South Arlington and North Arlington Schools

[Anonymous]

This article seems relevant:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/10/23/forced-busing-didnt-fail-desegregation-is-the-best-way-to-improve-our-schools/

Really wish our School Board had the courage to admit that some schools are letting down our children, and then DO something about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This article seems relevant:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/10/23/forced-busing-didnt-fail-desegregation-is-the-best-way-to-improve-our-schools/

Really wish our School Board had the courage to admit that some schools are letting down our children, and then DO something about it.

If CARD keeps growing, then N Arlington liberals, VOICE, and the Latino community will have to seriously listen. CARD advocating for integrated schools and housing is reasonable, and that should be the goal for all communities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This article seems relevant:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/10/23/forced-busing-didnt-fail-desegregation-is-the-best-way-to-improve-our-schools/

Really wish our School Board had the courage to admit that some schools are letting down our children, and then DO something about it.

If CARD keeps growing, then N Arlington liberals, VOICE, and the Latino community will have to seriously listen. CARD advocating for integrated schools and housing is reasonable, and that should be the goal for all communities.

Truly integrated schools are n arlington's nightmare

[Anonymous]

People- CARD is fantastic and I really hope it does continue and grow. It's a group that is willing to be honest and talk about very real challenges that make people very uncomfortable.
But here is the reality -
At the CB meeting voting on the AH master plan- there were maybe 12 people there supporting card. VOICE and MI VOZ CUENTA had well over 100.
CARD is a new group and now that the AH master plan has been voted on, I haven't heard anything from them or seen any changes on the website.
Maybe they will jump back into the fray regarding the new S. arl elementary school.

[Anonymous]

MI VOZ CUENTA = what's really going to happen in south arlington, CARD = wishful thinking

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, unless there is a major change in the school board and the board none of this is going to happen. The CARD group tried to tackle some of these issues and the Voz group came out swinging with their sob stories and "diversity." Much of this comes not from the Latino community but from the churches we all go to that lead the VOICE efforts. Perhaps the changes need to come from parishoners who are members of the churches that lead much of this.

Don't blame Mi Voz Cuenta. They were misled to believe that the CARD group were a bunch of Donald Trump-loving Tea Partiers, when really I think CARD were liberals pointing out the hypocrisy of other liberals. Think about who would do that, and why.

Segregation is a subject that makes many people uncomfortable; nobody wants to admit that they are comfortable with it, and that they tacitly accept it as the price of admission to a "good school."

But the thing is, in this case, the Latino community mentioned wants to be segregated! They want all their kids together at the same school(s)! They want to be in the majority and make zero efforts to integrate. It is not politically incorrect for them apparently.

No, in fact there is a strong "'liberal" contingent that is helping them accomplish this. I used to think it was the wealthy in north Arlington, who want to feel good about supporting the less fortunate, while keeping it at arms length. I don't think that's the case any more. I think much of this activism comes from south Arlington home owners.

Not me!
I'm absolutely flabbergasted by this "movement ".
Also the PP describing "white haired retirees" leading Latino families by hand into the meeting!? WTH? Who are these people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, unless there is a major change in the school board and the board none of this is going to happen. The CARD group tried to tackle some of these issues and the Voz group came out swinging with their sob stories and "diversity." Much of this comes not from the Latino community but from the churches we all go to that lead the VOICE efforts. Perhaps the changes need to come from parishoners who are members of the churches that lead much of this.

Don't blame Mi Voz Cuenta. They were misled to believe that the CARD group were a bunch of Donald Trump-loving Tea Partiers, when really I think CARD were liberals pointing out the hypocrisy of other liberals. Think about who would do that, and why.

Segregation is a subject that makes many people uncomfortable; nobody wants to admit that they are comfortable with it, and that they tacitly accept it as the price of admission to a "good school."

But the thing is, in this case, the Latino community mentioned wants to be segregated! They want all their kids together at the same school(s)! They want to be in the majority and make zero efforts to integrate. It is not politically incorrect for them apparently.

No, in fact there is a strong "'liberal" contingent that is helping them accomplish this. I used to think it was the wealthy in north Arlington, who want to feel good about supporting the less fortunate, while keeping it at arms length. I don't think that's the case any more. I think much of this activism comes from south Arlington home owners.

Not me!
I'm absolutely flabbergasted by this "movement ".
Also the PP describing "white haired retirees" leading Latino families by hand into the meeting!? WTH? Who are these people?

