How likely for save act to pass senate?

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Anonymous wrote:Women that marry get the form to change your voters registration when you have a name change and also change your ID at the same time.

You change your drivers license and passport at the same time so all of your ID's match.

That doesn’t change the name on your birth certificate. If you do not have a passport, the SAVE Act would require you to show a drivers license and a birth certificate to register to vote. If the name on the birth certificate doesn’t match the drivers license (like because you got married), it’s a problem according to the law.

Just keep your name. You can answer to whatever name you want whenever you want, but officially just keep your own name.

Ever heard of a marriage certificate?
This is not hard.

Then make men present their marriage verification if their wives changed their names so men can vote

+1. Putting in measures that disproportionately disenfranchise only women is discriminatory.

I don’t think disparate impact is sufficient, must also show discriminatory purpose/intent. Also remember that any challenged could end up st Supreme Court and, today’s win regarding tariffs excepted, they have not been very amenable to complaints of discrimination these days!

This is one of the most ridiculous claims ever on DCUM. This is NOT going to disenfranchise women. It has been debunked countless times on this thread, but it does not fit your story board.

Women are NOT that dumb--except for the ones who want to believe this is what the SAVE act does.

Please point to exactly where it was “debunked.”

1. Birth certificate
2. Marriage Certificate

Do you think women do not work or have a Social Security card? Guess what you need to change your name?
And, if you don't change your name, there is no need for the marriage certificate.

You really think women are not smart enough to present their documents?

if men don't need these things, why should women? See the problem?

If a woman chooses to change her name, then she has documentation to prove it. This is not a problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Women that marry get the form to change your voters registration when you have a name change and also change your ID at the same time.

You change your drivers license and passport at the same time so all of your ID's match.

That doesn’t change the name on your birth certificate. If you do not have a passport, the SAVE Act would require you to show a drivers license and a birth certificate to register to vote. If the name on the birth certificate doesn’t match the drivers license (like because you got married), it’s a problem according to the law.

Just keep your name. You can answer to whatever name you want whenever you want, but officially just keep your own name.

Ever heard of a marriage certificate?
This is not hard.

Then make men present their marriage verification if their wives changed their names so men can vote

+1. Putting in measures that disproportionately disenfranchise only women is discriminatory.

I don’t think disparate impact is sufficient, must also show discriminatory purpose/intent. Also remember that any challenged could end up st Supreme Court and, today’s win regarding tariffs excepted, they have not been very amenable to complaints of discrimination these days!

This is one of the most ridiculous claims ever on DCUM. This is NOT going to disenfranchise women. It has been debunked countless times on this thread, but it does not fit your story board.

Women are NOT that dumb--except for the ones who want to believe this is what the SAVE act does.

Please point to exactly where it was “debunked.”

1. Birth certificate
2. Marriage Certificate

Do you think women do not work or have a Social Security card? Guess what you need to change your name?
And, if you don't change your name, there is no need for the marriage certificate.

You really think women are not smart enough to present their documents?

if men don't need these things, why should women? See the problem?

If a woman chooses to change her name, then she has documentation to prove it. This is not a problem.

People have explained multiple times over why many women in this situation do NOT have the documentation required by the SAVE Act. Your choice to ignore that does not change the truth of the matter.

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Anonymous wrote:Women that marry get the form to change your voters registration when you have a name change and also change your ID at the same time.

You change your drivers license and passport at the same time so all of your ID's match.

That doesn’t change the name on your birth certificate. If you do not have a passport, the SAVE Act would require you to show a drivers license and a birth certificate to register to vote. If the name on the birth certificate doesn’t match the drivers license (like because you got married), it’s a problem according to the law.

Just keep your name. You can answer to whatever name you want whenever you want, but officially just keep your own name.

Ever heard of a marriage certificate?
This is not hard.

Then make men present their marriage verification if their wives changed their names so men can vote

+1. Putting in measures that disproportionately disenfranchise only women is discriminatory.

I don’t think disparate impact is sufficient, must also show discriminatory purpose/intent. Also remember that any challenged could end up st Supreme Court and, today’s win regarding tariffs excepted, they have not been very amenable to complaints of discrimination these days!

This is one of the most ridiculous claims ever on DCUM. This is NOT going to disenfranchise women. It has been debunked countless times on this thread, but it does not fit your story board.

Women are NOT that dumb--except for the ones who want to believe this is what the SAVE act does.

