South Arlington and North Arlington Schools

Anonymous
To the person looking for the "truth": The truth is your middle class child will be fine at any of these schools. The high FARMS schools have extra resources to help meet the challenges faced by high poverty children and children who need extra language support. If your child is gifted, they may even get a little extra attention at these schools because they have more resources overall. Everyone will master the grade level curriculum (at least everyone middle class). BUT, and this is a big but, the lower FARM schools extend the curriculum more for everyone. There is less effort needed to get kids to master the curriculum (The kids are not smarter--they just have more support at home by and large, and mastery of the language ,and fewer complications imposed by poverty). So, the terrific APS teachers (and they are almost ALL terrific across all schools) at the low poverty schools have the luxury of teaching and doing more. And they do. So, your kid will be fine at Randolph, but they will learn a ton more at Taylor or Glebe or Henry. In middle school, there is by and large LESS differentiation, not more. So, again, you are better off with less poverty and fewer language issues. I have lived it, with kids who attended elementary in the S. and the N. and middle in the N (comparing to friends at the S. middle school).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The prior post here is absolutely right. Having low income kids in schools is an asset to the school itself and the kids. The unequal education starts to happen when a school rises above 50% FARMS, like barcroft, Randolph and carlin springs. Henry is in danger of losing its Title I status because I believe it is at about 40% FARMs. Oakridge is at about 30%. And guess what, that is a sweet spot ratio where everyone benefits from diversity and the lower income kids are getting the resources they need and doing well in school. What we have now, partly because of the market, and unfortunately by political design and policy, is separate and unequal educational system in large sections of the county. APS touts a world class education, and that should Apply to all the kids in the county, not just to those with wealthier parents.

Reading through this really long thread it seams like a lot of you get it. Do something about it. Join CARD.


What is CARD ?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:To the person looking for the "truth": The truth is your middle class child will be fine at any of these schools. The high FARMS schools have extra resources to help meet the challenges faced by high poverty children and children who need extra language support. If your child is gifted, they may even get a little extra attention at these schools because they have more resources overall. Everyone will master the grade level curriculum (at least everyone middle class). BUT, and this is a big but, the lower FARM schools extend the curriculum more for everyone. There is less effort needed to get kids to master the curriculum (The kids are not smarter--they just have more support at home by and large, and mastery of the language ,and fewer complications imposed by poverty). So, the terrific APS teachers (and they are almost ALL terrific across all schools) at the low poverty schools have the luxury of teaching and doing more. And they do. So, your kid will be fine at Randolph, but they will learn a ton more at Taylor or Glebe or Henry. In middle school, there is by and large LESS differentiation, not more. So, again, you are better off with less poverty and fewer language issues. I have lived it, with kids who attended elementary in the S. and the N. and middle in the N (comparing to friends at the S. middle school).



Thank you for your insight, PP! It's very much appreciated!
Just one more question: Which grade(s) were your kids in when you moved? (Did you feel that it was significant in retrospect - "so glad we moved in grade x because "- it seems from your post you feel that it was more important for middle school?...)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The prior post here is absolutely right. Having low income kids in schools is an asset to the school itself and the kids. The unequal education starts to happen when a school rises above 50% FARMS, like barcroft, Randolph and carlin springs. Henry is in danger of losing its Title I status because I believe it is at about 40% FARMs. Oakridge is at about 30%. And guess what, that is a sweet spot ratio where everyone benefits from diversity and the lower income kids are getting the resources they need and doing well in school. What we have now, partly because of the market, and unfortunately by political design and policy, is separate and unequal educational system in large sections of the county. APS touts a world class education, and that should Apply to all the kids in the county, not just to those with wealthier parents.

Reading through this really long thread it seams like a lot of you get it. Do something about it. Join CARD.


What is CARD ?


CARD is a group of Arlington residents that is trying to tell the county board that their affordable housing Master Plan, is not a masterful idea at all.
.....and that they need to look to distribute affordable housing throughout the county in a manner that will not overwhelm any one or two (or three) schools.

The name CARD was obviously not the best idea, because I was trying to link it here for you, and I found everything from a group for autism to a year round Easter card store, but not them. Maybe they should change their name into something more distinctive , especially after the ridiculous and undeserved negative publicity they received.

