smart” lawyer, who physically and legally in terms of maneuvers abused his first time til she killed herself over custody issues.) but so is Prince Andrew on that list, and we know to a certainty he did what he was accused of (photo, reputed payment of 12 million pounds). I believe every name listed accurately lists a man who raped Giuffre or participated in an orgy with underage and of age abused and trafficked women. So yes - I believe Senators Mitchell and Richardson are in there along with Clinton, and Trump, and Andrew, and Ehud Barak. This story is an important story to me. It provides a sense of the kind of abuse many of us don’t see. We’re in the understory, and we are all susceptible to biases where we think “our people” can’t do heinously abusive things. I’m not that deluded anymore. Michelle Goldberg (liberal oped NYT columnists) wrote back in 2016 a single column that perhaps there was something to the myriad Bill Clinton assault allegations, and that maybe we who voted for him (like me) should stop laughing at phrases like “bimbo eruption” and start thinking big about why exactly so many “opposite” people are tainted by this. |
Prince Andrew is far from taken down. What has he lost exactly? His name on a website? |
He may lose more but was the least vulnerable person because of his mother and his antiquated kind of power. Leon Black has real power and has been somewhat humiliated and forced down from the MoMA board because of Epstein. |
More likely Epstein was an OP by the Mossad and Barak was checking in on his assets. |
I don’t know any democrat in real life who would have the slightest hesitation about dem names being published. Of course there are dems implicated-throw the book at them! Would it be very discouraging to find that a dem that shocked me was on the list (meaning not Clinton, etc)-yes! But of course they should still be named. I feel like that’s a key difference between democrats and republicans at the moment. (For example, I don’t know anyone who wasn’t completely disgusted by the Hunter Biden pardon.) |
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Speaking of Hunter could it be that he is in the files and that’s why the Biden administration didn’t release them? I know there were other reasons but this just crossed my mind. Hunter seemed like Biden’s Achilles heel. |
Of course but I find the self-congratulatory crap about this so pointless. Yes. I’m not Trump or MAGA, yes, release all the names. I don’t think there’s a point to your point. PP talking Dershowitz also had no fundamental point. |
The answer is simply "to protect powerful people." |
This has nothing to do with "the files". |
| Johnson saying he won't block an Epstein vote, which makes me think they bought someone off. Sad. |
The point is republicans are obstructing while also implying there are tons of democrats in the files so the louder democrats say “Roger that, let’s see those files!” the more ridiculous their position looks. And since this is the only thing thing maga people seem to care about I think that’s a worthwhile goal. |
I guess the shutdown will end now. I mean that was the whole point, right? Buying more time to threaten someone enough to get them to cave. |