Please point to exactly where it was “debunked.”

1. Birth certificate
2. Marriage Certificate

Do you think women do not work or have a Social Security card? Guess what you need to change your name?
And, if you don't change your name, there is no need for the marriage certificate.

You really think women are not smart enough to present their documents?

if men don't need these things, why should women? See the problem?

If a woman chooses to change her name, then she has documentation to prove it. This is not a problem.

People have explained multiple times over why many women in this situation do NOT have the documentation required by the SAVE Act. Your choice to ignore that does not change the truth of the matter.

You have given NO valid argument.

1. To get a Social Security card you need a birth certificate.
2. If you were never issued a birth certificate (highly unlikely if you were born in the United States in the last one hundred years) there are other ways to document your birth. If not, just maybe you were not born here.
3. When children are adopted, there is legal documentation. If a child was born in another country, there are steps to take to citizenship. People who participate in foreign adoptions are aware of this.
4. When woman legally changes her name at Social Security, a marriage certificate is required.

Now, how has this been debunked?

You need ID to get Medicare, Medicaid, purchase alcohol, obtain prescription medications--and some over the counter medicatins, enter a federal building, etc.etc. etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Women that marry get the form to change your voters registration when you have a name change and also change your ID at the same time.

You change your drivers license and passport at the same time so all of your ID's match.

That doesn’t change the name on your birth certificate. If you do not have a passport, the SAVE Act would require you to show a drivers license and a birth certificate to register to vote. If the name on the birth certificate doesn’t match the drivers license (like because you got married), it’s a problem according to the law.

Just keep your name. You can answer to whatever name you want whenever you want, but officially just keep your own name.

Ever heard of a marriage certificate?
This is not hard.

Then make men present their marriage verification if their wives changed their names so men can vote

+1. Putting in measures that disproportionately disenfranchise only women is discriminatory.

I don’t think disparate impact is sufficient, must also show discriminatory purpose/intent. Also remember that any challenged could end up st Supreme Court and, today’s win regarding tariffs excepted, they have not been very amenable to complaints of discrimination these days!

This is one of the most ridiculous claims ever on DCUM. This is NOT going to disenfranchise women. It has been debunked countless times on this thread, but it does not fit your story board.

Women are NOT that dumb--except for the ones who want to believe this is what the SAVE act does.

Please point to exactly where it was “debunked.”

1. Birth certificate
2. Marriage Certificate

Do you think women do not work or have a Social Security card? Guess what you need to change your name?
And, if you don't change your name, there is no need for the marriage certificate.

You really think women are not smart enough to present their documents?

if men don't need these things, why should women? See the problem?

If they change their name, they also need documentation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Women that marry get the form to change your voters registration when you have a name change and also change your ID at the same time.

You change your drivers license and passport at the same time so all of your ID's match.

That doesn’t change the name on your birth certificate. If you do not have a passport, the SAVE Act would require you to show a drivers license and a birth certificate to register to vote. If the name on the birth certificate doesn’t match the drivers license (like because you got married), it’s a problem according to the law.

Just keep your name. You can answer to whatever name you want whenever you want, but officially just keep your own name.

Ever heard of a marriage certificate?
This is not hard.

Then make men present their marriage verification if their wives changed their names so men can vote

+1. Putting in measures that disproportionately disenfranchise only women is discriminatory.

I don’t think disparate impact is sufficient, must also show discriminatory purpose/intent. Also remember that any challenged could end up st Supreme Court and, today’s win regarding tariffs excepted, they have not been very amenable to complaints of discrimination these days!

This is one of the most ridiculous claims ever on DCUM. This is NOT going to disenfranchise women. It has been debunked countless times on this thread, but it does not fit your story board.

Women are NOT that dumb--except for the ones who want to believe this is what the SAVE act does.

Please point to exactly where it was “debunked.”

1. Birth certificate
2. Marriage Certificate

Do you think women do not work or have a Social Security card? Guess what you need to change your name?
And, if you don't change your name, there is no need for the marriage certificate.

You really think women are not smart enough to present their documents?

You are INCREDIBLY clueless.

These forms can be very hard to get, especially people born before the 60s. Originals are hand written. Names are misspelled or inconsistent. Courthouses burn down, taking all the records with them. People are born at home, and their birth records aren't official.

And that's not including adoption records, changing names during marriage, etc.

