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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Women that marry get the form to change your voters registration when you have a name change and also change your ID at the same time. You change your drivers license and passport at the same time so all of your ID's match. [/quote] That doesn’t change the name on your birth certificate. If you do not have a passport, the SAVE Act would require you to show a drivers license and a birth certificate to register to vote. If the name on the birth certificate doesn’t match the drivers license (like because you got married), it’s a problem according to the law.[/quote] Just keep your name. You can answer to whatever name you want whenever you want, but officially just keep your own name.[/quote] Ever heard of a marriage certificate? This is not hard.[/quote] Then make men present their marriage verification if their wives changed their names so men can vote[/quote] +1. Putting in measures that disproportionately disenfranchise only women is discriminatory. [/quote] I don’t think disparate impact is sufficient, must also show discriminatory purpose/intent. Also remember that any challenged could end up st Supreme Court and, today’s win regarding tariffs excepted, they have not been very amenable to complaints of discrimination these days![/quote] This is one of the most ridiculous claims ever on DCUM. This is NOT going to disenfranchise women. It has been debunked countless times on this thread, but it does not fit your story board. Women are NOT that dumb--except for the ones who want to believe this is what the SAVE act does.[/quote] Please point to exactly where it was “debunked.”[/quote] 1. Birth certificate 2. Marriage Certificate Do you think women do not work or have a Social Security card? Guess what you need to change your name? And, if you don't change your name, there is no need for the marriage certificate. You really think women are not smart enough to present their documents? [/quote] if men don't need these things, why should women? See the problem?[/quote] If a woman chooses to change her name, then she has documentation to prove it. This is not a problem. [/quote] People have explained multiple times over why many women in this situation do NOT have the documentation required by the SAVE Act. Your choice to ignore that does not change the truth of the matter.[/quote] You have given NO valid argument. 1. To get a Social Security card you need a birth certificate. 2. If you were never issued a birth certificate (highly unlikely if you were born in the United States in the last one hundred years) there are other ways to document your birth. If not, just maybe you were not born here. 3. When children are adopted, there is legal documentation. If a child was born in another country, there are steps to take to citizenship. People who participate in foreign adoptions are aware of this. 4. When woman legally changes her name at Social Security, a marriage certificate is required. Now, how has this been debunked? You need ID to get Medicare, Medicaid, purchase alcohol, obtain prescription medications--and some over the counter medicatins, enter a federal building, etc.etc. etc.[/quote] Documents get burned, stolen, lost and whatnot. Making people and particularly women, run through additional hoops in order to vote, even if they have a REAL ID, is ridiculous.[/quote] And, official documents can be replaced. Voting is a right--but if you do not care enough to prove your identity, that is a different problem. I suspect you have your documents. Why do you think others do not? And, how many women do not have ID? How many women do not have a drivers' license, a Social Security card, an insurance or Medicaid card? Quit assuming that women are careless and dumb.[/quote]
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