South Arlington and North Arlington Schools

[Anonymous]

^^^ 20k a year. It's a pretty big financial investment by the county.

[Anonymous]

...which is why the County could do a better job of explaining why diversity matters and would benefit ESOL students. If they have and the parents don't want it, then the County can say its done its job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:...which is why the County could do a better job of explaining why diversity matters and would benefit ESOL students. If they have and the parents don't want it, then the County can say its done its job.

I feel like the county panders and is really condescending when it comes to that community.

[Anonymous]

Well, unless there is a major change in the school board and the board none of this is going to happen. The CARD group tried to tackle some of these issues and the Voz group came out swinging with their sob stories and "diversity." Much of this comes not from the Latino community but from the churches we all go to that lead the VOICE efforts. Perhaps the changes need to come from parishoners who are members of the churches that lead much of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, unless there is a major change in the school board and the board none of this is going to happen. The CARD group tried to tackle some of these issues and the Voz group came out swinging with their sob stories and "diversity." Much of this comes not from the Latino community but from the churches we all go to that lead the VOICE efforts. Perhaps the changes need to come from parishoners who are members of the churches that lead much of this.

Don't blame Mi Voz Cuenta. They were misled to believe that the CARD group were a bunch of Donald Trump-loving Tea Partiers, when really I think CARD were liberals pointing out the hypocrisy of other liberals. Think about who would do that, and why.

Segregation is a subject that makes many people uncomfortable; nobody wants to admit that they are comfortable with it, and that they tacitly accept it as the price of admission to a "good school."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, unless there is a major change in the school board and the board none of this is going to happen. The CARD group tried to tackle some of these issues and the Voz group came out swinging with their sob stories and "diversity." Much of this comes not from the Latino community but from the churches we all go to that lead the VOICE efforts. Perhaps the changes need to come from parishoners who are members of the churches that lead much of this.

Don't blame Mi Voz Cuenta. They were misled to believe that the CARD group were a bunch of Donald Trump-loving Tea Partiers, when really I think CARD were liberals pointing out the hypocrisy of other liberals. Think about who would do that, and why.

Segregation is a subject that makes many people uncomfortable; nobody wants to admit that they are comfortable with it, and that they tacitly accept it as the price of admission to a "good school."

At the county board meeting, where they were voting on the master plan, I can tell you exactly who was who. It was a bunch of grey haired, sour faced, white retirees, literally walking Latino families by the hand into the meeting. All wearing matching t shirts.Also a smattering of young 20 somethings- who obviously didn't have kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You realize the Barcroft issue is a housing problem, not a school problem, right?. TJ is the best location for the new school; but if you jam too much affordable housing into Barcroft (as shall be done), you will have a big poverty challenge on your hands at that school. A bunch of people made that point to the Board, but no one wanted to hear it.

Yes, everyone paying attention realizes this. However, there isn't anything to be done now. the western end of the pike is a shit show, and only going to get worse. VOICE has worked tirelessly to make this happen over the last decade. It's done.
Best case scenario to salvage property values in the nice little neighborhoods feeding into Barcroft is to gerrymander those kids out with a new school.
I'm also not sympathetic to what the Latino community wants. Seriously- they can't afford to live here without us paying for it and they want to make demands. Give me a break.
They don't want their kids to be the minority in their schools? Well, neither do I. The difference is that I'm paying to be here.

+1. Can't take it anymore. Su VOZ Cuenta por estupidez.

I've been a minority most of my life, and I can understand why being surrounded by familiar faces might be comforting. But maybe the County could work harder to sell the reasons why diversity might benefit all communities? I know that's a long shot and all.

Being surrounded by familiar faces doesn't immerse a child in a new culture and language. We have children in the schools who start as ESOL in grade school and are still not at grade level in high school. Those kids aren't experiencing diversity. Those kids are living in a segregated bubble. That's not doing those kids any favors, especially if they plan to stay and become citizens. Even if they plan to leave - English is the language of commerce. They should not still be behind after we've sunk 20k into each of them for a decade.

Very true!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, unless there is a major change in the school board and the board none of this is going to happen. The CARD group tried to tackle some of these issues and the Voz group came out swinging with their sob stories and "diversity." Much of this comes not from the Latino community but from the churches we all go to that lead the VOICE efforts. Perhaps the changes need to come from parishoners who are members of the churches that lead much of this.

Don't blame Mi Voz Cuenta. They were misled to believe that the CARD group were a bunch of Donald Trump-loving Tea Partiers, when really I think CARD were liberals pointing out the hypocrisy of other liberals. Think about who would do that, and why.

Segregation is a subject that makes many people uncomfortable; nobody wants to admit that they are comfortable with it, and that they tacitly accept it as the price of admission to a "good school."

But the thing is, in this case, the Latino community mentioned wants to be segregated! They want all their kids together at the same school(s)! They want to be in the majority and make zero efforts to integrate. It is not politically incorrect for them apparently.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, unless there is a major change in the school board and the board none of this is going to happen. The CARD group tried to tackle some of these issues and the Voz group came out swinging with their sob stories and "diversity." Much of this comes not from the Latino community but from the churches we all go to that lead the VOICE efforts. Perhaps the changes need to come from parishoners who are members of the churches that lead much of this.