Why this group is attacked is totally beyond me. They could not be any more reasonable ...or unprovocative, in my mind.
The "Su Voz Cuenta" people are the ones who are nuts, and apparently driven by deep pocket lobbyists.
Su Voz Cuenta rallies Spanish speaking immigrants to demand that they must all enjoy the gift of housing in closest proximity to each other, only then can they be the big happy family they were meant to be when they came to the U.S.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What nova needs is another TJ. Kind of like the Bronx Science to Stuyvesant. There are so many nerds here that it could work.


http://www.apsva.us/domain/5406

HS Info Session @ Career Center for Arlington Tech
11/16/2015 8:30 AM

2016-17 School Year

(Pending Budget Approval)

Open to all Arlington 9th grade students

40 students selected for participation



For more information contact Cassidy Nolen, Coordinator Arlington Tech
@ 703-228-5811 or cassidy.nolen@apsva.us


Arlington Tech at the Career Center provides
An all day, full-time high school program
Integrated hands-on, project based learning
Sustainable technologies and STEM focus
Challenging academic/career and technical courses
Access to a variety of dual enrollment coursework



Benefits for all students
Opportunities for industry certifications
Work based internship opportunities
Hands-on learning in high demand STEM-related careers
Earning college credits in high school through dual enrollment academic and CTE courses



2016-17 STEM/CTE Programs
Engineering
IT/Digital Media
Aviation
Auto-Tech (DE)
Auto Body
Engineering
Engineering Drawing (DE)
Architectural Drawing (DE)
Networking/Electricity
Sustainable/Renewable Technologies
Cyber Security
TV Production (DE)
Computer Graphics/Animation
Computer Programming (DE)
Advanced Topics in Information Tech (DE)


(DE) dual enrolled CTE courses
Anonymous
BUT, Arlington Tech will not be like TJ at all. It is open to anyone who wants a STEM focused high school education. So I don't think all the "smart" kids will abandon Wakefield, W-L, and Yorktown.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What nova needs is another TJ. Kind of like the Bronx Science to Stuyvesant. There are so many nerds here that it could work.


http://www.apsva.us/domain/5406

HS Info Session @ Career Center for Arlington Tech
11/16/2015 8:30 AM

2016-17 School Year

(Pending Budget Approval)

Open to all Arlington 9th grade students

40 students selected for participation



For more information contact Cassidy Nolen, Coordinator Arlington Tech
@ 703-228-5811 or cassidy.nolen@apsva.us


Arlington Tech at the Career Center provides
An all day, full-time high school program
Integrated hands-on, project based learning
Sustainable technologies and STEM focus
Challenging academic/career and technical courses
Access to a variety of dual enrollment coursework



Benefits for all students
Opportunities for industry certifications
Work based internship opportunities
Hands-on learning in high demand STEM-related careers
Earning college credits in high school through dual enrollment academic and CTE courses



2016-17 STEM/CTE Programs
Engineering
IT/Digital Media
Aviation
Auto-Tech (DE)
Auto Body
Engineering
Engineering Drawing (DE)
Architectural Drawing (DE)
Networking/Electricity
Sustainable/Renewable Technologies
Cyber Security
TV Production (DE)
Computer Graphics/Animation
Computer Programming (DE)
Advanced Topics in Information Tech (DE)


(DE) dual enrolled CTE courses
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:BUT, Arlington Tech will not be like TJ at all. It is open to anyone who wants a STEM focused high school education. So I don't think all the "smart" kids will abandon Wakefield, W-L, and Yorktown.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What nova needs is another TJ. Kind of like the Bronx Science to Stuyvesant. There are so many nerds here that it could work.


http://www.apsva.us/domain/5406

HS Info Session @ Career Center for Arlington Tech
11/16/2015 8:30 AM

2016-17 School Year

(Pending Budget Approval)

Open to all Arlington 9th grade students

40 students selected for participation



For more information contact Cassidy Nolen, Coordinator Arlington Tech
@ 703-228-5811 or cassidy.nolen@apsva.us


Arlington Tech at the Career Center provides
An all day, full-time high school program
Integrated hands-on, project based learning
Sustainable technologies and STEM focus
Challenging academic/career and technical courses
Access to a variety of dual enrollment coursework



Benefits for all students
Opportunities for industry certifications
Work based internship opportunities
Hands-on learning in high demand STEM-related careers
Earning college credits in high school through dual enrollment academic and CTE courses



2016-17 STEM/CTE Programs
Engineering
IT/Digital Media
Aviation
Auto-Tech (DE)
Auto Body
Engineering
Engineering Drawing (DE)
Architectural Drawing (DE)
Networking/Electricity
Sustainable/Renewable Technologies
Cyber Security
TV Production (DE)
Computer Graphics/Animation
Computer Programming (DE)
Advanced Topics in Information Tech (DE)


