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Anonymous wrote:Reports like this make me grateful I have avoided McLean for all four of my DCs. The club seems to struggle for identity, perhaps because it is small, so it defaults to a country club environment dominated by parent capture. TM sounds like a disaster, glad they locked their team in for next year so the toxicity doesn’t metastasize to the clubs we play at.

Dont worry, she will use her daughter to draw in your kid, shall we say lady bug

Huge problems ahead for this team. The dynamic has already chased out its best player (leaving next year). When you let a parent become the queen and the coach become her vassal, you end up with something that might work for a while but it eventually collapses, especially when the queen decamps for another realm.

Can someone explain this further? It's one person, and even if that somehow results in more playing time for one player, there are 10 other players on the field next year.

Parent-controlled teams always break apart. There are countless examples including most recently, 2012 SYC.

How can one parent or even a few parents control a team? I don't understand what that means or looks like.

when a parent or parents influence roster and position choices to a point its obvious that favoritism and not the well-being of the team are the focus.

this is hard to notice when the favoritism is used with skilled players, but then the team changes and the skills and players change as well.

then you start to notice that those roster choices during tryouts and position choices are still the same but should reflect all the changes that can and do happen at young ages. the teams start losing and animosity builds….

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Anonymous wrote:some MYS offers went out based on those practice sessions. Official ID session is February 17. See: https://mcleansoccer.org/ga-idsessions/ for details

Correct. Most of the rising u13 team is locked in already. Probably only a few spots left at this point.

But not all of their best girls committed.

Ok, so your kid is the one who hasn’t yet, but most others have. Most aren’t going to FVU and most of those kids are staying together. It is a bad look to sit on the offer for several weeks, especially as all the other sessions continue to get delayed. I am sure you know this but coaches are spiteful, so just be careful.

Nice try but not my kid. A bad look is a club trying to lock kids in during the Fall season for a team that won’t play until almost a year later. They are using fomo against you and you’re trying to use that as a reason for why others should make rushed decisions without complete information.

Asking families to commit in November for the following year is a sh*tty thing to do especially for rising u13 kids. But I wouldn’t expect any less from that clown of a coach.

just curious on the hostility here since we're considering MYS as an option. An old teammates moved to the team and they seem generally happy with the situation. Why don't people like the coach? I know he moved over from VYS, but he doesn't seem as polarizing as other coaches mentioned here.

I’ve heard positive things as well. The only negative is roster size.

There is one parent who runs the team from behind the curtain. And not in a good way. And the coach prefers the girls who buy his private training services. If you’re not tithing, you’re not getting minutes.

Eww, but if so, why would everyone want to stay together with that situation?

because the team manager mom won’t let them. She loves the Art of Soccer

Or make the kids play new age year.

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Anonymous wrote:some MYS offers went out based on those practice sessions. Official ID session is February 17. See: https://mcleansoccer.org/ga-idsessions/ for details

Correct. Most of the rising u13 team is locked in already. Probably only a few spots left at this point.

But not all of their best girls committed.

Ok, so your kid is the one who hasn’t yet, but most others have. Most aren’t going to FVU and most of those kids are staying together. It is a bad look to sit on the offer for several weeks, especially as all the other sessions continue to get delayed. I am sure you know this but coaches are spiteful, so just be careful.

Nice try but not my kid. A bad look is a club trying to lock kids in during the Fall season for a team that won’t play until almost a year later. They are using fomo against you and you’re trying to use that as a reason for why others should make rushed decisions without complete information.

Asking families to commit in November for the following year is a sh*tty thing to do especially for rising u13 kids. But I wouldn’t expect any less from that clown of a coach.

just curious on the hostility here since we're considering MYS as an option. An old teammates moved to the team and they seem generally happy with the situation. Why don't people like the coach? I know he moved over from VYS, but he doesn't seem as polarizing as other coaches mentioned here.

I’ve heard positive things as well. The only negative is roster size.

There is one parent who runs the team from behind the curtain. And not in a good way. And the coach prefers the girls who buy his private training services. If you’re not tithing, you’re not getting minutes.

Eww, but if so, why would everyone want to stay together with that situation?

because the team manager mom won’t let them. She loves the Art of Soccer

She won’t let them do what?

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No one knows what this post means and the post shoood not be about how awful she is or how most of us can’t stand her and except those that play her game, but the thing people can know is about how the Club tolerates improper interference, in our case completedomination, by one mom who wheels all the power with the coach and tells him to promote the daughter though she is not a top player, the club and coach is the problem not so much the mom or the girl the are just doing what normal transparent self promoters do

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omg, isn't this the story of every team at every age group? I think I've heard this exact same story for every good team in 2014 age group (SYC, GFR, MYS, Loudoun, Arlington). One player/family leaves, complains excessively about how unfair the situation is, goes to a new perfect team where there are no problems, and the old team comes crying back asking for forgiveness. At u13, every player is replaceable, whether that's the 'best' u13 player/family or the coach's favorite. Every team will find new talent, even if parents try to tear down their old team.

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Anonymous wrote:omg, isn't this the story of every team at every age group? I think I've heard this exact same story for every good team in 2014 age group (SYC, GFR, MYS, Loudoun, Arlington). One player/family leaves, complains excessively about how unfair the situation is, goes to a new perfect team where there are no problems, and the old team comes crying back asking for forgiveness. At u13, every player is replaceable, whether that's the 'best' u13 player/family or the coach's favorite. Every team will find new talent, even if parents try to tear down their old team.

No, this combo is special. Don’t project.

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what are we doing here with a registered user name

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we are proudly saying “*”

[Anonymous]

Depressing story, we will not be trying out. Sometimes these message boards are terrible but this seems to be the consensus view of this MYS team. Too bad. Maybe in a year or two.

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Anonymous wrote:Depressing story, we will not be trying out. Sometimes these message boards are terrible but this seems to be the consensus view of this MYS team. Too bad. Maybe in a year or two.

please have the decency to move on to your new team and stop complaining about your old team. One family's unhappiness does not make a 'consensus', despite how many times you want to post & then reply to yourself. Your old/current team will be just fine

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Anonymous wrote:Reports like this make me grateful I have avoided McLean for all four of my DCs. The club seems to struggle for identity, perhaps because it is small, so it defaults to a country club environment dominated by parent capture. TM sounds like a disaster, glad they locked their team in for next year so the toxicity doesn’t metastasize to the clubs we play at.

Dont worry, she will use her daughter to draw in your kid, shall we say lady bug

Huge problems ahead for this team. The dynamic has already chased out its best player (leaving next year). When you let a parent become the queen and the coach become her vassal, you end up with something that might work for a while but it eventually collapses, especially when the queen decamps for another realm.

Can someone explain this further? It's one person, and even if that somehow results in more playing time for one player, there are 10 other players on the field next year.

Parent-controlled teams always break apart. There are countless examples including most recently, 2012 SYC.

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From an outsiders perspective it seems there's one person with multiple personalities driving this narrative. This issue or so-called issue is as old as time. Parent thinks their kid is the best player, parent thinks team will implode when player leaves, parent is hurt when it is perceived that said kid is not the 'favorite' of the coach. Nothing to see here, move on. Remember, your kid is 11/12 this doesn't matter in the grand scheme. Do everyone a favor and take your business and your drama elsewhere