Don't blame Mi Voz Cuenta. They were misled to believe that the CARD group were a bunch of Donald Trump-loving Tea Partiers, when really I think CARD were liberals pointing out the hypocrisy of other liberals. Think about who would do that, and why.

Segregation is a subject that makes many people uncomfortable; nobody wants to admit that they are comfortable with it, and that they tacitly accept it as the price of admission to a "good school."

But the thing is, in this case, the Latino community mentioned wants to be segregated! They want all their kids together at the same school(s)! They want to be in the majority and make zero efforts to integrate. It is not politically incorrect for them apparently.

No, in fact there is a strong "'liberal" contingent that is helping them accomplish this. I used to think it was the wealthy in north Arlington, who want to feel good about supporting the less fortunate, while keeping it at arms length. I don't think that's the case any more. I think much of this activism comes from south Arlington home owners.

[Anonymous]

05:21 is onto something. I don't think the wealthiest in N. Arlington (22207, 22213) care what's happening south of 50. The liberal help is local to the cause.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Calling it a fringe view perhaps overlooks the fact that, historically, a lack of diversity in schools has been driven by institutionalized segregation, which was ultimately found to be unconstitutional. This is why some districts were required to bus etc. Some jurisdictions still pay close attention to how the drawing of boundaries impacts the demographics of the various schools to make sure they are not engaging in de facto segregation. So it's probably better to think of diversioty as a federal requirement rather than just a value.

Arlington has chosen not to take this path, because residents have resisted any such ideas over the years. What's new is how the Latino community, as encouraged by VOICE in particular, is resisting any efforts to integrate the schools.

The last middle and high school boundary changes were over 20 years ago, and those gerrymandered boundaries bussed high poverty neighborhoods to W-L and Yorktown to better integrate the schools. I predict the undoing of those boundaries and more segregation with the future schools APS will construct, because the Latino groups and many N Arlington parents do not value more balanced demographics. And CARD seems like a right wing fringe group, even though they are not. If McMenamin is elected, that will be a huge wake up call.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Calling it a fringe view perhaps overlooks the fact that, historically, a lack of diversity in schools has been driven by institutionalized segregation, which was ultimately found to be unconstitutional. This is why some districts were required to bus etc. Some jurisdictions still pay close attention to how the drawing of boundaries impacts the demographics of the various schools to make sure they are not engaging in de facto segregation. So it's probably better to think of diversioty as a federal requirement rather than just a value.

Arlington has chosen not to take this path, because residents have resisted any such ideas over the years. What's new is how the Latino community, as encouraged by VOICE in particular, is resisting any efforts to integrate the schools.

The last middle and high school boundary changes were over 20 years ago, and those gerrymandered boundaries bussed high poverty neighborhoods to W-L and Yorktown to better integrate the schools. I predict the undoing of those boundaries and more segregation with the future schools APS will construct, because the Latino groups and many N Arlington parents do not value more balanced demographics. And CARD seems like a right wing fringe group, even though they are not. If McMenamin is elected, that will be a huge wake up call.

How on earth does CARD seem like a right wing fringe group?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Calling it a fringe view perhaps overlooks the fact that, historically, a lack of diversity in schools has been driven by institutionalized segregation, which was ultimately found to be unconstitutional. This is why some districts were required to bus etc. Some jurisdictions still pay close attention to how the drawing of boundaries impacts the demographics of the various schools to make sure they are not engaging in de facto segregation. So it's probably better to think of diversioty as a federal requirement rather than just a value.

Arlington has chosen not to take this path, because residents have resisted any such ideas over the years. What's new is how the Latino community, as encouraged by VOICE in particular, is resisting any efforts to integrate the schools.

The last middle and high school boundary changes were over 20 years ago, and those gerrymandered boundaries bussed high poverty neighborhoods to W-L and Yorktown to better integrate the schools. I predict the undoing of those boundaries and more segregation with the future schools APS will construct, because the Latino groups and many N Arlington parents do not value more balanced demographics. And CARD seems like a right wing fringe group, even though they are not. If McMenamin is elected, that will be a huge wake up call.

How on earth does CARD seem like a right wing fringe group?

To VOICE and the Democratic Party establishment that stands by the Housing Plan as adopted and does not see parkland as sacrosanct. They paint CARD as a fringe group with mildly racist views. A local "tea party" if you will.

[Anonymous]

^^^ that just shows how freaking out if touch the local " established " dems of Arlington are. I guarantee 95% of CARD members are registered democrats. You start losing people's trust and respect when you can't have an honest conversation about policy.
I've heard some people express skepticism over McMenamin actually being a republican. Well, so what?
I heard him speak. He's middle of the road. Jeez- to hear some of my neighbors talk you'd think he's Ben Carson in disguise.
It would be great if people would get informed and vote for their best interests. If you are middle class in Arlington- it's not the Democrats right now. The pendulum needs to swing back to center for a bit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^^ that just shows how freaking out if touch the local " established " dems of Arlington are. I guarantee 95% of CARD members are registered democrats. You start losing people's trust and respect when you can't have an honest conversation about policy.

I signed on to CARD and am definitely far far left of center. I am terrified of the Tea Party or even the general GOP anymore. Anyone trying to paint CARD as fringe/racist should actually talk to one or more of the members.