(DE) dual enrolled CTE courses


I can't get a firm read on this school. It seems somewhat vocational (auto-body, electricity?) and not STEM enough to compete with any kind of TJ curriculum (at least, not yet). I doubt many N Arlington parents would take the chance on it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:BUT, Arlington Tech will not be like TJ at all. It is open to anyone who wants a STEM focused high school education. So I don't think all the "smart" kids will abandon Wakefield, W-L, and Yorktown.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What nova needs is another TJ. Kind of like the Bronx Science to Stuyvesant. There are so many nerds here that it could work.


http://www.apsva.us/domain/5406

HS Info Session @ Career Center for Arlington Tech
11/16/2015 8:30 AM

2016-17 School Year

(Pending Budget Approval)

Open to all Arlington 9th grade students

40 students selected for participation



For more information contact Cassidy Nolen, Coordinator Arlington Tech
@ 703-228-5811 or cassidy.nolen@apsva.us


Arlington Tech at the Career Center provides
An all day, full-time high school program
Integrated hands-on, project based learning
Sustainable technologies and STEM focus
Challenging academic/career and technical courses
Access to a variety of dual enrollment coursework



Benefits for all students
Opportunities for industry certifications
Work based internship opportunities
Hands-on learning in high demand STEM-related careers
Earning college credits in high school through dual enrollment academic and CTE courses



2016-17 STEM/CTE Programs
Engineering
IT/Digital Media
Aviation
Auto-Tech (DE)
Auto Body
Engineering
Engineering Drawing (DE)
Architectural Drawing (DE)
Networking/Electricity
Sustainable/Renewable Technologies
Cyber Security
TV Production (DE)
Computer Graphics/Animation
Computer Programming (DE)
Advanced Topics in Information Tech (DE)


(DE) dual enrolled CTE courses


I can't get a firm read on this school. It seems somewhat vocational (auto-body, electricity?) and not STEM enough to compete with any kind of TJ curriculum (at least, not yet). I doubt many N Arlington parents would take the chance on it.


Seems kind of like the academies in FCPS, not TJ for sure.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
I can't get a firm read on this school. It seems somewhat vocational (auto-body, electricity?) and not STEM enough to compete with any kind of TJ curriculum (at least, not yet). I doubt many N Arlington parents would take the chance on it.


So?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What nova needs is another TJ. Kind of like the Bronx Science to Stuyvesant. There are so many nerds here that it could work.


http://www.apsva.us/domain/5406

HS Info Session @ Career Center for Arlington Tech
11/16/2015 8:30 AM

2016-17 School Year

(Pending Budget Approval)

Open to all Arlington 9th grade students

40 students selected for participation



For more information contact Cassidy Nolen, Coordinator Arlington Tech
@ 703-228-5811 or cassidy.nolen@apsva.us


Arlington Tech at the Career Center provides
An all day, full-time high school program
Integrated hands-on, project based learning
Sustainable technologies and STEM focus
Challenging academic/career and technical courses
Access to a variety of dual enrollment coursework



Benefits for all students
Opportunities for industry certifications
Work based internship opportunities
Hands-on learning in high demand STEM-related careers
Earning college credits in high school through dual enrollment academic and CTE courses



2016-17 STEM/CTE Programs
Engineering
IT/Digital Media
Aviation
Auto-Tech (DE)
Auto Body
Engineering
Engineering Drawing (DE)
Architectural Drawing (DE)
Networking/Electricity
Sustainable/Renewable Technologies
Cyber Security
TV Production (DE)
Computer Graphics/Animation
Computer Programming (DE)
Advanced Topics in Information Tech (DE)


(DE) dual enrolled CTE courses




I think a school like this sounds great, but not so much as a TJ. This sounds like a really excellent vocational school, which I had understood this school to be. This is a great opportunity for Arlington students that aren't realistically looking at college. I would think a school like this would draw heavily from south Arlington and help future overcrowding at Wakefild. Really pleased if this is the plan.
Anonymous
This will not be a vocational school. It is planned as a college prep school for students interested in aerospace, cyber security, industrial design, engineering, IT, tech jobs,...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What nova needs is another TJ. Kind of like the Bronx Science to Stuyvesant. There are so many nerds here that it could work.


http://www.apsva.us/domain/5406

HS Info Session @ Career Center for Arlington Tech
11/16/2015 8:30 AM

2016-17 School Year

(Pending Budget Approval)

Open to all Arlington 9th grade students

40 students selected for participation



For more information contact Cassidy Nolen, Coordinator Arlington Tech
@ 703-228-5811 or cassidy.nolen@apsva.us