I think people forget how gentrified South of 50 is. Sure, there is more of a range of incomes, but most of the single fame home civic associations are pretty much higher income now. While they may also be liberal dems, they want good schools too. Hopefully that will mean the county will equitably distribute people to create diversity and good schools for all, like CARD wanted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, unless there is a major change in the school board and the board none of this is going to happen. The CARD group tried to tackle some of these issues and the Voz group came out swinging with their sob stories and "diversity." Much of this comes not from the Latino community but from the churches we all go to that lead the VOICE efforts. Perhaps the changes need to come from parishoners who are members of the churches that lead much of this.

Don't blame Mi Voz Cuenta. They were misled to believe that the CARD group were a bunch of Donald Trump-loving Tea Partiers, when really I think CARD were liberals pointing out the hypocrisy of other liberals. Think about who would do that, and why.

Segregation is a subject that makes many people uncomfortable; nobody wants to admit that they are comfortable with it, and that they tacitly accept it as the price of admission to a "good school."

But the thing is, in this case, the Latino community mentioned wants to be segregated! They want all their kids together at the same school(s)! They want to be in the majority and make zero efforts to integrate. It is not politically incorrect for them apparently.

No, in fact there is a strong "'liberal" contingent that is helping them accomplish this. I used to think it was the wealthy in north Arlington, who want to feel good about supporting the less fortunate, while keeping it at arms length. I don't think that's the case any more. I think much of this activism comes from south Arlington home owners.

Not me!
I'm absolutely flabbergasted by this "movement ".
Also the PP describing "white haired retirees" leading Latino families by hand into the meeting!? WTH? Who are these people?

These are older people who have lived here for 30+ years. They spent 175,000 on their home and they hate the new builds and popped up second floors around them. They think you speed around the neighborhood in your fancy car, and they think the schools are just fine- even though they don't have kids In them, and if you ask - you'll discover they sent their kids to private school back in the day. They feel the old Arlington is slipping away and don't want it changed. They are ultra liberal, to the point that they can't be reasoned with in regards to fiscal realities. They don't care that you spent 609k on a fixer upper, spend 2000 a month on childcare and are working your ass off to live close enough to work to try and have a home life. They don't care that the metro region has exploded since 1981, when they were a GS 13 and were able to afford a parent to stay home. They don't care that your kid is in a trailer, has lunch at 10am, and nowhere for recess. If you are so fancy and can afford to live here- you can afford private school as far as they are concerned. They don't understand why the kids need iPads- even though the point of that program is close the gap for less advantaged kids they are championing.
To sum up- they don't like you. They don't like your yuppie lifestyle. They don't like your entitlement. They don't like that you tore down/ renovated a perfectly good house. They don't like that you are demanding more from perfectly good schools.
They would rather move half of El Salvador and Ethiopia into all of Barcroft than see anymore people like you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, unless there is a major change in the school board and the board none of this is going to happen. The CARD group tried to tackle some of these issues and the Voz group came out swinging with their sob stories and "diversity." Much of this comes not from the Latino community but from the churches we all go to that lead the VOICE efforts. Perhaps the changes need to come from parishoners who are members of the churches that lead much of this.

Don't blame Mi Voz Cuenta. They were misled to believe that the CARD group were a bunch of Donald Trump-loving Tea Partiers, when really I think CARD were liberals pointing out the hypocrisy of other liberals. Think about who would do that, and why.

Segregation is a subject that makes many people uncomfortable; nobody wants to admit that they are comfortable with it, and that they tacitly accept it as the price of admission to a "good school."

But the thing is, in this case, the Latino community mentioned wants to be segregated! They want all their kids together at the same school(s)! They want to be in the majority and make zero efforts to integrate. It is not politically incorrect for them apparently.

No, in fact there is a strong "'liberal" contingent that is helping them accomplish this. I used to think it was the wealthy in north Arlington, who want to feel good about supporting the less fortunate, while keeping it at arms length. I don't think that's the case any more. I think much of this activism comes from south Arlington home owners.

Not me!
I'm absolutely flabbergasted by this "movement ".
Also the PP describing "white haired retirees" leading Latino families by hand into the meeting!? WTH? Who are these people?