If you have your driver's license or state ID, you have been able to get by in life. But if you are robbed or your home burns or floods, your documents can be gone in a heart beat. Or if you end up in a hospital... my dad's wallet disappeared when he was admitted to a nursing home. He wasn't well enough to go to the DMV to get it replaced.

This SAVE act is designed to cause pandemonium and make it harder to vote.

You are very smug. You will have to learn the hard way... when the MAGA poll worker refuses whatever ID you bring because they think it is fake. Or if the red Secretary of State office refuses to recognize the Hawaiian birth certificate you have. Remember how Trump perpetuated that lie?

LOL! Sorry about your dad's wallet. That is always disturbing. But, there are ways to replace items. However, I would think that if he is in a nursing home, he no longer needs his driver's license. But, it is doubtful he was admitted to the nursing home without any documentation far beyond a drivers' license. And, I would imagine it is readily available. But, you know that. You just don't want a common sense bill to pass. Why?

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Anonymous wrote:Women that marry get the form to change your voters registration when you have a name change and also change your ID at the same time.

You change your drivers license and passport at the same time so all of your ID's match.

That doesn’t change the name on your birth certificate. If you do not have a passport, the SAVE Act would require you to show a drivers license and a birth certificate to register to vote. If the name on the birth certificate doesn’t match the drivers license (like because you got married), it’s a problem according to the law.

Just keep your name. You can answer to whatever name you want whenever you want, but officially just keep your own name.

Ever heard of a marriage certificate?
This is not hard.

Then make men present their marriage verification if their wives changed their names so men can vote

+1. Putting in measures that disproportionately disenfranchise only women is discriminatory.

I don’t think disparate impact is sufficient, must also show discriminatory purpose/intent. Also remember that any challenged could end up st Supreme Court and, today’s win regarding tariffs excepted, they have not been very amenable to complaints of discrimination these days!

This is one of the most ridiculous claims ever on DCUM. This is NOT going to disenfranchise women. It has been debunked countless times on this thread, but it does not fit your story board.

Women are NOT that dumb--except for the ones who want to believe this is what the SAVE act does.

Please point to exactly where it was “debunked.”

1. Birth certificate
2. Marriage Certificate

Do you think women do not work or have a Social Security card? Guess what you need to change your name?
And, if you don't change your name, there is no need for the marriage certificate.

You really think women are not smart enough to present their documents?

You are INCREDIBLY clueless.

These forms can be very hard to get, especially people born before the 60s. Originals are hand written. Names are misspelled or inconsistent. Courthouses burn down, taking all the records with them. People are born at home, and their birth records aren't official.

And that's not including adoption records, changing names during marriage, etc.

If you have your driver's license or state ID, you have been able to get by in life. But if you are robbed or your home burns or floods, your documents can be gone in a heart beat. Or if you end up in a hospital... my dad's wallet disappeared when he was admitted to a nursing home. He wasn't well enough to go to the DMV to get it replaced.

This SAVE act is designed to cause pandemonium and make it harder to vote.

You are very smug. You will have to learn the hard way... when the MAGA poll worker refuses whatever ID you bring because they think it is fake. Or if the red Secretary of State office refuses to recognize the Hawaiian birth certificate you have. Remember how Trump perpetuated that lie?

LOL! Sorry about your dad's wallet. That is always disturbing. But, there are ways to replace items. However, I would think that if he is in a nursing home, he no longer needs his driver's license. But, it is doubtful he was admitted to the nursing home without any documentation far beyond a drivers' license. And, I would imagine it is readily available. But, you know that. You just don't want a common sense bill to pass. Why?

Common sense would be having a date where this law would be effective of 5 years or more (not effective immediately( an option of a free form of ID issued by the government

Lest we unnecessarily disenfranchise ANY American

That would be true to the Constitution

But that is not your concern, why?

[Anonymous]

I grew up in a rural area 100 miles from DC and personally know several older people who were born at home and do not have birth certificates. These people’s ancestors have been in the area for centuries.

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Anonymous wrote:Women that marry get the form to change your voters registration when you have a name change and also change your ID at the same time.

You change your drivers license and passport at the same time so all of your ID's match.

That doesn’t change the name on your birth certificate. If you do not have a passport, the SAVE Act would require you to show a drivers license and a birth certificate to register to vote. If the name on the birth certificate doesn’t match the drivers license (like because you got married), it’s a problem according to the law.

Just keep your name. You can answer to whatever name you want whenever you want, but officially just keep your own name.