Arlington Tech at the Career Center provides
An all day, full-time high school program
Integrated hands-on, project based learning
Sustainable technologies and STEM focus
Challenging academic/career and technical courses
Access to a variety of dual enrollment coursework



Benefits for all students
Opportunities for industry certifications
Work based internship opportunities
Hands-on learning in high demand STEM-related careers
Earning college credits in high school through dual enrollment academic and CTE courses



2016-17 STEM/CTE Programs
Engineering
IT/Digital Media
Aviation
Auto-Tech (DE)
Auto Body
Engineering
Engineering Drawing (DE)
Architectural Drawing (DE)
Networking/Electricity
Sustainable/Renewable Technologies
Cyber Security
TV Production (DE)
Computer Graphics/Animation
Computer Programming (DE)
Advanced Topics in Information Tech (DE)


(DE) dual enrolled CTE courses




I think a school like this sounds great, but not so much as a TJ. This sounds like a really excellent vocational school, which I had understood this school to be. This is a great opportunity for Arlington students that aren't realistically looking at college. I would think a school like this would draw heavily from south Arlington and help future overcrowding at Wakefild. Really pleased if this is the plan.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This will not be a vocational school. It is planned as a college prep school for students interested in aerospace, cyber security, industrial design, engineering, IT, tech jobs,...

Right, so a vocational school for the 21st century. They are partnering with NOVA. This is great for a certain segment of the population, but it's not going to be anything like TJ, in terms of who will be admitted. Anyone with a 2.0 or higher is in. This will be for kids who are not on the college track already, to get them to at least get an associate's degree after HS. PP who said this will pull heavily from Wakefield is right.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This will not be a vocational school. It is planned as a college prep school for students interested in aerospace, cyber security, industrial design, engineering, IT, tech jobs,...

Right, so a vocational school for the 21st century. They are partnering with NOVA. This is great for a certain segment of the population, but it's not going to be anything like TJ, in terms of who will be admitted. Anyone with a 2.0 or higher is in. This will be for kids who are not on the college track already, to get them to at least get an associate's degree after HS. PP who said this will pull heavily from Wakefield is right.


I heard admissions will be based on H-B's model. So students will come from all over the county and not from any particular area. APS staff has another plan though, which will give priority preference to students in the W-L HS zone to reduce crowding there. This proposal was in one of their recent powerpoint presentations.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This will not be a vocational school. It is planned as a college prep school for students interested in aerospace, cyber security, industrial design, engineering, IT, tech jobs,...

Right, so a vocational school for the 21st century. They are partnering with NOVA. This is great for a certain segment of the population, but it's not going to be anything like TJ, in terms of who will be admitted. Anyone with a 2.0 or higher is in. This will be for kids who are not on the college track already, to get them to at least get an associate's degree after HS. PP who said this will pull heavily from Wakefield is right.


I heard admissions will be based on H-B's model. So students will come from all over the county and not from any particular area. APS staff has another plan though, which will give priority preference to students in the W-L HS zone to reduce crowding there. This proposal was in one of their recent powerpoint presentations.


I heard admissions will be based on H-B's model. So students will come from all over the county and not from any particular area. APS staff has another plan though, which will give priority preference to students in the W-L HS zone to reduce crowding there. This proposal was in one of their recent powerpoint presentations.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This will not be a vocational school. It is planned as a college prep school for students interested in aerospace, cyber security, industrial design, engineering, IT, tech jobs,...

Right, so a vocational school for the 21st century. They are partnering with NOVA. This is great for a certain segment of the population, but it's not going to be anything like TJ, in terms of who will be admitted. Anyone with a 2.0 or higher is in. This will be for kids who are not on the college track already, to get them to at least get an associate's degree after HS. PP who said this will pull heavily from Wakefield is right.


I heard admissions will be based on H-B's model. So students will come from all over the county and not from any particular area. APS staff has another plan though, which will give priority preference to students in the W-L HS zone to reduce crowding there. This proposal was in one of their recent powerpoint presentations.


I heard admissions will be based on H-B's model. So students will come from all over the county and not from any particular area. APS staff has another plan though, which will give priority preference to students in the W-L HS zone to reduce crowding there. This proposal was in one of their recent powerpoint presentations.



I had heard that upthread.
I don't think the upper middle class families are going to be interested or fooled by what they will rightly perceive as a vocational school.
So- this will be school for the working class kids living in Buckingham.
Will change some demographics at W- L that's for sure...,
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