These are older people who have lived here for 30+ years. They spent 175,000 on their home and they hate the new builds and popped up second floors around them. They think you speed around the neighborhood in your fancy car, and they think the schools are just fine- even though they don't have kids In them, and if you ask - you'll discover they sent their kids to private school back in the day. They feel the old Arlington is slipping away and don't want it changed. They are ultra liberal, to the point that they can't be reasoned with in regards to fiscal realities. They don't care that you spent 609k on a fixer upper, spend 2000 a month on childcare and are working your ass off to live close enough to work to try and have a home life. They don't care that the metro region has exploded since 1981, when they were a GS 13 and were able to afford a parent to stay home. They don't care that your kid is in a trailer, has lunch at 10am, and nowhere for recess. If you are so fancy and can afford to live here- you can afford private school as far as they are concerned. They don't understand why the kids need iPads- even though the point of that program is close the gap for less advantaged kids they are championing.
To sum up- they don't like you. They don't like your yuppie lifestyle. They don't like your entitlement. They don't like that you tore down/ renovated a perfectly good house. They don't like that you are demanding more from perfectly good schools.
They would rather move half of El Salvador and Ethiopia into all of Barcroft than see anymore people like you.

lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, unless there is a major change in the school board and the board none of this is going to happen. The CARD group tried to tackle some of these issues and the Voz group came out swinging with their sob stories and "diversity." Much of this comes not from the Latino community but from the churches we all go to that lead the VOICE efforts. Perhaps the changes need to come from parishoners who are members of the churches that lead much of this.

Don't blame Mi Voz Cuenta. They were misled to believe that the CARD group were a bunch of Donald Trump-loving Tea Partiers, when really I think CARD were liberals pointing out the hypocrisy of other liberals. Think about who would do that, and why.

Segregation is a subject that makes many people uncomfortable; nobody wants to admit that they are comfortable with it, and that they tacitly accept it as the price of admission to a "good school."

But the thing is, in this case, the Latino community mentioned wants to be segregated! They want all their kids together at the same school(s)! They want to be in the majority and make zero efforts to integrate. It is not politically incorrect for them apparently.

No, in fact there is a strong "'liberal" contingent that is helping them accomplish this. I used to think it was the wealthy in north Arlington, who want to feel good about supporting the less fortunate, while keeping it at arms length. I don't think that's the case any more. I think much of this activism comes from south Arlington home owners.

Not me!
I'm absolutely flabbergasted by this "movement ".
Also the PP describing "white haired retirees" leading Latino families by hand into the meeting!? WTH? Who are these people?

These are older people who have lived here for 30+ years. They spent 175,000 on their home and they hate the new builds and popped up second floors around them. They think you speed around the neighborhood in your fancy car, and they think the schools are just fine- even though they don't have kids In them, and if you ask - you'll discover they sent their kids to private school back in the day. They feel the old Arlington is slipping away and don't want it changed. They are ultra liberal, to the point that they can't be reasoned with in regards to fiscal realities. They don't care that you spent 609k on a fixer upper, spend 2000 a month on childcare and are working your ass off to live close enough to work to try and have a home life. They don't care that the metro region has exploded since 1981, when they were a GS 13 and were able to afford a parent to stay home. They don't care that your kid is in a trailer, has lunch at 10am, and nowhere for recess. If you are so fancy and can afford to live here- you can afford private school as far as they are concerned. They don't understand why the kids need iPads- even though the point of that program is close the gap for less advantaged kids they are championing.
To sum up- they don't like you. They don't like your yuppie lifestyle. They don't like your entitlement. They don't like that you tore down/ renovated a perfectly good house. They don't like that you are demanding more from perfectly good schools.
They would rather move half of El Salvador and Ethiopia into all of Barcroft than see anymore people like you.

To be fair, I don't understand why the kids need ipads, either. The technology is intuitive, and frankly the longer we wait before addicting our kids to the call-and-response Pavlovian drug of texting and Internet surfing, the better. And fwiw, from what I've seen it's the poorer moms who are foisting their kids off to play with a phone when waiting for something, rather than the rich kids whose nannies are instructed to reduce screen time. Not always, but often.

[Anonymous]

Dude - the poor moms- the actually poor moms don't have this kind of tech to give their kids.
I get what you are saying about screen time, I really do, but this is the new world order. Maybe you think it's intuitive and it certainly can be, but learning this kind of interface is going to be integral to any kids future success. The issue is if you give to some - you have to give to all. Do I think the middle class kids need them? No. They are getting plenty of exposure, but if you are going to insist that 20% of the county be poor- they are going to need more than a roof over their heads. This is all part of the package.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, unless there is a major change in the school board and the board none of this is going to happen. The CARD group tried to tackle some of these issues and the Voz group came out swinging with their sob stories and "diversity." Much of this comes not from the Latino community but from the churches we all go to that lead the VOICE efforts. Perhaps the changes need to come from parishoners who are members of the churches that lead much of this.