Ever heard of a marriage certificate?
This is not hard.

Then make men present their marriage verification if their wives changed their names so men can vote

+1. Putting in measures that disproportionately disenfranchise only women is discriminatory.

I don’t think disparate impact is sufficient, must also show discriminatory purpose/intent. Also remember that any challenged could end up st Supreme Court and, today’s win regarding tariffs excepted, they have not been very amenable to complaints of discrimination these days!

This is one of the most ridiculous claims ever on DCUM. This is NOT going to disenfranchise women. It has been debunked countless times on this thread, but it does not fit your story board.

Women are NOT that dumb--except for the ones who want to believe this is what the SAVE act does.

Please point to exactly where it was “debunked.”

1. Birth certificate
2. Marriage Certificate

Do you think women do not work or have a Social Security card? Guess what you need to change your name?
And, if you don't change your name, there is no need for the marriage certificate.

You really think women are not smart enough to present their documents?

You are INCREDIBLY clueless.

These forms can be very hard to get, especially people born before the 60s. Originals are hand written. Names are misspelled or inconsistent. Courthouses burn down, taking all the records with them. People are born at home, and their birth records aren't official.

And that's not including adoption records, changing names during marriage, etc.

If you have your driver's license or state ID, you have been able to get by in life. But if you are robbed or your home burns or floods, your documents can be gone in a heart beat. Or if you end up in a hospital... my dad's wallet disappeared when he was admitted to a nursing home. He wasn't well enough to go to the DMV to get it replaced.

This SAVE act is designed to cause pandemonium and make it harder to vote.

You are very smug. You will have to learn the hard way... when the MAGA poll worker refuses whatever ID you bring because they think it is fake. Or if the red Secretary of State office refuses to recognize the Hawaiian birth certificate you have. Remember how Trump perpetuated that lie?

LOL! Sorry about your dad's wallet. That is always disturbing. But, there are ways to replace items. However, I would think that if he is in a nursing home, he no longer needs his driver's license. But, it is doubtful he was admitted to the nursing home without any documentation far beyond a drivers' license. And, I would imagine it is readily available. But, you know that. You just don't want a common sense bill to pass. Why?

“Common sense”

Well, I see where you’ve gone wrong.

[Anonymous]

I can’t believe the number of folks I know who still don’t have a Real ID, so I’m going to guess two things will happen if it passes: a lot of men and women won’t vote, and in many red counties people will have to jump through unnecessary hoops and paperwork will get lost or backlogged or ate by a dog who someone brought to work.

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Anonymous wrote:Women that marry get the form to change your voters registration when you have a name change and also change your ID at the same time.

You change your drivers license and passport at the same time so all of your ID's match.

That doesn’t change the name on your birth certificate. If you do not have a passport, the SAVE Act would require you to show a drivers license and a birth certificate to register to vote. If the name on the birth certificate doesn’t match the drivers license (like because you got married), it’s a problem according to the law.

Just keep your name. You can answer to whatever name you want whenever you want, but officially just keep your own name.

Ever heard of a marriage certificate?
This is not hard.

Then make men present their marriage verification if their wives changed their names so men can vote

+1. Putting in measures that disproportionately disenfranchise only women is discriminatory.

I don’t think disparate impact is sufficient, must also show discriminatory purpose/intent. Also remember that any challenged could end up st Supreme Court and, today’s win regarding tariffs excepted, they have not been very amenable to complaints of discrimination these days!

This is one of the most ridiculous claims ever on DCUM. This is NOT going to disenfranchise women. It has been debunked countless times on this thread, but it does not fit your story board.

Women are NOT that dumb--except for the ones who want to believe this is what the SAVE act does.

Please point to exactly where it was “debunked.”

1. Birth certificate
2. Marriage Certificate

Do you think women do not work or have a Social Security card? Guess what you need to change your name?
And, if you don't change your name, there is no need for the marriage certificate.

You really think women are not smart enough to present their documents?

if men don't need these things, why should women? See the problem?

If a woman chooses to change her name, then she has documentation to prove it. This is not a problem.

People have explained multiple times over why many women in this situation do NOT have the documentation required by the SAVE Act. Your choice to ignore that does not change the truth of the matter.

You have given NO valid argument.

1. To get a Social Security card you need a birth certificate.
2. If you were never issued a birth certificate (highly unlikely if you were born in the United States in the last one hundred years) there are other ways to document your birth. If not, just maybe you were not born here.
3. When children are adopted, there is legal documentation. If a child was born in another country, there are steps to take to citizenship. People who participate in foreign adoptions are aware of this.
4. When woman legally changes her name at Social Security, a marriage certificate is required.

Now, how has this been debunked?

You need ID to get Medicare, Medicaid, purchase alcohol, obtain prescription medications--and some over the counter medicatins, enter a federal building, etc.etc. etc.

What’s actually been debunked time and time again is the need for burdensome poll taxes because this voting fraud doesn’t really exist, and whenever we do seem to find it, it has to do with republicans cheating.

[Anonymous]

Also, women will find a way around the patriarchy >> they won’t change names or they won’t marry. Men are dumb.

[Anonymous]

It is your RIGHT to vote. Buying beer, driving a car, etc. is not.

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Anonymous wrote:Women that marry get the form to change your voters registration when you have a name change and also change your ID at the same time.

You change your drivers license and passport at the same time so all of your ID's match.

That doesn’t change the name on your birth certificate. If you do not have a passport, the SAVE Act would require you to show a drivers license and a birth certificate to register to vote. If the name on the birth certificate doesn’t match the drivers license (like because you got married), it’s a problem according to the law.

Just keep your name. You can answer to whatever name you want whenever you want, but officially just keep your own name.

Ever heard of a marriage certificate?
This is not hard.

Then make men present their marriage verification if their wives changed their names so men can vote

+1. Putting in measures that disproportionately disenfranchise only women is discriminatory.

I don’t think disparate impact is sufficient, must also show discriminatory purpose/intent. Also remember that any challenged could end up st Supreme Court and, today’s win regarding tariffs excepted, they have not been very amenable to complaints of discrimination these days!

This is one of the most ridiculous claims ever on DCUM. This is NOT going to disenfranchise women. It has been debunked countless times on this thread, but it does not fit your story board.

Women are NOT that dumb--except for the ones who want to believe this is what the SAVE act does.

Please point to exactly where it was “debunked.”

1. Birth certificate
2. Marriage Certificate

Do you think women do not work or have a Social Security card? Guess what you need to change your name?
And, if you don't change your name, there is no need for the marriage certificate.

You really think women are not smart enough to present their documents?

if men don't need these things, why should women? See the problem?

If a woman chooses to change her name, then she has documentation to prove it. This is not a problem.

People have explained multiple times over why many women in this situation do NOT have the documentation required by the SAVE Act. Your choice to ignore that does not change the truth of the matter.

You have given NO valid argument.

1. To get a Social Security card you need a birth certificate.
2. If you were never issued a birth certificate (highly unlikely if you were born in the United States in the last one hundred years) there are other ways to document your birth. If not, just maybe you were not born here.
3. When children are adopted, there is legal documentation. If a child was born in another country, there are steps to take to citizenship. People who participate in foreign adoptions are aware of this.
4. When woman legally changes her name at Social Security, a marriage certificate is required.

Now, how has this been debunked?

You need ID to get Medicare, Medicaid, purchase alcohol, obtain prescription medications--and some over the counter medicatins, enter a federal building, etc.etc. etc.

Documents get burned, stolen, lost and whatnot. Making people and particularly women, run through additional hoops in order to vote, even if they have a REAL ID, is ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:Women that marry get the form to change your voters registration when you have a name change and also change your ID at the same time.

You change your drivers license and passport at the same time so all of your ID's match.

That doesn’t change the name on your birth certificate. If you do not have a passport, the SAVE Act would require you to show a drivers license and a birth certificate to register to vote. If the name on the birth certificate doesn’t match the drivers license (like because you got married), it’s a problem according to the law.

Just keep your name. You can answer to whatever name you want whenever you want, but officially just keep your own name.

Ever heard of a marriage certificate?
This is not hard.

Then make men present their marriage verification if their wives changed their names so men can vote

+1. Putting in measures that disproportionately disenfranchise only women is discriminatory.

I don’t think disparate impact is sufficient, must also show discriminatory purpose/intent. Also remember that any challenged could end up st Supreme Court and, today’s win regarding tariffs excepted, they have not been very amenable to complaints of discrimination these days!

This is one of the most ridiculous claims ever on DCUM. This is NOT going to disenfranchise women. It has been debunked countless times on this thread, but it does not fit your story board.

Women are NOT that dumb--except for the ones who want to believe this is what the SAVE act does.