Don't blame Mi Voz Cuenta. They were misled to believe that the CARD group were a bunch of Donald Trump-loving Tea Partiers, when really I think CARD were liberals pointing out the hypocrisy of other liberals. Think about who would do that, and why.

Segregation is a subject that makes many people uncomfortable; nobody wants to admit that they are comfortable with it, and that they tacitly accept it as the price of admission to a "good school."

But the thing is, in this case, the Latino community mentioned wants to be segregated! They want all their kids together at the same school(s)! They want to be in the majority and make zero efforts to integrate. It is not politically incorrect for them apparently.

No, in fact there is a strong "'liberal" contingent that is helping them accomplish this. I used to think it was the wealthy in north Arlington, who want to feel good about supporting the less fortunate, while keeping it at arms length. I don't think that's the case any more. I think much of this activism comes from south Arlington home owners.

Not me!
I'm absolutely flabbergasted by this "movement ".
Also the PP describing "white haired retirees" leading Latino families by hand into the meeting!? WTH? Who are these people?

These are older people who have lived here for 30+ years. They spent 175,000 on their home and they hate the new builds and popped up second floors around them. They think you speed around the neighborhood in your fancy car, and they think the schools are just fine- even though they don't have kids In them, and if you ask - you'll discover they sent their kids to private school back in the day. They feel the old Arlington is slipping away and don't want it changed. They are ultra liberal, to the point that they can't be reasoned with in regards to fiscal realities. They don't care that you spent 609k on a fixer upper, spend 2000 a month on childcare and are working your ass off to live close enough to work to try and have a home life. They don't care that the metro region has exploded since 1981, when they were a GS 13 and were able to afford a parent to stay home. They don't care that your kid is in a trailer, has lunch at 10am, and nowhere for recess. If you are so fancy and can afford to live here- you can afford private school as far as they are concerned. They don't understand why the kids need iPads- even though the point of that program is close the gap for less advantaged kids they are championing.
To sum up- they don't like you. They don't like your yuppie lifestyle. They don't like your entitlement. They don't like that you tore down/ renovated a perfectly good house. They don't like that you are demanding more from perfectly good schools.
They would rather move half of El Salvador and Ethiopia into all of Barcroft than see anymore people like you.

*CLAP CLAP CLAP*

I was on a civic association for one of the northern South Arlington neighborhoods and this is such an incredible description of the underlying dynamics of every meeting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, unless there is a major change in the school board and the board none of this is going to happen. The CARD group tried to tackle some of these issues and the Voz group came out swinging with their sob stories and "diversity." Much of this comes not from the Latino community but from the churches we all go to that lead the VOICE efforts. Perhaps the changes need to come from parishoners who are members of the churches that lead much of this.

Don't blame Mi Voz Cuenta. They were misled to believe that the CARD group were a bunch of Donald Trump-loving Tea Partiers, when really I think CARD were liberals pointing out the hypocrisy of other liberals. Think about who would do that, and why.

Segregation is a subject that makes many people uncomfortable; nobody wants to admit that they are comfortable with it, and that they tacitly accept it as the price of admission to a "good school."

But the thing is, in this case, the Latino community mentioned wants to be segregated! They want all their kids together at the same school(s)! They want to be in the majority and make zero efforts to integrate. It is not politically incorrect for them apparently.

No, in fact there is a strong "'liberal" contingent that is helping them accomplish this. I used to think it was the wealthy in north Arlington, who want to feel good about supporting the less fortunate, while keeping it at arms length. I don't think that's the case any more. I think much of this activism comes from south Arlington home owners.

Not me!
I'm absolutely flabbergasted by this "movement ".
Also the PP describing "white haired retirees" leading Latino families by hand into the meeting!? WTH? Who are these people?

These are older people who have lived here for 30+ years. They spent 175,000 on their home and they hate the new builds and popped up second floors around them. They think you speed around the neighborhood in your fancy car, and they think the schools are just fine- even though they don't have kids In them, and if you ask - you'll discover they sent their kids to private school back in the day. They feel the old Arlington is slipping away and don't want it changed. They are ultra liberal, to the point that they can't be reasoned with in regards to fiscal realities. They don't care that you spent 609k on a fixer upper, spend 2000 a month on childcare and are working your ass off to live close enough to work to try and have a home life. They don't care that the metro region has exploded since 1981, when they were a GS 13 and were able to afford a parent to stay home. They don't care that your kid is in a trailer, has lunch at 10am, and nowhere for recess. If you are so fancy and can afford to live here- you can afford private school as far as they are concerned. They don't understand why the kids need iPads- even though the point of that program is close the gap for less advantaged kids they are championing.
To sum up- they don't like you. They don't like your yuppie lifestyle. They don't like your entitlement. They don't like that you tore down/ renovated a perfectly good house. They don't like that you are demanding more from perfectly good schools.
They would rather move half of El Salvador and Ethiopia into all of Barcroft than see anymore people like you.