Please point to exactly where it was “debunked.”

1. Birth certificate
2. Marriage Certificate

Do you think women do not work or have a Social Security card? Guess what you need to change your name?
And, if you don't change your name, there is no need for the marriage certificate.

You really think women are not smart enough to present their documents?

if men don't need these things, why should women? See the problem?

If a woman chooses to change her name, then she has documentation to prove it. This is not a problem.

People have explained multiple times over why many women in this situation do NOT have the documentation required by the SAVE Act. Your choice to ignore that does not change the truth of the matter.

You have given NO valid argument.

1. To get a Social Security card you need a birth certificate.
2. If you were never issued a birth certificate (highly unlikely if you were born in the United States in the last one hundred years) there are other ways to document your birth. If not, just maybe you were not born here.
3. When children are adopted, there is legal documentation. If a child was born in another country, there are steps to take to citizenship. People who participate in foreign adoptions are aware of this.
4. When woman legally changes her name at Social Security, a marriage certificate is required.

Now, how has this been debunked?

You need ID to get Medicare, Medicaid, purchase alcohol, obtain prescription medications--and some over the counter medicatins, enter a federal building, etc.etc. etc.

Documents get burned, stolen, lost and whatnot. Making people and particularly women, run through additional hoops in order to vote, even if they have a REAL ID, is ridiculous.

And, official documents can be replaced. Voting is a right--but if you do not care enough to prove your identity, that is a different problem.

I suspect you have your documents. Why do you think others do not?

And, how many women do not have ID? How many women do not have a drivers' license, a Social Security card, an insurance or Medicaid card?

Quit assuming that women are careless and dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:Women that marry get the form to change your voters registration when you have a name change and also change your ID at the same time.

You change your drivers license and passport at the same time so all of your ID's match.

That doesn’t change the name on your birth certificate. If you do not have a passport, the SAVE Act would require you to show a drivers license and a birth certificate to register to vote. If the name on the birth certificate doesn’t match the drivers license (like because you got married), it’s a problem according to the law.

Just keep your name. You can answer to whatever name you want whenever you want, but officially just keep your own name.

Ever heard of a marriage certificate?
This is not hard.

Then make men present their marriage verification if their wives changed their names so men can vote

+1. Putting in measures that disproportionately disenfranchise only women is discriminatory.

I don’t think disparate impact is sufficient, must also show discriminatory purpose/intent. Also remember that any challenged could end up st Supreme Court and, today’s win regarding tariffs excepted, they have not been very amenable to complaints of discrimination these days!

This is one of the most ridiculous claims ever on DCUM. This is NOT going to disenfranchise women. It has been debunked countless times on this thread, but it does not fit your story board.

Women are NOT that dumb--except for the ones who want to believe this is what the SAVE act does.

Please point to exactly where it was “debunked.”

1. Birth certificate
2. Marriage Certificate

Do you think women do not work or have a Social Security card? Guess what you need to change your name?
And, if you don't change your name, there is no need for the marriage certificate.

You really think women are not smart enough to present their documents?

You are INCREDIBLY clueless.

These forms can be very hard to get, especially people born before the 60s. Originals are hand written. Names are misspelled or inconsistent. Courthouses burn down, taking all the records with them. People are born at home, and their birth records aren't official.

And that's not including adoption records, changing names during marriage, etc.

If you have your driver's license or state ID, you have been able to get by in life. But if you are robbed or your home burns or floods, your documents can be gone in a heart beat. Or if you end up in a hospital... my dad's wallet disappeared when he was admitted to a nursing home. He wasn't well enough to go to the DMV to get it replaced.

This SAVE act is designed to cause pandemonium and make it harder to vote.

You are very smug. You will have to learn the hard way... when the MAGA poll worker refuses whatever ID you bring because they think it is fake. Or if the red Secretary of State office refuses to recognize the Hawaiian birth certificate you have. Remember how Trump perpetuated that lie?

LOL! Sorry about your dad's wallet. That is always disturbing. But, there are ways to replace items. However, I would think that if he is in a nursing home, he no longer needs his driver's license. But, it is doubtful he was admitted to the nursing home without any documentation far beyond a drivers' license. And, I would imagine it is readily available. But, you know that. You just don't want a common sense bill to pass. Why?

You’re the one insisting that people need a valid unexpired drivers license in order to vote, and you also think once this man is is a nursing home he doesn’t need a drivers license anymore? Which is it?