*CLAP CLAP CLAP*

I was on a civic association for one of the northern South Arlington neighborhoods and this is such an incredible description of the underlying dynamics of every meeting.

1) "Northern" South Arlington? I'm laughing inside, but I know that you are trying to give a general idea of where you live.
2) I wish those older folks got it. We've just pretend that we live the tiny house lifestyle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dude - the poor moms- the actually poor moms don't have this kind of tech to give their kids.
I get what you are saying about screen time, I really do, but this is the new world order. Maybe you think it's intuitive and it certainly can be, but learning this kind of interface is going to be integral to any kids future success. The issue is if you give to some - you have to give to all. Do I think the middle class kids need them? No. They are getting plenty of exposure, but if you are going to insist that 20% of the county be poor- they are going to need more than a roof over their heads. This is all part of the package.

Actually lots of the poor moms in my community service org have cut the cords to expensive landlines and have a cell phone with a data plan and kid apps on their phones. Even many poor parents have cell phones; it's the land lines that are being forfeited.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, unless there is a major change in the school board and the board none of this is going to happen. The CARD group tried to tackle some of these issues and the Voz group came out swinging with their sob stories and "diversity." Much of this comes not from the Latino community but from the churches we all go to that lead the VOICE efforts. Perhaps the changes need to come from parishoners who are members of the churches that lead much of this.

Don't blame Mi Voz Cuenta. They were misled to believe that the CARD group were a bunch of Donald Trump-loving Tea Partiers, when really I think CARD were liberals pointing out the hypocrisy of other liberals. Think about who would do that, and why.

Segregation is a subject that makes many people uncomfortable; nobody wants to admit that they are comfortable with it, and that they tacitly accept it as the price of admission to a "good school."

But the thing is, in this case, the Latino community mentioned wants to be segregated! They want all their kids together at the same school(s)! They want to be in the majority and make zero efforts to integrate. It is not politically incorrect for them apparently.

No, in fact there is a strong "'liberal" contingent that is helping them accomplish this. I used to think it was the wealthy in north Arlington, who want to feel good about supporting the less fortunate, while keeping it at arms length. I don't think that's the case any more. I think much of this activism comes from south Arlington home owners.

Not me!
I'm absolutely flabbergasted by this "movement ".
Also the PP describing "white haired retirees" leading Latino families by hand into the meeting!? WTH? Who are these people?

These are older people who have lived here for 30+ years. They spent 175,000 on their home and they hate the new builds and popped up second floors around them. They think you speed around the neighborhood in your fancy car, and they think the schools are just fine- even though they don't have kids In them, and if you ask - you'll discover they sent their kids to private school back in the day. They feel the old Arlington is slipping away and don't want it changed. They are ultra liberal, to the point that they can't be reasoned with in regards to fiscal realities. They don't care that you spent 609k on a fixer upper, spend 2000 a month on childcare and are working your ass off to live close enough to work to try and have a home life. They don't care that the metro region has exploded since 1981, when they were a GS 13 and were able to afford a parent to stay home. They don't care that your kid is in a trailer, has lunch at 10am, and nowhere for recess. If you are so fancy and can afford to live here- you can afford private school as far as they are concerned. They don't understand why the kids need iPads- even though the point of that program is close the gap for less advantaged kids they are championing.
To sum up- they don't like you. They don't like your yuppie lifestyle. They don't like your entitlement. They don't like that you tore down/ renovated a perfectly good house. They don't like that you are demanding more from perfectly good schools.
They would rather move half of El Salvador and Ethiopia into all of Barcroft than see anymore people like you.

*CLAP CLAP CLAP*

I was on a civic association for one of the northern South Arlington neighborhoods and this is such an incredible description of the underlying dynamics of every meeting.

1) "Northern" South Arlington? I'm laughing inside, but I know that you are trying to give a general idea of where you live.
2) I wish those older folks got it. We've just pretend that we live the tiny house lifestyle.

yes, exactly. don't want to implicate anyone. IME you see PP's kind of person more in the north of the pike, east of 4 mile run S Arl neighborhoods than the rest...